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The MJM Escorts Readers Into The Swamp
By Greg L | 13 November 2007 | Prince William County | 73 Comments
The Manassas Urinal-Massager has it’s knickers in a knot about unsubstantiated allegations of wrongful behavior at Stonewall precinct last Tuesday, and rather than wait and find out what actually happened here, decided it’s time to weigh in with their version of the facts and construct their own false, yet convenient reality. I wonder if they’ll be as equally willing to admit they were wrong about this once the investigation into these allegations determines that these claims are entirely without merit. Probably not, but it’ll be another good basis on which to continue whipping them for being such a lousy source of news and information.
But practically speaking, a group of people yelling that Hispanics will be deported if they are illegal is capable of striking fear in the hearts of even natural born Hispanic citizens. Intimidation is a powerful tool.
And there was no reason for the group to be there. It wasn’t necessary to have “citizens” standing vigilant at the polls. If you are not a legal citizen of the United States and a registered voter of Prince William County, then you cannot vote in the elections. It’s as simple as that.
The crowd of people at Stonewall Middle School were there for no greater purpose than to scare Hispanics away from voting.
I was there, and the only “crowd” I saw was a contingent from the illegal alien lobby and Jeanette Rishell campaign that alternatively wanted to get into people’s faces, and a befuddled Fox 5 television crew wondering what all the hubbub was that they had been called out to cover. The story here involves the questionable behavior of “translators” who “assisted” some non-English speakers in casting votes that the “translators” wanted them to make. There’s also a story here, which the MJM hasn’t bothered to cover of course, about a Spanish-language “sample ballot” that violated Virginia elections laws. Since there’s evidence regarding those stories, I guess they’re not worthy of coverage.
The MJM has no idea what they’re talking about. If one person makes some sort of unfounded complaint about voter intimidation, the guidelines go out the window and it’s time to tell MJM readers that some thin fantasy is fact. The MJM is little better than a blog at this point. Maybe they’re hoping that Lowell Feld will promote their stories to the front page at RK, and they needed to make an outrageous claim or two in order to get noticed.
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Greg L was the one urging people to report “irregularities.”
I think you said you were there for 2 or 3 hours of the 13 that the polls were open. How do you know what did and did not happen? It seems if it does not fit your agenda then it must be false.
It is not a good thing to report as fact. You’re certainly correct to make that point. Glad that doesn’t happen around this site.
There was this interesting opinion under this article.
http://www.manassasjm.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=MJM%2FMGArticle%2FWPN_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173353469846&path=!opinion
I was at Stonewall Middle from early afternoon till the polls closed. There were no riots, no yelling at Hispanics and no intimidation. There were some Hispanics that were accompanied by interpretors who casted votes for them.
The only intimidation I saw was the lady from 9500Liberty who got nasty with one of the workers who was handing out sample ballots from the Republican party. Nancy Lyall came later with her friend who owns the sign in Manassas. Also, there was a lady working the polls that had a sign on her van that said “Goodbye Stirrup” which was parked in the front parking lot near where people enter to vote. They made quite a crowd where the Democrat poll workers were standing.
Nobody was yelling at any Hispanics while I was there. I guess the MJM and the Potomac News are into fabrications. Well, it just goes to show you that you can not trust them to report the facts.
It is so sad that this area does not have a reliable newspaper.
The amazing thing is that you (Greg and Patty) seem to expect something different from the Pot News/MSM…this is simply more of the SOS that we see day-in and day-out.
Guess if the Pot News reports it, there’s no need for an investigation, huh?
Greg criticizes the paper for not waiting for the investigation to be completed; then goes on to state that the investigation will reveal that nothing happened. WTF?
And he was the one urging people to report “irregularities” in the first place!
I was at Stonewall from 5:00 am until 9:00 am. Nothing happened. There were between two and three Republicans there handing out sample ballots and literature and between five and eight Democrats doing the same. There was no yelling. There was no harassment, by either side.
I am struck by the complete lack of facts in the MJM’s coverage. There were election officials on hand running the polls all day. Did the MJM ask them what happened? FOX news was there part of the day. Did they ask their fellow journalists what happened? No - that would be too much like work.
The only “fact” in the entire piece is the fact that Betty Weimer heard rumors that something happened. I heard rumors too. About 8:30 the PWCRP sent two people over to check on rumors that the pro-illegal alien folks were bullying the poll workers into letting illegal aliens vote. I told them nothing of the sort had happened and they left, satisfied with the integrity of the vote.
That’s how you are supposed to do things. You hear a rumor; you try to verify it before you jump to collusions. But not our lovely MJM. Rumors are more fun and a heck of a lot easier to gather than facts.
The problem is this article is going to be translated and distributed to every Hispanic in the area – proof that the pro-law folks are out to get them. Never mind that it never happened. The media said it did, so it must have.
Ironically, Republicans are going to get blamed for sowing fear in our legal immigrant community.
Ducky, don’t forget the difference…
Greg asked people to report irregularities that they may have seen.
On the other hand, the Potomac News/MJM published a report (based upon rumor) that voter intimidation did in fact occur.
Bit of a difference, don’t you think? I think there’s a huge difference.
Was it our very own JOSH whose letter appeared in the JM
this morning? Nice going, Josh…you certainly are right on
to tell them to cancel your subscription! Some of the bloggers
suggested to me quite some time ago to cancel mine also, and
if I wanted to read any of the garbage, I should go on line to do
so. BVBL saved me some money!! Thanks, you guys.
I wasn’t intimidated in the least. I knew my address, had my driver’s license, and voter registration card. I heard of no intimidation at Stonewall.
Not, unless you call teachers yelling at poll workers.
The MJM/Potomac News, needs to start printing stories/opions based on FACTS not RUMORS!
Looks like Josh has another great letter to the editor. Way to go Josh.
From the MJM article: “This is what happens when the county government takes the tact [sic] of demonizing illegal immigrants for the sake of garnering votes.”
Yes, I just love to tact back and forth in my sailboat on the Occoquan thinking up ways to demonize those illegal aliens.
I just canceled my MJM subscription. I can get all the information I need from online. I do not need their biased slant for illegal immigrants in my home.
Lafayette,
Did you get the messages?
Patty,
Yes, I did. More lies, what can we say?
The MJM writes “natural born Hispanic citizens” - excuse me, but if “natural born”, wouldn’t they be called AMERICANS???
Lafayette,
Just found out that our informant says the “coke machine” works. I wonder where they will put it.
If possible, donate your MJM savings to BVBL.
Yeah,
it’s me
I took another shot at them, hopefully it will do some good. Why read what I can read for free online? I cancelled it, I was tired of paying to see garbage I can get for free. That Gary Jacobsen really got under my skin though, hiring day laborers and then having the audacity for suing someone who hypothesized that they were illegal. I really want to read a paper where the columnists sue people, not!
Josh
Well, I have to ask an off topic question: Where is the Patriot? I haven’t seen him around in over a week.
Ok. Where did anyone prove that this so-called “voter intimidation” occurred? The PWC Registrar’s office said there were “rumours” that this occurred, yet no one can prove that it did. All that we know happened is the pro-illegal alien lobby is claiming something happened. The paper’s original NEWS article said as much.
Where the editorial staff has run off the rails is that in their opinion piece, they basically say that it DID happen, but offer no proof. All they do is repeat the quote from the Registrars office that said they heard “rumors”, and from this, report it as fact.
Here we have an editorial staff that rightly thrashed democratic candidates for making stuff up, and twisting the truth to suit their agenda, yet the MJM is guilty of the same thing. People need to call them on this.
What we do know is this…The MJM didn’t have anyone there to observe this, and is repeating heresay. Did they interview the election officials that were inside? No. Did they contact any of the campaigns to see if their poll workers saw anything? No. Did they contact the PWCDC or PWCGOP to see if they had seen anything? No. They just repeated a rumor. This isn’t journalism, it’s sensationalism.
Got Patriot?
Take time to read Letters To The Editor in todays MJM -
“Illegals set back African Americans” by Angelo May of
Triangle. Think this is just the tip of an iceberg.
dolph-Do you miss him?
I don’t know about Dolph - but I do …
I noticed he wasn’t posting as well.
I miss his videos, etc.
Obviously I missed seeing him around or I wouldn’t have asked where he was. I am concerned if any of the regulars don’t show up for a while. I don’t have to agree with someone’s every word to have concern about them as a human being.
Did I cover that question adequately?
Big dog, In what way?
mcr,
I miss his posting and videos too.
“64″ -
First, read the letter — carefully.
I have, I am curious to hear your opinion on it.
How can you guys deny though that deep down inside if you could’ve done it en masse you would’ve stood at the polls yelling at hispanic-looking people that if they are illegal they will be deported?
Whoa - maybe because THAT is NOT how we were raised??? I recently was at my son’s soccer game and the parents for the other team were absolutely atrocious. The funny/sad thing is, when I asked my son if he can hear the things that the parent’s yell out onto the field, he said “No, it just sounds like mumbling.”
So, to answer your question, no, we would not.
Hey whoa, can you deny that if you had the opportunity, your spittle-flecked rantings would be directed at anyone not wearing sandals and tie-died t-shirts, telling them that you only the proletariat, as directed by their politburo, is the only entity allowed to have a say in government?
I thought not.
hmm…I have to wonder whoa, that if Hispanic people are at the polls, they should be there which means they are legal…interesting thought though. You are the type of person that give those of us that wish to have the borders secure, a bad name. I do not have the desire to stand at the polls and harass LEGAL immigrants nor do I judge that ALL Hispanics are ILLEGAL either.
Again, I do not recognize the Hispanic as the only ILLEGALS. I recognize ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS being illegal, no matter what they look like. The Hispanics do not have the market cornered on being illegal. This is why I am careful not to be culture specific when I refer to illegal immigrants.
Seems to me you just want to try to stir the pot to a roiling boil, then take the posts out of context and post them somewhere else and say, “Lookie here at the racists on bvbl.net.” That seems to be the MO for most of the sympathetic illegal immigrant people. One day this will all come to roost if something isn’t done now to curb the entry of illegal immigrants.
Whoa -
We wouldn’t do it - but would YOU? Do YOU feel that way deep down inside?
whoa
I don’t believe for one second that anyone would do what you are suggesting.
BTW-
The 5 foot tall meter that was put in at the house Greg posted about is gone!
Whoa,
As your name implies, I will speak to you as though I were talking to a jackass. Whoaaaaa, I vote at that poll. I saw nothing irregular when I was there. I had no inner desires to say anything rude to anyone. You will notice that my inner desires were not held in check for this post.
Your own bias is showing when you direct such a question to everyone here.
Whoa,
I will speak to you like dolph too. I vote at that poll too. I and a few others have stated we saw nothing irregular. You are biased enough to have a job at the MJM/Potomac News.
“64″
My observation is that Afro-Americans have a
long history of struggle in this country that included
harsh slavery and demeaning segregation. Part of the
“unfinished business” of our democracy is to redeem
the dreams of those that made that struggle. Many
see the focus now shifting to catering to recently
arrived illegals and not those who have been waiting three
hundred years for full economic and social justice.
Dolph,
It’s okay I found the word jackass in the dictionary and the Bible. I still didn’t find bob wire, LOL
Whoa
I was at the polls from 5:40 am until 7:30 pm, with three quick trips taking me away to do things for my children. The alleged intimidation against Hispanic voters DID NOT OCCUR. No one was shouting anything at anyone, with the exception of a SMS teacher who had absolutely no decorum or class yelling at a person for smoking a cigarette on school property.
I did witness the “translators” going into the polls on nine separate occasions with persons who could not speak English, presumably to assist them with voting.
A pro-illegal alien supporter did get in my face and demanded my name and other information about me. When I refused to give her the information, she stood across from me and stared at me and one other person for several minutes. I consider this a form of intimidation. I advised Nancy Lyall of the inappropriate behavior of one of her “crowd” when she arrived.
I also love how the MJM believe folks who are not allowed by law to vote do not vote.
Big Dog,
Don’t you think that with all of the political and social gains the Afro-Americans have received in the last 40+ years could be seen as progress towards finished business?
I really do not like the term Afro-American, Latin-American or Asian-American. Why can’t it be just plain Americans??
I feel that the illegal issue is one that requires a fight to save the country, while I agree the ancestors of the people that were brought here as slaves did have dreams and ambitions, don’t you think that many of those dreams are being recognized with quotas for schools, pageants dedicated to their race only and a history month?
Would the movie “Black Men Only Play Basketball” go as far as “White Men Can’t Jump”? Not hardly because it would be considered racist.
Everyone already tip toes around that group of Americans as it is. In this world of PC, no one can really say anything without the risk of being dragged through the mud.
Is this group of Americans afraid they are not going to continue to get attention?
We have a battle right now to save our country from illegal immigration. We have to pick our battles.
BTW, whoa is all over this blog spewing enough to try to get a rise out of people. He is probably a Potnews/mjm employee looking for lines to place in a story without putting the full posts by people in it.
Medic64,
Perhaps it’s time to turn the IGNORE BUTTON-ON!! on whoa.
When some don’t have a good argument they are left to resort to spewing, rantings, rumors, and even lies. IMHO
Very true Lafeyette. I have not responded to his drooling idiot comment about me in another post. I was happy to see fellow bloggers speak up about how inappropriate the comment was though (c:
Arizona Combats Illegal Alien Onslaught
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx3idd0WwVU
Freedom,
This is for you.
http://www.youtube.com/user/AmericanResolve
/\/\3|)ic 64 said on 13 Nov 2007 at 5:33 pm:
“BTW, whoa is all over this blog spewing enough to try to get a rise out of people. He is probably a Potnews/mjm employee looking for lines to place in a story without putting the full posts by people in it.”
Frankly, I’m surprised we haven’t seen more trolls. It’s been pretty quiet, which has my spidey sense tingling.
Personally, I’d like to see another round of boycotts, work-stoppages and protests. Might make the Christmas shopping season a lot easier!
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All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.
Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States: If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law. But in all such Cases the Votes of both Houses shall be determined by yeas and Nays, and the Names of the Persons voting for and against the Bill shall be entered on the Journal of each House respectively. If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.
Every Order, Resolution, or Vote to which the Concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a question of Adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the United States; and before the Same shall take Effect, shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him, shall be repassed by two thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives, according to the Rules and Limitations prescribed in the Case of a Bill.
Section. 8.
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;
To establish Post Offices and post Roads;
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;
To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;
To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
To provide and maintain a Navy;
To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;–And
To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
Section. 9.
The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.
The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.
No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.
No Capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or enumeration herein before directed to be taken.
No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State.
No Preference shall be given by any Regulation of Commerce or Revenue to the Ports of one State over those of another; nor shall Vessels bound to, or from, one State, be obliged to enter, clear, or pay Duties in another.
No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.
No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.
Section. 10.
No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.
No State shall, without the Consent of the Congress, lay any Imposts or Duties on Imports or Exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing it’s inspection Laws: and the net Produce of all Duties and Imposts, laid by any State on Imports or Exports, shall be for the Use of the Treasury of the United States; and all such Laws shall be subject to the Revision and Controul of the Congress.
No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.
During the debates on the adoption of the Constitution, its opponents repeatedly charged that the Constitution as drafted would open the way to tyranny by the central government. Fresh in their minds was the memory of the British violation of civil rights before and during the Revolution. They demanded a “bill of rights” that would spell out the immunities of individual citizens. Several state conventions in their formal ratification of the Constitution asked for such amendments; others ratified the Constitution with the understanding that the amendments would be offered.
On September 25, 1789, the First Congress of the United States therefore proposed to the state legislatures 12 amendments to the Constitution that met arguments most frequently advanced against it. The first two proposed amendments, which concerned the number of constituents for each Representative and the compensation of Congressmen, were not ratified. Articles 3 to 12, however, ratified by three-fourths of the state legislatures, constitute the first 10 amendments of the Constitution, known as the Bill of Rights.
THE BILL OF RIGHTS
Amendments 1-10 of the Constitution
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The Conventions of a number of the States having, at the time of adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added, and as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government will best insure the beneficent ends of its institution;
Resolved, by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, two-thirds of both Houses concurring, that the following articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as amendments to the Constitution of the United States; all or any of which articles, when ratified by three-fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes as part of the said Constitution, namely:
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Amendment II
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
Amendment III
No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Amendment V
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.
Amendment VII
In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.
Amendment VIII
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
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14th Amendment
Sect. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law, nor deny any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
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In law, naturalization refers to an act whereby a person acquires a citizenship different from that person’s citizenship at birth. Naturalization is most commonly associated with economic migrants or refugees who have immigrated to a country and resided there as aliens, and who have voluntarily and actively chosen to become citizens of that country after meeting specific requirements. However, naturalization that is at least passive, and often not voluntary, can take place upon annexation or border adjustments between countries. Unless resolved by denaturalization or renunciation of citizenship, naturalization can lead to multiple citizenship.
The origin of the term “naturalization” is that it gives to a resident alien almost all of the rights held by a natural-born citizen.
In general, basic requirements for naturalization are that the applicant hold a legal status as a full-time resident for a minimum period of time and that the applicant promise to obey and uphold that country’s laws, to which an oath or pledge of allegiance is sometimes added. Some countries also require that a naturalized national must renounce any other citizenship that he currently holds, forbidding dual citizenship, but whether this renunciation actually causes loss of the person’s original citizenship will again depend on the laws of the countries involved.
Nationality is traditionally either based on jus soli (”right of the territory”) or on jus sanguinis (”right of blood”), although it now usually mixes both. Whatever the case, the massive increase in population flux due to globalization and the sharp increase in the numbers of refugees following World War I has created an important class of non-citizens, sometimes called denizens. In some rare cases, procedures of mass naturalization were passed (Greece in 1922, Armenian refugees or, more recently, Argentine people escaping the economic crisis). As naturalization laws had been created to deal with the rare case of people separated from their nation state because they lived abroad (expatriates), Western democracies were not ready to naturalize the massive influx of stateless people which followed massive denationalizations and the expulsion of minorities in the first part of the 20th century — the two greatest such minorities after World War I were the Jews and the Armenians, but they also counted the (mostly aristocratic) Russians which had escaped the 1917 October Revolution and the war communism period, and then the Spanish refugees. As did Hannah Arendt point out, internment camps became the “only nation” of such stateless people, since they were often considered “undesirable” and were stuck in an illegal situation (their country had expelled them or deprived them of their nationality, while they hadn’t been naturalized, thus living in a judicial no man’s land).
After World War II, the increase in international migrations created a new category of refugees, most of them economic refugees. For economic, political, humanitarian and pragmatic reasons, many states passed laws allowing a person to acquire their citizenship after birth (such as by marriage to a national or by having ancestors who are nationals of that country), in order to reduce the scope of this category. However, this system still maintains in some countries a large part of the immigrated population in an illegal status, albeit some massive regularizations (in Spain by José Luis Zapatero’s government and in Italy by Berlusconi’s government).
redawn - I heard the story about the (can you believe it) both FBI and CIA employee. This is REALLY scary. If those two organizations can’t spot a faker of that magnitude , just imagine how many other fakes (moles) there must be. Shivers!!!!
Krusty,
Do you think that there is any truth the NAU? I just have questions about our Government and from where I sit, I blame them for the hostile environment that is being felt and fought over from county to county, city to city state to state….
Krusty,
For the record, I don’ trust anyone as far as I can throw them. I also believe not what I hear and half of what I see.( helps with the shivers
)
Recent News - Rape by Illegal Immigrant - Fairfax County
http://www.wusa9.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=65218&provider=gnews
Wake the **** up Governor Kaine!
Yea, redawn, I agree. Just makes it hard to bring up children who, as we know, really, really want to believe everything. How do we warn them without making them calloused?
Old Ronnie said something abt the Russians “…… (can’t remember the word) but verify. Well, seems verification at the FBI and CIA doesn’t have all that much veritas in it, alas.
Anonymous@10:01
This is SICKENING!!
Ditto to your comment to Gov. “candy” Kaine!
Wake up AMERICA!! This is happening all over our great nation.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!
The Old Dominion needs 287(g) for State Troopers and DMV
Krusty,
“Yea, redawn, I agree. Just makes it hard to bring up children who, as we know, really, really want to believe everything. How do we warn them without making them calloused?”
Calloused could be a good thing. Of course it would depend on who you ask and the situation.It depends on how you use the term calloused. Calloused =thick headed or thick skinned?
Wisdom that I have learned SO FAR, would lead me to answer your question this way….let them fall, get calloused, it is the best way to learn, it is what happens after……..
Agreed, redawn, callouses are what protects us from getting rubbed raw! (no, no, not thick headed). I’m going to bed.
Enjoyed our exchange.
Anonymous said on 13 Nov 2007 at 10:01 pm:
Recent News - Rape by Illegal Immigrant - Fairfax County
Isn’t Alexandria a sanctuary city?
Krusty,
Good night
giggles….
999,
“Isn’t Alexandria a sanctuary city?”
The City of Alexandria is.
There are some parts of Fairfax County that have a Alexandria address.
I vote for Greg deleting the long posts. No one wants to read all that crappola. Anonymous, go find somewhere else to bore people. Been there, done that.
Anyone else voting?
anonymous @ 12:33
I’ll vote yes with you. I must admit I just post article from WaPo, because I did NOT have link.
In exchange how about a screen name or anon#?-lol
Voting with anonymous and Lafayette. Don’t understand what those posters expect to gain or give.
Krusty, Anonymous and Lafayette, I’m voting with you. We
really don’t need all the history lessons posted here. Please!
Patriot, where the heck are you?
I think The Patriot is on extended duty of “The Patriot Patrol”.
I hope he returns safely.
sigh….I was the anonymous 12:33 am. oooops.
Do we need more votes to get rid of that crap? I bet not one person has read it. NO one is THAT bored.
here’s one more vote - no more lonnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggggggg posts!
(please)
mcr, voting doesn’t seem to be working. bummer!