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	<title>Comments on: MJM: Move Along, Nothing To See Here</title>
	<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/06/mjm-move-along-nothing-to-see-here/</link>
	<description>Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/06/mjm-move-along-nothing-to-see-here/#comment-44057</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/06/mjm-move-along-nothing-to-see-here/#comment-44057</guid>
		<description>Amen!</description>
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		<title>By: The Patriot (Got E-Verify?)</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/06/mjm-move-along-nothing-to-see-here/#comment-43599</link>
		<dc:creator>The Patriot (Got E-Verify?)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/06/mjm-move-along-nothing-to-see-here/#comment-43599</guid>
		<description>The only thing that is NOT negotiable is....Christmas is ALL about Jesus Christ and our salvation through HIM only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing that is NOT negotiable is&#8230;.Christmas is ALL about Jesus Christ and our salvation through HIM only.</p>
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		<title>By: The Patriot (Got E-Verify?)</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/06/mjm-move-along-nothing-to-see-here/#comment-43598</link>
		<dc:creator>The Patriot (Got E-Verify?)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes...Michael....we could call it a "melting pot". What a concept!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes&#8230;Michael&#8230;.we could call it a &#8220;melting pot&#8221;. What a concept!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/06/mjm-move-along-nothing-to-see-here/#comment-43578</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 04:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/06/mjm-move-along-nothing-to-see-here/#comment-43578</guid>
		<description>Intellectual Flash! What if we just believed in an American Christmas that included traditional Christmas concepts and invited people of all nations to join us in our culture and ceremony if they want to live in harmony in our nation and not remain in theirs.  What if we just all speak the same language so we can understand each other, sing together without sounding like a drunken pirate orgy and miracle of miracles, not see any of us as other than human individuals, blind to gender, race, religion and ethnic group?

I'm dreaming of a homgenous blended society for Christmas, just like the one I used to know...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intellectual Flash! What if we just believed in an American Christmas that included traditional Christmas concepts and invited people of all nations to join us in our culture and ceremony if they want to live in harmony in our nation and not remain in theirs.  What if we just all speak the same language so we can understand each other, sing together without sounding like a drunken pirate orgy and miracle of miracles, not see any of us as other than human individuals, blind to gender, race, religion and ethnic group?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m dreaming of a homgenous blended society for Christmas, just like the one I used to know&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/06/mjm-move-along-nothing-to-see-here/#comment-43577</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 04:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/06/mjm-move-along-nothing-to-see-here/#comment-43577</guid>
		<description>The history of Christmas! My wouldn't that be an interesting truth if people would just research it and learn what it was really like to celebrate Christmas in the 2nd, 3rd, 6th, 10th, 11th, 14th and 17th Century?

I think you would find the different church doctrines through-out history radically differing in how it should legally be allowed to be celebrated. Anyone not doing so correctly would be punished in some cases by death...

Let's see, one well entrenched church of dubious history (lots of cruelty and bloodshed in its history) would prohibit all non-doctrinal believers from attending any other church for Christmas Cclebration  nor allow any other doctrine to be prectices other than their own. Sound familiar to some modern legalistic, full of hate and angry Christians who do not follow a doctrine of love, kindness and mercy?  These are the same religious people who are the most likely to get into politics (just like the inquisition church leaders?) because of their intense anger that they cannot control the rest of society and force them to follow their own doctrinal beliefs as "law".  

The popes of history, would demand the poor pay taxes to the King, and the Medici family be allowed to continue to steal from the poor to feed the rich.

The cardinals of history would demand you be punished by burning at the stake if you celebrated with a TREE,  an ornament other than a cross, a yule log, if you drank egg-nog, if you believed in Santa Clause as a saint not ordained by the church (St Nicolas was never pictured in red and white robs, or as having raindeer or living at the north pole,) my, my to believe in such fantasy would be blasphemous in the 14th Century.

The dark ages would still be dark...if some common sense had not prevailed

I can go on about the ignorance and persecution of the doctrine of men of these churchs for what seem like benign modern cultural practices. But let's make sure we include ALL PEOPLE and ALL BELIEFs in the Modern Diversity Culture, lest we offend any small minority.

Why let's all worship church appointed idols to pray to for Christmas.

Better, we could analyze what kind of Christmas we might have if Diversity and Inclusion gets a foothold in our society.

All beliefs and belief systems MUST be equally represented as a Christmas concept, including the Wiccan worship practice of slaughtering living things in the forest and predicting the welfare of the society by putting entrails on stakes and "reading" the meaning of them. That needs to be in a Christmas float so we can understand why we need to wear different "Shoes" for Christmas.

All people must have equal outcomes for christmas presents, every rich person must make sure that they get no more presents than the very poorest person. Each person of any ethnic group is to invite every other ethnic group to live in their home for free over the Holiday, and not pay for any of it, unless of course you are a member of a majority and then you must pay for everything or risk being called a racist.


We must have equal representation of all languages spoken by Santa Clause. Every word Santa Clause Speaks must rotate to a different language, so we are all getting our fairshare of the christmas cookie and HO, HO, HO spoken so only we can understand it.

I can go on...

What a wonderful Christmas!  I'm dreaming of a White, Black, Yellow, Red, Brown, Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Buddist Christmas just like the one I used to know....

All in the name of some social engineering concept like diversity and inclusion created by the idiots of our 1970's social engineering colleges.

Yes sir, that was a Great Christmas parade in Manassas.  I'll be sure and have my kids there next year!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The history of Christmas! My wouldn&#8217;t that be an interesting truth if people would just research it and learn what it was really like to celebrate Christmas in the 2nd, 3rd, 6th, 10th, 11th, 14th and 17th Century?</p>
<p>I think you would find the different church doctrines through-out history radically differing in how it should legally be allowed to be celebrated. Anyone not doing so correctly would be punished in some cases by death&#8230;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see, one well entrenched church of dubious history (lots of cruelty and bloodshed in its history) would prohibit all non-doctrinal believers from attending any other church for Christmas Cclebration  nor allow any other doctrine to be prectices other than their own. Sound familiar to some modern legalistic, full of hate and angry Christians who do not follow a doctrine of love, kindness and mercy?  These are the same religious people who are the most likely to get into politics (just like the inquisition church leaders?) because of their intense anger that they cannot control the rest of society and force them to follow their own doctrinal beliefs as &#8220;law&#8221;.  </p>
<p>The popes of history, would demand the poor pay taxes to the King, and the Medici family be allowed to continue to steal from the poor to feed the rich.</p>
<p>The cardinals of history would demand you be punished by burning at the stake if you celebrated with a TREE,  an ornament other than a cross, a yule log, if you drank egg-nog, if you believed in Santa Clause as a saint not ordained by the church (St Nicolas was never pictured in red and white robs, or as having raindeer or living at the north pole,) my, my to believe in such fantasy would be blasphemous in the 14th Century.</p>
<p>The dark ages would still be dark&#8230;if some common sense had not prevailed</p>
<p>I can go on about the ignorance and persecution of the doctrine of men of these churchs for what seem like benign modern cultural practices. But let&#8217;s make sure we include ALL PEOPLE and ALL BELIEFs in the Modern Diversity Culture, lest we offend any small minority.</p>
<p>Why let&#8217;s all worship church appointed idols to pray to for Christmas.</p>
<p>Better, we could analyze what kind of Christmas we might have if Diversity and Inclusion gets a foothold in our society.</p>
<p>All beliefs and belief systems MUST be equally represented as a Christmas concept, including the Wiccan worship practice of slaughtering living things in the forest and predicting the welfare of the society by putting entrails on stakes and &#8220;reading&#8221; the meaning of them. That needs to be in a Christmas float so we can understand why we need to wear different &#8220;Shoes&#8221; for Christmas.</p>
<p>All people must have equal outcomes for christmas presents, every rich person must make sure that they get no more presents than the very poorest person. Each person of any ethnic group is to invite every other ethnic group to live in their home for free over the Holiday, and not pay for any of it, unless of course you are a member of a majority and then you must pay for everything or risk being called a racist.</p>
<p>We must have equal representation of all languages spoken by Santa Clause. Every word Santa Clause Speaks must rotate to a different language, so we are all getting our fairshare of the christmas cookie and HO, HO, HO spoken so only we can understand it.</p>
<p>I can go on&#8230;</p>
<p>What a wonderful Christmas!  I&#8217;m dreaming of a White, Black, Yellow, Red, Brown, Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Buddist Christmas just like the one I used to know&#8230;.</p>
<p>All in the name of some social engineering concept like diversity and inclusion created by the idiots of our 1970&#8217;s social engineering colleges.</p>
<p>Yes sir, that was a Great Christmas parade in Manassas.  I&#8217;ll be sure and have my kids there next year!</p>
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		<title>By: Lafayette</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/06/mjm-move-along-nothing-to-see-here/#comment-43524</link>
		<dc:creator>Lafayette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Patriot (Got E-Verify),
Wow! Yourself. Where the heck have you been?
Mr. Smalls-Patriot Temp has been doing a bang up job in your absense.  Welcome back, and MERRY CHRISTMAS!!
Was this your first post since the great return? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Patriot (Got E-Verify),<br />
Wow! Yourself. Where the heck have you been?<br />
Mr. Smalls-Patriot Temp has been doing a bang up job in your absense.  Welcome back, and MERRY CHRISTMAS!!<br />
Was this your first post since the great return? <img src='http://www.bvbl.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: The Patriot (Got E-Verify)</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/06/mjm-move-along-nothing-to-see-here/#comment-43520</link>
		<dc:creator>The Patriot (Got E-Verify)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/06/mjm-move-along-nothing-to-see-here/#comment-43520</guid>
		<description>WOW! What nonsense! We need a Help Save Christmas now!</description>
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		<title>By: Lafayette(Mistletoe for Dec.)</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/06/mjm-move-along-nothing-to-see-here/#comment-43491</link>
		<dc:creator>Lafayette(Mistletoe for Dec.)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/06/mjm-move-along-nothing-to-see-here/#comment-43491</guid>
		<description>Here's a great article of ideas one can help during the Christmas season.


Volunteers needed to help gift wrap
By MARY FOLEY
For the Potomac News
Monday, December 10, 2007


Good morning Prince William. I can hardly believe but here it is just two weeks away to Christmas and I know I just talked about The Un-Trim-A Tree Holiday Gift program for needy kids last week but I still need your help.

I have several hundred kids waiting to be matched with a donor willing to purchase them two gifts off their wish list valued at $20 each.

I'm using the term several hundred pretty loosely because actually in our 19-year history of this wonderful program we've never had so many kids waiting for donors at this late date.

As you recall we receive the names and wishes of the children from our partners in the community including all three Department of Social Services, Securing Emergency Resources Through Volunteer Efforts Inc., Action in the Community Through Service, Head Start and the Resource Mothers program.

Each one of these entities qualifies the family; we check for duplication then match the child to a donor.

I must say of the several thousand wishes I have input in the computer it continues to be the year of Barbie, Bratz, Transformers, board games, Legos and "High School Musical." Some things never change and that's a really good thing.

If you can spare a little time and resources, we have a kid waiting for you. Please call Diane at 703-369-5292, Ext. 207, or simply download the donor form off our Web site, volunteerprincewil liam.org, and fax it in.

Thank you so much. The wonderful folks at the Manassas Mall Management office are also a drop-off point if you just want to give a little something to the Santa shop.

Those wonderful folks at the American Red Cross are looking for a couple of early birds to register the walkers at Manassas Mall on Monday through Friday from 8 to 9:30 a.m. It's a great way to get out early, meet some really neat people and have fun. Please call Linda at 703-368-4511, Ext. 223, to sign up for a particular day.

SERVE needs a couple of volunteers to help next Monday, Dec. 17, from 7 to 9 p.m. in the Secret Santa Shop. This special shop is for the shelter kids to go in and select gifts for their siblings and parents. Come share the holiday spirit for a couple of hours by calling Jan at 703-367-6742.

And all you teens, please don't forget about the easiest way to help out a great organization in a positive way is by volunteering with Literacy Volunteers of America to wrap presents at the Manassas Barnes and Noble store. Please call 703-670-5702 for specific dates and times.

And last but not least, this is a test of your sense of humor -- did you have enough warm supplies for last week's little snow clipper? Please take a few moments to prepare for driving in bad weather and icy roads and also preparing your household for power outages. Please visit ready.gov for lots of good information.

If you are looking for other opportunities, please don't forget to call my wonderful team at the Voluntary Action Center. Diane can help senior volunteers with Retired and Senior Volunteer (RSVP) opportunities at 703-369-5292, Ext. 207; Shelley can help with 1-800 volunteer opportunities at 703-369-5292, Ext. 201; Sue can help you with Medical Reserve opportunities available in Disaster Preparedness at 703-369-5292, Ext. 204; and Bonnie can help you with all the other many opportunities available in Disaster Preparedness at 703-369-5292, Ext. 202. Or please don't forget our Web site at volunteer princewilliam.org.

Thanks so much for all you do in our community. Until next week, please stay safe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a great article of ideas one can help during the Christmas season.</p>
<p>Volunteers needed to help gift wrap<br />
By MARY FOLEY<br />
For the Potomac News<br />
Monday, December 10, 2007</p>
<p>Good morning Prince William. I can hardly believe but here it is just two weeks away to Christmas and I know I just talked about The Un-Trim-A Tree Holiday Gift program for needy kids last week but I still need your help.</p>
<p>I have several hundred kids waiting to be matched with a donor willing to purchase them two gifts off their wish list valued at $20 each.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m using the term several hundred pretty loosely because actually in our 19-year history of this wonderful program we&#8217;ve never had so many kids waiting for donors at this late date.</p>
<p>As you recall we receive the names and wishes of the children from our partners in the community including all three Department of Social Services, Securing Emergency Resources Through Volunteer Efforts Inc., Action in the Community Through Service, Head Start and the Resource Mothers program.</p>
<p>Each one of these entities qualifies the family; we check for duplication then match the child to a donor.</p>
<p>I must say of the several thousand wishes I have input in the computer it continues to be the year of Barbie, Bratz, Transformers, board games, Legos and &#8220;High School Musical.&#8221; Some things never change and that&#8217;s a really good thing.</p>
<p>If you can spare a little time and resources, we have a kid waiting for you. Please call Diane at 703-369-5292, Ext. 207, or simply download the donor form off our Web site, volunteerprincewil liam.org, and fax it in.</p>
<p>Thank you so much. The wonderful folks at the Manassas Mall Management office are also a drop-off point if you just want to give a little something to the Santa shop.</p>
<p>Those wonderful folks at the American Red Cross are looking for a couple of early birds to register the walkers at Manassas Mall on Monday through Friday from 8 to 9:30 a.m. It&#8217;s a great way to get out early, meet some really neat people and have fun. Please call Linda at 703-368-4511, Ext. 223, to sign up for a particular day.</p>
<p>SERVE needs a couple of volunteers to help next Monday, Dec. 17, from 7 to 9 p.m. in the Secret Santa Shop. This special shop is for the shelter kids to go in and select gifts for their siblings and parents. Come share the holiday spirit for a couple of hours by calling Jan at 703-367-6742.</p>
<p>And all you teens, please don&#8217;t forget about the easiest way to help out a great organization in a positive way is by volunteering with Literacy Volunteers of America to wrap presents at the Manassas Barnes and Noble store. Please call 703-670-5702 for specific dates and times.</p>
<p>And last but not least, this is a test of your sense of humor &#8212; did you have enough warm supplies for last week&#8217;s little snow clipper? Please take a few moments to prepare for driving in bad weather and icy roads and also preparing your household for power outages. Please visit ready.gov for lots of good information.</p>
<p>If you are looking for other opportunities, please don&#8217;t forget to call my wonderful team at the Voluntary Action Center. Diane can help senior volunteers with Retired and Senior Volunteer (RSVP) opportunities at 703-369-5292, Ext. 207; Shelley can help with 1-800 volunteer opportunities at 703-369-5292, Ext. 201; Sue can help you with Medical Reserve opportunities available in Disaster Preparedness at 703-369-5292, Ext. 204; and Bonnie can help you with all the other many opportunities available in Disaster Preparedness at 703-369-5292, Ext. 202. Or please don&#8217;t forget our Web site at volunteer princewilliam.org.</p>
<p>Thanks so much for all you do in our community. Until next week, please stay safe.</p>
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		<title>By: ateacher</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/06/mjm-move-along-nothing-to-see-here/#comment-43369</link>
		<dc:creator>ateacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 03:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suggest all of you go out to Borders et al and buy the book by Tomie De Paola called the legend of the posada.  Learn a bit about how the Catholic church melds with indio traditions, notice in the ilustrations that the devil follows Mary and Joseph....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suggest all of you go out to Borders et al and buy the book by Tomie De Paola called the legend of the posada.  Learn a bit about how the Catholic church melds with indio traditions, notice in the ilustrations that the devil follows Mary and Joseph&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: freedom</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/06/mjm-move-along-nothing-to-see-here/#comment-43284</link>
		<dc:creator>freedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 22:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, welcome back....:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, welcome back&#8230;.:)</p>
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		<title>By: Krusty</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/06/mjm-move-along-nothing-to-see-here/#comment-43242</link>
		<dc:creator>Krusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 16:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>freedom - Once again (not to you though) I must explain that I was fed up with the "bagatelle" = PARADE, the DEVIL, not with the site.  Sorry, but you'll have to cope with my witty, profound, well-thought out, etc. etc. comments a bit longer:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>freedom - Once again (not to you though) I must explain that I was fed up with the &#8220;bagatelle&#8221; = PARADE, the DEVIL, not with the site.  Sorry, but you&#8217;ll have to cope with my witty, profound, well-thought out, etc. etc. comments a bit longer:)</p>
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		<title>By: freedom</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/06/mjm-move-along-nothing-to-see-here/#comment-43219</link>
		<dc:creator>freedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 11:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I see that despite her abrupt and "permanent departure," Krusty just couldn't stay away.  Oh well....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I see that despite her abrupt and &#8220;permanent departure,&#8221; Krusty just couldn&#8217;t stay away.  Oh well&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: ateacher</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/06/mjm-move-along-nothing-to-see-here/#comment-43206</link>
		<dc:creator>ateacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 02:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now this is a cool thread!!!!  I've lived in many countries where it is okay to simply move another  person out of ones way, gently by the shoulders.  I've lived in countries that when my mom boarded a bus pregnant and with a two year old, if younger folks did not give up their seat, and older persons aboard had no qualms about rousting them out of their seats either verbally, with a cane, or both.  As far as my children go, we snag from local angel trees whenever we can.  So far we have purchased 7 presents, along with Toys for Tots donations.  Likewise my teaching assistant and I  have come to realize that we have two students in our class that do not have winter coats.  We have purchsed them since.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now this is a cool thread!!!!  I&#8217;ve lived in many countries where it is okay to simply move another  person out of ones way, gently by the shoulders.  I&#8217;ve lived in countries that when my mom boarded a bus pregnant and with a two year old, if younger folks did not give up their seat, and older persons aboard had no qualms about rousting them out of their seats either verbally, with a cane, or both.  As far as my children go, we snag from local angel trees whenever we can.  So far we have purchased 7 presents, along with Toys for Tots donations.  Likewise my teaching assistant and I  have come to realize that we have two students in our class that do not have winter coats.  We have purchsed them since.</p>
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		<title>By: Krusty</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/06/mjm-move-along-nothing-to-see-here/#comment-43201</link>
		<dc:creator>Krusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 01:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dreadnought - Southeast Asian system of lines I call the "funnel" system.  Rudeness to a degree has to be applied to simply get to the gate.  The taller people definitely have an advantage.  Same system ruled at the post office.  I even had a person stick his hand with a letter under my arm, while I was conducting business.  That was the way they did it and you had better learn.  Assimilation was a necessity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dreadnought - Southeast Asian system of lines I call the &#8220;funnel&#8221; system.  Rudeness to a degree has to be applied to simply get to the gate.  The taller people definitely have an advantage.  Same system ruled at the post office.  I even had a person stick his hand with a letter under my arm, while I was conducting business.  That was the way they did it and you had better learn.  Assimilation was a necessity!</p>
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		<title>By: Dreadnought</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/06/mjm-move-along-nothing-to-see-here/#comment-43192</link>
		<dc:creator>Dreadnought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 22:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cultural acceptance varies, as some posters have noted.  I was stationed in Hawaii in the mid 1960's (Navy) as a newly minted Ensign, first arriving there only a few years after Hawaii had become a state.  Talk about a double whammy....the locals hated whites, or barely tolerated them.  Add to that the uniform, and there were automatically two strikes against you.  We could at least live the ship in civvies...the poor enlisted sailors had to make do with fleet locker clubs, or frequent downtown Honolulu and Waikiki in uniform.

When I was posted in Mexico City during my government service years, all business with our Mexican government counterparts was conducted in Spanish, from "Los Pinos" staffers all the way down to local government officials.  Our Spanish....unless one of us was a near native speaker...was often "corrected" or condemned (I speak it at the "3" level, based on State Department testing.  "5" is native. )  When my family and I first moved there, we tried to speak Spanish at every first meeting with neighbors.  Rarely was the same courtesy offered in English,  despite our obvious Anglo appearance.  It took some months for us to be accepted.  We lived on the local economy, despite being in a gated/guarded compound (suffice to say, Mexico City is one of the most crime ridden capitals in the world.)

And have you ever tried to catch a plane in a Latin American country?  There is absolutely no concept of lines there...they announce a flight and there's a mad rush to the gate.  Makes me miss Japan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cultural acceptance varies, as some posters have noted.  I was stationed in Hawaii in the mid 1960&#8217;s (Navy) as a newly minted Ensign, first arriving there only a few years after Hawaii had become a state.  Talk about a double whammy&#8230;.the locals hated whites, or barely tolerated them.  Add to that the uniform, and there were automatically two strikes against you.  We could at least live the ship in civvies&#8230;the poor enlisted sailors had to make do with fleet locker clubs, or frequent downtown Honolulu and Waikiki in uniform.</p>
<p>When I was posted in Mexico City during my government service years, all business with our Mexican government counterparts was conducted in Spanish, from &#8220;Los Pinos&#8221; staffers all the way down to local government officials.  Our Spanish&#8230;.unless one of us was a near native speaker&#8230;was often &#8220;corrected&#8221; or condemned (I speak it at the &#8220;3&#8243; level, based on State Department testing.  &#8220;5&#8243; is native. )  When my family and I first moved there, we tried to speak Spanish at every first meeting with neighbors.  Rarely was the same courtesy offered in English,  despite our obvious Anglo appearance.  It took some months for us to be accepted.  We lived on the local economy, despite being in a gated/guarded compound (suffice to say, Mexico City is one of the most crime ridden capitals in the world.)</p>
<p>And have you ever tried to catch a plane in a Latin American country?  There is absolutely no concept of lines there&#8230;they announce a flight and there&#8217;s a mad rush to the gate.  Makes me miss Japan!</p>
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		<title>By: Krusty</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/06/mjm-move-along-nothing-to-see-here/#comment-43173</link>
		<dc:creator>Krusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MPREsident - I don' t know abt Switzerland but , yes, Sweden is sparsly populated.  However, Stockholm is pretty bad traffic wise.  Luckily, public transportation is great.  Take a train fr the airport to the central station, from where you can get buses in every direction, go downstairs and you can get long distance and local trains plus subway.  All kinds of shops down there.

Sweden has its share of illegal immigrants but accepts more legal ones than they can handle, IMO. 

floodguy - Would you please explain what you mean by "intolerant anti-religion lefties".  Is it per chance the opposite of "the tolerant [ha] religious right"?

BTW, there's  interesting news about HSM.  They want to form Save the Old Dominion rather than join/stay with the existing Help Save Virginia.  A disagreement of some kind.  You can read it on Herndonweb.com under the Northern Virginia Politics thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MPREsident - I don&#8217; t know abt Switzerland but , yes, Sweden is sparsly populated.  However, Stockholm is pretty bad traffic wise.  Luckily, public transportation is great.  Take a train fr the airport to the central station, from where you can get buses in every direction, go downstairs and you can get long distance and local trains plus subway.  All kinds of shops down there.</p>
<p>Sweden has its share of illegal immigrants but accepts more legal ones than they can handle, IMO. </p>
<p>floodguy - Would you please explain what you mean by &#8220;intolerant anti-religion lefties&#8221;.  Is it per chance the opposite of &#8220;the tolerant [ha] religious right&#8221;?</p>
<p>BTW, there&#8217;s  interesting news about HSM.  They want to form Save the Old Dominion rather than join/stay with the existing Help Save Virginia.  A disagreement of some kind.  You can read it on Herndonweb.com under the Northern Virginia Politics thread.</p>
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		<title>By: floodguy</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/06/mjm-move-along-nothing-to-see-here/#comment-43164</link>
		<dc:creator>floodguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 18:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next year's Christmas parade, and any other future parade sponsored or w/i any city w/i our county for that matter, should be quiered to see if any such nonsense will be participating.  

If, take for example, the city of Manassas Christmas parade in 2008, has these immigration knuckleheads parading again with their nose oozing with mucous and dancing with the devil, I say we all boycott the damn thing.  

I'm tired of this crap.  I'm tired of the liberals, the law-breakers, and the intolerant anti-religion lefties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next year&#8217;s Christmas parade, and any other future parade sponsored or w/i any city w/i our county for that matter, should be quiered to see if any such nonsense will be participating.  </p>
<p>If, take for example, the city of Manassas Christmas parade in 2008, has these immigration knuckleheads parading again with their nose oozing with mucous and dancing with the devil, I say we all boycott the damn thing.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m tired of this crap.  I&#8217;m tired of the liberals, the law-breakers, and the intolerant anti-religion lefties.</p>
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		<title>By: MP Resident</title>
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		<dc:creator>MP Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 04:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I would be interested to know Switzerland’s ILLEGAL immigrant population. That could be a good reason they took so many, they have more room."

I don't know about Switzerland, but in Sweden a traffic jam is three cars in a row.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I would be interested to know Switzerland’s ILLEGAL immigrant population. That could be a good reason they took so many, they have more room.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about Switzerland, but in Sweden a traffic jam is three cars in a row.</p>
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		<title>By: redawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>redawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 02:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Krusty,

I knew you weren't gone :) You may even get a skillet/ frying pan for Christmas but then again nothing beats a well SEASONED one...hah! hah!

Yes, Meals on wheels very rewarding and MUCH appreciated. 
I just hope as sales are down this season due to the uncertainty of our economics that people don't forget about the people who are in need and there are things you ca give to people that do not cost money.

I would also like to add that giving should be all year long ( "Hallelujah - you ladies are getting into the Christmas spirit.")

Just like people wait Valentine's Day should be every day, not just that ONE day of the year ( happens to be my anniversary too :) )

Merry Christmas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Krusty,</p>
<p>I knew you weren&#8217;t gone <img src='http://www.bvbl.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> You may even get a skillet/ frying pan for Christmas but then again nothing beats a well SEASONED one&#8230;hah! hah!</p>
<p>Yes, Meals on wheels very rewarding and MUCH appreciated.<br />
I just hope as sales are down this season due to the uncertainty of our economics that people don&#8217;t forget about the people who are in need and there are things you ca give to people that do not cost money.</p>
<p>I would also like to add that giving should be all year long ( &#8220;Hallelujah - you ladies are getting into the Christmas spirit.&#8221;)</p>
<p>Just like people wait Valentine&#8217;s Day should be every day, not just that ONE day of the year ( happens to be my anniversary too <img src='http://www.bvbl.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
<p>Merry Christmas</p>
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		<title>By: Krusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 02:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hallelujah - you ladies are getting into the Christmas spirit.  To hell with the devil, I say!  He (she) made an appearence in a parade, but he (she) is gone now.  Greg keeps bringing it up but LET'S SPREAD GOODWILL anyway.  I worked  Meals on Wheels with my late husband.  Very rewarding, indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hallelujah - you ladies are getting into the Christmas spirit.  To hell with the devil, I say!  He (she) made an appearence in a parade, but he (she) is gone now.  Greg keeps bringing it up but LET&#8217;S SPREAD GOODWILL anyway.  I worked  Meals on Wheels with my late husband.  Very rewarding, indeed.</p>
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