Comments on: Measuring the “Faisal Gill Effect”

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:27:00 +0000

An incumbent state senator should never lose reelection.

He has all the powers of incumbency. You really have to blame the candidate and his political consultants for the defeat.

They knew Faisal was on the ballot and they didn’t really shore up their base in Prince William.

Who knows what they were thinking.

By: freedom

freedom — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:08:58 +0000

…only problem is, jimmy, no one really KNOWS what Faisal Gill’s beliefs are, only what he SAYS his beliefs are….although I certainly don’t know the AMC’s founder, Alamoudi, I can only imagine that HE kept a fairly “vanilla” outer shell for a good while too, huh?? Not only him, kinda makes ya think of the Governor’s appointee, — a loyal American citizen, except for those times when he’s a Jihadist. Oh, but after he was revealed, he even had a different definition of “Jihad,” remember? Wonder how many people bought THAT one…sigh!!

Won’t you EVER get it, jimmy?? Because of his past and continuing associations, we clearly have “doubt” about Faisal Gill, doubt about him that is well beyond “reasonable.” Thus, we’re just not willing to take a chance on this guy in our government!!! You shouldn’t either.

By: Jonathan Mark

Jonathan Mark — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:03:04 +0000

Jim Young is definitely a “follower” of Faisal. Jim even posted this weekend the bizarre claim that the terrorist Abdurahman had “infiltrated” the American Muslim Council, where Faisal worked as chief lobbyist.

No, Abdurahman Alamoudi FOUNDED the American Muslim Council. He cannot infiltrate an organization which he founded.

Jim Young is presumably a functioning adult. The type of false statements that Young makes are not due to stupidity. They are due to being a “follower,” a blind adherent.

By: James Young

James Young — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 04:35:26 +0000

Clearly, “Not JY,” you’re confusing me with the Potomac News, which is, as usual, utterly oblivious to the machinations of the type of Republicans that are frequently to their liking.

http://www.potomacnews.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WPN/MGArticle/WPN_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173353438175

By: James Young

James Young — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 04:29:40 +0000

Well, “Not JY,” since I’ve never said any such thing, you once again demonstrate that you don’t know what you’re talking about. And, of course, the only thing “dishonest” about the Convention are the largely anonymous aspersions cast here and elsewhere about its conduct.

And “CONVA,” Faisal doesn’t have “followers.” He has “supporters.” It is a measure of the merits of your comment that you have to belittle them by dismissing them as “followers.”

By: CONVA

CONVA — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:14:31 +0000

Hopefully we won’t hear anything more from FAISAL and his follower/apologists.

By: Not JY

Not JY — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:28:42 +0000

Jim Young wrote, “Barker should also get credit for an effective — albeit dishonest and one-note — advertising campaign.”

And I bet you typed that with a straight face, too! Would that be anything like running a dishonest convention and one-note (a vote against Faisal PROVES you are a racist) campaign?

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:03:12 +0000

Sometimes the political consultants play a major role in who wins the elections. They decide who to target and when. They choose the issues which to persuade the voters to either continue voting for the incumbent or the issues to persuade the independent and democrat voters.

By: freedom

freedom — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:34:15 +0000

Excellent analysis, Greg. However, there were many Republicans who simply could not vote Gill; could not vote for those who supported Gill, e.g., Corey Stewart; and at the same time, could not bring themselves to vote for a Democrat. Thus, those people simply “sat this one out” and didn’t vote at all.

How many of those there were, I have no idea. However, they were there and their voting abstinence hurt all Republican candidates, including Jay O’brien’s majority in PWC.

By: Scott A. Surovell

Scott A. Surovell — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:12:50 +0000

I think there were also about 3,000 more RV in O’Brien’s Prince William precincts than there were in 2003. I suspect that they are probably more likely D than R which would reduce O’Brien’s margins farther.

By: Loudoun Insider

Loudoun Insider — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:29:28 +0000

If only Royse had hired Kopko as a consultant, maybe he would have received more party help!

By: Brighter Future

Brighter Future — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 02:15:49 +0000

Fairfax let OBrien down. Could be his stance on illegals. Fairfax seems to like
illegals.

Wonder how much effort was given to him by Corey? Did he pass out his literature in the neighborhoods?

If Fairfax GOP is anything like PW. then the candidates are in trouble. They are on their own and the sooner they understand this the better off they will be.

Some of us do not feel Royse was given assistance from those who have run before and vert little from the GOP.

By: James Young

James Young — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:41:34 +0000

A refreshingly honest analysis. I agree. if one wants to point fingers, they should be at the abysmal performance of the Fairfax County GOP. Jay deserved better from that organization, and didn’t get it.

Barker should also get credit for an effective — albeit dishonest and one-note — advertising campaign. The GOP never effectively answered the Democrat’s campaign against abusive driver fees, even though the fact that they were directed solely at Virginians — the most blatantly offensive and unconstitutional element of the law — was a little amendment that was Governor Timmy’s!.

Once again, had Republicans stood on principle, i.e., attacking the blatant equal protection deficiencies in the amended “compromise,” Barker wouldn’t have had an issue.

Of course, the nice thing about being a nihilistic Democrat is that they then would have attacked the GOP for refusing to “compromise” in imposing an unconstitutional law.

By: Advocator

Advocator — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 20:40:51 +0000

Greg: It appears that somewhere around 59k people voted in PWC. Any idea what the total campaign expeditures were for all candidates combined in the County? I’d like to see a $/voter figure.

By: charm

charm — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 20:26:20 +0000

Jay O’Brien lost two precincts in PWC because he had a stronger opponent. George Barker spent weeks canvassing in those 9 PWC precincts. He lost one precinct by less than 50 votes, others by less than 100. He also had strong support by the Democratic Party in the Woodbridge area.

That said, O’Brien won three precincts that Nichols won — McCoart, Westridge, and Rockledge.