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“Gringo Papers” Not Required
By Greg L | 16 November 2007 | Illegal Aliens, Virginia Politics | 142 Comments
Alexandria has been trumpeting lately just how well they’re supposedly dealing with a steady influx of illegal aliens, and today’s Washington Times helps point out one way this is done. Sure, let’s advertise that people buying furniture on credit “don’t need gringo papers”, provide illegal aliens with taxpayer-funded public benefits (a policy that violates state law), and in every way hand over a large swath of Alexandria to illegal aliens. Illegal aliens are sure happy about this, and don’t complain.
Meanwhile, what about the rest of the residents — the “gringos” — who are supposed to just accept that they’ve been relegated to second-class citizenship by an lobby based on one ethnic identity? “For those outside the race, nothing” is starting to get tangible in this beacon of supposed accommodation and harmony.
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DOUBLE STANDARD! How about selling water beds for ‘Wetbacks!’
Regardless, how the term was intended I find it offensive. Just like sexual harassment, it’s not the intention, it’s the perception. And, I perceive this to be offensive!!!
I suppose if I said ‘furniture for spics’ someone might get offended? I fail to see the difference! ‘Gringo’ does not have a neutral connotation.
I’ve never been inside of a Casa store, but I can guess they are taking full advantage of their customers. Charging them Henredon prices and delivering Marlo quality!! Not to mention they’re probably doing in-house financing!
“Blanca Granados, the store’s assistant manager, translated the message to mean “just ‘without white papers,’ like Social Security or like that.”
So, they get to use a derogatory term, akin to the N-word, or S-word, and it’s ok?
On another note, I wonder if Blanca is any kin to Alex from the PN/MJM. Would explain a lot….Hmmm.
I think they are playing to the people leaving PWC and other jurisdictions. Mean old Gringos running poor illegal hispanics out of their homes? Home repossessed by Gringo bankers? No papers? No Problem. Here at Casa Furniture we are happy to help you. Financing at predatory rates, and we don’t mind exploiting our own….
Greg, take down Dolph’s post. Language like his is exactly what our opponents want us to use. Let them engage in hate speech; we should happily occupy the high ground.
I agree Gringo does not have a neutral connotation. Trying to defend it as something other than pejorative is an exercise in futility, which some people jump into far too earnestly.
Referring to proper credit documentation as “Gringo Papers” really underscores the fact that many people who are here illegally have no intention of assimilation. There’s a standard for the Gringo to get credit - or any other legal citizen, mind you - but don’t worry about that here.
Equal parts unsettling and unsurprising.
Feel free. Please get my gender correct though. I will gladly give in to the double standard. I might as well start getting used to it.
Snoop, Dolph’s post should stand. She wasn’t disparaging anyone, she was making a point. We can’t debate how these words affect discourse if we can never say the words to illustrate our point. Dolph’s point was that it was an unacceptable use of the word, and her cited statement bears that out.
Snoop,
Further comment: If you were a regular contributor here, you would know that I am probably one of the more neutrally speaking people on this blog. Go back and read very carefully what I wrote. I think you missed the point that both terms are offensive. Compare/contrast. If Greg wants to take down my comment, no hard feelings towards him. It would be the first time I was edited after being here 5 months. Actually, I think you are whining.
Thanks Rob,
We crossed in the mail on that one!
Don’t ever change, Dolph.
And make sure your screen door is shut. Patriot-Temp is on patrol!
Here is a current link concerning the SPP/NAU, the reason the Feds are dragging their feet to enforce already existing laws: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58720
With this guy’s record, why is his sentence so light? Why is he not in jail for life? http://wral.com/news/local/story/2049661/
Rob Smalls - Patriot Temp said on 16 Nov 2007 at 11:54 am:
I agree - Dolph’s post should remain. Why should the “other side” get a pass while we just stand by being good ladies and gents with our idiotic political correctness? Enough already!
Patriot Temp - I’m happy to say that all screen doors are shut on my street…(for now, anyway!)
Just like the sign in Manassas, I’ve got to stand up for this merchant’s right to freedom of speech. If you’re offended by it, get over it. I encourage the use of epithets because their use reveals more about the user than about those whom they are intended to describe.
SoV - Exactly right. “Freedom of Speech makes it easier to spot the idiots.”
***Referring to proper credit documentation as “Gringo Papers” really underscores the fact that many people who are here illegally have no intention of assimilation. There’s a standard for the Gringo to get credit - or any other legal citizen, mind you - but don’t worry about that here.***
I couldn’t agree more.
White folks need an Al Sharpton. We never gang up and rally around each other like other minorities do. It will be our undoing. Stuff like this, affirmative action and other reverse racist tactics used by minorities should not be tolerated. The rule is that it seems to be ok and not racist as long as it is directed towards whitey. Enough I say! Time to start rallying and protesting! I say a couple hundred of us need to meet at this place tomorrow with picket signs labeling them as the racists that they are.
Speaking of signs, and I apologize if this has already been discussed, what ever happened to the “deadline” to demolish that property on which that lovely sign is placed on in the City? I thought the deadline was the end of October. Is it going to stay there forever? Is anyone doing anything to get rid of it?
Park’d -
The last thing that any ethnic community (even the white/caucasion one)needs is some mouthpiece like Al Sharpton telling us when to be offended and where to direct our ire. Sharpton has traction only because a mob and complicit media confers an air of legitimacy to him. Despite all his pomp, what has he ever really accomplished? Nothing, save for his accessory in the deaths of several people due to incitement and the ruination of lives with inflamed, exaggerated or outright false accusations. Oh, and he’s managed to make himself reasonably wealthy and famous. Think Tawana Brawley. Think Don Imus. Think Duke LaCrosse. Even the Jena 6 case has springboarded him back to national prominence, despite the facts of the case which don’t bear out the myths he transmits to a sound-bite hungry media.
I’ll be the first to rally behind an issue I find important, but it damned sure won’t be because some spokesman for “my race” issues some half-cocked clarion call for persons of similar pallor to be aggrieved. I’m better than that, because race is not the be-all end-all factor in how I choose to conduct my life. Sharpton is a joke to free-thinking people.
I know it’s a huge temptation to go in there with our machetes
and tear the ugly thing down, but I hope that those of us who
participate in this blog and in particular, HSM members will
respectfully refrain from this type of behavior. That’s what
they are wishing for and we can’t give them the satisfaction.
Yeah that may be true but he gets attention and action for his people and that’s a far sight more than what I see going on for white folks these days. Everyone is always crying racism, racism, racism, but from where I stand, white folks are the only ones being abused and being taken advantage of. NO RACE should be given preferential treatment over another, especially in today’s day and age. I’m sick of being discriminated against and I am willing to do whatever it takes to start to see results.
Speaking of signs, but totally off topic, did anyone notice that Kline’s Drive-In on Rt.28 is closing? It closes Wednesday and for those of you that have lived in this area for awhile, it is a landmark. Stop in for one more cone or chili dog. I did today.
There is also the small little matter, unless I have misread a few comments by contributors on here, that not all the regulars here are white. I think we need to be very careful not to hang out our ‘white only’ shingle too fast. We may leave out a few people who very much consider themselves part of this blog community and I do too.
He (Sharpton) gets attention for himself. The action he inspires seems pretty worthless if not harmful to the community he purports to lead. Imus gets fired for a month or two, and now he’s back to making millions. How is anyone better off? Duke Lacrosse team gets exonerated, but now has a permanent scar on each of their records, and in the meantime the stripper Sharpton supported is exposed as a liar and a fraud, which would embarass any other supporter capable of shame.
The only way to defeat racism is to take the emphasis off of race and place it onto individuals, instead of their respective ethnicities. Otherwise every race is a victim to another, and every sleight is a violation of someone else’s heritage, perceived or actual.
So is Jesse Jackson. I think once the two of them are gone, things will settle down. They keep crap stirred up!!!
I find this racist and offensive. Will the MJM/PotNews say anything about it?? Nope, because it goes against the people we are trying to bring focus on. It is like turning on the light with roaches in the house, they scatter once the light is on. The light is on the illegal aliens now and they are starting to scatter. It will work and we are making progress.
I guess I can not go into Casa Furniture and purchase anything without “gringo” papers huh??
Gainesville Resident said on 16 Nov 2007 at 2:03 pm:
Speaking of signs, but totally off topic, did anyone notice that Kline’s Drive-In on Rt.28 is closing? It closes Wednesday and for those of you that have lived in this area for awhile, it is a landmark. Stop in for one more cone or chili dog. I did today.
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Are they closing permanently, or are they closing for the season?
Bob, the South Manassas location is closing for good. THey are putting in a bank. Don’t know about the Yorkshire/Maplewood location.
Here:
http://www.manassasjm.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=MJM/MGArticle/WPN_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173353514581&path=
Exactly Rob!! I have had a another post in another thread along these lines. Why does there have to be African-American, Asian-American, Hispanic-American? Why can’t it just be American without the hyphen??
It’s fashinable, especially in Republican circles, to bash Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, and they deserve it a lot of the time. But keep in mind Republican-friendly FOB hucksters like Linda Chavez.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/12/AR2007081201371_pf.html
Rick - I’m no Republican. I bash only the deserving.
I’ve been following your Chavez posts on the other thread. I especially liked your want ad for a chore volunteer.
/\/\3|)ic 64 said on 16 Nov 2007 at 2:15 pm:
Exactly Rob!! I have had a another post in another thread along these lines. Why does there have to be African-American, Asian-American, Hispanic-American? Why can’t it just be American without the hyphen??
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Remember Teddy Roosevelt…
“In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin.
But this is predicated upon the person’s becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American…There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag… We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language… and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”
— Theodore Roosevelt… 1907
Did Sharpton apologize for his remarks and try to help the Duke players regain some of their reputation back? NO!!!!! If he had, I would have a greater respect for the man, but he didn’t, so I continue to loathe anything he gets involved with. The things he gets involved with seem to be high profile so he will be sure to get on the camera anyway!! Of course Jesse is no different.
Rob Smalls..if you ran for MP city council, you’d have my vote.
I remember T Roosevelt WELL!!!! That very quote is what I am speaking about!! Once you hyphen it, you water it down and allow many interpretations. That is the problem, we have too many interpretations of being an American.
Seems the black folks are realizing that illegal immigrants are taking the spotlight from them so they have to start thumping their chests again. Get over it! You are an American, just like most on this blog. It is time to unite and fight the war on illegal aliens. Blacks have gained their position in society. If you do not think so just look around, quotas for higher education, a black entertainment TV station, Black Miss America and other things. It is time for the black community to get over the oppression argument and join forces with ALL LEGAL US citizens and fight this war of illegal aliens. One solid voice will sound louder than only a few!!
I am not prejudice, just tired of hearing how black people are discriminated against all the time. Let’s lock arms and move forward to make America safe and a better place to live for ALL Americans!!!!
I liked it too Rick!! It was good…LOL (c:
Rick,
I totally agree with you about Al Sharpton, especially as your comments relate to the Duke lacrosse players. He vilified them and has yet to apologize or even admit their innocence. I thought he was a jerk before this. Now I just change the channel. No respect!
Thanks MP. I might need it.
Park’d: I know you will take this as an insult and think I’m goading you. I am not. You may wish to seek some counseling about your issues with anger and race. Once you are at peace with yourself, life smoothes out and becomes enjoyable. Rage and hate are really not conducive to good health and a long life. Just a suggestion.
veteran, he is probably like many people who are tired of having the race card played all the time. Obviously, I do not need to speak for him and he is no where near bashful, but that could very well be the issue. I know I am tired of it being played all the time. Especially when it is convenient!
Dolph, He demanded apologies from Imus and Dog the Bounty Hunter, but has yet to apologize for his role in the Duke case!! I just don’t see how he can call himself a man of the cloth and act that way.
Gone Fishing said on 16 Nov 2007 at 1:50 pm:
I understand what you are saying, but does anyone know what the status of the sign in old town is? What’s up with the property?
Medic64 - Did you want to borrow that book I mentioned in the mortgage bailout thread, shipmate?
I replied in the other thread (c: I have it on order already (c: Thanks for the offer though, shipmate!
Medic64 - Sorry, missed your reply in the original thread.
Gainesville Resident,
I read that story on line late last night about Klines. This is one of the last remaining Manassas landmarks. I will be going there tomorrow for one last footlong chili dog myself. I can remember growing up, they only had chocolate soft serve on the weekends. I’m heartbroken to read about the closing of Klines.
Bob Sentz,
The other Klines(Maplewood) will be closing for the season this weekend.
Anyone that’s been here any length of time knows what a great place Klines is.
/\/\3dic (did I do that right?)
No argument here. He needs to publically apologize. He isn’t the only one, but he had the biggest mouth. I don’t see the panthers offering out an olive branch either.
I am also getting a little tired of Dog blubbering. I suspect most of those tears are over all the money he will be losing. I still defend his right to talk how he wants in his own home, whether I approve or not.
Imus is Imus. I have never listened to him but once. Once did it.
LOL @ Dolph, it is close /\/\e shift backslash | close paren )ic 64
Medic or Doc, I will answer to both (c:
I agree, a person should be able to say whatever they want in their own home whether I agree with it or not. This is a slippery slope we tread when the gov’t can get into our personal business in the privacy of our own homes. He is probably crying because he lost his ob. I am sure it was hard for him to maintain it as a convicted felon anyway. I don’t think this is the only thing that caused him to loose his show. I remember something about a warrant in Mexico for him as well. Just adding the straws that will eventually break the back of whatever seems to be carrying them these days. Can’t say camels anymore since we have to be PC towards our Middle East friends.
Imus isn’t any different than Stern or Opie and Anthony. It is free speech no matter what. They have a right to say what they want just like I have the right not to listen to them if I don’t want to. I can change the station which leaves me out of the ads that sponsor their shows.
All of this crap about demanding an apology just goes to show how we tread lightly in today’s world. I hate having to be PC all the time, it gives me a headache!!!!
I say let them leave it up as long as possible. Let them String Christmas lights, put a little nativity scene, Write “Feliz Navidad Racist Gringos” and such. Every day that the eyesore stands, is another day that people get pissed off and want to do something about illegals. It won’t go away, and you can’t ignore it. Your reactions to this prove my point. It has pissed you off enough to post here. Mad as Hell? Join HSM, go to City Council. Don’t push to have the sign taken down. Push to have services denied to illegals. Push for more overcrowding and zoning enforcement. Push to outlaw pushcart street vendors. Let that sign be a symbol of just how bold the illegal community and their supporters have become, and how we need to combat them at every turn.
No worries Mr. Smalls!!
mcr & Gone Fishing,
Here’s some new picture of the sign taken very recently. Please, look at the address 9500 Liberty St. Why hasn’t anyone brought up the fact the address is the same as the Documentary. Hmmmmm.
How long are those “don’s john’s” gonna be there. There’s no signs of construction or a building permit. That’s just all out NASTY! Enjoy the pictures, as always.
http://community.webshots.com/user/Lafayette13
“Please, look at the address 9500 Liberty St. Why hasn’t anyone brought up the fact the address is the same as the Documentary. Hmmmmm.”
That is quite odd.
Here is the assessment infor for 9500 Liberty St, for anyone who doesn’t know how to see it:
http://data.visionappraisal.com/ManassasVA/findpid.asp?iTable=pid&pid=3758
Doc - Mr. is for the wardroom. I worked for a living. Just Smalls is fine.
MP Resident -
Thank you. Looks like they need to revise a few line items on that property.
Laf -
You are THE roving photographer! Thanks for sharing! I agree with Steve, that the more people see it, the more fed up they get. But I thought that there was a demolition date or something? And that date has got to be WAY overdue by now. Just curious.
““Please, look at the address 9500 Liberty St. Why hasn’t anyone brought up the fact the address is the same as the Documentary. Hmmmmm.””
Believe me…this was noticed longgggg ago.
/\/\3|)ic,
You know, I just used a short cut before. I think from here on out I will either copy and paste or just cheat and say M3dic. Big NUMB3RS fan here so I will keep the 3.
I once stepped on someone’s toes by saying something like ‘none of us are sacred cows.’ I’ll be damned if there wasn’t a Hindu in the audience who asked me what I meant….you know…the big set up. I asked him, after determining he was Hindu, if cows were considered special to him…he said yes. So I said, well I meant none of us is special. He said ok and that was that….but it irritated the daylights out of me. Everyone, it seems, is a sacred cow. Pretty soon, there will be no language left.
ok Chief Smalls (c; I was an HM2 myself, it was hard to make rate as a Corpsman in peace time (which was a good thing because we are the first to go into battle with the Marines) (c:
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Dolph, it is OK, I am not hung up on how people use my handle when they respond. (c:
You are correct about the language. I can’t see why people can’t just speak their mind instead of tip toeing around the truth.
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Lafayette, you should be a photo journalist. I am worried about you taking some of those pictures because not everyone likes being photographed and they may come after you. PLEASE be careful!!!
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MCR, it probably is and as long as there are sympathizers out there for that group, it will probably stand. I hope none of the people on this blog tear it down or anyone else for that matter. It makes them martyrs if it happens.
mcr,
I’m not a city resident, but I think the demolition date passed about a month ago. Maybe, some fine citizen from Manassas knows that. I agree to keep that eyesore up there.
Batson,
Yes, I know some of us have known the address for a longggg time. I just brought it up, because of the address was painted on the new pictures. I think most may have over looked that little fact. (Just a PSA of sorts, friendly reminder) Take it easy!
Their sign says ‘…we deserve the respect of all civilized people of America.’ Maybe someone needs to clue them in that respect is something you need to give to get!!
/\/\3|)ic 64 - Just curious…did you ever live on Carlton Dr. in Manassas? I ask because I had a neighbor that went by ‘Doc.’
and Grumpy, Sleepy, Sneezy, et.al.
Know what? There’s rarely need to refer to a person by skin color….afterall, we all have/had Moms and Dads who love/loved us….and when we did things that were good, they were proud; when we did things that were bad, they were disappointed. That applies to all of us, regardless of skin color.
When I was a young boy, I was taught the polite term for people of color, and over the years, I’ve adjusted to the changing preferences of the various races. Personally, I don’t care for hyphenated terms, e.g., “African-American,” or “Chinese-American,” I just happen not to think it’s genuine, particularly for those who have never even been to those parts of the world. Yet, if that’s what they prefer, I don’t mind accommodating their preference.
Unfortunately, there are a few hate mongers out there who thrive upon racism — that’s their bread-and-butter, they feed off the people of their own race whom thay claim to be supporting/defending. In my opinion, those are the most worrisome racists of all.
My bottom line is this: call me “gringo,” call me “whitey,” call me “racist,” call me whatever you want….or don’t even call me, it makes no difference to me. I was raised better than that and I’m thankful for it.
nope I sure didn’t. HM’s with the Marines usually go by Doc. I had training to be deployed with the Marines (8404), but my other C school took precedence when it came time for transfers. (8489) Ortho tech was my primary NEC. This, coupled with my Paramedic / Fire Fighter training has most of my friends calling me Doc or Sparky (c:
I did serve with the Marines on the USS Pelileu in late 88. I was part of Surgical Team Three from NAVHOSP San Diego.
“Yes, I know some of us have known the address for a longggg time. I just brought it up, because of the address was painted on the new pictures. I think most may have over looked that little fact. (Just a PSA of sorts, friendly reminder) Take it easy!”
I know you know. I am with you. The 9500 Liberty folks are as pro-illegal as they come. I didn’t want folks thinking that Laffayette, who is all over this issue, was late to the game. Laffayette was suited up a ready to take the snap. Not a slam.
***Know what? There’s rarely need to refer to a person by skin color….afterall, we all have/had Moms and Dads who love/loved us….and when we did things that were good, they were proud; when we did things that were bad, they were disappointed. That applies to all of us, regardless of skin color.***
I agree 100%
***When I was a young boy, I was taught the polite term for people of color, and over the years, I’ve adjusted to the changing preferences of the various races. Personally, I don’t care for hyphenated terms, e.g., “African-American,” or “Chinese-American,” I just happen not to think it’s genuine, particularly for those who have never even been to those parts of the world. Yet, if that’s what they prefer, I don’t mind accommodating their preference.***
Here is where we may tread a different path. (c: IMHO, as I have posted, the hyphening of American waters it down. I agree those who have never been to those continents really don’t need to be addressed that way. If everyone wants to be treated equally, why do we have special occasions for one particular race or group of people?
***Unfortunately, there are a few hate mongers out there who thrive upon racism — that’s their bread-and-butter, they feed off the people of their own race whom thay claim to be supporting/defending. In my opinion, those are the most worrisome racists of all.***
We are on the same path with this one (c: The sooner Jesse and AL get laryngitis, the better off people will be!!!
***My bottom line is this: call me “gringo,” call me “whitey,” call me “racist,” call me whatever you want….or don’t even call me, it makes no difference to me. I was raised better than that and I’m thankful for it.***
I was raised better than that as well, but it seems that the illegal aliens are demanding respect, but are short on giving it. I have no use for those terms and I am careful to make sure I use illegal alien instead of singling out one specific group of people. (c: We need to add don’t call me late for supper here too (c;
/\/\3|)ic 64,
Awwwwwww, I think Sparky is cute…..and a lot easier to type.
LOL @ Dolph….yeah it is huh (c;
Maybe instead of using the term Hispanics or Latinos in reference to out brothers and sisters south of the board, we should start using “wetbacks.” Tit for Tat!
$pÀ®|{¥ Are you sure??
Dolph (2:04)
Thank you for your kind sensitivity re: “White Only” shingle.
I believe it’s important to see comments from a diverse
group of writers here without having to worry about walking on
eggs, carefully avoiding the possibility of offending some group
or some bloggers.
Medic 64, I too am sick and tired of all the p.c. crap which has
devoured us all. Enough is enough. I attempt to be as honest
as I can without being rude or name calling. Some folk just
can’t take honesty.
Lafayette…see, others are concerned for your safety. You do
a fine job for us all. Thanks for sharing. BTW, I did catch some blue gills!
If we do that veteren2, that makes us no better than they are in that respect. 9c:
Batson,
I thought YOU knew better, and I see you did. Thanks, for the clarification. Late to the game…I hope never. Suited up, yes indeed, sir.
Oh, let’s not forget LOUD AND PROUD, too.
Gone Fishing, It is becoming too difficult to carry on a conversation without having to stutter around and be PC. I try not to call others names. However, I do call a spade a spade when it comes right down to it in person. I feel it is easy for the wrong impression to be conveyed in this typewritten world. This is why you will see me add smileys (c:
Dolph said: “There is also the small little matter, unless I have misread a few comments by contributors on here, that not all the regulars here are white. I think we need to be very careful not to hang out our ‘white only’ shingle too fast. We may leave out a few people who very much consider themselves part of this blog community and I do too.”
Last time I checked the sign said gringo. Gringo is a derogatory name for white person. It is the spanish white person bad word equivalent of them calling a black person the N word. It is unacceptable and I am sick of seeing this reverse racism directed towards whites every day that seems to go unchecked. SICK.
Here ya go Dolph, so you don’t feel left out (c:
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manassascityresident said on 16 Nov 2007 at 12:15 pm:
Patriot Temp - I’m happy to say that all screen doors are shut on my street…(for now, anyway!)
Since the SCREEN DOOR sign/signal was blown, what is being used in it’s place? Surely something is! (a broom by the door, a pulled down window shade in just one window)
I’m always careful. I’m would some might call a “smart chick”.
Then of course there’s always the “haters”
Thank you all for the concern. I will continue to be aware of my surroundings at ALL TIMES.
Gone Fishing,
I got an “incident” to report to you. I will wait until a later time for it. Glad to hear you finally caught something, and hope that cold’s gone by now.
American Heritage Dictionary
grin·go (grĭng’gō) Pronunciation Key
n. pl. grin·gos Offensive Slang
Used as a disparaging term for a foreigner in Latin America, especially an American or English person.
Word History: In Latin America the word gringo is an offensive term for a foreigner, particularly an American or English person. But the word existed in Spanish before this particular sense came into being. In fact, gringo may be an alteration of the word griego, the Spanish development of Latin Graecus, “Greek.” Griego first meant “Greek, Grecian,” as an adjective and “Greek, Greek language,” as a noun.
The saying “It’s Greek to me” exists in Spanish, as it does in English, and helps us understand why griego came to mean “unintelligible language” and perhaps, by further extension of this idea, “stranger, that is, one who speaks a foreign language.” The altered form gringo lost touch with Greek but has the senses “unintelligible language,” “foreigner, especially an English person,” and in Latin America, “North American or Britisher.” Its first recorded English use (1849) is in John Woodhouse Audubon’s Western Journal: “We were hooted and shouted at as we passed through, and called ‘Gringoes.’”
Veteran: I need no help for any rage issues that can’t be solved by our elected officials and law enforcement officers actually enforcing laws. The day the paddy wagon comes into town and rounds up every illegal alien regardless of their color, religion or sexual orientation will be the day that I stop being angry. The day that all people are treated fairly and not given preferential treatment over others because of the color of their skin is the day that I will be happy. If you say that I need ‘help’ because I am angry over these things then you are DEFINITELY part of the problem. Nothing you could ever say could also ‘goad’ me because i take nothing that you say seriously or believe any of your drivel.
Glad to hear you are vigilant while taking pictures Lafayette!!! Is there a way to bring those photos to the CBOS attention or have they seen them already?
Rob Smalls - Patriot Temp said on 16 Nov 2007 at 2:07 pm:
The only way to defeat racism is to take the emphasis off of race and place it onto individuals, instead of their respective ethnicities.
If this happened, the Al Sharptons and Jessie Jacksons would be out of a job and would have to go to work for once in their lives. They feed upon keeping racism or perceived racism alive because without them keeping it going they would be nobodys.
Rob Smalls - Patriot Temp on 16 Nov 2007 at 2:15 pm:
Just what this area needs — another blooming bank.
Mike’s diner closes - replaced with a bank.
Klines closes - replaced with a bank.
park’d, I hope you was able to see my earlier post on that very thought process. If the illegal aliens want respect they need to give it. By posting that sign in front of the store like that seems to slap everyone in the face here. I bet I couldn’t go stand in front of the same store and call or display a sign that said wetback to all of the Hispanic people that walk in!! I would be arrested.
Anonymous, you are right and this is why the more attention that is given to Al and Jesse, the more they will want. I wouldn’t want someone like that speaking for me.
/\/\3l)ic 64,
Oh yes. Those pictures not all, but many of them have been put up on the overhead at Citizens’ Time. Patty has also shown some too. I have given copies to the Clerk of PWCBOS, to pass along to all Supervisors, and I have given the originals to my Supervisor.
Lafayette, I was sure you probably had!! (c: I appreciate everyone’s time and effort for this!!
Lafayette,
I got your email about Klines, That is so sad! So many good memories:)
/\/\3l)ic 64,
I came across this youtube video and thought you might like it as you play with letters and numbers…hey, can you do redawn for me?
anyway, here is the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGKv0lE14HQ
redawn,
Thank you. The Patriot would be very proud of you. I hope the Patriot-Temp sees it. Keep up the good work.
Klines, so sad. Off to see Neil Young in about a half an hour, though at DAR
Lafayette,
Yes, the patriot-temp has been doing a good job….I have had some giggles
Enjoy the concert, Keep on Rockin’ in the Free World
Park’d,
My comment about the ‘white shingle’ had nothing at all to do with the term ‘gringo.’ Someone had made a comment about us here on the blog being white. I was reminding everyone that there are people here who aren’t and who are just as concerned about illegal immigration as anyone else. No admonitions, just a comment. I hope this clarifies my intent in commenting.
I wonder why they can’t provide an English translation like a lot of stores are doing?
Perhaps Racist?
“I’m sick of being discriminated against and I am willing to do whatever it takes to start to see results.”
You know the first thing I thought when I saw that sentence was, “How does it feel when the shoe is on the other foot?” Perhaps some good can come out of all of this yet, if folks take the reverse racism lesson to heart perhaps all of us, regardless of race, will be able to get along better and ignore the Al Sharptons and David Dukes of the world and relegate them to the irrelevancy that they so richly deserve. The only reason that the Hispanic lobby can get a rise out of us with the racism label is because we haven’t…and that “we” includes all races.
Park’d, you are aware it’s a basic tenet of certain political ideologies that the white male is responsible for all that is evil in the world?
Let me tell you, as a white male, it sure takes a lot of my time being responsible for all that is wrong in the world. I’m sure right now some poor child is starving in some 3rd world country because of something I’ve done. I’m not sure what it is or when I did it, but I’m sure I did something to cause that.
I think now I’ll go be responsible for the destruction of a few more acres of rainforest and enlarging the hole in the ozone layer. After that maybe I’ll go cause a foreclosure on a struggling family.
It’s not easy being a blue-eyed devil, but someone’s gotta do it.
Dennis -
They didn’t provide an English translation for that sign because if they had, their target audience wouldn’t have been able to read it anyway.
So if we all go to the furniture store and try and buy something and they make us show gringo papers it’s discrimination and we contact the Federal Trade Commission and the BBB and the ACLU (bet they pass on representing us) and see what shakes out.
Dave, would you really want to go there and purchase the trash that they are probably trying to foist on their own people at premium prices?
anonymous @ 7:45 pm:
While you’re out sowing the seeds of destruction in the name of blue-eyed devils the world over, make sure you leave the seat up, kill the last cup in the pot of coffee, unplug random alarm clocks and drive with your turn signal on full-time.
Happy haunting.
I never said I’d buy anything AWCheney. I would like to see if the ACLU would actually represent me.
Dave - yeah, they will, when hell freezes over!
Prejudice remain to exist when there is lack of knowledge when using words for better communication.
Prejudice will remain to exist when there is still ONE person that has insecurities.
Prejudice will remain to exist as long as as SOMEONE reacts to it.
Prejudice will remain to exist , NEXT…….
I don’t know Dave. I think if maybe you were a gay atheist, and Casa Furniture was the Boy Scouts of America, maybe you’d have a chance. Otherwise, you might have better luck staying dry while you pee in the wind.
Storm door check! Sound off!
Mr, temp-patriot
Sound off 1,2,3,4! On my daily and BORING route…all storm doors still open.
“drive with your turn signal on full-time”
While going 10MPH under the limit in the left lane, of course!
Anonymous said on 16 Nov 2007 at 4:58 pm “Since the SCREEN DOOR sign/signal was blown, what is being used in it’s place? Surely something is! (a broom by the door, a pulled down window shade in just one window)”
Keep your eyes open for a lockbox on the front door of houses that are not for sale. I believe this is one of the newer signals showing rooms for rent.
I have observered several houses in the Manassas area that have these lockboxes. One just happens to be up the street from me. There is a pretty steady flow of new/unknown cars visiting at night. Some stay there over night, some longer.
If that’s the case, Maureen, that would mean that there is one or more real estate agents or a real estate broker complicit in the “boarding houses.” Those lock boxes are not available for purchase or lease by just anyone. That should be enough to at least that person’s license pulled!
I was teaching a class one time, and someone used the word “Chapin”. They told me that it was a nickname for people from Guatemala. Hondurans they call “Catrachos”. The Argentine guy they call “Gaucho”. People from El Salvador have a nickname too, but I forgot what it was.
Then one lady said to me with a big smile, “You’re a gringo.”
They way they were using these terms it was clearly not derogatory. It’s like “shoe”. A shoe is a shoe. That’s what it is. A guy from Guatamala is a chapin.
El Guapo
Go to Dictionary.com and enter “gringo” for a definition search. 5 entries are returned. All are noted as pejorative, contemptuous or disparaging. Like you said. “That’s what it is.”
Lafayette, hope you enjoyed the concert! Still waiting for
your “incident” report for me.
Maureen,
The lock boxes without For Sale Signs are on the foreclosed properties. They just might squatters like the “Che Guavara” house next door to my mom. Starting taking down car description and tag# with times. That what it took to really get the ball rolling with that situation.
Gone Fishing,
Thank you concert was great. “Rockin’ In The Free World”!!
Ready? This is a “classic”.
From time to time you get the real “nut job” coming into the courthouse to cause trouble. Well, yesterday was one of those days. There was an elderly gentleman, very rude. He went to various offices in the courthouse, and would be very loud and demanding, and all the while wanting everyone’s name and supervisors name, etc. He came where I was yelling at the clerk demanding names and what not. He said I don’t want that name, she’ll just call the Sheriff on me. Blah, blah, blah, blah.
The Sheriff’s Office was to have have been shadowing the man from the minute he walked in the building, and this did NOT happen, according to several sources. Then finally the man leaves that office, and deputies are on the way. They were looking all over at that point for him. My business was done at that point, and I don’t know anymore.
You seem to be in the “know”. Perhaps, you’ve heard about this already?.
Do you think the invitation is open for the tour of the S.O.?
Funny story. Laf..but at the same time scary, if you think
about it for a few minutes. The guy could easily have been
there with the intentions of doing bodily harm to someone and
with all his vociferousness, I am astounded that, with all
the excess deputies Hill has on board, the man actually got
away from the courthouse without at least being questioned!
No, this is the first time I have heard this story, but believe me,
if anything comes of it, there will be NO publicity. The sheriff,
remember, does not like bad press.
Strange, something such as this incident coming on the heels of
Louis Dominguez pointing out to all of PWC the need for better
security at the courthouse. This goes to show that once some-
one has gained entry, anything can (and will) happen. It’s like a time bomb waiting to go off. Why can’t people understand
this?
I honestly believe the voters made a huge mistake, one that
we will have to live with for another four years, unfortunately.
BTW, keep up your excellent photo-journalism!
Gone Fishing,
Please, let me clarify. I left before the incident was wrapped up. I think they may have actually caught up to the old guy.
Our government doesn’t see this as an act of war?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srI3rAMCIDM
Okay, Lafayette…got it. If they did finally catch up with the
old guy,we’ll never know about it, will we? Maybe they
mobilized the golf carts to go after him.
redawn, here you go:
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After viewing some of the you tube videos, our illegal alien issues are tame compared to CA. They are actually fighting one another. I do not want to see this get to that point ever. That is not the right way to go about it IMHO. We can protest and pass resolutions and make them as uncomfortable as possible, but I do not want to see it escalate to that level of violence.
Some of the videos I have watched are racist. I do not condone calling them anything but what they are, illegal aliens.
http://www.youtube.com/v/LYxsM7W2F8g&rel=1
We need more cities like this in America!!!
Anonymous said on 16 Nov 2007 at 5:10 pm:
“If this happened, the Al Sharptons and Jessie Jacksons would be out of a job and would have to go to work for once in their lives. They feed upon keeping racism or perceived racism alive because without them keeping it going they would be nobodys.”
You nailed it!
Racism went from a social disease to a billion dollar “industry”.
/\/\3|)iç 64 said on 17 Nov 2007 at 2:42 pm:
Outstanding video! More and more people are standing up all across this nation to say “enough is enough”!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GA is taking a stand and doing something about illegal aliens!!
Illegal aliens are self-deporting from Georgia
Here is the bill they refer to in the video. I can guarantee 9500liberty will not endorse this!!!
SB529
VA can follow GA’s lead!!!
This video is why so many Americans are getting upset.
Illegal Aliens Show Their Gratitude
I helped out with some HTML so you don’t have to click back to here. The links should take you to a new window.
“I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve. ” - Isoroku Yamamoto
Indeed.
El Guapo,
Trust me, ‘Gringo’ is not a term of endearment. It sounds to me like you were being played.
AWESOME video!!
Immigration Gumballs
/\/\3|)iç 64,
Thank you
/\/\3|)iç 64 said on 17 Nov 2007 at 2:42 pm:
http://www.youtube.com/v/LYxsM7W2F8g&rel=1
We need more cities like this in America!!!
That guy in the video has said it all. What more can anyone say about illegal immigration. His couple of minutes before a city council and the speech he made is indicative of what the entire country is feeling. GOOD ON HIM!
AWCheney said on 17 Nov 2007 at 2:54 am:
If that’s the case, Maureen, that would mean that there is one or more real estate agents or a real estate broker complicit in the “boarding houses.” Those lock boxes are not available for purchase or lease by just anyone. That should be enough to at least that person’s license pulled!
Those real estate type lockboxes are available for sale at Lowe’s. Check out the locks near the tool section. They are located at the beginning of the lock isle. They may not be 100% the type of lock realtors use but they are close.
FYI: I made the post re the blown sign/signal for the SCREEN DOORS.
El Guapo said on 17 Nov 2007 at 5:44 am:
I was teaching a class one time, and someone used the word “Chapin”. They told me that it was a nickname for people from Guatemala. Hondurans they call “Catrachos”. The Argentine guy they call “Gaucho”. People from El Salvador have a nickname too, but I forgot what it was.
When I spent a tour in Nicaragua, the locals gave everyone an “ANIMAL” name. The Ambassador was call el RANA (the frog.) It was not used in a loving way.
El Guapo-Dolph said on 17 Nov 2007 at 4:06 pm:
El Guapo,
Trust me, ‘Gringo’ is not a term of endearment.
She is totally correct in this statement. I would much prefer to call myself “la linda” o “la muneca”(add~over the “n”. However, I just don’t feel that would be VERDAD. I can see by your name you think pretty highly of yourself.
Anon @ 6:40
The El Salvadorans also use ANIMAL(just simply animal), too.
I worked with many El Salvadorans in the 90’s. The men would often refer to one another as BURRO(donkey). That’s no term of endearment either.
IF anyone is out there and interested: right NOW showing on The History channel history of the KKK
redawn,
Just rolled by on my way back from Klines. Did you hear me?
Where’s the Patriot-Temp big Saturday night out-lol
OSD on Spotsylvania. Shut that door!
Lafayette,
I hope you tuned in and watched The History Channel. I have more of a understanding why people associate the WHITE people or ASSUME the white people are the blame for things of now and the past. I still have a PROBLEM with that but, understand the other side as in assuming someone can’t speak English or may be illegal, etc. ( another words, I see their argument… not that I couldn’t see it, and..NO, I am not becoming an apologist, just the fact that people want to judge, etc)
I have asked why it is ok for non white people to use the N word or such other words, as a example and the white people get the wrath when it is used so freely by all, but when a WHITE person does it, becomes the difference between night and day.
It still does not excuse any behavior. I am starting to really see that America, is a BABY nation and it becomes more apparent to me that we as a nation can only assume or be arrogant to think WE are the ones that will not see war on our turf, etc…or be intruded upon…. POINT IS WE WERE SEPT. 11TH AND WHAT HAVE WE DONE?
I am not expressing my true thoughts, It is so personal and I really am having trouble putting it into words…..
CORRECTION:
POINT IS WE SAW: PEARL HARBOR, SEPT. 11TH AND WHAT HAVE WE DONE?- WOULD THE ANSWER BE: NOTHING?- THAT IS ARROGANCE!!!!!
(sorry everyone, but not just words, emotional and trying to find out why)
They say THIRD time is a charm. I just cant out into words the way I feel and what I see and what I am learning.
When I said “I am not expressing my true thoughts, It is so personal and I really am having trouble putting it into words…..” I MEANT I AM AT A LOSS OF WORDS.The only thing I can type out is that there are so many layers or more layers than an onion and so many people want to focus in on this or that layer, but in the end nothing is getting solved because everyone may have the same goal but it will forever get lost in the fight of….and our government is lost……I am just heart broken…go ahead…beat me up, I really thought , I could do something and willing to work toward making a difference……God bless us all
After adiscussion with my husband over my loss of words, he brought this song to my attention and I feel it fits the situation:
Kid Rock~
Amen
(R.J. Ritchie)
© 2007 RJR Publishing
It’s another night in hell
Another child won’t live to tell
Can you imagine what it’s like to starve to death
And as we sit free and well
Another soldier has to yell
Tell my wife and children I love them in his last breath
C’mon now amen, amen, amen
Habitual offenders, scumbag lawyers with agendas
I’ll tell you sometimes people I don’t know what’s worse
Natural disasters or these wolves in sheep clothes pastors
Now damn it I’m scared to send my children to church
And how can we seek salvation when our nations race relations
Got me feeling guilty of being white
But faith in human nature, our creator and our savior, I’m no saint
But I believe in what is right
C’mon now amen, amen
I said amen, amen
The rest of the song:
C’mon now amen, amen
I said amen, amen
Stop pointing fingers and take some blame,
Pull your future away from the flame
Open up your mind and start to live
Stop short changing your neighbors
Living off hand outs and favors, and maybe
Give a little bit more than you got to give
Simplify, testify, identify, rectify
And if I get high stop being so uptight
It’s only human nature and I am not a stranger
So baby won’t you stay with me tonight
here is the site to listen to it for yourself:
http://www.kidrock.com/lyrics.php
redawn,
I’m sorry to say I missed the show. We’ve got company from Texas until early am. I will look for re-airing. I think I’ve seen some of this show on the History Channel before.
Kidrock, my wouldn’t Marcia N be so proud.
Lafayette,
Marcia, Marcia, Marcia….LOL….stop…..:) made me think about us calling her when we heard..”Cowboy Baby” LOL
Some good comments from the posting of article here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926670/posts
Yet again, another case of profiling being fine and dandy as long as the goal is accommodation, exclusive perks and priveleges.
If I waltzed my Gringa self in to buy some furniture have no doubt that Ms. Blanca would demand that I provide my Gringa papers.
John Edwards was right. There are indeed two Americas.
The sign basicaly reads ” We welcome the business of Spanish speaking illegal aliens”.
Bridget said on 18 Nov 2007 at 8:50 pm:
The sign basicaly reads ” We welcome the business of Spanish speaking illegal aliens”.
Well said Bridget. And it also reads, if you know what I mean, POR LA RAZA!
1) I kind of had to laugh at the sign. I’m glad to know I’m a “grin9o.” Haha.
2) I had read in one of the local papers that there is a new citizens group in the Vienna Woods area, started because of day laborers hanging out in the parking lot on Park and Cedar. The day laborers showed up in larger numbers and a couple violent crimes happened. Neighbors have to deal with overcrowded houses and more trash and all that stuff. I imagine soon some in Vienna will be arguing whether they need a day labor center and the Herndon type battle will start again.
3) The Post had a story about how Arlington is welcoming to immigrants. I admit, if I were an illegal, I’d head straight to Arlington. No questions asked for services, happily funded by rich liberals who never met a tax they didn’t want to pay. The implication of the article was that Arlington is wecloming to illegal immigrants, although they focused on how Arlington has many first and second generation children of immigrants mixed in. I’m second generation and I don’t consider myself anything but 100% American. “Immigrant” is not in my direct experience, except vicariously through some of my relatives.