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	<title>Comments on: Bob Marshall Takes Off The Gloves</title>
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		<title>By: Sandy Sanders</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/17/bob-marshall-takes-off-the-gloves/#comment-41423</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy Sanders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 04:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Del. Bob Marshall (who used to be MY delegate in Woodbridge when I lived there) is an extremely principled man who belieevs what he says and says whet he believes.  He has not changed a bit.  How many politicos would take on their Speaker?  Few if any.  Virginians should get behind him if he decides to run and we'll have a ball seeing a Marshall/Warner tilt.  No one has been able to attack his character.

Sandy Sanders</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Del. Bob Marshall (who used to be MY delegate in Woodbridge when I lived there) is an extremely principled man who belieevs what he says and says whet he believes.  He has not changed a bit.  How many politicos would take on their Speaker?  Few if any.  Virginians should get behind him if he decides to run and we&#8217;ll have a ball seeing a Marshall/Warner tilt.  No one has been able to attack his character.</p>
<p>Sandy Sanders</p>
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		<title>By: 750 Volts &#187; A Thanksgiving treat from Bob Marshall.</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/17/bob-marshall-takes-off-the-gloves/#comment-40864</link>
		<dc:creator>750 Volts &#187; A Thanksgiving treat from Bob Marshall.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/17/bob-marshall-takes-off-the-gloves/#comment-40864</guid>
		<description>[...] iconoclastic streak that few, if any, in the General Assembly can match. Notice the firebomb of a resolution Marshall took to the House Republican [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] iconoclastic streak that few, if any, in the General Assembly can match. Notice the firebomb of a resolution Marshall took to the House Republican [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/17/bob-marshall-takes-off-the-gloves/#comment-40604</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/17/bob-marshall-takes-off-the-gloves/#comment-40604</guid>
		<description>Bob Marshall has no chance at a leadership posistion.  The guys strongest trait is he sticks to his core posistions, but it is also his biggest fault.  He does not know comprimise and has sees no value in listening to other points of view.  He is now one of the senior legislators, and if Richmond Sunlight is correct he introduced to most bills last year and only had a 13% sucess rate.  The only one of the PW delgations lower was Frederick at 10%.  McQuigg, Puller and Colgan were the highest.  Seems like the link is, those three can work across the aisle.  Not following Marshall too closely, I would like someone to tell me on major piece of legislation he has passed since he has been in the House.  "In God We Trust" on school walls and no birth control at state supported college campuses dont count.  He gets nothing done and the other Republicans know that.  He would be a stumbling block. He couldn't even get chairmanship of his own immigration committee.  Not a bad man, but a lously legislator.  Rommelt had a better chance of winning against him than Marshall does at a leadership posistion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob Marshall has no chance at a leadership posistion.  The guys strongest trait is he sticks to his core posistions, but it is also his biggest fault.  He does not know comprimise and has sees no value in listening to other points of view.  He is now one of the senior legislators, and if Richmond Sunlight is correct he introduced to most bills last year and only had a 13% sucess rate.  The only one of the PW delgations lower was Frederick at 10%.  McQuigg, Puller and Colgan were the highest.  Seems like the link is, those three can work across the aisle.  Not following Marshall too closely, I would like someone to tell me on major piece of legislation he has passed since he has been in the House.  &#8220;In God We Trust&#8221; on school walls and no birth control at state supported college campuses dont count.  He gets nothing done and the other Republicans know that.  He would be a stumbling block. He couldn&#8217;t even get chairmanship of his own immigration committee.  Not a bad man, but a lously legislator.  Rommelt had a better chance of winning against him than Marshall does at a leadership posistion.</p>
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		<title>By: Krusty</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/17/bob-marshall-takes-off-the-gloves/#comment-40554</link>
		<dc:creator>Krusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/17/bob-marshall-takes-off-the-gloves/#comment-40554</guid>
		<description>Patty - 19 Nov  9:22 am  -  I must protest about your statement re Sweden being a Dr. K country.  You must have Sweden confused with Holland.  The Swedes are NOT afraid of going to the hospital (on the contrary, due to social medicine they patiently [pun intended] wait months, sometimes years, for non-acute doctors appointments and elective surgery.)  There's NO nationwide euthanasia.   Period!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty - 19 Nov  9:22 am  -  I must protest about your statement re Sweden being a Dr. K country.  You must have Sweden confused with Holland.  The Swedes are NOT afraid of going to the hospital (on the contrary, due to social medicine they patiently [pun intended] wait months, sometimes years, for non-acute doctors appointments and elective surgery.)  There&#8217;s NO nationwide euthanasia.   Period!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/17/bob-marshall-takes-off-the-gloves/#comment-40516</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/17/bob-marshall-takes-off-the-gloves/#comment-40516</guid>
		<description>Regardless of the issues, I must agree with Matt - 10:03...

Not necessarily "fancy," but the ability to communicate intelligibly in English is a skill that every elected official should possess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of the issues, I must agree with Matt - 10:03&#8230;</p>
<p>Not necessarily &#8220;fancy,&#8221; but the ability to communicate intelligibly in English is a skill that every elected official should possess.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymoustoo</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/17/bob-marshall-takes-off-the-gloves/#comment-40499</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymoustoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 01:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/17/bob-marshall-takes-off-the-gloves/#comment-40499</guid>
		<description>PWC policeman, I'm glad to find that I was given erroneous info about traffic direction at the local churches.

I'd like to hear your feelings about having to enforce our new resolution but I doubt that this blog is a place that you'd like to share!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PWC policeman, I&#8217;m glad to find that I was given erroneous info about traffic direction at the local churches.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to hear your feelings about having to enforce our new resolution but I doubt that this blog is a place that you&#8217;d like to share!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Wills</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/17/bob-marshall-takes-off-the-gloves/#comment-40496</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Wills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 01:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/17/bob-marshall-takes-off-the-gloves/#comment-40496</guid>
		<description>anon said on 18 Nov 2007 at 10:22 am: 
Marshall has no problem with taxes - as long as it is going to pay for his pet projects.

Proof - the adult day care program. HE benefitted, so it was a good idea and worthy tax. A “REAL” republican would question why the government and taxpayers are responsible for caring for Marshall’s family members.


anon must think like the Stewart, Stirrups and other "REAL" Republicans in PWC where they pass zoning amendments that protect Horses, Farm Tractors and Jackasses more then they do Humans.  If you are a Jackass you are allowed to build shelter within the set back lines on your property.  If you are disabled and a human tough too bad. All a human is allowed to have is a three foot ramp.  After all get rid of the old and those that need help for we are a county of Rich Republicans who only care about them selves.  Make sure that those who serve this county and get injured find some where else to live for we are too good for them in “Stewart ,I am better then anyone else’s county." Maybe you would like the "final solution" to take care of the elderly and sick and those who are not rich.  After all the Stewart’s and all those new immigrants to PWC have taken away the property rights of so many of those who lived here for decades and would like to be able to sell their property to take care of their needs  but only home owners are allowed to make all that tax free money aren't they anon... Maybe you will be lucky and die early in life so you do not have to go thru what the elderly do and struggle with in the final years of their lives.

anon it is not just republicans either who think like you and Stewart it happens in deomcratic governments as well.  In 1992 Baltimore county told me that my mother was too old to be hurt and disabled on the job!!!!  They like me a whole lot less the Stewart does.  I have learned over the years that when you deal with a jack ass you kick long and hard and you can get to their brains from their ass... they now teach her case in Law School and what it cost them in money has help make it possible for assisted living for her and that is a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anon said on 18 Nov 2007 at 10:22 am:<br />
Marshall has no problem with taxes - as long as it is going to pay for his pet projects.</p>
<p>Proof - the adult day care program. HE benefitted, so it was a good idea and worthy tax. A “REAL” republican would question why the government and taxpayers are responsible for caring for Marshall’s family members.</p>
<p>anon must think like the Stewart, Stirrups and other &#8220;REAL&#8221; Republicans in PWC where they pass zoning amendments that protect Horses, Farm Tractors and Jackasses more then they do Humans.  If you are a Jackass you are allowed to build shelter within the set back lines on your property.  If you are disabled and a human tough too bad. All a human is allowed to have is a three foot ramp.  After all get rid of the old and those that need help for we are a county of Rich Republicans who only care about them selves.  Make sure that those who serve this county and get injured find some where else to live for we are too good for them in “Stewart ,I am better then anyone else’s county.&#8221; Maybe you would like the &#8220;final solution&#8221; to take care of the elderly and sick and those who are not rich.  After all the Stewart’s and all those new immigrants to PWC have taken away the property rights of so many of those who lived here for decades and would like to be able to sell their property to take care of their needs  but only home owners are allowed to make all that tax free money aren&#8217;t they anon&#8230; Maybe you will be lucky and die early in life so you do not have to go thru what the elderly do and struggle with in the final years of their lives.</p>
<p>anon it is not just republicans either who think like you and Stewart it happens in deomcratic governments as well.  In 1992 Baltimore county told me that my mother was too old to be hurt and disabled on the job!!!!  They like me a whole lot less the Stewart does.  I have learned over the years that when you deal with a jack ass you kick long and hard and you can get to their brains from their ass&#8230; they now teach her case in Law School and what it cost them in money has help make it possible for assisted living for her and that is a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: PWC policeman</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/17/bob-marshall-takes-off-the-gloves/#comment-40495</link>
		<dc:creator>PWC policeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 00:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/17/bob-marshall-takes-off-the-gloves/#comment-40495</guid>
		<description>18 Nov 2007 5:47,

anonymoustoo,  

Dont make statements where you dont know the answer.  The police that you see directing traffic after church services are being paid directly by the church as an off duty job for the officer.  Tax payers are not paying them at that time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>18 Nov 2007 5:47,</p>
<p>anonymoustoo,  </p>
<p>Dont make statements where you dont know the answer.  The police that you see directing traffic after church services are being paid directly by the church as an off duty job for the officer.  Tax payers are not paying them at that time.</p>
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		<title>By: Billyboy</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/17/bob-marshall-takes-off-the-gloves/#comment-40438</link>
		<dc:creator>Billyboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/17/bob-marshall-takes-off-the-gloves/#comment-40438</guid>
		<description>legal2 said on 18 Nov 2007 at 3:48 pm: 
Great cop-out, Dolph.

Anony..too. You bet it does “extend to Hispanic neighbors” and they should be obeying the law, the one written on their hearts by God and the one made by those with authority (which also comes from God).


So does the Supreme Court of the United States of America also obtain its authority from God?

I am Pro-Life, I want  "In God We Trust" on money and "Under God" in the pledge, but I have my limts. Osama BinLaden believes God is on his side too. Don't use my God to make your point. 

I don't like it be Roe vs. Wade is the law of the land, not one which I believe God made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>legal2 said on 18 Nov 2007 at 3:48 pm:<br />
Great cop-out, Dolph.</p>
<p>Anony..too. You bet it does “extend to Hispanic neighbors” and they should be obeying the law, the one written on their hearts by God and the one made by those with authority (which also comes from God).</p>
<p>So does the Supreme Court of the United States of America also obtain its authority from God?</p>
<p>I am Pro-Life, I want  &#8220;In God We Trust&#8221; on money and &#8220;Under God&#8221; in the pledge, but I have my limts. Osama BinLaden believes God is on his side too. Don&#8217;t use my God to make your point. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like it be Roe vs. Wade is the law of the land, not one which I believe God made.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/17/bob-marshall-takes-off-the-gloves/#comment-40406</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/17/bob-marshall-takes-off-the-gloves/#comment-40406</guid>
		<description>That was a lot of bluster with little payoff at the end. After all of that he simply asks for a change in direction? Why not go for the throat of somebody?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a lot of bluster with little payoff at the end. After all of that he simply asks for a change in direction? Why not go for the throat of somebody?</p>
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		<title>By: Dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/17/bob-marshall-takes-off-the-gloves/#comment-40395</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/17/bob-marshall-takes-off-the-gloves/#comment-40395</guid>
		<description>Oh Patty, its ok to say my name.  Actually, read back.  You will see that I didn't bring this topic up.  It was hurled at me along with some silliness about 'my kind' and the anti-life agenda.  Let' be truthful now.  

If anyone says I have an 'anti-life agenda,' they had best explain what that means because it is an incredibly stupid expression to most of the world and is not self explanatory, especially since I have no agenda.  It appears it is just another example of thinly veiled name-calling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Patty, its ok to say my name.  Actually, read back.  You will see that I didn&#8217;t bring this topic up.  It was hurled at me along with some silliness about &#8216;my kind&#8217; and the anti-life agenda.  Let&#8217; be truthful now.  </p>
<p>If anyone says I have an &#8216;anti-life agenda,&#8217; they had best explain what that means because it is an incredibly stupid expression to most of the world and is not self explanatory, especially since I have no agenda.  It appears it is just another example of thinly veiled name-calling.</p>
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		<title>By: Patty</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/17/bob-marshall-takes-off-the-gloves/#comment-40391</link>
		<dc:creator>Patty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/17/bob-marshall-takes-off-the-gloves/#comment-40391</guid>
		<description>Krusty,

Unfortunately, the number of babies up for adoption in this country does not come close to the demand.  I know this personally.  My own doctor told me that I would have better success of adopting a baby overseas because there are too few babies available in this country due to abortion.  That was her words and she didn't proclaim herself as a "pro-life" doctor.  Those are the facts.

Also, when talking about abortion the discussion always turns to chasing other rabbits.  If you want to discuss each on its own fine but when talking about abortion, the fact is that an unborn child is killed.

Most common forms of contraception are ones that do not prevent implantation.  Also, IUD's are rarely used any more.  They have been deemed dangerous by many physicians.  One IUD maker was sued.

End of life issues are another topic.  I've had to deal with this scenario with my family, including my own son.  There is a big difference between using hospice which I totally agree with than a Doctor Kervorkian.  There is a big difference with helping people transit from this life and those who arbitrarily decide when to end a life.  For example, should people who are depressed be killed?  How about those who are paralyzed who can't take care of themselves?  What about people who have Down syndrome?  I think many may be surprised that hospice has wide support from Christians.  In Sweden the practice of terminating life is the Dr. K. version.  I've read articles of how older people are terrified of going to the hospital to get treated for minor ailments because they are afraid a doctor might decide it was time for them to die.  It's been a while since I've read those articles but you can probably Google and find them.

This whole thing started because a certain person wanted to know what "anti-life" is.  That is a fact.  Evidently, this person likes to jump in to fan the flames so to speak.  If you don't want a discussion about this, don't fan the flames.  Otherwise, you will get a discussion.  My initial comment was to affirm that Planned Parenthood does indeed get money from the Federal Government i.e. our tax dollars.  I was then asked for my opinion and I gave it.  I speak from my Christian beliefs.  I have to.  To do otherwise would betray my Christian beliefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Krusty,</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the number of babies up for adoption in this country does not come close to the demand.  I know this personally.  My own doctor told me that I would have better success of adopting a baby overseas because there are too few babies available in this country due to abortion.  That was her words and she didn&#8217;t proclaim herself as a &#8220;pro-life&#8221; doctor.  Those are the facts.</p>
<p>Also, when talking about abortion the discussion always turns to chasing other rabbits.  If you want to discuss each on its own fine but when talking about abortion, the fact is that an unborn child is killed.</p>
<p>Most common forms of contraception are ones that do not prevent implantation.  Also, IUD&#8217;s are rarely used any more.  They have been deemed dangerous by many physicians.  One IUD maker was sued.</p>
<p>End of life issues are another topic.  I&#8217;ve had to deal with this scenario with my family, including my own son.  There is a big difference between using hospice which I totally agree with than a Doctor Kervorkian.  There is a big difference with helping people transit from this life and those who arbitrarily decide when to end a life.  For example, should people who are depressed be killed?  How about those who are paralyzed who can&#8217;t take care of themselves?  What about people who have Down syndrome?  I think many may be surprised that hospice has wide support from Christians.  In Sweden the practice of terminating life is the Dr. K. version.  I&#8217;ve read articles of how older people are terrified of going to the hospital to get treated for minor ailments because they are afraid a doctor might decide it was time for them to die.  It&#8217;s been a while since I&#8217;ve read those articles but you can probably Google and find them.</p>
<p>This whole thing started because a certain person wanted to know what &#8220;anti-life&#8221; is.  That is a fact.  Evidently, this person likes to jump in to fan the flames so to speak.  If you don&#8217;t want a discussion about this, don&#8217;t fan the flames.  Otherwise, you will get a discussion.  My initial comment was to affirm that Planned Parenthood does indeed get money from the Federal Government i.e. our tax dollars.  I was then asked for my opinion and I gave it.  I speak from my Christian beliefs.  I have to.  To do otherwise would betray my Christian beliefs.</p>
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		<title>By: Dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/17/bob-marshall-takes-off-the-gloves/#comment-40356</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 04:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/17/bob-marshall-takes-off-the-gloves/#comment-40356</guid>
		<description>Greg,  

That's the rub.  There is a biological difference between the terms fertilization and conception.  Most modern contraception prevents implantation, not fertilization.  Thus, the bill in question would outlaw most modern contraception like some birth control pills, morning after pill,  and the IUD.

While you and I might not agree on abortion, I see this bill as an issue that goes way beyond that debate.  

I believe everyone would like to see less abortion.  Outlawing contraception is not the way reduce unwanted pregnancy.  

http://www.calright2life.org/difference.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the rub.  There is a biological difference between the terms fertilization and conception.  Most modern contraception prevents implantation, not fertilization.  Thus, the bill in question would outlaw most modern contraception like some birth control pills, morning after pill,  and the IUD.</p>
<p>While you and I might not agree on abortion, I see this bill as an issue that goes way beyond that debate.  </p>
<p>I believe everyone would like to see less abortion.  Outlawing contraception is not the way reduce unwanted pregnancy.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.calright2life.org/difference.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.calright2life.org/difference.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Greg L</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/17/bob-marshall-takes-off-the-gloves/#comment-40351</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 03:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/17/bob-marshall-takes-off-the-gloves/#comment-40351</guid>
		<description>Dolph,

From my perspective there's nothing that equates contraception -- preventing fertilization -- with abortion.  From a material standpoint (thanks, Matt, for pointing out that reference, I didn't know about Hitchens) there's a huge difference.  From a faith perspective, despite the statements by the leadership of one segment of the Christian faith which I don't ascribe to, I still haven't found anything that would make me feel morally compelled to condemn the practice.

To me these are very separate issues.  I would imagine that for most in Virginia, it's a separate issue for them as well.  I don't believe that ending abortion necessarily has anything to do with limiting contraception, although there are some that feel differently, and while I respect that perspective, it's not where I'm at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dolph,</p>
<p>From my perspective there&#8217;s nothing that equates contraception &#8212; preventing fertilization &#8212; with abortion.  From a material standpoint (thanks, Matt, for pointing out that reference, I didn&#8217;t know about Hitchens) there&#8217;s a huge difference.  From a faith perspective, despite the statements by the leadership of one segment of the Christian faith which I don&#8217;t ascribe to, I still haven&#8217;t found anything that would make me feel morally compelled to condemn the practice.</p>
<p>To me these are very separate issues.  I would imagine that for most in Virginia, it&#8217;s a separate issue for them as well.  I don&#8217;t believe that ending abortion necessarily has anything to do with limiting contraception, although there are some that feel differently, and while I respect that perspective, it&#8217;s not where I&#8217;m at.</p>
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		<title>By: Lafayette</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/17/bob-marshall-takes-off-the-gloves/#comment-40349</link>
		<dc:creator>Lafayette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 03:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Krusty said on 18 Nov 2007 at 10:28 pm: 
Many anti-abortion folks seem to care a lot more about the fetus than the end “product”. I say, put you money where your mouth is and adopt unplanned, maybe handicapped, children who “chose” parents not able or fit to care for them.

I will agree for a fourth time Krusty. Thank you for you well said comments above. I agree completely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Krusty said on 18 Nov 2007 at 10:28 pm:<br />
Many anti-abortion folks seem to care a lot more about the fetus than the end “product”. I say, put you money where your mouth is and adopt unplanned, maybe handicapped, children who “chose” parents not able or fit to care for them.</p>
<p>I will agree for a fourth time Krusty. Thank you for you well said comments above. I agree completely.</p>
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		<title>By: Krusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 03:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Legal2 at 9:44 -  So you never put your children in public school, THANK GOODNESS.  You sound like quite a snob.  

Many anti-abortion folks seem to care a lot more about the fetus than the end "product".   I say, put you money where your mouth is and adopt unplanned, maybe handicapped, children who "chose" parents not able or fit to care for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Legal2 at 9:44 -  So you never put your children in public school, THANK GOODNESS.  You sound like quite a snob.  </p>
<p>Many anti-abortion folks seem to care a lot more about the fetus than the end &#8220;product&#8221;.   I say, put you money where your mouth is and adopt unplanned, maybe handicapped, children who &#8220;chose&#8221; parents not able or fit to care for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 03:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg L,

Your point about abortion is identical to Christopher Hitchens view.

"But his greatest heresy from liberalism is one we hear least about. Hitchens opposes abortion on materialistic grounds: human life has to begin at some point, and there is no non-arbitrary way to determine that is begins at a point after conception but before birth."

http://www.claremont.org/publications/crb/id.759/article_detail.asp

http://www.hitchensweb.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg L,</p>
<p>Your point about abortion is identical to Christopher Hitchens view.</p>
<p>&#8220;But his greatest heresy from liberalism is one we hear least about. Hitchens opposes abortion on materialistic grounds: human life has to begin at some point, and there is no non-arbitrary way to determine that is begins at a point after conception but before birth.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.claremont.org/publications/crb/id.759/article_detail.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.claremont.org/publications/crb/id.759/article_detail.asp</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.hitchensweb.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.hitchensweb.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dolph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 03:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg L.,

Everyone is still tip-toeing around the real implications of what defining life beginning at fertilization would do to most modern forms of contraception.  

I do not debate abortion.  It is a deeply personal issue that I believe each person has to decide for themselves, within the current confines of the law.  My political beliefs are not necessarily my personal beliefs.  However, when it comes to legislators passing laws that outlaw contraception (were Roe to be overturned), then I have a huge problem.  

As for everyone agreeing to when life begins, that will never happen, any more than people will all agree on the age of the earth, creationism vs evolution, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg L.,</p>
<p>Everyone is still tip-toeing around the real implications of what defining life beginning at fertilization would do to most modern forms of contraception.  </p>
<p>I do not debate abortion.  It is a deeply personal issue that I believe each person has to decide for themselves, within the current confines of the law.  My political beliefs are not necessarily my personal beliefs.  However, when it comes to legislators passing laws that outlaw contraception (were Roe to be overturned), then I have a huge problem.  </p>
<p>As for everyone agreeing to when life begins, that will never happen, any more than people will all agree on the age of the earth, creationism vs evolution, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Lafayette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lafayette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 03:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>legal2,
Nuetral? I don't think nuetral is something there's much of this is a pretty passionate and personal matter. I'm a true Independent. I'm very liberal on somethings, and very conservative on others. I usually just have to pick my battles and causes to fight. Right to life/die issues are not one I care to touch. I've seen so many in my family die slow agonizing deaths with Alzhiemers and cancer. I hate to see suffering of the ill and elderly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>legal2,<br />
Nuetral? I don&#8217;t think nuetral is something there&#8217;s much of this is a pretty passionate and personal matter. I&#8217;m a true Independent. I&#8217;m very liberal on somethings, and very conservative on others. I usually just have to pick my battles and causes to fight. Right to life/die issues are not one I care to touch. I&#8217;ve seen so many in my family die slow agonizing deaths with Alzhiemers and cancer. I hate to see suffering of the ill and elderly.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 03:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob Marshall is an authentic buffoon, but I at least thought he could string a sentence together.

"Allowing government spending to increase at new record levels of spending without making road and transit improvements a priority, and instead providing for tax increases by appointed governmental agencies as provided in HB 3202"

Does Delegate Marshall think this is acceptable writing? Marshall ought to be writing at the level of Thomas Jefferson, not Jefferson D'Arcy!

If Mr. Marshall could express his thought clearly and vigorously on paper the statement would read: 

"Government spending increased to record levels. Roads and transit improvements were not made a priority, and appointed - not elected - government agencies were given authority to levy taxes."

The illiteracy doesn't end there. What self-respecting delegate would allow this sentence to be published under his name?

"Whereas The Republican Leadership makes policy decisions in a small closed group and in a secretive manner without benefit of wide Caucus input or knowledge and in late 2006 prepared a transportation bill which Caucus members were expected to accept without discussion or critical input, i.e. HB 3202, which bill placed the responsibility for increasing taxes on appointed officials selected by statute, and included a first time ever tax on services, a tax on home sales during a declining housing market, and enacted severe Abusive Driver Fee penalties; and which violated the principles of George Mason’s Declaration of Rights and Magna Charta (1215) that citizens “cannot be taxed or deprived of their property for public uses without their own consent, or that of their representatives so elected.”

That is all one sentence. If an English 101 student wrote this, she would fail.

A better statement would read:

"Whereas the Republican leadership makes policy decisions in secret, and without the benefit of Caucus wide input. For example, in late 2006 a transportation bill - which allowed appointed officials to increase taxes - was put to a vote without Caucus discussion. For the first ever, a tax on services, home sales, as well as severe Abusive Driver penalties were inflicted upon Virginians. The Bill violated the principles of George Mason's Declaration of Rights, the Declaration of Independence, and the Virginia Constitution."

It is humiliating that my delegate ought to be a member of a remedial English class, not the Virginia General Assembly.

Is anyone else concerned that Delegate Marshall - who recently realized he is a stalwart opponent of illegal immigration - has the same command of English as a first generation immigrant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob Marshall is an authentic buffoon, but I at least thought he could string a sentence together.</p>
<p>&#8220;Allowing government spending to increase at new record levels of spending without making road and transit improvements a priority, and instead providing for tax increases by appointed governmental agencies as provided in HB 3202&#8243;</p>
<p>Does Delegate Marshall think this is acceptable writing? Marshall ought to be writing at the level of Thomas Jefferson, not Jefferson D&#8217;Arcy!</p>
<p>If Mr. Marshall could express his thought clearly and vigorously on paper the statement would read: </p>
<p>&#8220;Government spending increased to record levels. Roads and transit improvements were not made a priority, and appointed - not elected - government agencies were given authority to levy taxes.&#8221;</p>
<p>The illiteracy doesn&#8217;t end there. What self-respecting delegate would allow this sentence to be published under his name?</p>
<p>&#8220;Whereas The Republican Leadership makes policy decisions in a small closed group and in a secretive manner without benefit of wide Caucus input or knowledge and in late 2006 prepared a transportation bill which Caucus members were expected to accept without discussion or critical input, i.e. HB 3202, which bill placed the responsibility for increasing taxes on appointed officials selected by statute, and included a first time ever tax on services, a tax on home sales during a declining housing market, and enacted severe Abusive Driver Fee penalties; and which violated the principles of George Mason’s Declaration of Rights and Magna Charta (1215) that citizens “cannot be taxed or deprived of their property for public uses without their own consent, or that of their representatives so elected.”</p>
<p>That is all one sentence. If an English 101 student wrote this, she would fail.</p>
<p>A better statement would read:</p>
<p>&#8220;Whereas the Republican leadership makes policy decisions in secret, and without the benefit of Caucus wide input. For example, in late 2006 a transportation bill - which allowed appointed officials to increase taxes - was put to a vote without Caucus discussion. For the first ever, a tax on services, home sales, as well as severe Abusive Driver penalties were inflicted upon Virginians. The Bill violated the principles of George Mason&#8217;s Declaration of Rights, the Declaration of Independence, and the Virginia Constitution.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is humiliating that my delegate ought to be a member of a remedial English class, not the Virginia General Assembly.</p>
<p>Is anyone else concerned that Delegate Marshall - who recently realized he is a stalwart opponent of illegal immigration - has the same command of English as a first generation immigrant?</p>
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