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	<title>Comments on: An Interesting Approach To Spanish-Language Signs</title>
	<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/</link>
	<description>Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics.</description>
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		<title>By: Dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42872</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42872</guid>
		<description>UMM,  you are more than welcome.  Thanks for explaining your intent.  And I am sure you understand that there are folks here who see that expression as a threat because of their exposure to the expression being used in other ways.  I think all of us value our friends, family and heritage.  This is a good thing.

To Anonymous who was involved in this discussion.  I have a great deal of respect for you (although I DO wish you would assign yourself a name or number) for being man or woman enough to apologize.  Many of us have a real hard time with doing that.  Those often are not easy words for me.  

~~splash~~peace~~paz~~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UMM,  you are more than welcome.  Thanks for explaining your intent.  And I am sure you understand that there are folks here who see that expression as a threat because of their exposure to the expression being used in other ways.  I think all of us value our friends, family and heritage.  This is a good thing.</p>
<p>To Anonymous who was involved in this discussion.  I have a great deal of respect for you (although I DO wish you would assign yourself a name or number) for being man or woman enough to apologize.  Many of us have a real hard time with doing that.  Those often are not easy words for me.  </p>
<p>~~splash~~peace~~paz~~</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42867</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42867</guid>
		<description>laraza means our race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>laraza means our race.</p>
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		<title>By: UnMasMexican</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42865</link>
		<dc:creator>UnMasMexican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42865</guid>
		<description>Thanks, Dolph. Apology gladly accepted, Anon.

To me la raza is my friends, family, heritage-- we are proud to bring this with us to PWC. That is what the statement was. Thanks for the kindness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Dolph. Apology gladly accepted, Anon.</p>
<p>To me la raza is my friends, family, heritage&#8211; we are proud to bring this with us to PWC. That is what the statement was. Thanks for the kindness.</p>
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		<title>By: freedom</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42814</link>
		<dc:creator>freedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42814</guid>
		<description>I'm with you, Bridgit, it's both frustrating and tedious...I don't like it any more than you do.  Again though, as a result of our government not controlling the border, the Latino/Spanish speaking population continues to grow...and for that reason, businesses find it profitable to cater to the Spanish speaking population.

Is it fair to people who speak other foreign languages, e.g., Korean, Japanese and Chinese?  No, but the businesses aren't interested in fairness, they're interested in making a profit as a result of spending by whomever has the bucks.  If it weren't for the fact that we have so many Spanish only speaking people in this country (and the numbers will only grow, until the illegal border crossing has been stopped) the Spanish signage and the Spanish only receptionists/clerks/cashiers would disappear.

The thing that REALLY gets me though is the enabling of our PWC govt through bilingual government documents (at taxpayer expense) and the premium paid (at taxpayer expense) to new hires who speak Spanish as well as English.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you, Bridgit, it&#8217;s both frustrating and tedious&#8230;I don&#8217;t like it any more than you do.  Again though, as a result of our government not controlling the border, the Latino/Spanish speaking population continues to grow&#8230;and for that reason, businesses find it profitable to cater to the Spanish speaking population.</p>
<p>Is it fair to people who speak other foreign languages, e.g., Korean, Japanese and Chinese?  No, but the businesses aren&#8217;t interested in fairness, they&#8217;re interested in making a profit as a result of spending by whomever has the bucks.  If it weren&#8217;t for the fact that we have so many Spanish only speaking people in this country (and the numbers will only grow, until the illegal border crossing has been stopped) the Spanish signage and the Spanish only receptionists/clerks/cashiers would disappear.</p>
<p>The thing that REALLY gets me though is the enabling of our PWC govt through bilingual government documents (at taxpayer expense) and the premium paid (at taxpayer expense) to new hires who speak Spanish as well as English.</p>
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		<title>By: Bridget</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42781</link>
		<dc:creator>Bridget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 12:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42781</guid>
		<description>In addition to the less than inclusive "Viva La Raza" pronouncement and the "we ARE PWC...accept this or move on" demographic inevitibility dictate made by UnMasMexican, we also got this:

"...the value of a free market and the right of stores to post signage as desired."(Repeating for emphasis: The Right to Post signage as desired.)

http://www.casadice.com/signs/pages/outside_sign019.htm
http://www.casadice.com/signs/pages/outside_sign022.htm
http://www.casadice.com/signs/pages/outside_sign037.htm
http://www.casadice.com/signs/pages/outside_sign039.htm
http://www.casadice.com/signs/pages/outside_sign047.htm
http://www.casadice.com/signs/pages/outside_sign055.htm

...8...7...6...Waiting for the fine print exclusionary clauses to arrive from UMM ... after a thorough review by lawyers, the Human Rights Commission and vote by the Council of LA RAZA.

I avoid any business that advertises "Se habla Espanol" for the simple reason that, more often than not, non-English speakers, or those with very limited English, have been hired to work behind the counter. 

 If I can't understand them, nor they me - it can make business transactions very tedious. It is one thing to be in a foreign land, knowing full well that the native language must used if one wants service .

Albeit, encountering difficulty in your own homeland becouse you don't speak a foreigh language - and being treated like an intrusive interloper while at home  is for the birds. Whether over the phone, over the counter or in government offices... nobody enjoys being treated like a stranger, an interloper, in their own land.

I once went to a dental office with a Se Habla sign. My first clue should have been the rude receptionist who saw fit to respond to my "Hello, how are you, my name is..." with a glare. She greated every Latino patient with a warm and wordy greeting,  while I had recieved a curt, unsmiling "You have appointment?" followed by "Now wait". 

Once in the chair, the hygienist was unable to answer a few simply questions regarding the treatment I had requested ... the very treatment that he was preparing me for. 

The new dentist was just fine ... but I never went back. A short , polite note explaining my position was sufficient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to the less than inclusive &#8220;Viva La Raza&#8221; pronouncement and the &#8220;we ARE PWC&#8230;accept this or move on&#8221; demographic inevitibility dictate made by UnMasMexican, we also got this:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;the value of a free market and the right of stores to post signage as desired.&#8221;(Repeating for emphasis: The Right to Post signage as desired.)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.casadice.com/signs/pages/outside_sign019.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.casadice.com/signs/pages/outside_sign019.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://www.casadice.com/signs/pages/outside_sign022.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.casadice.com/signs/pages/outside_sign022.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://www.casadice.com/signs/pages/outside_sign037.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.casadice.com/signs/pages/outside_sign037.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://www.casadice.com/signs/pages/outside_sign039.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.casadice.com/signs/pages/outside_sign039.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://www.casadice.com/signs/pages/outside_sign047.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.casadice.com/signs/pages/outside_sign047.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://www.casadice.com/signs/pages/outside_sign055.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.casadice.com/signs/pages/outside_sign055.htm</a></p>
<p>&#8230;8&#8230;7&#8230;6&#8230;Waiting for the fine print exclusionary clauses to arrive from UMM &#8230; after a thorough review by lawyers, the Human Rights Commission and vote by the Council of LA RAZA.</p>
<p>I avoid any business that advertises &#8220;Se habla Espanol&#8221; for the simple reason that, more often than not, non-English speakers, or those with very limited English, have been hired to work behind the counter. </p>
<p> If I can&#8217;t understand them, nor they me - it can make business transactions very tedious. It is one thing to be in a foreign land, knowing full well that the native language must used if one wants service .</p>
<p>Albeit, encountering difficulty in your own homeland becouse you don&#8217;t speak a foreigh language - and being treated like an intrusive interloper while at home  is for the birds. Whether over the phone, over the counter or in government offices&#8230; nobody enjoys being treated like a stranger, an interloper, in their own land.</p>
<p>I once went to a dental office with a Se Habla sign. My first clue should have been the rude receptionist who saw fit to respond to my &#8220;Hello, how are you, my name is&#8230;&#8221; with a glare. She greated every Latino patient with a warm and wordy greeting,  while I had recieved a curt, unsmiling &#8220;You have appointment?&#8221; followed by &#8220;Now wait&#8221;. </p>
<p>Once in the chair, the hygienist was unable to answer a few simply questions regarding the treatment I had requested &#8230; the very treatment that he was preparing me for. </p>
<p>The new dentist was just fine &#8230; but I never went back. A short , polite note explaining my position was sufficient.</p>
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		<title>By: freedom</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42778</link>
		<dc:creator>freedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 10:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42778</guid>
		<description>Tobias Jodter said ... "The Old Centreville Crossing shopping center has 17 Korean owned businesses. And a lot of them don’t have any English signs.
Translation = Not Korean? Not Welcome!"

I certainly have not a problem with shops/stores established for a particular ethnic group, whether Korean, Latino, Asian or whatever.  I am sure that specialty items that they want, particularly food items, are not available in large, mainstream stores.  Likewise, I am sure that if you need to purchase items that they carry, they would be happy to fill that need for you.

Further, retail is a very competitive business, and the large, mainstream stores...any stores, for that matter...can and will attempt to attract business.  Certainly, if I owned a business, and were attempting to make a profit, I'd want to sell to whomever would buy -- that's business -- and I'd certainly have to weigh my marketing efforts to determine if those efforts increased or decreased my customers and the business bottom-line.

When some mainstream stores advertise PRIMARILY to attract the Latino community, it sure is telling as to what's going on in our society though, isn't it?  For example, there is a CVS pharmacy in Woodbridge that has the normal signs over each aisle that assist shoppers in finding merchandise items -- these signs are in Spanish on one side and English on the other.  However, upon entering the store, it's the Spanish that you see.  If you read only English, you must go to the back of the store and turn around, facing the front to see the aisle markers in English.  Wonder why this is?  CVS has made a business decision and while it's inconvenient for me, and I'll go elsewhere, it's their business decision...and a decision that they are and should be entitled to make.

Businesses don't control immigration...they're obviously out to make money...and if they don't, they won't remain in business for long.   

Let's face it, if we, as English speaking people, wish not to become the minority in this country, the burden of responsibility is ours...yours and mine...to petition and petition again, the government to effectively control immigration, to ensure our sovereignty, and to scrap (for once and for all) the concept of a North American Union.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tobias Jodter said &#8230; &#8220;The Old Centreville Crossing shopping center has 17 Korean owned businesses. And a lot of them don’t have any English signs.<br />
Translation = Not Korean? Not Welcome!&#8221;</p>
<p>I certainly have not a problem with shops/stores established for a particular ethnic group, whether Korean, Latino, Asian or whatever.  I am sure that specialty items that they want, particularly food items, are not available in large, mainstream stores.  Likewise, I am sure that if you need to purchase items that they carry, they would be happy to fill that need for you.</p>
<p>Further, retail is a very competitive business, and the large, mainstream stores&#8230;any stores, for that matter&#8230;can and will attempt to attract business.  Certainly, if I owned a business, and were attempting to make a profit, I&#8217;d want to sell to whomever would buy &#8212; that&#8217;s business &#8212; and I&#8217;d certainly have to weigh my marketing efforts to determine if those efforts increased or decreased my customers and the business bottom-line.</p>
<p>When some mainstream stores advertise PRIMARILY to attract the Latino community, it sure is telling as to what&#8217;s going on in our society though, isn&#8217;t it?  For example, there is a CVS pharmacy in Woodbridge that has the normal signs over each aisle that assist shoppers in finding merchandise items &#8212; these signs are in Spanish on one side and English on the other.  However, upon entering the store, it&#8217;s the Spanish that you see.  If you read only English, you must go to the back of the store and turn around, facing the front to see the aisle markers in English.  Wonder why this is?  CVS has made a business decision and while it&#8217;s inconvenient for me, and I&#8217;ll go elsewhere, it&#8217;s their business decision&#8230;and a decision that they are and should be entitled to make.</p>
<p>Businesses don&#8217;t control immigration&#8230;they&#8217;re obviously out to make money&#8230;and if they don&#8217;t, they won&#8217;t remain in business for long.   </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it, if we, as English speaking people, wish not to become the minority in this country, the burden of responsibility is ours&#8230;yours and mine&#8230;to petition and petition again, the government to effectively control immigration, to ensure our sovereignty, and to scrap (for once and for all) the concept of a North American Union.</p>
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		<title>By: Lafayette</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42770</link>
		<dc:creator>Lafayette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 05:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42770</guid>
		<description>Anonymous said on 4 Dec 2007 at 11:38 pm: 
I find your apology admirable, and feel certain you won't repeat this evening's mishap. 
Please, pick a screen name or anon-# or letter. The "anon's" can get plentiful at the sametime, and then everyone gets on the "naughty list".
**A "GOLD STAR" for Dolph with her quick catch, and setting the record straight. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous said on 4 Dec 2007 at 11:38 pm:<br />
I find your apology admirable, and feel certain you won&#8217;t repeat this evening&#8217;s mishap.<br />
Please, pick a screen name or anon-# or letter. The &#8220;anon&#8217;s&#8221; can get plentiful at the sametime, and then everyone gets on the &#8220;naughty list&#8221;.<br />
**A &#8220;GOLD STAR&#8221; for Dolph with her quick catch, and setting the record straight. <img src='http://www.bvbl.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42769</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 04:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42769</guid>
		<description>Dolph said on 4 Dec 2007 at 11:02 pm: 
To all the anonymouses
*************************
I am the one guilty of making the dog excrement statement and I wholeheartedly appologize to UnMasMexican.  I was so irritated by the statement  "we are PWC" and the La Raza comment that I spoke before I thought.  Again, please accept my appology and be assured that there will be no further statements of that kind by me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dolph said on 4 Dec 2007 at 11:02 pm:<br />
To all the anonymouses<br />
*************************<br />
I am the one guilty of making the dog excrement statement and I wholeheartedly appologize to UnMasMexican.  I was so irritated by the statement  &#8220;we are PWC&#8221; and the La Raza comment that I spoke before I thought.  Again, please accept my appology and be assured that there will be no further statements of that kind by me.</p>
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		<title>By: Dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42767</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 04:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42767</guid>
		<description>To all the anonymouses

UnMasMexican did not make the dog feces remark.  The original comment has been removed from the blog.  I snagged it before it poofed.  I am looking at it.  It was added on to UMM's comment.  While I often do not agree with UnMasMexican, he is innocent on this one.  

~~splash~~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all the anonymouses</p>
<p>UnMasMexican did not make the dog feces remark.  The original comment has been removed from the blog.  I snagged it before it poofed.  I am looking at it.  It was added on to UMM&#8217;s comment.  While I often do not agree with UnMasMexican, he is innocent on this one.  </p>
<p>~~splash~~</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42760</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 02:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42760</guid>
		<description>UnMasMexican said on 4 Dec 2007 at 5:50 pm: LA RAZA COME EXCREMENTOS DE PERRO!
If the translation is correct that is: laraza EAT DOG'S FECES!  
Say that and you have to ask youself why people feel the way they do.    To you: bueno adiós bebé</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UnMasMexican said on 4 Dec 2007 at 5:50 pm: LA RAZA COME EXCREMENTOS DE PERRO!<br />
If the translation is correct that is: laraza EAT DOG&#8217;S FECES!<br />
Say that and you have to ask youself why people feel the way they do.    To you: bueno adiós bebé</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42755</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 02:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UnMasMexican said on 4 Dec 2007 at 5:50 pm: 

We ARE PWC…..accept this or move on…


NEVER HAS BEEN, NEVER WILL BE!   LA RAZA COME EXCREMENTOS DE PERRO!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UnMasMexican said on 4 Dec 2007 at 5:50 pm: </p>
<p>We ARE PWC…..accept this or move on…</p>
<p>NEVER HAS BEEN, NEVER WILL BE!   LA RAZA COME EXCREMENTOS DE PERRO!</p>
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		<title>By: West Gate Witch</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42752</link>
		<dc:creator>West Gate Witch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 01:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42752</guid>
		<description>I better check and make sure nobody's stolen my broom. 
I already have a couple of suspects if it's gone. :)
'tis the season..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I better check and make sure nobody&#8217;s stolen my broom.<br />
I already have a couple of suspects if it&#8217;s gone. <img src='http://www.bvbl.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
&#8217;tis the season..</p>
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		<title>By: Tobias Jodter</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42748</link>
		<dc:creator>Tobias Jodter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 01:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42748</guid>
		<description>“I believe that Korean is the second largest non-english language in PWC/Manassas. See any signs in Korean anywhere anyone????”

Ever been to Centreville?  Many businesses in Centreville have their signs up in ONLY Korean.  The Old Centreville Crossing shopping center has 17 Korean owned businesses.  And a lot of them don't have any English signs.  

Translation = Not Korean?  Not Welcome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I believe that Korean is the second largest non-english language in PWC/Manassas. See any signs in Korean anywhere anyone????”</p>
<p>Ever been to Centreville?  Many businesses in Centreville have their signs up in ONLY Korean.  The Old Centreville Crossing shopping center has 17 Korean owned businesses.  And a lot of them don&#8217;t have any English signs.  </p>
<p>Translation = Not Korean?  Not Welcome!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42745</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 01:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I believe that Korean is the second largest non-english language in PWC/Manassas. See any signs in Korean anywhere anyone????"

I don't have the same linguistic hang ups as many on here, except this one... no other ethnic or immigrant group is provided the level of assistance that the Latino community is provided.  Most schools in Northern Virginia easily have dozens of languages spoken at home, many with parents who speak little or no English.  But only the Spanish community is provided with correspondence and conference translation.  Vietnamese, Portugese, Korean, eastern European languages... the list goes on, but only Spanish speakers are provided these services in this area and it is patently unfair to those immigrants who don't speak Spanish.  I don't have a problem with Spanish language signs, translation, and so on - just provide them for everyone.  If you aren't willing to do that, then no one group should be given such an advantage.  It should be that simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I believe that Korean is the second largest non-english language in PWC/Manassas. See any signs in Korean anywhere anyone????&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have the same linguistic hang ups as many on here, except this one&#8230; no other ethnic or immigrant group is provided the level of assistance that the Latino community is provided.  Most schools in Northern Virginia easily have dozens of languages spoken at home, many with parents who speak little or no English.  But only the Spanish community is provided with correspondence and conference translation.  Vietnamese, Portugese, Korean, eastern European languages&#8230; the list goes on, but only Spanish speakers are provided these services in this area and it is patently unfair to those immigrants who don&#8217;t speak Spanish.  I don&#8217;t have a problem with Spanish language signs, translation, and so on - just provide them for everyone.  If you aren&#8217;t willing to do that, then no one group should be given such an advantage.  It should be that simple.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42733</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 23:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the grand scheme of things this is no big deal.  So what?  There are bigger issues with the illegal problem that need to be addressed.   Frank Wolfe has done nothing on the problem.  Where are all the questions for him?    Oh yeah,   Goober (Cory) and Gomer (Stirrup), that resoultion, it sure has addressed the problem.  None at the old folks home, but they are still at the Coverstone 7-11.  Been to an emergency room lately?  They're still there.  The resouloution was nothing but window dressing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the grand scheme of things this is no big deal.  So what?  There are bigger issues with the illegal problem that need to be addressed.   Frank Wolfe has done nothing on the problem.  Where are all the questions for him?    Oh yeah,   Goober (Cory) and Gomer (Stirrup), that resoultion, it sure has addressed the problem.  None at the old folks home, but they are still at the Coverstone 7-11.  Been to an emergency room lately?  They&#8217;re still there.  The resouloution was nothing but window dressing.</p>
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		<title>By: Dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42730</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 23:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42730</guid>
		<description>Patty, (@2.56 pm)

Earlier I posted   ‘I am delighted to see that Lowes and Home Depot are at least sensitive to one cultural group….’ as a lead in to the rest of my paragraph.  

Surely you recognized this as sarcasm?  What was my main point?  My point had nothing to do with signs and everything to do with how women are treated in Lowes and Home Depot.  

Actually you have no clue what I know or don’t know about retail, or what my family members do for a living.  

I would be more willing to listen to your point of view if the social skills were a little less abrasive.  Starting off an opinion statement with ‘I know more than you do’ is not the way to get your point across.  That big OFF switch in the sky gets activated.  I don’t know why you feel I have an opinion on signs.  I have not stated any opinion other than I don’t really care.  Now tell me why you had to go head to head with me over something I never said or even implied?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty, (@2.56 pm)</p>
<p>Earlier I posted   ‘I am delighted to see that Lowes and Home Depot are at least sensitive to one cultural group….’ as a lead in to the rest of my paragraph.  </p>
<p>Surely you recognized this as sarcasm?  What was my main point?  My point had nothing to do with signs and everything to do with how women are treated in Lowes and Home Depot.  </p>
<p>Actually you have no clue what I know or don’t know about retail, or what my family members do for a living.  </p>
<p>I would be more willing to listen to your point of view if the social skills were a little less abrasive.  Starting off an opinion statement with ‘I know more than you do’ is not the way to get your point across.  That big OFF switch in the sky gets activated.  I don’t know why you feel I have an opinion on signs.  I have not stated any opinion other than I don’t really care.  Now tell me why you had to go head to head with me over something I never said or even implied?</p>
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		<title>By: One Voice</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42724</link>
		<dc:creator>One Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42724</guid>
		<description>UnMasMexican 

Would you respond to my 5:51 post?  I would be interested in your opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UnMasMexican </p>
<p>Would you respond to my 5:51 post?  I would be interested in your opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: One Voice</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42722</link>
		<dc:creator>One Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42722</guid>
		<description>PS I had the same experience in Mexico. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS I had the same experience in Mexico. <img src='http://www.bvbl.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: One Voice</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42721</link>
		<dc:creator>One Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Lowe's.  I don't like that they put up signs for non-english speaking customers but wouldn't consider hiring them, particularly at the higher levels.  I don't think non-english signs are helping anyone,  I think they are enabling.

After spending time in Europe, I learned the word "next" in about six languages.  That's what they said when they found out I only spoke English.  The instant I attempted the local language, smiles broke out and everyone fell over backwards.  If I brought my child to Italy, I'd send him shopping every day and put him in a classroom that only spoke Italian so he would learn faster.  I'd also speak only Italian at certain times of the day.  

Doesn't anyone agree that encouraging adaptation to English is better for the children to suceed?  That needs to begin at home just like every other aspect of a childs education.  Becoming bi-lingual is a good thing.  

WHAT is the big deal?  I don't think we should be mean about it; I think we should be encouraging about it.  There is a difference.

Sigh..... the children, the children....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Lowe&#8217;s.  I don&#8217;t like that they put up signs for non-english speaking customers but wouldn&#8217;t consider hiring them, particularly at the higher levels.  I don&#8217;t think non-english signs are helping anyone,  I think they are enabling.</p>
<p>After spending time in Europe, I learned the word &#8220;next&#8221; in about six languages.  That&#8217;s what they said when they found out I only spoke English.  The instant I attempted the local language, smiles broke out and everyone fell over backwards.  If I brought my child to Italy, I&#8217;d send him shopping every day and put him in a classroom that only spoke Italian so he would learn faster.  I&#8217;d also speak only Italian at certain times of the day.  </p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t anyone agree that encouraging adaptation to English is better for the children to suceed?  That needs to begin at home just like every other aspect of a childs education.  Becoming bi-lingual is a good thing.  </p>
<p>WHAT is the big deal?  I don&#8217;t think we should be mean about it; I think we should be encouraging about it.  There is a difference.</p>
<p>Sigh&#8230;.. the children, the children&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: UnMasMexican</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42720</link>
		<dc:creator>UnMasMexican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/04/an-interesting-approach-to-spanish-language-signs/#comment-42720</guid>
		<description>I will encourage my friends to shop a las tiendas that respond to the needs of ALL Americans, including Hispanics as people have racially charged this issue.

gracias tot hose of you who see the value of a free market and the right of stores to post signage as desired. Of course they are catering to recent immigrants, many just beginning to learn English. We ARE PWC.....accept this or move on...

Viva la raza!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will encourage my friends to shop a las tiendas that respond to the needs of ALL Americans, including Hispanics as people have racially charged this issue.</p>
<p>gracias tot hose of you who see the value of a free market and the right of stores to post signage as desired. Of course they are catering to recent immigrants, many just beginning to learn English. We ARE PWC&#8230;..accept this or move on&#8230;</p>
<p>Viva la raza!</p>
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