Comments on: Another Guilty Illegal Alien http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/ Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 17:45:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: One Voice http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42728 One Voice Tue, 04 Dec 2007 23:34:45 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42728 Greg L - Would you follow up on the woman who was arrested for abusing her children and also an illegal. If she is not deported, it would be an interesting case study to analyze and follow up on - Thanks, Greg L -

Would you follow up on the woman who was arrested for abusing her children and also an illegal. If she is not deported, it would be an interesting case study to analyze and follow up on -

Thanks,

]]> By: mike austin http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42643 mike austin Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:59:51 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42643 Sentence hearing will be held in (I believe) March. I suggest that all concerned citizens write letters and a petition to the CA and Judge asking for a more relative judgement against this perp. Perhaps we can solicit this at the January or February HSM meeting. Ten years (at least) in addition is what I would expect anyone who used a weapon in the commission of a crime to get; I do not think ten years is even close to what this guy should be getting. He personally gave CJ a death sentence! Sentence hearing will be held in (I believe) March.
I suggest that all concerned citizens write letters and a petition to the CA and Judge asking for a more relative judgement against this perp. Perhaps we can solicit this at the January or February HSM meeting.

Ten years (at least) in addition is what I would expect anyone who used a weapon in the commission of a crime to get; I do not think ten years is even close to what this guy should be getting.

He personally gave CJ a death sentence!

]]> By: mike austin http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42640 mike austin Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:49:48 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42640 AWC: You nailed it! AWC: You nailed it!

]]> By: Mama http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42631 Mama Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:13:35 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42631 I don't understand the judicial system. I don't understand why some people get life and some don't....they say there are guidelines... I am so upset about the violent death of my only son, a young man that NEVER got into a fight in his life., a passive young man. I don't have the emotional reserve to go through this ---- I can't change the outcome --- else I would! ALL OF IT!!! I don’t understand the judicial system. I don’t understand why some people get life and some don’t….they say there are guidelines…

I am so upset about the violent death of my only son, a young man that NEVER got into a fight in his life., a passive young man.

I don’t have the emotional reserve to go through this —- I can’t change the outcome — else I would!

ALL OF IT!!!

]]> By: k. o'toole http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42627 k. o'toole Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:58:49 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42627 Another reason to limit/supervise immigration: "CAIR called 'turnstile' for terrorist suspects" - http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59026 Another reason to limit/supervise immigration: “CAIR called ‘turnstile’ for terrorist suspects” -
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59026

]]> By: AWCheney http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42606 AWCheney Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:37:45 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42606 Point of clarification: That gang the white boy liked to pretend he was a part of was actually an Hispanic gang (don't know which one)...so you can understand why he became the goat. I'm sure the prosecutors were well aware of that as well. Point of clarification: That gang the white boy liked to pretend he was a part of was actually an Hispanic gang (don’t know which one)…so you can understand why he became the goat. I’m sure the prosecutors were well aware of that as well.

]]> By: AWCheney http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42603 AWCheney Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:28:58 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42603 Sorry, but I am simply not impressed with the CA office's handling of this. I'm familiar with a case in Fairfax where a young wannabe gang member Caucasian boy (teen) was present when a bunch of his "friends" were involved in a melee with some rival gang members. A gang member was killed and everybody pointed the finger at this boy as the killer. There was evidence to the contrary, but it was more convenient to accept the testimony of known gang bangers out of hand than to accept anything that would interfere with an easy resolution. That boy is now in prison for life. Now, the point of this story is that the prosecutors took the easy way rather than trying to find the truth. It was easier to believe in liars rather than facts. In the case of CJ's murderer, it was easier to give him a relative slap on the wrist rather than what he really deserved. Whatever reasons they're offering (CI) are simply an attempt to justify taking the "path of least resistance." Sorry, but I am simply not impressed with the CA office’s handling of this. I’m familiar with a case in Fairfax where a young wannabe gang member Caucasian boy (teen) was present when a bunch of his “friends” were involved in a melee with some rival gang members. A gang member was killed and everybody pointed the finger at this boy as the killer. There was evidence to the contrary, but it was more convenient to accept the testimony of known gang bangers out of hand than to accept anything that would interfere with an easy resolution. That boy is now in prison for life.

Now, the point of this story is that the prosecutors took the easy way rather than trying to find the truth. It was easier to believe in liars rather than facts. In the case of CJ’s murderer, it was easier to give him a relative slap on the wrist rather than what he really deserved. Whatever reasons they’re offering (CI) are simply an attempt to justify taking the “path of least resistance.”

]]> By: AWCheney http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42600 AWCheney Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:15:18 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42600 Unfortunately Mama, sociopathic gang members actually have an easier time in prison. Many of their fellow members are already there, and they simply assume their usual place in the hierarchy...unless the members are particularly impressed by the crime. In that case, they get a promotion. Unfortunately Mama, sociopathic gang members actually have an easier time in prison. Many of their fellow members are already there, and they simply assume their usual place in the hierarchy…unless the members are particularly impressed by the crime. In that case, they get a promotion.

]]> By: Advocator http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42582 Advocator Tue, 04 Dec 2007 14:20:43 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42582 If there was another recent arrest, possibly it was due to information provided as a result of the plea bargain. As a prosecutor in the Army I was in many situations where I had to agree to reduced sentences in return for the defendant flipping. At any rate, Wanda, our prayers are with you. If there was another recent arrest, possibly it was due to information provided as a result of the plea bargain. As a prosecutor in the Army I was in many situations where I had to agree to reduced sentences in return for the defendant flipping.

At any rate, Wanda, our prayers are with you.

]]> By: Mama http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42580 Mama Tue, 04 Dec 2007 14:06:12 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42580 It was VOLUNTARY MANSLAUGHTER that he plead to...and he did get 10 years for the gang participation -- reduced to 10 years supervised probation after his release from the Pen.... Yes, I agree 10 years is a slap in the face, but I am thankful for the convictions. I know some mothers who lost their kids and never got a conviction. There was another arrest last week in this case! Thank you Det. Moore and Beth Millette for all the hard work! I do hope the judge adds more time on sentencing day!!! Hopefully he won't ever get out...with behaviors like these scum display I believe he'll get his! It was VOLUNTARY MANSLAUGHTER that he plead to…and he did get 10 years for the gang participation — reduced to 10 years supervised probation after his release from the Pen….
Yes, I agree 10 years is a slap in the face, but I
am thankful for the convictions. I know some mothers who lost their kids and never got a conviction.

There was another arrest last week in this case!

Thank you Det. Moore and Beth Millette for all the hard work! I do hope the judge adds more time on sentencing day!!!

Hopefully he won’t ever get out…with behaviors like these scum display I believe he’ll get his!

]]> By: 999 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42568 999 Tue, 04 Dec 2007 13:34:16 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42568 I thought that gang participation added to a sentence upon conviction? Ten years for involuntary manslaughter is a travesty. Where is the additional time for gang participation? Maybe that was plea bargained away too! I thought that gang participation added to a sentence upon conviction? Ten years for involuntary manslaughter is a travesty. Where is the additional time for gang participation? Maybe that was plea bargained away too!

]]> By: Lafayette http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42531 Lafayette Tue, 04 Dec 2007 02:12:04 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42531 Wanda, You and your family are in the thoughts and prayers of many. Your comments about our justice system are true. We must all remember it is the BEST in the world. Wanda,
You and your family are in the thoughts and prayers of many.
Your comments about our justice system are true. We must all remember it is the BEST in the world.

]]> By: redawn http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42529 redawn Tue, 04 Dec 2007 02:03:56 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42529 Mama, Your a strong woman and your son is proud. I will continue to pray for your strength and your right CJ is attached to your mind and IN your heart as you all are in OUR prayers :) Merry Christmas to you and your family. Please find peace that there are those that think of you. Mama,

Your a strong woman and your son is proud. I will continue to pray for your strength and your right CJ is attached to your mind and IN your heart as you all are in OUR prayers :)
Merry Christmas to you and your family. Please find peace that there are those that think of you.

]]> By: Mama http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42528 Mama Tue, 04 Dec 2007 01:58:33 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42528 I really don't know much about politics, but what I know Beth Millette spent the past year of her life working her butt off to put the SOB's behind bars that killed my baby CJ. Please don't condemn her! No amount of time they get will console us. My son was hurt real bad and killed by gang members that are ruthless and have no regard for human life. I want them all to meet "Big Budda" and suffer every day the rest of their lives. I hope they feel the pain and lonlieness my son felt when they took his life away from him and us... and sorry but their mom's can then feel my pain too ... Not a minuet goes by that my son is not attached to my heart and mind. I miss my baby! Unfortunatley, our justice system dosen't always meet our expectations... but I hope that you all will believe that I am not upset with Beth or Paul. I am upset with it all---especially our govt! Thank you for remembering CJ and our family! I really don’t know much about politics, but what I know Beth Millette spent the past year of her life working her butt off to put the SOB’s behind bars that killed my baby CJ. Please don’t condemn her!
No amount of time they get will console us.
My son was hurt real bad and killed by gang members that are ruthless and have no regard for human life.
I want them all to meet “Big Budda” and suffer every day the rest of their lives. I hope they feel the pain and lonlieness my son felt when they took his life away from him and us…
and sorry but their mom’s can then feel my pain too …
Not a minuet goes by that my son is not attached to my heart and mind. I miss my baby!
Unfortunatley, our justice system dosen’t always
meet our expectations… but I hope that you all
will believe that I am not upset with Beth or Paul.
I am upset with it all—especially our govt!
Thank you for remembering CJ and our family!

]]> By: 999 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42510 999 Mon, 03 Dec 2007 23:44:23 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42510 Advocator said on 3 Dec 2007 at 6:07 pm: Maybe the CA cut a deal with him to preserve the good relationship he has with the Hispanic community. Kinda like the same reason Chief Deane gave for his opposition to the Rule of Law Resolution. Kiss their butts in the hopes they MIGHT accept the rule of law and turn in criminals. Don't hold your breath! Advocator said on 3 Dec 2007 at 6:07 pm:
Maybe the CA cut a deal with him to preserve the good relationship he has with the Hispanic community. Kinda like the same reason Chief Deane gave for his opposition to the Rule of Law Resolution.

Kiss their butts in the hopes they MIGHT accept the rule of law and turn in criminals. Don’t hold your breath!

]]> By: Advocator http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42505 Advocator Mon, 03 Dec 2007 23:07:12 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42505 Maybe the CA cut a deal with him to preserve the good relationship he has with the Hispanic community. Kinda like the same reason Chief Deane gave for his opposition to the Rule of Law Resolution. Maybe the CA cut a deal with him to preserve the good relationship he has with the Hispanic community. Kinda like the same reason Chief Deane gave for his opposition to the Rule of Law Resolution.

]]> By: mike austin http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42504 mike austin Mon, 03 Dec 2007 23:06:41 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42504 For anyone who does not know: This admitted MS-13 member / participant is the one who chased, caught and tackeled CJ, and the first to stab CJ. He brutally beat CJ and is directly for the cold blooded murder of CJ. He turned over on, and testified against, the one called "Abnormal" who was convicted last. This person should have been sentenced to death, or at least rot in jail for the rest of his natural life! If you could listen to this individual talk about his own activities, and how he so casually speaks of the attack, the idea of him being ever allowed back into society would cause you to be afraid. I have not spoken out against Mr Ebert previously but this time I must say this is a disasterous mistake. For anyone who does not know:

This admitted MS-13 member / participant is the one who chased, caught and tackeled CJ, and the first to stab CJ. He brutally beat CJ and is directly for the cold blooded murder of CJ.
He turned over on, and testified against, the one called “Abnormal” who was convicted last.
This person should have been sentenced to death, or at least rot in jail for the rest of his natural life!
If you could listen to this individual talk about his own activities, and how he so casually speaks of the attack, the idea of him being ever allowed back into society would cause you to be afraid.

I have not spoken out against Mr Ebert previously but this time I must say this is a disasterous mistake.

]]> By: Riley http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42496 Riley Mon, 03 Dec 2007 22:33:12 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42496 Once again, Ebert's office does something that Ham Sandwich was capable of as well. Once again, Ebert’s office does something that Ham Sandwich was capable of as well.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42484 Anonymous Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:58:55 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42484 ARE THEY GOING TO DEPORT THIS SCUMBAG AFTER HE COMPLETES HIS 10 YEARS PROBATION? Maybe the government will offer him citizenship after his sentence is completed. ARE THEY GOING TO DEPORT THIS SCUMBAG AFTER HE COMPLETES HIS 10 YEARS PROBATION? Maybe the government will offer him citizenship after his sentence is completed.

]]> By: Vigilant1 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42481 Vigilant1 Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:55:06 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/03/another-guilty-illegal-alien/#comment-42481 MS-13 GANG MEMBERS SHOULD NOT REPEAT NOT BE ALLOWED TO PLEA BARGAIN. COMMIT THE CRIME, DO THE FULL TIME! MS-13 GANG MEMBERS SHOULD NOT REPEAT NOT BE ALLOWED TO PLEA BARGAIN. COMMIT THE CRIME, DO THE FULL TIME!

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