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	<title>Comments on: Child Safety Or Convenience For Illegal Aliens?</title>
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		<title>By: ateacher</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41802</link>
		<dc:creator>ateacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 03:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41802</guid>
		<description>I worked for years for the Head Start program that encouraged/required parental involvement.  Parents however were required to undergo background checks and TB checks before they were ever allowed to enter the classroom.  In the reality of every day where I work, anyone parent can enter the classroom, we have an open door system. Yes I supervise, but health checks are not required of the visitors.  It's not to say we send students off with strange adults.  However the mentor pgrm btwn my school and high school students does not require, as far as I know, background checks of the teen mentors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked for years for the Head Start program that encouraged/required parental involvement.  Parents however were required to undergo background checks and TB checks before they were ever allowed to enter the classroom.  In the reality of every day where I work, anyone parent can enter the classroom, we have an open door system. Yes I supervise, but health checks are not required of the visitors.  It&#8217;s not to say we send students off with strange adults.  However the mentor pgrm btwn my school and high school students does not require, as far as I know, background checks of the teen mentors.</p>
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		<title>By: MP Resident</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41728</link>
		<dc:creator>MP Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41728</guid>
		<description>The State Deparment has an informative page about renouncing your US citizenship:

http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_776.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The State Deparment has an informative page about renouncing your US citizenship:</p>
<p><a href="http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_776.html" rel="nofollow">http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_776.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: MP Resident</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41727</link>
		<dc:creator>MP Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41727</guid>
		<description>"you have been rude and lacking in any reasonable argument in the debate, choosing only to play the “racist” card on every occasion"

Which is precisely why I suggest that his posts be left to stand as they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;you have been rude and lacking in any reasonable argument in the debate, choosing only to play the “racist” card on every occasion&#8221;</p>
<p>Which is precisely why I suggest that his posts be left to stand as they are.</p>
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		<title>By: /\/\3&#124;)iç 64</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41662</link>
		<dc:creator>/\/\3&#124;)iç 64</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41662</guid>
		<description>Seems to me that we all need to go to Canada, renounce our US citizenship, sneak back across the border to become illegal aliens and take advantage of programs we would otherwise not be entitled to.  I have an Expedition that I can run between here and the border.  It seats 7 additional besides myself (safely),  how many want to sign up for the first trip?  I can put a trailer on the back to haul extra if the requests are there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me that we all need to go to Canada, renounce our US citizenship, sneak back across the border to become illegal aliens and take advantage of programs we would otherwise not be entitled to.  I have an Expedition that I can run between here and the border.  It seats 7 additional besides myself (safely),  how many want to sign up for the first trip?  I can put a trailer on the back to haul extra if the requests are there.</p>
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		<title>By: /\/\3&#124;)iç 64</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41661</link>
		<dc:creator>/\/\3&#124;)iç 64</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41661</guid>
		<description>UnMasmexican,

You are so wrong!!!  This has NOTHING, I repeat, NOTHING to do with the Latino culture or racism or any other card you wish t play!!!  The issue at hand, and I really wish those like you would see it, is LEGAL status.  NOTHING MORE!!!!!  WHy is it so hard for people coming to America to assimilate??  I am not saying loose your nation culture or heritage, not at all, many are just asking, when in America do as Americans!  There is nothing wrong with celebrating who you are, go for it, but when you are in public, speak the language.  When you go to vote, speak the language.  When you need services, be able to read the language.

You are like so many that have turned this issue into a racial one.  I, like many on the blog from what I have read, have NO issue with LEGAL immigration and following the law!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UnMasmexican,</p>
<p>You are so wrong!!!  This has NOTHING, I repeat, NOTHING to do with the Latino culture or racism or any other card you wish t play!!!  The issue at hand, and I really wish those like you would see it, is LEGAL status.  NOTHING MORE!!!!!  WHy is it so hard for people coming to America to assimilate??  I am not saying loose your nation culture or heritage, not at all, many are just asking, when in America do as Americans!  There is nothing wrong with celebrating who you are, go for it, but when you are in public, speak the language.  When you go to vote, speak the language.  When you need services, be able to read the language.</p>
<p>You are like so many that have turned this issue into a racial one.  I, like many on the blog from what I have read, have NO issue with LEGAL immigration and following the law!!</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41649</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41649</guid>
		<description>This is great and I hope it progresses to the 4 year colleges as well.  So when my kids are ready to attend Duke or Chapel Hill, I'll just let them move illegally to NC and my wife and I won't have to fork over the dough for out of state tuition.  

Maybe we should start a movement that we should all become illegal since the benefits seem to be growing and growing (can we all move to Mexico and then sneak back over the border?).  I could save on taxes, run out on my mortgage, not show a real ID at the schools, drive without a driver's license (no more worrying about points) and get in-state tuition at the college of my choice.  And I'm sure by next week, those in power will have figured out a way to give me even more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great and I hope it progresses to the 4 year colleges as well.  So when my kids are ready to attend Duke or Chapel Hill, I&#8217;ll just let them move illegally to NC and my wife and I won&#8217;t have to fork over the dough for out of state tuition.  </p>
<p>Maybe we should start a movement that we should all become illegal since the benefits seem to be growing and growing (can we all move to Mexico and then sneak back over the border?).  I could save on taxes, run out on my mortgage, not show a real ID at the schools, drive without a driver&#8217;s license (no more worrying about points) and get in-state tuition at the college of my choice.  And I&#8217;m sure by next week, those in power will have figured out a way to give me even more.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41647</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41647</guid>
		<description>Unrelated story, North Carolina community colleges being forced to accept illegal aliens:

Raleigh — North Carolina community colleges must accept illegal immigrants as students if they meet admission guidelines, according to a new policy.

Previously, colleges had the option of rejecting illegal immigrants, even if they were at least 18 and had graduated from high school.

However, a lawyer for the North Carolina Community College System recently issued a memo saying that all 58 campuses needed to fall into line with a 1997 opinion by then-Attorney General Mike Easley.

Wake Technical Community College was among the campuses that previously required students to prove legal residency.

"We will abide by the rules of the State Board of Community Colleges," Wake Tech President Stephen Scott said.

More than half of the community colleges statewide already allowed undocumented immigrants to enroll, and state officials estimated that about 340 such students are attending class.

Students without documentation must pay out-of-state tuition – about $7,400 for a full class-load at Wake Tech – which officials said would likely discourage many of them from applying.

The higher fees also would generate a $2,000 profit per illegal immigrant student for the community colleges, officials said.

But politicians statewide ridiculed the new policy.

“This is a stupid policy," U.S. Rep. Sue Myrick, R-N.C., of Charlotte, said in a statement. "Our community colleges are supposed to educate and train American citizens to enter the work force. But North Carolina wants to educate and train illegal aliens so they can directly compete against American citizens for the same jobs? That is just plain wrong. There is no common sense anymore."

Myrick, a Charlotte Republican, has been deeply involved in the immigration debate in Washington, D.C.

State Sen. Richard Stevens, R-Wake, said he and other legislators would likely push for a change in state law if the policy isn't reversed before the next session of the General Assembly in May.

"The key word is 'illegal.' It's against the law, so you should reward someone for breaking the law? Absolutely not," Stevens said.

Officials with the Latino advocacy group El Pueblo said the new policy provides an opportunity to a younger generation that has much to contribute to U.S. society.

"They would like to have an opportunity to continue their education," said Marisol Jimenez-McGee, advocacy director for El Pueblo. "They came here when they were very young – brought here by the parents – and have since been growing up in North Carolina, alongside every other North Carolina student."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unrelated story, North Carolina community colleges being forced to accept illegal aliens:</p>
<p>Raleigh — North Carolina community colleges must accept illegal immigrants as students if they meet admission guidelines, according to a new policy.</p>
<p>Previously, colleges had the option of rejecting illegal immigrants, even if they were at least 18 and had graduated from high school.</p>
<p>However, a lawyer for the North Carolina Community College System recently issued a memo saying that all 58 campuses needed to fall into line with a 1997 opinion by then-Attorney General Mike Easley.</p>
<p>Wake Technical Community College was among the campuses that previously required students to prove legal residency.</p>
<p>&#8220;We will abide by the rules of the State Board of Community Colleges,&#8221; Wake Tech President Stephen Scott said.</p>
<p>More than half of the community colleges statewide already allowed undocumented immigrants to enroll, and state officials estimated that about 340 such students are attending class.</p>
<p>Students without documentation must pay out-of-state tuition – about $7,400 for a full class-load at Wake Tech – which officials said would likely discourage many of them from applying.</p>
<p>The higher fees also would generate a $2,000 profit per illegal immigrant student for the community colleges, officials said.</p>
<p>But politicians statewide ridiculed the new policy.</p>
<p>“This is a stupid policy,&#8221; U.S. Rep. Sue Myrick, R-N.C., of Charlotte, said in a statement. &#8220;Our community colleges are supposed to educate and train American citizens to enter the work force. But North Carolina wants to educate and train illegal aliens so they can directly compete against American citizens for the same jobs? That is just plain wrong. There is no common sense anymore.&#8221;</p>
<p>Myrick, a Charlotte Republican, has been deeply involved in the immigration debate in Washington, D.C.</p>
<p>State Sen. Richard Stevens, R-Wake, said he and other legislators would likely push for a change in state law if the policy isn&#8217;t reversed before the next session of the General Assembly in May.</p>
<p>&#8220;The key word is &#8216;illegal.&#8217; It&#8217;s against the law, so you should reward someone for breaking the law? Absolutely not,&#8221; Stevens said.</p>
<p>Officials with the Latino advocacy group El Pueblo said the new policy provides an opportunity to a younger generation that has much to contribute to U.S. society.</p>
<p>&#8220;They would like to have an opportunity to continue their education,&#8221; said Marisol Jimenez-McGee, advocacy director for El Pueblo. &#8220;They came here when they were very young – brought here by the parents – and have since been growing up in North Carolina, alongside every other North Carolina student.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41644</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41644</guid>
		<description>UnMasmexican said on 28 Nov 2007 at 6:01 pm: 
"Demanding IDs is nothing more than blatant racism or, worse, an attempt to keep recent immigrants out of the schools to better “assimilate” our children."

Actually UnMasmexican, the most racist person I've noticed on this blog happens to be you.  You take a policy that has existed for many years, certainly as long as MY children were in school in PWC (they graduated in 2005) that is merely being tweaked and call it racist.  It would seem that you consider anyone that doesn't look like you, speak like you, or agree with you to be racist.  Isn't that in part how it's defined? (Note: Not looking for an answer to that.)  

On various occasions you have expressed an almost misogynistic contempt for women: you have been rude and lacking in any reasonable argument in the debate, choosing only to play the "racist" card on every occasion;  you have often been crude and insulting, showing an inordinate interest in our young daughters; and, in general, you have shown yourself to be a generally disagreeable person who, in all probability, embarrasses those on your side of the issue who attempt to debate with reason and facts with enough respect for other's opinions to address them with civility (I count Leila, Lovisa, and even Claire among those).  You should keep it up...I strongly suspect that you are becoming the poster boy for the extremists (who do not, btw, speak for me or the vast majority on our side of the issue) on the other side of the issue who are pointing to you (and those like you) as evidence that only extreme measures will ultimately bring this to a conclusion (isolationism).  And you wonder why you aren't winning any friends or influencing people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UnMasmexican said on 28 Nov 2007 at 6:01 pm:<br />
&#8220;Demanding IDs is nothing more than blatant racism or, worse, an attempt to keep recent immigrants out of the schools to better “assimilate” our children.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually UnMasmexican, the most racist person I&#8217;ve noticed on this blog happens to be you.  You take a policy that has existed for many years, certainly as long as MY children were in school in PWC (they graduated in 2005) that is merely being tweaked and call it racist.  It would seem that you consider anyone that doesn&#8217;t look like you, speak like you, or agree with you to be racist.  Isn&#8217;t that in part how it&#8217;s defined? (Note: Not looking for an answer to that.)  </p>
<p>On various occasions you have expressed an almost misogynistic contempt for women: you have been rude and lacking in any reasonable argument in the debate, choosing only to play the &#8220;racist&#8221; card on every occasion;  you have often been crude and insulting, showing an inordinate interest in our young daughters; and, in general, you have shown yourself to be a generally disagreeable person who, in all probability, embarrasses those on your side of the issue who attempt to debate with reason and facts with enough respect for other&#8217;s opinions to address them with civility (I count Leila, Lovisa, and even Claire among those).  You should keep it up&#8230;I strongly suspect that you are becoming the poster boy for the extremists (who do not, btw, speak for me or the vast majority on our side of the issue) on the other side of the issue who are pointing to you (and those like you) as evidence that only extreme measures will ultimately bring this to a conclusion (isolationism).  And you wonder why you aren&#8217;t winning any friends or influencing people.</p>
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		<title>By: Dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41636</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 04:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41636</guid>
		<description>CJC,

I am surprised Tandredo didn't have a fit.  Why would that be done?  Could it have been an accident?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CJC,</p>
<p>I am surprised Tandredo didn&#8217;t have a fit.  Why would that be done?  Could it have been an accident?</p>
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		<title>By: CJC</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41615</link>
		<dc:creator>CJC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41615</guid>
		<description>Sorry this is off topic, but I just talked to a relative in Denver and she said that last night the local tv network (ABC or CBS??) played the Peanuts Charlie Brown Christmas in Spanish.  It was not on a Spanish channel, it was on one of the main stations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry this is off topic, but I just talked to a relative in Denver and she said that last night the local tv network (ABC or CBS??) played the Peanuts Charlie Brown Christmas in Spanish.  It was not on a Spanish channel, it was on one of the main stations.</p>
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		<title>By: Dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41603</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41603</guid>
		<description>UnmaskedMexican,

The ID system has nothing to do with immigration.  It has everything to do with security of the kids and the staff.  Prince William County needs to know who is in its schools at all times.  

The ID system is not new.  New software will improve the old system that has been used for many years.

Don't cry racism where none exists.  If I were you and being selective, at least you could worry about all the Latino students who might be harmed by a terrorist, child abductor, non-custodial parent, wack job parent, the list of dangers go on.  Me?  I am concerned over all students and staff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UnmaskedMexican,</p>
<p>The ID system has nothing to do with immigration.  It has everything to do with security of the kids and the staff.  Prince William County needs to know who is in its schools at all times.  </p>
<p>The ID system is not new.  New software will improve the old system that has been used for many years.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t cry racism where none exists.  If I were you and being selective, at least you could worry about all the Latino students who might be harmed by a terrorist, child abductor, non-custodial parent, wack job parent, the list of dangers go on.  Me?  I am concerned over all students and staff.</p>
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		<title>By: redawn</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41598</link>
		<dc:creator>redawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41598</guid>
		<description>UnMasmexican.

I disagree for several reasons.

First: there was a 22 yr old that fraudulently enrolled at one of our high schools. 
If a student can do this,  then who can come into to our school on a WHIM  with no ID and the possibilities are endless. 
This is for the safety of the STAFF and CHILDREN



here is the link : 

http://www.manassasjm.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=MJM%2FMGArticle%2FWPN_BasicArticle&#38;c=MGArticle&#38;cid=1173353184678&#38;path=

Man, 22, charged with attending high school

A 22-year-old Woodbridge man was charged with fraudulently enrolling at Freedom High School, 15201 Neabsco Mills Road in Woodbridge, around 9 a.m. Thursday, said Officer Erika Hernandez, Prince William police spokeswoman.

Gerson Gamaliel Flores Alfaro, of 14784 Tamarack Place, was charged with possession of marijuana on school property, forging a public document and having a false birth certificate, Hernandez said.

Police said a school resource officer was investigating an incident in which a student had drugs on school property, and found out that the student had fraudulently enrolled in school, Hernandez said.

Alfaro was held without bond and has a Dec. 19 court date.

- Elisa Glushefski</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UnMasmexican.</p>
<p>I disagree for several reasons.</p>
<p>First: there was a 22 yr old that fraudulently enrolled at one of our high schools.<br />
If a student can do this,  then who can come into to our school on a WHIM  with no ID and the possibilities are endless.<br />
This is for the safety of the STAFF and CHILDREN</p>
<p>here is the link : </p>
<p><a href="http://www.manassasjm.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=MJM%2FMGArticle%2FWPN_BasicArticle&amp;c=MGArticle&amp;cid=1173353184678&amp;path=" rel="nofollow">http://www.manassasjm.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=MJM%2FMGArticle%2FWPN_BasicArticle&amp;c=MGArticle&amp;cid=1173353184678&amp;path=</a></p>
<p>Man, 22, charged with attending high school</p>
<p>A 22-year-old Woodbridge man was charged with fraudulently enrolling at Freedom High School, 15201 Neabsco Mills Road in Woodbridge, around 9 a.m. Thursday, said Officer Erika Hernandez, Prince William police spokeswoman.</p>
<p>Gerson Gamaliel Flores Alfaro, of 14784 Tamarack Place, was charged with possession of marijuana on school property, forging a public document and having a false birth certificate, Hernandez said.</p>
<p>Police said a school resource officer was investigating an incident in which a student had drugs on school property, and found out that the student had fraudulently enrolled in school, Hernandez said.</p>
<p>Alfaro was held without bond and has a Dec. 19 court date.</p>
<p>- Elisa Glushefski</p>
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		<title>By: MP Resident</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41592</link>
		<dc:creator>MP Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41592</guid>
		<description>I think your posts should be left to stand as they are, "UnMasmexican".</description>
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		<title>By: UnMasmexican</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41583</link>
		<dc:creator>UnMasmexican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41583</guid>
		<description>Demanding IDs is nothing more than blatant racism or, worse, an attempt to keep recent immigrants out of the schools to better "assimilate" our children. Or perhaps to keep the parents unaware of the weak ESL services many students get. 

Further proof that many of the people in PWC would rather have our children become the American example of Australia's Lost Generation than truly welcome and accept the emerging Latino culture. 

Viva la raza!!

(Prove you are not scared by the truth of my views by not deleting my posts!!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Demanding IDs is nothing more than blatant racism or, worse, an attempt to keep recent immigrants out of the schools to better &#8220;assimilate&#8221; our children. Or perhaps to keep the parents unaware of the weak ESL services many students get. </p>
<p>Further proof that many of the people in PWC would rather have our children become the American example of Australia&#8217;s Lost Generation than truly welcome and accept the emerging Latino culture. </p>
<p>Viva la raza!!</p>
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		<title>By: me-n-u</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41562</link>
		<dc:creator>me-n-u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41562</guid>
		<description>The illegal’s use there martricular (sp?) I.D. cards to pick up their kids. Right now hey are allowed to use these I.D.’s then are able to DRIVE away. Last I heard, you need a drivers license to drive a car. Will these I.D.’s be acceptable forms of I.D. at the schools?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The illegal’s use there martricular (sp?) I.D. cards to pick up their kids. Right now hey are allowed to use these I.D.’s then are able to DRIVE away. Last I heard, you need a drivers license to drive a car. Will these I.D.’s be acceptable forms of I.D. at the schools?</p>
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		<title>By: Advocator</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41559</link>
		<dc:creator>Advocator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41559</guid>
		<description>Just pulling your leg, PW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just pulling your leg, PW.</p>
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		<title>By: Turn PW Blue</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41553</link>
		<dc:creator>Turn PW Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41553</guid>
		<description>Advocator:

That's about as far from the truth as I could imagine.  I have yet to be in a Prince William County School that was not open to parent observation.  At my daughter's school there are over 30 parents a day in the classrooms, most as volunteers, some as observers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Advocator:</p>
<p>That&#8217;s about as far from the truth as I could imagine.  I have yet to be in a Prince William County School that was not open to parent observation.  At my daughter&#8217;s school there are over 30 parents a day in the classrooms, most as volunteers, some as observers.</p>
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		<title>By: 999</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41535</link>
		<dc:creator>999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41535</guid>
		<description>Turn PW Blue said on 28 Nov 2007 at 1:29 pm: 
The school lunch program is a Federal program (and Federally mandated). So, while the Supreme Court doesn’t say we have to feed them, the Federal government does.

Okay,  but how is the determination made on who gets the free meals, who gets the subsidized ones?  I assume that it is based on the salary of the parents but what is an illegal going to show for income when the work off of the books etc.?  Still mystified as to why free and subsidized meals are offered.  If you don't want to buy your lunch, bring it from home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turn PW Blue said on 28 Nov 2007 at 1:29 pm:<br />
The school lunch program is a Federal program (and Federally mandated). So, while the Supreme Court doesn’t say we have to feed them, the Federal government does.</p>
<p>Okay,  but how is the determination made on who gets the free meals, who gets the subsidized ones?  I assume that it is based on the salary of the parents but what is an illegal going to show for income when the work off of the books etc.?  Still mystified as to why free and subsidized meals are offered.  If you don&#8217;t want to buy your lunch, bring it from home.</p>
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		<title>By: Advocator</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41534</link>
		<dc:creator>Advocator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41534</guid>
		<description>The real reason for the ID check is to place one more obstacle on parents going into a school to observe it.  The administrators just don't want them to know how bad it really its.

If administrators were really interested in school security, they would obtain concealed carry permits, and carry guns, and require teachers to carry guns, also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real reason for the ID check is to place one more obstacle on parents going into a school to observe it.  The administrators just don&#8217;t want them to know how bad it really its.</p>
<p>If administrators were really interested in school security, they would obtain concealed carry permits, and carry guns, and require teachers to carry guns, also.</p>
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		<title>By: Turn PW Blue</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41526</link>
		<dc:creator>Turn PW Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/27/child-safety-or-convenience-for-illegal-aliens/#comment-41526</guid>
		<description>JL:

How would you propose paying for these biometric units?  It's a great idea, but someone has to pick up the tab.

Medic64:
The school lunch program is a Federal program (and Federally mandated).  So, while the Supreme Court doesn't say we have to feed them, the Federal government does.

In terms of self-deportation, it may scare some, but probably not many.  If they weren't scared to register their children, they're not likely to be scared to pick them up at school.  My guess is that most illegals are not regular school volunteers, so they actually wouldn't need to use the system very often and even when they did, nothing in the PWCS policy suggests that the schools will be reporting anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JL:</p>
<p>How would you propose paying for these biometric units?  It&#8217;s a great idea, but someone has to pick up the tab.</p>
<p>Medic64:<br />
The school lunch program is a Federal program (and Federally mandated).  So, while the Supreme Court doesn&#8217;t say we have to feed them, the Federal government does.</p>
<p>In terms of self-deportation, it may scare some, but probably not many.  If they weren&#8217;t scared to register their children, they&#8217;re not likely to be scared to pick them up at school.  My guess is that most illegals are not regular school volunteers, so they actually wouldn&#8217;t need to use the system very often and even when they did, nothing in the PWCS policy suggests that the schools will be reporting anyone.</p>
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