Comments on: Kaine: Deporting 8% of Illegal Aliens Is Good Enough http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/ Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics. Wed, 23 May 2012 10:15:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: Tom Day http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-40915 Tom Day Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:53:25 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-40915 Why should we care if an illegal alien is offended by the word alien, thats what they are, alien to American society and illegally here. F & B, you always chastise people to don't be racist, well, any one individual has the right to dislike another or group, its the American institutions that are banned from having racist or discriminating policies. Why should we care if an illegal alien is offended by the word alien, thats what they are, alien to American society and illegally here. F & B, you always chastise people to don’t be racist, well, any one individual has the right to dislike another or group, its the American institutions that are banned from having racist or discriminating policies.

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]]> By: Dolph http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39591 Dolph Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:02:38 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39591 I will continue to say illegal immigrant. Many people are offended by the term 'alien,' rightly or wrongly. They associate it with outer space beings. If you deal or have dealt with a large immigrant population, it just makes things easier if you don't deliberately offend them, even if their reasoning is way off base. So for me, it is a choice. I will continue to say illegal immigrant. Many people are offended by the term ‘alien,’ rightly or wrongly. They associate it with outer space beings. If you deal or have dealt with a large immigrant population, it just makes things easier if you don’t deliberately offend them, even if their reasoning is way off base. So for me, it is a choice.

]]> By: /\/\3|)ic 64 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39419 /\/\3|)ic 64 Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:43:40 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39419 I shall change my terminology to Illegal Alien as I too remember this after RS placed in front of me. I am not the all knowing RS, just trying to be smart about how I address things. I do not want to give them any more fuel for their fire as it is. It isn't about Hispanics, it is about Illegal Aliens of ALL types. BTW RS, I was a HM in the Navy and a Paramedic / Firefighter after I got out. Big Dog, I didn't see a response to my post about a group of Americans, I suppose it was OK and you agree with it. I shall change my terminology to Illegal Alien as I too remember this after RS placed in front of me.

I am not the all knowing RS, just trying to be smart about how I address things. I do not want to give them any more fuel for their fire as it is. It isn’t about Hispanics, it is about Illegal Aliens of ALL types.

BTW RS, I was a HM in the Navy and a Paramedic / Firefighter after I got out.

Big Dog,

I didn’t see a response to my post about a group of Americans, I suppose it was OK and you agree with it.

]]> By: Angry Blackman! http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39418 Angry Blackman! Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:38:46 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39418 Govenor Kaine better act or he'll pay. This is why now I'm an "Lou Dobbs Independent"! 8% is not enough. Only 100% is sufficient which would include the kids of illegals too! Govenor Kaine better act or he’ll pay. This is why now I’m an “Lou Dobbs Independent”!

8% is not enough. Only 100% is sufficient which would include the kids of illegals too!

]]> By: Rob Smalls http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39408 Rob Smalls Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:01:22 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39408 Heed the Medic's advice, for his is the sage wisdom of the sailor. Heed the Medic’s advice, for his is the sage wisdom of the sailor.

]]> By: Rob Smalls http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39407 Rob Smalls Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:59:34 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39407 The legal term is "Illegal Alien", per the lawbooks. Not illegal immigrant, as immigration is a defined legal process an illegal alien eschews to take up residence in this country unlawfully. There's no need to give them any other name than that. The legal term is “Illegal Alien”, per the lawbooks. Not illegal immigrant, as immigration is a defined legal process an illegal alien eschews to take up residence in this country unlawfully. There’s no need to give them any other name than that.

]]> By: Krusty http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39405 Krusty Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:56:17 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39405 There are some in every lot, right? I don't see how not washing would make it impossible for you to get security clearance at a later date. But then, what do I know? There are some in every lot, right? I don’t see how not washing would make it impossible for you to get security clearance at a later date. But then, what do I know?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39397 Anonymous Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:30:59 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39397 Krusty said on 13 Nov 2007 at 8:39 am: Peace Corps experience, IMO, is an asset to anyone. That is a matter of opinion. I have spent time in a number of countries where there was a presence of "Peace Creeps" dating back to 1962. While some were dedicated individuals, there were many who caused problems in country. Especially gauling was the fact that most of them never used soap and water (and it was not due to it not being available.) They used to come into the Embassy lunch room during their time off and you couldn't stand to sit near them. For a lot of them, it was a paid vacation. Shorts and sandels was the uniform of the day. Krusty said on 13 Nov 2007 at 8:39 am:

Peace Corps experience, IMO, is an asset to anyone.

That is a matter of opinion. I have spent time in a number of countries where there was a presence of “Peace Creeps” dating back to 1962. While some were dedicated individuals, there were many who caused problems in country. Especially gauling was the fact that most of them never used soap and water (and it was not due to it not being available.) They used to come into the Embassy lunch room during their time off and you couldn’t stand to sit near them. For a lot of them, it was a paid vacation. Shorts and sandels was the uniform of the day.

]]> By: Fair and Balanced http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39309 Fair and Balanced Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:27:58 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39309 Advocator, please. Anyone with half a brain knows what you are trying to say and yes, it is racist. You are going for the lowest common denominator in order to make your point. Advocator, please. Anyone with half a brain knows what you are trying to say and yes, it is racist.

You are going for the lowest common denominator in order to make your point.

]]> By: /\/\3|)ic 64 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39278 /\/\3|)ic 64 Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:14:28 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39278 Advocator, I understand your point and it is well taken. I am just trying to ensure that our words are not misunderstood. Please remember that most illegals do not have a strong grasp of the English language that you and I do. This is why I am careful to post words to make sure they can be interpreted the way I want them to be. I am not any better at being a words mith than anyone else. I just try to make sure the words I use don't come back to get me later. American Heritage Dictionary im·mi·grant (ĭm'ĭ-grənt) n. 1. A person who leaves one country to settle permanently in another. 2. A plant or animal that establishes itself in an area where it previously did not exist. American Heritage Dictionary in·vade (ĭn-vād') v. in·vad·ed, in·vad·ing, in·vades v. tr. 1. To enter by force in order to conquer or pillage. 2. To encroach or intrude on; violate: "The principal of the trusts could not be invaded without trustee approval" (Barbara Goldsmith). 3. To overrun as if by invading; infest: "About 1917 the shipworm invaded the harbor of San Francisco" (Rachel Carson). 4. To enter and permeate, especially harmfully. I am on your side when it comes to the illegal people entering the country. I too want to take back our country!!! I am just trying to be careful not to add the racists fuel they seek here. Again, I am not holier than thou (c: Advocator,

I understand your point and it is well taken. I am just trying to ensure that our words are not misunderstood. Please remember that most illegals do not have a strong grasp of the English language that you and I do. This is why I am careful to post words to make sure they can be interpreted the way I want them to be. I am not any better at being a words mith than anyone else. I just try to make sure the words I use don’t come back to get me later.

American Heritage Dictionary
im·mi·grant (ĭm’ĭ-grənt)
n.

1. A person who leaves one country to settle permanently in another.
2. A plant or animal that establishes itself in an area where it previously did not exist.

American Heritage Dictionary
in·vade (ĭn-vād’)
v. in·vad·ed, in·vad·ing, in·vades

v. tr.

1. To enter by force in order to conquer or pillage.
2. To encroach or intrude on; violate: “The principal of the trusts could not be invaded without trustee approval” (Barbara Goldsmith).
3. To overrun as if by invading; infest: “About 1917 the shipworm invaded the harbor of San Francisco” (Rachel Carson).
4. To enter and permeate, especially harmfully.

I am on your side when it comes to the illegal people entering the country. I too want to take back our country!!!

I am just trying to be careful not to add the racists fuel they seek here. Again, I am not holier than thou (c:

]]> By: Advocator http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39276 Advocator Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:00:19 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39276 /\/\3|)ic 64 said on 13 Nov 2007 at 3:55 pm: Call them Illegal Invaders then! Calling them "immigrants" is offensive to me. /\/\3|)ic 64 said on 13 Nov 2007 at 3:55 pm:

Call them Illegal Invaders then! Calling them “immigrants” is offensive to me.

]]> By: /\/\3|)ic 64 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39275 /\/\3|)ic 64 Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:55:00 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39275 Advocator, American Heritage Dictionary wet·back (wět'bāk') n. Offensive Slang Used as a disparaging term for a Mexican, especially a laborer who crosses the U.S. border illegally. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wetback As I said, no need to get into name calling. Advocator,

American Heritage Dictionary

wet·back (wět’bāk’)

n. Offensive Slang
Used as a disparaging term for a Mexican, especially a laborer who crosses the U.S. border illegally.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wetback

As I said, no need to get into name calling.

]]> By: Krusty http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39272 Krusty Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:43:45 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39272 whoa's "drooling idiot" should be censored. Unfitting for civilized debate IMO. Just shows your lack of vocabulary. It diminishes you tremendously. whoa’s “drooling idiot” should be censored. Unfitting for civilized debate IMO. Just shows your lack of vocabulary. It diminishes you tremendously.

]]> By: Advocator http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39268 Advocator Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:34:43 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39268 Whoa, et al: The terms I used are racially neutral. Anyone who wades across a river, climbs a fence, or stows away in a method of transportation in order to illegally cross our borders deserves to be called by a name indicating his/her method of invading our sovereignty, regardless of their country of origin. Calling these people "immigrants" denigrates my heritage. Whoa, et al: The terms I used are racially neutral. Anyone who wades across a river, climbs a fence, or stows away in a method of transportation in order to illegally cross our borders deserves to be called by a name indicating his/her method of invading our sovereignty, regardless of their country of origin. Calling these people “immigrants” denigrates my heritage.

]]> By: /\/\3|)ic 64 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39263 /\/\3|)ic 64 Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:25:28 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39263 whoa, were you calling me a drooling idiot or anon? Honestly, if you have to refer to name calling it shows a lack of self control and maturity on your part. whoa, were you calling me a drooling idiot or anon? Honestly, if you have to refer to name calling it shows a lack of self control and maturity on your part.

]]> By: whoa http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39257 whoa Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:57:27 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39257 "Advocator, I would urge using the term illegal immigrant because the terms you used are racial slurs for a particular group of people. We need to make sure that this is not about race, but about legal status. " Well, clearly the guy is a racist and you are only giving him lessons on how to cover it up. Just like advocator learned over time to say black instead of n-word...but he still means n-word. "Anon, I do not see America welcoming illegal immigrants with open arms. I see a group of people that have found a way to beat a system that needs reinforcing." Excuse me!!! You must be a drooling idiot. We could easily shut down the border but the AMERICAN govt doesn't want to. They want these people to be here...and yes they want them here illegally so they can be taken advantage of by businesses. “Advocator, I would urge using the term illegal immigrant because the terms you used are racial slurs for a particular group of people. We need to make sure that this is not about race, but about legal status. ”

Well, clearly the guy is a racist and you are only giving him lessons on how to cover it up. Just like advocator learned over time to say black instead of n-word…but he still means n-word.

“Anon,
I do not see America welcoming illegal immigrants with open arms. I see a group of people that have found a way to beat a system that needs reinforcing.”

Excuse me!!! You must be a drooling idiot. We could easily shut down the border but the AMERICAN govt doesn’t want to. They want these people to be here…and yes they want them here illegally so they can be taken advantage of by businesses.

]]> By: k. o'toole http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39246 k. o'toole Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:12:10 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39246 Things do get lost in translation - another problem communicating - http://www.glennbeck.com/home/index.shtml scroll down to the picture of the week, the cake. Things do get lost in translation - another problem communicating - http://www.glennbeck.com/home/index.shtml
scroll down to the picture of the week, the cake.

]]> By: dolph http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39231 dolph Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:24:41 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39231 Krusty, Thanks for the reminder of John F. Kennedy's quote. Sometimes the best quotes are the shortest. Legal2, If memory serves me correctly, Tim Kaine volunteered with Catholic Missionaries. I don't ever recall hearing anything about the Peace Corp. Krusty,

Thanks for the reminder of John F. Kennedy’s quote. Sometimes the best quotes are the shortest.

Legal2,

If memory serves me correctly, Tim Kaine volunteered with Catholic Missionaries. I don’t ever recall hearing anything about the Peace Corp.

]]> By: /\/\3|)ic 64 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39229 /\/\3|)ic 64 Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:20:35 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/12/kaine-deporting-8-of-illegal-aliens-is-good-enough/#comment-39229 Advocator, I would urge using the term illegal immigrant because the terms you used are racial slurs for a particular group of people. We need to make sure that this is not about race, but about legal status. BTW, the Latinos do not have a corner market on the illegal status. Anon, I do not see America welcoming illegal immigrants with open arms. I see a group of people that have found a way to beat a system that needs reinforcing. Just because you can cross the border or over stay your visa does NOT mean you are welcome. America welcomes those who enter LEGALLY with open arms, but not those who do not!!! Advocator,

I would urge using the term illegal immigrant because the terms you used are racial slurs for a particular group of people. We need to make sure that this is not about race, but about legal status.

BTW, the Latinos do not have a corner market on the illegal status.

Anon,
I do not see America welcoming illegal immigrants with open arms. I see a group of people that have found a way to beat a system that needs reinforcing. Just because you can cross the border or over stay your visa does NOT mean you are welcome. America welcomes those who enter LEGALLY with open arms, but not those who do not!!!

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