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	<title>Comments on: Frederick: Let&#8217;s See If They Meant It</title>
	<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/</link>
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		<title>By: One Voice</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41756</link>
		<dc:creator>One Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41756</guid>
		<description>PWC assumed that responsibility and it has flourished until now.  In July 2007, PWC added a whole new Agency called TRANSPORTATION.  The costs are unbelievable.  I guess you missed this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PWC assumed that responsibility and it has flourished until now.  In July 2007, PWC added a whole new Agency called TRANSPORTATION.  The costs are unbelievable.  I guess you missed this.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41717</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41717</guid>
		<description>One Voice said on 28 Nov 2007 at 6:16 pm: 
Can we have a “see if they meant it” for PWC Supervisors. The paper already reports that the county will have to stop building roads in 2011 or 2012.

I thought VDOT was responsible for building roads?   My mistake...i guess!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One Voice said on 28 Nov 2007 at 6:16 pm:<br />
Can we have a “see if they meant it” for PWC Supervisors. The paper already reports that the county will have to stop building roads in 2011 or 2012.</p>
<p>I thought VDOT was responsible for building roads?   My mistake&#8230;i guess!</p>
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		<title>By: 999</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41716</link>
		<dc:creator>999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41716</guid>
		<description>Billyboy said on 28 Nov 2007 at 9:39 pm: 
The State needs to pursue compensation from the Federal Government for the issues which Federal policies create. The State should not attempt to punish localities for failures on the Federal level.

Never going to happen (State pursuing or Federal Government paying.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Billyboy said on 28 Nov 2007 at 9:39 pm:<br />
The State needs to pursue compensation from the Federal Government for the issues which Federal policies create. The State should not attempt to punish localities for failures on the Federal level.</p>
<p>Never going to happen (State pursuing or Federal Government paying.)</p>
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		<title>By: 999</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41715</link>
		<dc:creator>999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41715</guid>
		<description>Dolph said on 29 Nov 2007 at 10:04 am: 
I guess people will show interest when it takes 45 minutes to get from Giant at Westgate to Old Town Manassas.

What's five more minutes? grin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dolph said on 29 Nov 2007 at 10:04 am:<br />
I guess people will show interest when it takes 45 minutes to get from Giant at Westgate to Old Town Manassas.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s five more minutes? grin</p>
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		<title>By: One Voice</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41691</link>
		<dc:creator>One Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41691</guid>
		<description>Or when the immigration promises aren't kept.....

This is really a beautiful comment; feel used anyone?

"I don't want to be known for only one thing," Stewart said after the election. "I still don't understand why [immigration] became such a huge issue. I'd like to figure that out, so I can replicate it." 

Today's Post.  Why this article didn't make this mornings opening thread is beyond me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or when the immigration promises aren&#8217;t kept&#8230;..</p>
<p>This is really a beautiful comment; feel used anyone?</p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t want to be known for only one thing,&#8221; Stewart said after the election. &#8220;I still don&#8217;t understand why [immigration] became such a huge issue. I&#8217;d like to figure that out, so I can replicate it.&#8221; </p>
<p>Today&#8217;s Post.  Why this article didn&#8217;t make this mornings opening thread is beyond me.</p>
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		<title>By: Dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41673</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41673</guid>
		<description>I guess people will show interest when the taxes on their homes soar and the county decal doubles in cost.  Or........it takes 45 minutes to get from Giant at Westgate to Old Town Manassas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess people will show interest when the taxes on their homes soar and the county decal doubles in cost.  Or&#8230;&#8230;..it takes 45 minutes to get from Giant at Westgate to Old Town Manassas.</p>
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		<title>By: One Voice</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41660</link>
		<dc:creator>One Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41660</guid>
		<description>I don't think most are interested in the local money thing, Dolph.  For one, some would have to admit that Caddigan and Jenkins were right.  AND THEY WERE AND STILL ARE.  Horrors!!!!!!  :)

This is going to be interesting.  The real drama will kick off at the 12/18 BOS meeting.  I am trying to stir up some interest in local funding issues here; hoped the article in the Pot News about no roads after 2011 would have hit home - guess not.  Maybe when the supervisors budget committe's get rolling it will happen.  

Sure would hate to end up like DC; police cars in the lots with no mechanics.  The cars sat so long mice ate through all the wires.  

Honorable Mr. Stewart is right when he says we are not going to increase our commercial tax rate - we are going to have to WAIVE it to get new business here in PWC.

Act locally......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think most are interested in the local money thing, Dolph.  For one, some would have to admit that Caddigan and Jenkins were right.  AND THEY WERE AND STILL ARE.  Horrors!!!!!!  <img src='http://www.bvbl.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>This is going to be interesting.  The real drama will kick off at the 12/18 BOS meeting.  I am trying to stir up some interest in local funding issues here; hoped the article in the Pot News about no roads after 2011 would have hit home - guess not.  Maybe when the supervisors budget committe&#8217;s get rolling it will happen.  </p>
<p>Sure would hate to end up like DC; police cars in the lots with no mechanics.  The cars sat so long mice ate through all the wires.  </p>
<p>Honorable Mr. Stewart is right when he says we are not going to increase our commercial tax rate - we are going to have to WAIVE it to get new business here in PWC.</p>
<p>Act locally&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41658</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41658</guid>
		<description>One Voice,

Does this mean the 'fun has begun?'  It seems you warned us about money shortages all along.  Have the chickens come home to roost?  I hope you will stay on this one.  Apparently many folks need the money 101 review at least weekly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One Voice,</p>
<p>Does this mean the &#8216;fun has begun?&#8217;  It seems you warned us about money shortages all along.  Have the chickens come home to roost?  I hope you will stay on this one.  Apparently many folks need the money 101 review at least weekly.</p>
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		<title>By: NoVA Scout</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41631</link>
		<dc:creator>NoVA Scout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41631</guid>
		<description>How many "sanctuary" jurisdictions has Frederick identified in the Commonwealth?  How do we know one when we see it?  Is this a real world problem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many &#8220;sanctuary&#8221; jurisdictions has Frederick identified in the Commonwealth?  How do we know one when we see it?  Is this a real world problem?</p>
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		<title>By: One Voice</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41630</link>
		<dc:creator>One Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41630</guid>
		<description>PWC is gonna wish they had those federal fund for roads like Henrico and Arlington in about 22 months.  Let's bring it home folks and look what is happening in your back yard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PWC is gonna wish they had those federal fund for roads like Henrico and Arlington in about 22 months.  Let&#8217;s bring it home folks and look what is happening in your back yard.</p>
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		<title>By: Billyboy</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41623</link>
		<dc:creator>Billyboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41623</guid>
		<description>k. o'toole said on 28 Nov 2007 at 7:48 am: 

"Colgan on the Gas Tax"

The Election is over your Boy (Fatzsimmonds) lost (4 times now), you can stop spreading lies. Colgan's position was he prefered the Gas Tax over the House Republican Transportation plan. He never favored an additional gas tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>k. o&#8217;toole said on 28 Nov 2007 at 7:48 am: </p>
<p>&#8220;Colgan on the Gas Tax&#8221;</p>
<p>The Election is over your Boy (Fatzsimmonds) lost (4 times now), you can stop spreading lies. Colgan&#8217;s position was he prefered the Gas Tax over the House Republican Transportation plan. He never favored an additional gas tax.</p>
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		<title>By: Billyboy</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41622</link>
		<dc:creator>Billyboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41622</guid>
		<description>The State needs to pursue compensation from the Federal Government for the issues which Federal policies create. The State should not attempt to punish localities for failures on the Federal level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The State needs to pursue compensation from the Federal Government for the issues which Federal policies create. The State should not attempt to punish localities for failures on the Federal level.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41617</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41617</guid>
		<description>http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&#38;friendID=21021064</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&amp;friendID=21021064" rel="nofollow">http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&amp;friendID=21021064</a></p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41616</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41616</guid>
		<description>legal2 said on 28 Nov 2007 at 4:35,

Anyone seen what EricByler/9500Lib has been up to lately?

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&#38;friendID=70671590&#38;blogID=329952239
here is the other filmaker
pm:http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&#38;friendID=21021064</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>legal2 said on 28 Nov 2007 at 4:35,</p>
<p>Anyone seen what EricByler/9500Lib has been up to lately?</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&amp;friendID=70671590&amp;blogID=329952239" rel="nofollow">http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&amp;friendID=70671590&amp;blogID=329952239</a><br />
here is the other filmaker<br />
pm:http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&amp;friendID=21021064</p>
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		<title>By: One Voice</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41588</link>
		<dc:creator>One Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41588</guid>
		<description>Can we have a "see if they meant it" for PWC Supervisors.  The paper already reports that the county will have to stop building roads in 2011 or 2012.  Guess why?  There is no money and they all knew it in September.

Remember they haven't paid for immigration (yes, Virginia, there are big costs associated with the program), they can't pay for what they started last year because the Honorable Mr. Stewart doesn't think we really need a balanced five year plan to keep our AAA bond rating despite Moody's criteria.

Maybe we should have a "what the heck will they do now that they won" thread?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we have a &#8220;see if they meant it&#8221; for PWC Supervisors.  The paper already reports that the county will have to stop building roads in 2011 or 2012.  Guess why?  There is no money and they all knew it in September.</p>
<p>Remember they haven&#8217;t paid for immigration (yes, Virginia, there are big costs associated with the program), they can&#8217;t pay for what they started last year because the Honorable Mr. Stewart doesn&#8217;t think we really need a balanced five year plan to keep our AAA bond rating despite Moody&#8217;s criteria.</p>
<p>Maybe we should have a &#8220;what the heck will they do now that they won&#8221; thread?</p>
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		<title>By: legal2</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41569</link>
		<dc:creator>legal2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41569</guid>
		<description>Anyone seen what EricByler/9500Lib has been up to lately? http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&#38;friendID=70671590&#38;blogID=329952239</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone seen what EricByler/9500Lib has been up to lately? <a href="http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&amp;friendID=70671590&amp;blogID=329952239" rel="nofollow">http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&amp;friendID=70671590&amp;blogID=329952239</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41538</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41538</guid>
		<description>What Advocator said on 28 Nov 2007 at 2:22 pm

My mother taught me that that the only breach of etiquette worse than making a mistake in public was correcting someone else’s.  

It would have been more polite to remain mute on this issue; however, I suppose the point is moot (at this point).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Advocator said on 28 Nov 2007 at 2:22 pm</p>
<p>My mother taught me that that the only breach of etiquette worse than making a mistake in public was correcting someone else’s.  </p>
<p>It would have been more polite to remain mute on this issue; however, I suppose the point is moot (at this point).</p>
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		<title>By: Advocator</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41536</link>
		<dc:creator>Advocator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41536</guid>
		<description>Folks, the correct term is "MOOT" not "MUTE," although I wish some of you would be as much of the second as you are the first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks, the correct term is &#8220;MOOT&#8221; not &#8220;MUTE,&#8221; although I wish some of you would be as much of the second as you are the first.</p>
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		<title>By: Turn PW Blue</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41524</link>
		<dc:creator>Turn PW Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41524</guid>
		<description>Old Soldier--

I actually am right with you in your disdain for the Dillon Rule.  It's an anachronism and we would be better served with more local autonomy.  My statement was not meant in any way to say I thought the Dillon Rule was a *good* thing.  Rather is was to correct the presumption that local governments in Virginia really have any type of government power except those granted explicitly at the state level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old Soldier&#8211;</p>
<p>I actually am right with you in your disdain for the Dillon Rule.  It&#8217;s an anachronism and we would be better served with more local autonomy.  My statement was not meant in any way to say I thought the Dillon Rule was a *good* thing.  Rather is was to correct the presumption that local governments in Virginia really have any type of government power except those granted explicitly at the state level.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Soldier</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/28/frederick-lets-see-if-they-meant-it/#comment-41498</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Soldier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Turn PW Blue said on 28 Nov 2007 at 11:40 am

...and a Conservative General Assembly would not rely on the Dillon Rule to meddle in local affairs.  It's a Liberal's tool of choice because they assume we aren't smart enough to Govern ourselves.  For those who are familiar with it's history, it was a tool developed in the 19th Century to address corrupt local Governments.  Some say (including me, a 10th Amendment fan) it has outlived its intended purpose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Turn PW Blue said on 28 Nov 2007 at 11:40 am</p>
<p>&#8230;and a Conservative General Assembly would not rely on the Dillon Rule to meddle in local affairs.  It&#8217;s a Liberal&#8217;s tool of choice because they assume we aren&#8217;t smart enough to Govern ourselves.  For those who are familiar with it&#8217;s history, it was a tool developed in the 19th Century to address corrupt local Governments.  Some say (including me, a 10th Amendment fan) it has outlived its intended purpose.</p>
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