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	<title>Comments on: New Policy On School Identification Is Bogus?</title>
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		<title>By: ateacher</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-42130</link>
		<dc:creator>ateacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 21:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've just read this entire thread and realize many issues have been spoken about here.  On parental visits to classrooms:  I have no prob with parents coming in and participating or observing me while I teach.  I simply ask that they do not bring younger siblings with them b/c a crying baby or crazed 2 year old can be a disruption to the routine in the classroom.  On homeschooling:  I have many friends who do a fantastic job of homeschooling their children.  Homeschooling, when done right can be very positive for children and parents, and in this area there are many co-ops that do a good job educating students.  I also know of some families that claim to homeschool, yet the parents actually engage in little instruction.  My children attend public school in PWC,  and I have chosen to place them in the traditional program located at Pennington.  My daughter will graduate from there this year after spending grades 1-8 at the school.  I feel that she has received a STELLAR education in a public school environment that is diverse but not heavily ESOL. She has always made honor roll, has won 3 science fair awards, and is in the NJHS.  Since Pennington is a "choice school", students that exhibit serious behavior issues are NOT allowed to remain and disrupt the education of the others.  In a nut shell, they are kicked back to their base school.  There is mandatory parent volunteer requirements, and mandatory student community service requirements.  And ahhhhh, a mandatory uniform policy. Pennington is so full of parent involvement, we nearly trip over each other.  My son had serious reading issues last year and went thru the Reading Recovery program...a program not avail at private schools, and one that can not be duplicated at home.  As a result, this year he is on grade level for reading, and now in the pre-gifted program. 
 As far as per pupil spending, I'm  not sure where the money goes.  All I know is that I was given 100.00 to buy supplies for this year's group. Not per pupil, but for the entire class.  I had to purchase paint, chart paper, sentence strips, primary writing paper, sharpies, construction paper etc.  Like 100.00 goes far...not!  So yes I'm about 1000.00 in the hole as far as my own money is concerned.  Where does the per pupil money go?  Parents give supplies, the school buys supplies, I buy supplies... the school gives me 100.00, and I spend 1000.00, the PTA reimburses me 95.00.  We did get a grade level smart board (ka ching), and a leap pad, but that does not equal what is supposedly spent per pupil.  My students do not receive ESOL services, and PALS services are paid thru title 1 funds.  I also buy my own scotch tape, and  only received 5 reams of paper FOR THE YEAR.  I am also only allowed a certain amount of copies for the entire year.  If I want more, I have to go to kinkos and pay out of my pocket.  So where does the per pupil money go?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just read this entire thread and realize many issues have been spoken about here.  On parental visits to classrooms:  I have no prob with parents coming in and participating or observing me while I teach.  I simply ask that they do not bring younger siblings with them b/c a crying baby or crazed 2 year old can be a disruption to the routine in the classroom.  On homeschooling:  I have many friends who do a fantastic job of homeschooling their children.  Homeschooling, when done right can be very positive for children and parents, and in this area there are many co-ops that do a good job educating students.  I also know of some families that claim to homeschool, yet the parents actually engage in little instruction.  My children attend public school in PWC,  and I have chosen to place them in the traditional program located at Pennington.  My daughter will graduate from there this year after spending grades 1-8 at the school.  I feel that she has received a STELLAR education in a public school environment that is diverse but not heavily ESOL. She has always made honor roll, has won 3 science fair awards, and is in the NJHS.  Since Pennington is a &#8220;choice school&#8221;, students that exhibit serious behavior issues are NOT allowed to remain and disrupt the education of the others.  In a nut shell, they are kicked back to their base school.  There is mandatory parent volunteer requirements, and mandatory student community service requirements.  And ahhhhh, a mandatory uniform policy. Pennington is so full of parent involvement, we nearly trip over each other.  My son had serious reading issues last year and went thru the Reading Recovery program&#8230;a program not avail at private schools, and one that can not be duplicated at home.  As a result, this year he is on grade level for reading, and now in the pre-gifted program.<br />
 As far as per pupil spending, I&#8217;m  not sure where the money goes.  All I know is that I was given 100.00 to buy supplies for this year&#8217;s group. Not per pupil, but for the entire class.  I had to purchase paint, chart paper, sentence strips, primary writing paper, sharpies, construction paper etc.  Like 100.00 goes far&#8230;not!  So yes I&#8217;m about 1000.00 in the hole as far as my own money is concerned.  Where does the per pupil money go?  Parents give supplies, the school buys supplies, I buy supplies&#8230; the school gives me 100.00, and I spend 1000.00, the PTA reimburses me 95.00.  We did get a grade level smart board (ka ching), and a leap pad, but that does not equal what is supposedly spent per pupil.  My students do not receive ESOL services, and PALS services are paid thru title 1 funds.  I also buy my own scotch tape, and  only received 5 reams of paper FOR THE YEAR.  I am also only allowed a certain amount of copies for the entire year.  If I want more, I have to go to kinkos and pay out of my pocket.  So where does the per pupil money go?</p>
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		<title>By: One Voice</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-42005</link>
		<dc:creator>One Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-42005</guid>
		<description>Mando - I agree with Dolph, DC is not really comparable due to the long history of gross mismanagement of their overall budget.  Generally speaking you are correct.  Utah and Wisconsin have the overall highest SAT's scores if I recall correctly - they are in the middle of overall spending per pupil. 

I understand your point, and think there are more measurements to be used than spending per pupil.  If you've read my blogs you'll know that I am a product of parochial schools k-college so I know that spending does not corrolate to sucess. (or the ability to spell :) )  However, in the public system I believe more funding  contributes greatly to a better run system considering the obstacles placed in their way that are not found at the private schools.

Congratulations on your engagement - being a teacher these days is a heck of a committement.  I wish your fiance well.

Then there is the financial piece.  If you read that article would you consider moving your family or your business to PWC?  This is one of those situation that you can't spin.  Facts are facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mando - I agree with Dolph, DC is not really comparable due to the long history of gross mismanagement of their overall budget.  Generally speaking you are correct.  Utah and Wisconsin have the overall highest SAT&#8217;s scores if I recall correctly - they are in the middle of overall spending per pupil. </p>
<p>I understand your point, and think there are more measurements to be used than spending per pupil.  If you&#8217;ve read my blogs you&#8217;ll know that I am a product of parochial schools k-college so I know that spending does not corrolate to sucess. (or the ability to spell <img src='http://www.bvbl.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> )  However, in the public system I believe more funding  contributes greatly to a better run system considering the obstacles placed in their way that are not found at the private schools.</p>
<p>Congratulations on your engagement - being a teacher these days is a heck of a committement.  I wish your fiance well.</p>
<p>Then there is the financial piece.  If you read that article would you consider moving your family or your business to PWC?  This is one of those situation that you can&#8217;t spin.  Facts are facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-41992</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-41992</guid>
		<description>We need to sort out ateacher and   teacher (no 'a' in front of the name).

Mando,

Look at DC.  I don't think it should ever be used as an example of what money does or does not do in a school system.  That entire government is so screwed up.  I can't even talk about it.  It leaves me speechless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to sort out ateacher and   teacher (no &#8216;a&#8217; in front of the name).</p>
<p>Mando,</p>
<p>Look at DC.  I don&#8217;t think it should ever be used as an example of what money does or does not do in a school system.  That entire government is so screwed up.  I can&#8217;t even talk about it.  It leaves me speechless.</p>
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		<title>By: Mando</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-41971</link>
		<dc:creator>Mando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-41971</guid>
		<description>@ One Voice

I'm confused.  My point was DC throws more money at their school system per student then just about any other school system in the nation yet they have one of the WORST school systems in the nation.

Also, I'm engaged to teacher.  ;)

So I do hear the other side of it.  I know they need more money.  But for every $1 I spend in taxes for education, I wonder how much of that trickles down to actually educate.  I hear of some pretty assinine spending and of some pretty assinine policies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ One Voice</p>
<p>I&#8217;m confused.  My point was DC throws more money at their school system per student then just about any other school system in the nation yet they have one of the WORST school systems in the nation.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m engaged to teacher.  <img src='http://www.bvbl.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>So I do hear the other side of it.  I know they need more money.  But for every $1 I spend in taxes for education, I wonder how much of that trickles down to actually educate.  I hear of some pretty assinine spending and of some pretty assinine policies.</p>
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		<title>By: One Voice</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-41963</link>
		<dc:creator>One Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous --

Tell that to a teacher.  Also, forget DC - we just lost to PG County as well.  Money correlates to the quality of the education in the public system it does not correlate in a private system.</description>
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<p>Tell that to a teacher.  Also, forget DC - we just lost to PG County as well.  Money correlates to the quality of the education in the public system it does not correlate in a private system.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-41962</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-41962</guid>
		<description>@Turn PW Blue

"""Prince William ranks LAST in the Washington Metro area in per pupil spending (and we’re last by a pretty big margin). That should not be an issue of pride."""

And Washington DC ranks FIRST in the Washington Metro area in per pupil spending.

More money spent doesn't necessarily correlate to better education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Turn PW Blue</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;"Prince William ranks LAST in the Washington Metro area in per pupil spending (and we’re last by a pretty big margin). That should not be an issue of pride.&#8221;"&#8221;</p>
<p>And Washington DC ranks FIRST in the Washington Metro area in per pupil spending.</p>
<p>More money spent doesn&#8217;t necessarily correlate to better education.</p>
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		<title>By: Dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-41954</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon   at 12:51 pm,

What are you smoking?  Why would you post something like that?  

IGNORE BUTTON ACITVATED.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon   at 12:51 pm,</p>
<p>What are you smoking?  Why would you post something like that?  </p>
<p>IGNORE BUTTON ACITVATED.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Sentz</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-41949</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Sentz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-41949</guid>
		<description>Also, if PW county schools ONLY spend 66% of the national average on administrative costs, then I suggest the national average is way too high!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, if PW county schools ONLY spend 66% of the national average on administrative costs, then I suggest the national average is way too high!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Sentz</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-41948</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Sentz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-41948</guid>
		<description>Turn PW Blue says: Prince William ranks LAST in the Washington Metro area in per pupil spending (and we’re last by a pretty big margin). That should not be an issue of pride.
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If we rank LAST in per pupil spending, where do we rank interms of student achievement/graduation rates? I'll wager it's not LAST!

I assume you did not watch the video 'Stupid in America'. Without the NEA, we may have a chance!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turn PW Blue says: Prince William ranks LAST in the Washington Metro area in per pupil spending (and we’re last by a pretty big margin). That should not be an issue of pride.<br />
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If we rank LAST in per pupil spending, where do we rank interms of student achievement/graduation rates? I&#8217;ll wager it&#8217;s not LAST!</p>
<p>I assume you did not watch the video &#8216;Stupid in America&#8217;. Without the NEA, we may have a chance!</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-41930</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You think security checks are an issue to be concerned about.  Have you seen what has happened in California?  Are you paying attention to what may come to Virginia schools, in particular, textbooks next year?  Are you ready for the words MOM and DAD to be banned from schools?  Are you ready for locker rooms  and bathrooms to be open to anyone?

The following was Bill was PASSED and is now IN FORCE in California and other states are following suit.  Parents, are you paying attention?

2007 Senate Bill 777 which prohibits all classes, school activities, textbooks, and teachers from instruction that "reflects or promotes bias against homosexuals, transgenders, and bisexuals in public schools (including Kindergarten).
Sentate Bill 777 (already passed) also bans anything in public schools that could be interpreted as negative toward homosexuals and bisexuality. 
This bill also "bans anything in public schools that could be interpreted as negative toward homosexuality and bisexuality.  This bill bans "any text, reference or interpretation portraying marriage as only between man and a woman."
Books removing the words Mom and Dad will apparently go to press in January.  Boys who feel they are girls, or girls who feel they are boys, will be allowed to use any restroom or locker rooms they choose.  (Do you see any potential problems with this?)
Homecoming queens may be male and homecoming kings can be female,  because it is hate speech to say that a King must be a guy and a Queen must be a girl.  It is a bias against homosexuality and therefore hate speech.  
This Bill is supported by the NEA (National Education Association).
So while this bill has been passed in California (and I believe some other states have or are following suit), it may soon be passed Nationwide.   
This bill also bans ALL MATERIAL declaring that people are born male or female. (YES!  This bill passed!)
Assembly Bill 394 was passed stating that teachers and parents with conservative, traditional lifestyles and beliefs who voice their opinions on these issues will be candidates for "Anti-harrassment" training.  You cannot tell your child's teacher that you prefer your child to be taught that a mother and father are what constitutes parents.  You may be reported and required to attend Anti-harrassment training.
Assembly Bill 14 Prohibits funding for any program not supporting a range of sexual practices, including state funded social services operated by churches, daycare, preschool, food and housing programs, job programs, senior services and hospitals.  So the programs MUST state that they support homosexuality or their funding from the state of California will be pulled.  Any textbooks stating the words MOM and DAD must be pulled out of schools because it is biased against the gay lifestyle and shows gender.  This is a done deal in California.  Not proposed.  Done. Passed.  Think it won't come to this state?  Think again.  Beginning in the fall of 2008 school text books will NOT reflect the words MOM and DAD even in grades as low as Kindergarten.  California is the largest purchaser of textbooks, so the companies who publish these text books is taking the words out of ALL the textbooks... even YOUR child's textbooks.  No longer will history books state something along the lines of "The men of Valley Forge..." but instead "The people of Valley Forge..."  You cannot say "He rode his bike to school," but instead "It rode its bike to school."
Sports, locker rooms and bathrooms must now be all gender neutral.
The point is this.... if your child goes to Public School, you NEED to stay on top of what is going on in this country and don't just ASSUME that your values and beliefs are going to be supported.  You need to know not only WHAT is being taught, but what is NOT being taught.
While we may not hate alternate lifestyles, we may not want to support these types of changes in our eduational system.  Yet, it has happened already in California and some other states are following suit.  Do you really want to be referred to as "it"?  There will be no more Mr. and Mrs. titles.
This bill cannot be over ruled by the President because it was a state bill.  It could have been over ruled by the Governor (Schwartzenneger) but he signed it into law.  
If parents are not paying attention to these bills being passed, eventually it will hit enough states to be passed into Federal law and then it will be next to impossible to overturn.
So... heads up.  Pay attention.  Know what is headed to our public schools.  Because even if you homeshool, your taxes are paying for these changes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You think security checks are an issue to be concerned about.  Have you seen what has happened in California?  Are you paying attention to what may come to Virginia schools, in particular, textbooks next year?  Are you ready for the words MOM and DAD to be banned from schools?  Are you ready for locker rooms  and bathrooms to be open to anyone?</p>
<p>The following was Bill was PASSED and is now IN FORCE in California and other states are following suit.  Parents, are you paying attention?</p>
<p>2007 Senate Bill 777 which prohibits all classes, school activities, textbooks, and teachers from instruction that &#8220;reflects or promotes bias against homosexuals, transgenders, and bisexuals in public schools (including Kindergarten).<br />
Sentate Bill 777 (already passed) also bans anything in public schools that could be interpreted as negative toward homosexuals and bisexuality.<br />
This bill also &#8220;bans anything in public schools that could be interpreted as negative toward homosexuality and bisexuality.  This bill bans &#8220;any text, reference or interpretation portraying marriage as only between man and a woman.&#8221;<br />
Books removing the words Mom and Dad will apparently go to press in January.  Boys who feel they are girls, or girls who feel they are boys, will be allowed to use any restroom or locker rooms they choose.  (Do you see any potential problems with this?)<br />
Homecoming queens may be male and homecoming kings can be female,  because it is hate speech to say that a King must be a guy and a Queen must be a girl.  It is a bias against homosexuality and therefore hate speech.<br />
This Bill is supported by the NEA (National Education Association).<br />
So while this bill has been passed in California (and I believe some other states have or are following suit), it may soon be passed Nationwide.<br />
This bill also bans ALL MATERIAL declaring that people are born male or female. (YES!  This bill passed!)<br />
Assembly Bill 394 was passed stating that teachers and parents with conservative, traditional lifestyles and beliefs who voice their opinions on these issues will be candidates for &#8220;Anti-harrassment&#8221; training.  You cannot tell your child&#8217;s teacher that you prefer your child to be taught that a mother and father are what constitutes parents.  You may be reported and required to attend Anti-harrassment training.<br />
Assembly Bill 14 Prohibits funding for any program not supporting a range of sexual practices, including state funded social services operated by churches, daycare, preschool, food and housing programs, job programs, senior services and hospitals.  So the programs MUST state that they support homosexuality or their funding from the state of California will be pulled.  Any textbooks stating the words MOM and DAD must be pulled out of schools because it is biased against the gay lifestyle and shows gender.  This is a done deal in California.  Not proposed.  Done. Passed.  Think it won&#8217;t come to this state?  Think again.  Beginning in the fall of 2008 school text books will NOT reflect the words MOM and DAD even in grades as low as Kindergarten.  California is the largest purchaser of textbooks, so the companies who publish these text books is taking the words out of ALL the textbooks&#8230; even YOUR child&#8217;s textbooks.  No longer will history books state something along the lines of &#8220;The men of Valley Forge&#8230;&#8221; but instead &#8220;The people of Valley Forge&#8230;&#8221;  You cannot say &#8220;He rode his bike to school,&#8221; but instead &#8220;It rode its bike to school.&#8221;<br />
Sports, locker rooms and bathrooms must now be all gender neutral.<br />
The point is this&#8230;. if your child goes to Public School, you NEED to stay on top of what is going on in this country and don&#8217;t just ASSUME that your values and beliefs are going to be supported.  You need to know not only WHAT is being taught, but what is NOT being taught.<br />
While we may not hate alternate lifestyles, we may not want to support these types of changes in our eduational system.  Yet, it has happened already in California and some other states are following suit.  Do you really want to be referred to as &#8220;it&#8221;?  There will be no more Mr. and Mrs. titles.<br />
This bill cannot be over ruled by the President because it was a state bill.  It could have been over ruled by the Governor (Schwartzenneger) but he signed it into law.<br />
If parents are not paying attention to these bills being passed, eventually it will hit enough states to be passed into Federal law and then it will be next to impossible to overturn.<br />
So&#8230; heads up.  Pay attention.  Know what is headed to our public schools.  Because even if you homeshool, your taxes are paying for these changes.</p>
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		<title>By: Turn PW Blue</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-41909</link>
		<dc:creator>Turn PW Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob Sentz:

You do know that PWCS has administrative costs that are 66% of the national average, right?  You also realize that while the Kelly Building looks expensive on paper, PWCS is now the second largest school district in Virginia (behind Fairfax) and that right now a large portion of the school's annual budget goes towards renting office space around the county because the facilities at Independent Hill are inadequate.  You have been to Independent Hill to see the decrepit trailers that pass for professional office space, right?  You do know that some of the best and most promising PWCS teachers are leaving the county when they are just hitting their prime as teachers because surrounding jurisdictions offer better pay and working conditions, right?

It's really easy to say money isn't the answer, we should force belt tightening and cutting administrative expenses.  Well, that's already happened.  We have a growing school system that is on the crux of some really big problems if our School Board and BOCS don't get their heads out of their, well, posteriors, and realize that talk and rhetoric don't prepare our children for the future.  Declining school infrastructure, overcrowding, teacher recruitment, and overall neglect in the name of "fiscal responsibility" is a crock.  Do you really think we'll be able to attract new businesses to the area if our schools suck (here's a hint, good schools are among the top reasons companies locate their businesses in a certain community--they want to be able to attract the best workforce).  While I will be the last to argue that money will fix everything, there certainly needs to be a recognition that smart spending is an investment, not a sunk cost.  Prince William ranks LAST in the Washington Metro area in per pupil spending (and we're last by a pretty big margin).  That should not be an issue of pride.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob Sentz:</p>
<p>You do know that PWCS has administrative costs that are 66% of the national average, right?  You also realize that while the Kelly Building looks expensive on paper, PWCS is now the second largest school district in Virginia (behind Fairfax) and that right now a large portion of the school&#8217;s annual budget goes towards renting office space around the county because the facilities at Independent Hill are inadequate.  You have been to Independent Hill to see the decrepit trailers that pass for professional office space, right?  You do know that some of the best and most promising PWCS teachers are leaving the county when they are just hitting their prime as teachers because surrounding jurisdictions offer better pay and working conditions, right?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really easy to say money isn&#8217;t the answer, we should force belt tightening and cutting administrative expenses.  Well, that&#8217;s already happened.  We have a growing school system that is on the crux of some really big problems if our School Board and BOCS don&#8217;t get their heads out of their, well, posteriors, and realize that talk and rhetoric don&#8217;t prepare our children for the future.  Declining school infrastructure, overcrowding, teacher recruitment, and overall neglect in the name of &#8220;fiscal responsibility&#8221; is a crock.  Do you really think we&#8217;ll be able to attract new businesses to the area if our schools suck (here&#8217;s a hint, good schools are among the top reasons companies locate their businesses in a certain community&#8211;they want to be able to attract the best workforce).  While I will be the last to argue that money will fix everything, there certainly needs to be a recognition that smart spending is an investment, not a sunk cost.  Prince William ranks LAST in the Washington Metro area in per pupil spending (and we&#8217;re last by a pretty big margin).  That should not be an issue of pride.</p>
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		<title>By: Princess Billy-Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-41876</link>
		<dc:creator>Princess Billy-Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-41876</guid>
		<description>Linebreaker,

The front doors are always open unless a school is on lockdown.  There are also big huge signs at most doors saying you must report in to the office which is where most schools  have you sign in.  Additionally, there are security cameras all over the place.  I don't expect you would have gotten very far if you had gone some place other than the front office.  

Security from Central Office also does stealth security checks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linebreaker,</p>
<p>The front doors are always open unless a school is on lockdown.  There are also big huge signs at most doors saying you must report in to the office which is where most schools  have you sign in.  Additionally, there are security cameras all over the place.  I don&#8217;t expect you would have gotten very far if you had gone some place other than the front office.  </p>
<p>Security from Central Office also does stealth security checks.</p>
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		<title>By: CJC</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-41827</link>
		<dc:creator>CJC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-41827</guid>
		<description>Dolph,
I can hope, can't I?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dolph,<br />
I can hope, can&#8217;t I?</p>
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		<title>By: Line Breaker</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-41823</link>
		<dc:creator>Line Breaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-41823</guid>
		<description>Yesterday (Thursday)  I went to my kids high school to drop something off.  11 AM and the doors were unlocked and no-one , repeat, no-one asked me for ID, stopped me to sign in or anything.  There was just an empty table where someone was supposed to be to check id's.  So it just goes to show you that not all schools are secured at all times.  It just takes a minute to get thru.  I am so glad my kid is graduating this year and we are done with PWC schools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday (Thursday)  I went to my kids high school to drop something off.  11 AM and the doors were unlocked and no-one , repeat, no-one asked me for ID, stopped me to sign in or anything.  There was just an empty table where someone was supposed to be to check id&#8217;s.  So it just goes to show you that not all schools are secured at all times.  It just takes a minute to get thru.  I am so glad my kid is graduating this year and we are done with PWC schools.</p>
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		<title>By: Dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-41816</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 07:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-41816</guid>
		<description>correction:  nervOus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correction:  nervOus</p>
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		<title>By: Dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-41815</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 06:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-41815</guid>
		<description>CJC,

For the past several years all IDs have been turned over and held by front office personnel while the person is in the building.  I have never noticed anyone being particularly nervous about it.  Perhaps I have never been there when illegals were, but given the neighborhood school, I find that hard to believe.  *I* would be nervous, like you suggest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CJC,</p>
<p>For the past several years all IDs have been turned over and held by front office personnel while the person is in the building.  I have never noticed anyone being particularly nervous about it.  Perhaps I have never been there when illegals were, but given the neighborhood school, I find that hard to believe.  *I* would be nervous, like you suggest.</p>
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		<title>By: CJC</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-41809</link>
		<dc:creator>CJC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 05:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-41809</guid>
		<description>If I were an illegal alien it would make me feel very uneasy to have my ID scanned.    If it seems like we are rolling up the welcome mat . . . . . . good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were an illegal alien it would make me feel very uneasy to have my ID scanned.    If it seems like we are rolling up the welcome mat . . . . . . good.</p>
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		<title>By: Dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-41799</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 03:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-41799</guid>
		<description>Homeschool Mom of 2,

I agree with you on both points.  Actually PWCS has had pretty tight security since fairly soon after 9/11.  This software and procedure is just an added layer of protection.  

You asked....does PWC want to police the schools for illegal immigrants or from criminals who endanger children in other ways?  The obvious answer is the later.  I don't want the school system involved in illegal indentification.  It isn't their job and alienates those they are supposed to be delivering a service too (whether we agree with illegals receiving the service or not).  Schools have too much to do as it is, without getting involved in confirmation of immigration status.  Thank you for bringing this point up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Homeschool Mom of 2,</p>
<p>I agree with you on both points.  Actually PWCS has had pretty tight security since fairly soon after 9/11.  This software and procedure is just an added layer of protection.  </p>
<p>You asked&#8230;.does PWC want to police the schools for illegal immigrants or from criminals who endanger children in other ways?  The obvious answer is the later.  I don&#8217;t want the school system involved in illegal indentification.  It isn&#8217;t their job and alienates those they are supposed to be delivering a service too (whether we agree with illegals receiving the service or not).  Schools have too much to do as it is, without getting involved in confirmation of immigration status.  Thank you for bringing this point up.</p>
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		<title>By: Homeschool Mom of 2</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-41797</link>
		<dc:creator>Homeschool Mom of 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 02:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-41797</guid>
		<description>Well, this blog entry was directed towards the requirement of Identification for schools.  In Texas, this has been going on for awhile.  There are a couple of reasons behind this.  One is the protection of children from criminals (whoever they may be for whatever crime) and another is for protection from children who are living under the sole custody of one parent but perhaps not to be seen under any circumstances by the other parent.  It will take PWC a little while to figure out what it will accept as identification.  What needs to be decided is, do the Public Schools have an obligation to report illegal immigrants when shown identification.  If the parents  are illegal, some sort of documentation has already been shown when the child was enrolled in the school system.  So, does PWC want to police the schools for illegal immigrants or from criminals who endanger children in other ways?
Onto the issue of homeschooling... for every homeschooler who can provide proof that homeschooling is better than public school, there will be a public schooler who will provide proof that public school is better.  What needs to happen is that ALL Parents should take an active part in their child's education no matter where that child is taught.  There are many great teachers in the public school system.  However, parents should not just assume that schools are "doing their job" but take an active part in researching what is being taught and even more important, what is NOT being taught.  JMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this blog entry was directed towards the requirement of Identification for schools.  In Texas, this has been going on for awhile.  There are a couple of reasons behind this.  One is the protection of children from criminals (whoever they may be for whatever crime) and another is for protection from children who are living under the sole custody of one parent but perhaps not to be seen under any circumstances by the other parent.  It will take PWC a little while to figure out what it will accept as identification.  What needs to be decided is, do the Public Schools have an obligation to report illegal immigrants when shown identification.  If the parents  are illegal, some sort of documentation has already been shown when the child was enrolled in the school system.  So, does PWC want to police the schools for illegal immigrants or from criminals who endanger children in other ways?<br />
Onto the issue of homeschooling&#8230; for every homeschooler who can provide proof that homeschooling is better than public school, there will be a public schooler who will provide proof that public school is better.  What needs to happen is that ALL Parents should take an active part in their child&#8217;s education no matter where that child is taught.  There are many great teachers in the public school system.  However, parents should not just assume that schools are &#8220;doing their job&#8221; but take an active part in researching what is being taught and even more important, what is NOT being taught.  JMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-41772</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/11/29/new-policy-on-school-identification-is-bogus/#comment-41772</guid>
		<description>JL,

HIGHER TAXES

Or, how about re-prioritizing spending?  That works.  How about the federal government getting out of the business of local education and tending  to the job it is supposed to do, like securing our borders.  That works much better for me than paying higher taxes.  

If the Christmas remark was made to me, I don’t recall bringing it up.  You won’t see me at work on December 25.  Christmas is a legal holiday and I don’t trumpet my religious beliefs so everyone except my friends will just have to guess if I celebrate Christmas or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JL,</p>
<p>HIGHER TAXES</p>
<p>Or, how about re-prioritizing spending?  That works.  How about the federal government getting out of the business of local education and tending  to the job it is supposed to do, like securing our borders.  That works much better for me than paying higher taxes.  </p>
<p>If the Christmas remark was made to me, I don’t recall bringing it up.  You won’t see me at work on December 25.  Christmas is a legal holiday and I don’t trumpet my religious beliefs so everyone except my friends will just have to guess if I celebrate Christmas or not.</p>
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