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	<title>Comments on: Satan Joins The Manassas Christmas Parade</title>
	<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/</link>
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		<title>By: dusty</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-46377</link>
		<dc:creator>dusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-46377</guid>
		<description>it is all said to open up and let all things embrace your opened mind.  I did not go to the parade and do not understand why you people get upset because a bunch of people put on a show, according to someone they won third plasce so it must not have been that bad, ot the idiots that were voting did nwant to offend.  At any rate PWC has and is cracking down on illegals and some of the other counties are alos and soon they will be gone to Maryland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is all said to open up and let all things embrace your opened mind.  I did not go to the parade and do not understand why you people get upset because a bunch of people put on a show, according to someone they won third plasce so it must not have been that bad, ot the idiots that were voting did nwant to offend.  At any rate PWC has and is cracking down on illegals and some of the other counties are alos and soon they will be gone to Maryland.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-43098</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 04:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-43098</guid>
		<description>The irony in this thread is that we created laws and concepts in recent history and civila rights movements that require us to be tolerant and accepting of all gender, racial, ethnic, and religious group beliefs, practices, doctrines and social diversity.

Yet when in practice that diversity becomes threatening or offensive we become shocked, afraid and horrified at the possibility it could upset our personal applecart.

Until we create and understand the benefit of laws that require genders, ethnic groups, races and religious belief systems to be the same, with neither privilige nor discrimmination we will always have to deal with the stupidity and offense of belief systems that threaten our very existence, peace and harmony as a blended society.

If you continue to promote diversity, inclusion and group privilige, you will continue to create a society where no one is happy, no-one can enjoy a holiday without offense and no-one can find peace and harmony in a harmonious culturally homogenous society, where every individual trusts and respects every other because the same similarn human characteristics and value systems.

That is why the 60, 70, and 80s will eventualy destroy society and lead to city states in confict.  Diversity can lead ultimately to no-where but mistrust, offensiveness, and conflict, especially in the ethics of defining "tasteful" holidays.  On this issue I must agree with Greg.  Diversity has gone too far when it insults and harms the majority to make a minority feel good as a Pagan ritual practioner. What will come next? Slaughtering animals?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The irony in this thread is that we created laws and concepts in recent history and civila rights movements that require us to be tolerant and accepting of all gender, racial, ethnic, and religious group beliefs, practices, doctrines and social diversity.</p>
<p>Yet when in practice that diversity becomes threatening or offensive we become shocked, afraid and horrified at the possibility it could upset our personal applecart.</p>
<p>Until we create and understand the benefit of laws that require genders, ethnic groups, races and religious belief systems to be the same, with neither privilige nor discrimmination we will always have to deal with the stupidity and offense of belief systems that threaten our very existence, peace and harmony as a blended society.</p>
<p>If you continue to promote diversity, inclusion and group privilige, you will continue to create a society where no one is happy, no-one can enjoy a holiday without offense and no-one can find peace and harmony in a harmonious culturally homogenous society, where every individual trusts and respects every other because the same similarn human characteristics and value systems.</p>
<p>That is why the 60, 70, and 80s will eventualy destroy society and lead to city states in confict.  Diversity can lead ultimately to no-where but mistrust, offensiveness, and conflict, especially in the ethics of defining &#8220;tasteful&#8221; holidays.  On this issue I must agree with Greg.  Diversity has gone too far when it insults and harms the majority to make a minority feel good as a Pagan ritual practioner. What will come next? Slaughtering animals?</p>
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		<title>By: redawn</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42759</link>
		<dc:creator>redawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 02:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42759</guid>
		<description>Lafayette,

LOL, I knew you weren't skipping :) Yes, it has been educational and I hope it remains. What would we do with out this blog? I have drifted to others, but this is a good blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lafayette,</p>
<p>LOL, I knew you weren&#8217;t skipping <img src='http://www.bvbl.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> Yes, it has been educational and I hope it remains. What would we do with out this blog? I have drifted to others, but this is a good blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Lafayette</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42539</link>
		<dc:creator>Lafayette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 03:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42539</guid>
		<description>redawn,
Present!
Oh yeah, I tell the "Queen" those samethings, and encourage hereto be active and involved in school.
I know we have both gotten quite the "education" the past few months. I have BVBL to thank for a large part of the education.The day we stop learning...is the day we may as well roll over and play dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>redawn,<br />
Present!<br />
Oh yeah, I tell the &#8220;Queen&#8221; those samethings, and encourage hereto be active and involved in school.<br />
I know we have both gotten quite the &#8220;education&#8221; the past few months. I have BVBL to thank for a large part of the education.The day we stop learning&#8230;is the day we may as well roll over and play dead.</p>
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		<title>By: redawn</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42536</link>
		<dc:creator>redawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 02:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42536</guid>
		<description>ateacher,

It sounds like it's time for our history books to be updated and be more informed as our diversity is ever changing. I know, if I could, I would go back to school, but I want  it to be updated :) I tell my kids all the time, learn as much as you can, you don't know what you are missing...yeah, right...didn't our parents tell us that too? :) 
I am still learning though....just have to WANT to......roll call, I am here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ateacher,</p>
<p>It sounds like it&#8217;s time for our history books to be updated and be more informed as our diversity is ever changing. I know, if I could, I would go back to school, but I want  it to be updated <img src='http://www.bvbl.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> I tell my kids all the time, learn as much as you can, you don&#8217;t know what you are missing&#8230;yeah, right&#8230;didn&#8217;t our parents tell us that too? <img src='http://www.bvbl.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I am still learning though&#8230;.just have to WANT to&#8230;&#8230;roll call, I am here.</p>
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		<title>By: ateacher</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42534</link>
		<dc:creator>ateacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 02:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42534</guid>
		<description>Geez..this whole xmas parade thing is funny.  Last time I checked the history books, mexican "indio" traditions did not overtake Europe, Europe over took them.  Devils at xmas...how pagan...well so is the xmas tree, and the fools that concocted the theme "a tropical xmas".  If religion was Santa, PT Crusiers clubs, parades with horses as a main event, and cheerleaders, I might have been offended.  But the local xmas parade is not about religion or culture...it is about business, with some girl scouts thrown in for good measure.  Pump-it-up had a stellar float and gave 15 dollars off a 350.00 b-day party coupons.  Whooo hoo the spirit of xmas lives!  Little do most of you know, but xmas celebrations were banned in James town.  Christmas caroling was expressley banned since in involved less than stellar types, running around and singing bawdy tunes while seriously drunk. Ah the early American Christmas Carols.  I'm sure there are many that are thrilled that the Victorians got a hold on that misbehavior, and created a more white glove version. Like they did for fairy tales.  Clean it all up, turn a blind eye to the history.  A waissiling we go.  I'm so sure the pink flamingo/pirate/ dance teams would have sent most Victorians into serious vapors that devils bother me naught.  Be careful, black pete and Kris Kringle are just around the corner!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez..this whole xmas parade thing is funny.  Last time I checked the history books, mexican &#8220;indio&#8221; traditions did not overtake Europe, Europe over took them.  Devils at xmas&#8230;how pagan&#8230;well so is the xmas tree, and the fools that concocted the theme &#8220;a tropical xmas&#8221;.  If religion was Santa, PT Crusiers clubs, parades with horses as a main event, and cheerleaders, I might have been offended.  But the local xmas parade is not about religion or culture&#8230;it is about business, with some girl scouts thrown in for good measure.  Pump-it-up had a stellar float and gave 15 dollars off a 350.00 b-day party coupons.  Whooo hoo the spirit of xmas lives!  Little do most of you know, but xmas celebrations were banned in James town.  Christmas caroling was expressley banned since in involved less than stellar types, running around and singing bawdy tunes while seriously drunk. Ah the early American Christmas Carols.  I&#8217;m sure there are many that are thrilled that the Victorians got a hold on that misbehavior, and created a more white glove version. Like they did for fairy tales.  Clean it all up, turn a blind eye to the history.  A waissiling we go.  I&#8217;m so sure the pink flamingo/pirate/ dance teams would have sent most Victorians into serious vapors that devils bother me naught.  Be careful, black pete and Kris Kringle are just around the corner!</p>
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		<title>By: es_la_ley</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42513</link>
		<dc:creator>es_la_ley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42513</guid>
		<description>Dolph : &lt;i&gt;I also never liked clowns.&lt;/i&gt;

Well, you have your hands full of them here!  :-)


I've always had a fear of nutcrackers (the wooden soldier-type prevalent this time of year).  My kids think it's hysterical.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dolph : <i>I also never liked clowns.</i></p>
<p>Well, you have your hands full of them here!  <img src='http://www.bvbl.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always had a fear of nutcrackers (the wooden soldier-type prevalent this time of year).  My kids think it&#8217;s hysterical.  <img src='http://www.bvbl.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Red Woman</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42477</link>
		<dc:creator>Red Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42477</guid>
		<description>I actually was watching some Tibetan monks prepare one of their ornate mandalas.  They had been working on their design for days.  I guess they then bless the finished artwork and disperse it by putting into a body of water.  I think the design was made of colored sand.  The swastika (right hand version) was repeated in their design as an ancient symbol of good fortune, although the monks felt compelled to post a sign with an explanation in several Western languages (not well written, but understandable).   

Dolph, I don't like clowns either. I'm not amused by them in the least!  The only thing worse than a clown is a mime!  =:-o</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually was watching some Tibetan monks prepare one of their ornate mandalas.  They had been working on their design for days.  I guess they then bless the finished artwork and disperse it by putting into a body of water.  I think the design was made of colored sand.  The swastika (right hand version) was repeated in their design as an ancient symbol of good fortune, although the monks felt compelled to post a sign with an explanation in several Western languages (not well written, but understandable).   </p>
<p>Dolph, I don&#8217;t like clowns either. I&#8217;m not amused by them in the least!  The only thing worse than a clown is a mime!  =:-o</p>
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		<title>By: josh</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42421</link>
		<dc:creator>josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42421</guid>
		<description>The swastika (the right hand version) actually goes way, way back. you can find it in himalayan lore as well as chinese historical documents. the left hand cross symbolized bad luck or ill fortune.

The Nazi's actually took the right hand swastika (hakenkruz or hooked cross) and reversed it giving us the symbol that we all know best.

Josh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The swastika (the right hand version) actually goes way, way back. you can find it in himalayan lore as well as chinese historical documents. the left hand cross symbolized bad luck or ill fortune.</p>
<p>The Nazi&#8217;s actually took the right hand swastika (hakenkruz or hooked cross) and reversed it giving us the symbol that we all know best.</p>
<p>Josh</p>
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		<title>By: John Light</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42412</link>
		<dc:creator>John Light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42412</guid>
		<description>Red Woman:  I knew him as Black Peter or Schmutzli (my background is Swiss).  I was told of him as a child, but the way it was explained to me, "Over in Switzerland we would..." See, my relatives, upon stepping onshore of the United States, did what they could to learn the language (English) and blend in so that they could succeed, which they did quite well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red Woman:  I knew him as Black Peter or Schmutzli (my background is Swiss).  I was told of him as a child, but the way it was explained to me, &#8220;Over in Switzerland we would&#8230;&#8221; See, my relatives, upon stepping onshore of the United States, did what they could to learn the language (English) and blend in so that they could succeed, which they did quite well.</p>
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		<title>By: John Light</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42411</link>
		<dc:creator>John Light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42411</guid>
		<description>To me, the X in XMas is a lot like the broken cross, or the Swastika.  For avaitors, it was a symbol of good luck.  As a matter of fact, there is a famous picture of Charles Lindbergh with a Swastika pin and it was rubbed out by a GI who mistakenly took it to be support of the NAZIs when, in fact, it goes back to the days of the ancient Romans (I believe).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, the X in XMas is a lot like the broken cross, or the Swastika.  For avaitors, it was a symbol of good luck.  As a matter of fact, there is a famous picture of Charles Lindbergh with a Swastika pin and it was rubbed out by a GI who mistakenly took it to be support of the NAZIs when, in fact, it goes back to the days of the ancient Romans (I believe).</p>
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		<title>By: John Light</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42409</link>
		<dc:creator>John Light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42409</guid>
		<description>Speaking of "Satan" - Chavez lost!!!  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071203/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/venezuela_constitution</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of &#8220;Satan&#8221; - Chavez lost!!!  <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071203/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/venezuela_constitution" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071203/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/venezuela_constitution</a></p>
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		<title>By: dsbaf</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42407</link>
		<dc:creator>dsbaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42407</guid>
		<description>"Josh 9:22, I find your abbreviation of christmas as xmas just as offending. By the way, if what is said happened, then I am also against it, but christmas should not be abreviated to leave Christs name out of it. Not a sermon, just a thought!"

Sam, in case you didn't read it already, go read 999's explanation.  "Xmas" actually emphasizes Christ's name, but it does so in a way that the uneducated sadly don't understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Josh 9:22, I find your abbreviation of christmas as xmas just as offending. By the way, if what is said happened, then I am also against it, but christmas should not be abreviated to leave Christs name out of it. Not a sermon, just a thought!&#8221;</p>
<p>Sam, in case you didn&#8217;t read it already, go read 999&#8217;s explanation.  &#8220;Xmas&#8221; actually emphasizes Christ&#8217;s name, but it does so in a way that the uneducated sadly don&#8217;t understand.</p>
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		<title>By: Dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42399</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42399</guid>
		<description>Red Woman,

You certainly are entitled to a rant!  You have made some good points.

When I was a young whippersnpper, I was terrified of Santa Claus.  I ran for dear life if I got anywhere near that jolly old elf.  One of the family stories told for years was about my mother and grandmother taking me to Richmond to see Santa.  I took one look at him and dove under a display table, shrieking,  and wouldn't come out.  Both my mother and grandmother had to crawl under the table to pull me out, kicking and screaming.  They left immediately after that, faces glowing red.  No one ever tried to get Santa and Dolph to bond again.  I also never liked clowns.

~~splash~~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red Woman,</p>
<p>You certainly are entitled to a rant!  You have made some good points.</p>
<p>When I was a young whippersnpper, I was terrified of Santa Claus.  I ran for dear life if I got anywhere near that jolly old elf.  One of the family stories told for years was about my mother and grandmother taking me to Richmond to see Santa.  I took one look at him and dove under a display table, shrieking,  and wouldn&#8217;t come out.  Both my mother and grandmother had to crawl under the table to pull me out, kicking and screaming.  They left immediately after that, faces glowing red.  No one ever tried to get Santa and Dolph to bond again.  I also never liked clowns.</p>
<p>~~splash~~</p>
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		<title>By: Red Woman</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42395</link>
		<dc:creator>Red Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42395</guid>
		<description>You must pardon Red Woman a bit of a rant.  

At least Manassas still has a Christmas Parade... and that's something!... and I actually have to side a bit with UnMasMexican on this one.  I guess I wasn't an easily scared little girl, because I'd have thought this dance was pretty cool.  I actually enjoy Mexican and Central American dancing.  I tend to agree that Mardi Gras is a time when we expect to see this sort of thing, though.  

Sure, there is something pagan to the dance.  Just like to the date we picked for Christmas, because there is no evidence whatsoever Jesus was born on December 25 or January 7.  We supplanted a pagan mid-winter holiday with a reverence of our own true God.  And that's okay.  

And thanks to 999, for explaining "Xmas" properly.  The "X" commonly appears on Orthodox crosses and iconography, in order to represent Christ.  For those well versed in Christianity in all its flavors (or at least in heraldry), they'd also know that "X" is also, a cross in the west - the cross of St. Andrews.  So it's not such a bad letter, after all, you see.  


As to Santa Claus, he has grown about as far from St. Nicholas as he could be.  Heck, saying "Xmas" is closer to proper Christendom than he is!  

Raised in Orthodox Christianity, I can tell you we really have no Santa Claus.  Never believed in him, never wrote him letters, never cared about him.  We're not the ones standing in line to buy a Wii to make sure Junior still believes in a non-existent Jolly Fat Elf who brings presents.  But we have plenty of reminders of the real St. Nicholas about.  He was much more interesting.        

What I'd like to see is a depiction of the Krampus in a Christmas parade!  Anyone of German ancestry?  In that tradition, he looks like horned devil and whips anyone out of the Jolly Fat Man's path!  And he'd scare you a lot more than the devil the Mexican dancers have... yep, its not all heaping, tasty stollen in that tradition, either...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must pardon Red Woman a bit of a rant.  </p>
<p>At least Manassas still has a Christmas Parade&#8230; and that&#8217;s something!&#8230; and I actually have to side a bit with UnMasMexican on this one.  I guess I wasn&#8217;t an easily scared little girl, because I&#8217;d have thought this dance was pretty cool.  I actually enjoy Mexican and Central American dancing.  I tend to agree that Mardi Gras is a time when we expect to see this sort of thing, though.  </p>
<p>Sure, there is something pagan to the dance.  Just like to the date we picked for Christmas, because there is no evidence whatsoever Jesus was born on December 25 or January 7.  We supplanted a pagan mid-winter holiday with a reverence of our own true God.  And that&#8217;s okay.  </p>
<p>And thanks to 999, for explaining &#8220;Xmas&#8221; properly.  The &#8220;X&#8221; commonly appears on Orthodox crosses and iconography, in order to represent Christ.  For those well versed in Christianity in all its flavors (or at least in heraldry), they&#8217;d also know that &#8220;X&#8221; is also, a cross in the west - the cross of St. Andrews.  So it&#8217;s not such a bad letter, after all, you see.  </p>
<p>As to Santa Claus, he has grown about as far from St. Nicholas as he could be.  Heck, saying &#8220;Xmas&#8221; is closer to proper Christendom than he is!  </p>
<p>Raised in Orthodox Christianity, I can tell you we really have no Santa Claus.  Never believed in him, never wrote him letters, never cared about him.  We&#8217;re not the ones standing in line to buy a Wii to make sure Junior still believes in a non-existent Jolly Fat Elf who brings presents.  But we have plenty of reminders of the real St. Nicholas about.  He was much more interesting.        </p>
<p>What I&#8217;d like to see is a depiction of the Krampus in a Christmas parade!  Anyone of German ancestry?  In that tradition, he looks like horned devil and whips anyone out of the Jolly Fat Man&#8217;s path!  And he&#8217;d scare you a lot more than the devil the Mexican dancers have&#8230; yep, its not all heaping, tasty stollen in that tradition, either&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: OnWest</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42358</link>
		<dc:creator>OnWest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 12:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW...I hope that this was a lapse of judgement rather than an outright slap at our mainstream traditions. A bit more thought should have been given if this was the former. It would certainly been very appropriate (visually) for a Mardi Gras celebration (even though it might have had no direct connection to that celebration)

It is a perfect example of a CLASH of cultures. Try walking down a street in Bagdad or Mecca and hand out crosses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW&#8230;I hope that this was a lapse of judgement rather than an outright slap at our mainstream traditions. A bit more thought should have been given if this was the former. It would certainly been very appropriate (visually) for a Mardi Gras celebration (even though it might have had no direct connection to that celebration)</p>
<p>It is a perfect example of a CLASH of cultures. Try walking down a street in Bagdad or Mecca and hand out crosses.</p>
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		<title>By: Advocator</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42339</link>
		<dc:creator>Advocator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 05:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42339</guid>
		<description>Were the Horseywomen Police there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Were the Horseywomen Police there?</p>
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		<title>By: John Light</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42336</link>
		<dc:creator>John Light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 04:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42336</guid>
		<description>UnMasMexican said on 2 Dec 2007 at 9:38 am: 
"Thank you to those of you who recognized this display as a traditional Mexican celebration."

THIS from a citizen of the country who gives us Donkey shows!!!  What an ass!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UnMasMexican said on 2 Dec 2007 at 9:38 am:<br />
&#8220;Thank you to those of you who recognized this display as a traditional Mexican celebration.&#8221;</p>
<p>THIS from a citizen of the country who gives us Donkey shows!!!  What an ass!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Lafayette</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42325</link>
		<dc:creator>Lafayette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 03:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42325</guid>
		<description>CoM,
Geez, I wish I could say "I can't believe it", but I unfortunately I can beleive it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CoM,<br />
Geez, I wish I could say &#8220;I can&#8217;t believe it&#8221;, but I unfortunately I can beleive it.</p>
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		<title>By: CitizenofManassas</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42324</link>
		<dc:creator>CitizenofManassas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 03:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/01/satan-joins-the-manassas-christmas-parade/#comment-42324</guid>
		<description>Look what group won 3rd place in the dance category. 

http://www.manassasjm.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=MJM/MGArticle/WPN_BasicArticle&#38;c=MGArticle&#38;cid=1173353710517&#38;path=</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look what group won 3rd place in the dance category. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.manassasjm.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=MJM/MGArticle/WPN_BasicArticle&amp;c=MGArticle&amp;cid=1173353710517&amp;path=" rel="nofollow">http://www.manassasjm.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=MJM/MGArticle/WPN_BasicArticle&amp;c=MGArticle&amp;cid=1173353710517&amp;path=</a></p>
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