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Another Murder Linked To An Illegal Alien
By Greg L | 11 December 2007 | Illegal Aliens, Crime | 124 Comments
As many suspected, the person charged with this weekend’s multiple homicide in Woodbridge is indeed an illegal alien, according to the MJM.
Around 8:30 a.m. Sunday, Prince William police say Sanchez-Miranda, an illegal immigrant from Mexico, entered the house at the corner of Maurice Drive and Grandview Avenue in Woodbridge through an unlocked door and tried to shoot his estranged common-law wife, who had taken the couple’s three children to her sister’s house for a 2-year-old’s birthday party. (emphasis added)
I guess this was another one of those jobs that Americans are unwilling to do. Because of this, three are dead, and two are seriously injured. How many more will have to die before the federal and state governments can summon the will needed to ensure that illegal aliens are removed from our communities?
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The “long term Girlfriends” are also illegal as are the two other men who were living in that rooming house. Are they going to be turned over to ICE? They are part of the problem too. They need to go back to Mexico because they are illegally here. Judith Europa, the long term girlfriend told the WAPO reporter she had been here a few years and doesn’t speak any English. So much for assimilation into the culture. As for that violent culture, I don’t want any part of it….
Well, we knew this was coming. I’m sure the rest of the people involved weren’t supposed to be here either. Check out the sob story article in the POST today.
I am starting to believe that our Federal government is broken beyond repair. It is failing at the most basic responsibility, to secure our borders, and protect the citizens from external threats. If the invasion by illegal aliens continues, societal collapse is unaviodable. While pressuring our representatives to fix the problem, and equal amount of effort and resources should be spent individually preparing for the worst.
In Triple Slaying, A Story of Heroism
Two Survivors Describe Victims’ Lifesaving Acts
By Theresa Vargas
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, December 11, 2007; Page B01
As Judith Europa described how the father of her children shot and killed three people in a Woodbridge house, she clung to one positive: She and others were alive yesterday because two men were as intent on protecting those they loved as the gunman was on destroying them.
Europa said she was lying with four children on the floor of her sister’s bedroom Sunday when Anastacio Sanchez-Miranda, 39, slipped into the Grandview Avenue house unnoticed, his jealousy seething. She and the children watched as her sister, Rosario Europa, 24, and brother-in-law, Juan Manuel Guevara, 28, were gunned down. Guevara had placed his body in front of Judith Europa and the children, she said.
“He was a good man. The best,” Europa said in Spanish yesterday, standing outside the empty house. “He was a miracle to me.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/10/AR2007121001582.html?hpid=moreheadlines
“Greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends.”
John 15:13
Deport the two “Common Law” wives - there is no such legal status in the Commonwealth of Virginia. They have no right to be in the Country. She’s been here for years and still does not speak English? So much for learning the culture. I am tired of the unnecessary violence…yes, they didn’t cause the shootings, but if they were not here (as they SHOULD NOT BE) then the event would not taken place. GO HOME or ICE should send them home ASAP.
Who do you think is paying for all the medical care the other two illegals are getting at Fairfax Hospital? US taxpayers - that’s who. How much money was spent on the police investigation for people that are not supposed to be here in the first place? Don’t tell me illegals don’t cost anything. There are hidden expenses all over the place.
Has anyone narrowed down the address of the house? I’ve been roaming through the PWC tax records for Grandview Drive and these houses range in size from 600 to 1200 sf, with the exception fo 13608 - rebuilt in 2003.
13600 = 1224 (rental)
13602 = 1091 (rental)
13604 = 1224
13606 = 970
13608 = 2848
13610 = 990
13611 = 990
13612 = 816 (Rental)
13613 = 816 (Rental)
13614 = 1170
It would be interesting to learn who owns the property and just how “extended” the family members are.
Junes_Reston,
redawn said on 10 Dec 2007 at 6:49 pm:
From This news clip it reports 13600 block of Grandview Ave
and I can’t make out the last digit of the house in the video 1361?
http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/1207/479100_video.html?ref=newsstory
The only 2 houses that I found to be on the corner of Maurice Dr & Grandview Ave ON Grandview Ave are: 13614 & 13613 Grandview
Also ,I found a Anastacio Sanchez-Miranda to have been charged in PWC on 4-27-03 of malicious wounding case # GC03003080-00 final disposition 7-10-03 nolle prosequi , could this be the same person?
ddpdrinker said on 9 Dec 2007 at 11:16 pm:
“Anastacio Sanchez-Miranda, was found guilty in PWC General District Court of allowing an unlicensed person to drive his vehicle on 9/29/07, which is a Class 2 Misdeamenor. He was fined. Would they have checked his immigration status then? Also, back in 1996 an Anastacio F. Sanchez was found guilty of malicious wounding. Is this one the same person? I won’t know until tomorrow when I look at both of the files.”
Any luck?
redawn said on 11 Dec 2007 at 8:11 am:
Junes_Reston,
redawn said on 10 Dec 2007 at 6:49 pm:
From This news clip it reports 13600 block of Grandview Ave
and I can’t make out the last digit of the house in the video 1361?
The paper the other day said that the house was a “rental.”
How did he get a driver’s license if he is illegal? Seems like the system is still “broken” after 911.
999, The paper the other day said that the house was a “rental.”
We’re learning that “rental” can have more than one definition. It’s not uncommon for an owner-occupant to turn a part of their home into a “rental.”
13613 = 816sf (Rental), is owned by Cheryl Padilla whose address in the tax records is Alexandria, VA.
13614 = 1170sf, is owned by Walter and Eileen Drewry who reside at this address.
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Does anyone live near the house, or know someone who does? Is “yellow tape” is still up?
Ducky, since you quote the Bible, here’s one:
“Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s; and unto God the things that are God’s.” (King James: Matthew 22:21)
Redawn,
Yes, I had heard on the news yesterday that he had been arrested a few years ago…Why was he not deported then? Insanity!!!
You seem to have forgotten that THREE human beings are DEAD. Greg writes: “Another job that Americans are unwilling to do”. After reading the comments here, it seems you’d be happy that there are three less immigrants cramping your space! And the injured should be sent back! Where’s your bible now, Greg? What does it tell you?
The important thing to you now seems to be square footage and taxes and street numbers. Can your hatred make you so icy? Really?!? And, Junes-Reston “Does anyone live near the house, or know someone who does. Is yellow tape still up?” My god, what are you going to do, go over and stare at it, go inside and see the mattresses on the floor, cry with the survivors, or what?
Krusty,
You are making some sense this morning.:) Three people are dead and their family members are mourning. Where’s an ounce of sympathy. I’m not surprised this man is ILLEGAL ALIEN. However, I don’t want ANYONE murdered in PWC or the two cities irregardles of their immigration status.
Krusty:
The individual who allowed illegals to use this house is guilty of a federal felony. Landlords like this are the people who profit from the presence of illegals, just like the felonious employers who give them “jobs” at slave wages, thus putting real Americans out of work. The individual who owns that house should be prosecuted, convicted, and sent to jail. A little effort by the citizenry to find out that information, and at least see to it that it’s reported to ICE (because I bet a dollar to the hole in your Crispy Creme that Cholly Deane hasn’t thought to do it), is worth the effort.
Advocator,
I am all for citizens getting involved. However, shouldn’t the police be forwarding this on ICE? The media certainly knows the address they could also try do some good for once too. There’s also the Commonwealth’s Attorney Office.
I won’t be holding by breath.
I hear there was another killing in Montgomery County. Something about a house fire in a house with multiple residents sleeping all over the place. Yes, a Hispanic name. Sigh.
What Supervisor-Elect Principi “likes to call, his vision of a new Woodbridge.”
Lafayette, I agree and you have to give the owners the benefit of doubt as to if they KNEW they were illegal or not. I would think that they are definately in violation of over crowding of some sort.
Redawn, you’re right:
“Lafayette, I agree and you have to give the owners the benefit of doubt as to if they KNEW they were illegal or not.” Bingo!
You guys need to fire your PR man if after this loss of life, your first inclination is to call ICE! Harass the survivors! Deport the witnesses! Rubberneck at the scene!
Chris R
We will just have to see about that. I hope this “new Woodbridge” includes the shoreline areas as well. I hope he stands by word of protecting the Rural Crescent. I only saw three they honored this last Tuesday.
Lafayette:
Harboring illegals is a federal crime, hence the local police and CA’s office do not investigate or get involved. Unless it’s their policy to do so, the local police are not obligated to report the possible crime. Given the history of this police chief, who promulgated a “secret” general order that made the County a sanctuary for illegals for a short period of time, my bet is that the address where this crime occurred has not been reported for a possible violation of the ant-harboring law. In fact, I’d be willing to bet that this police department has never reported such a violation to the federal authorities.
A few minutes ago, Channel 4 News did an update on the “murder site.” The house number was clearly visible: 13613
This house is 816 sf of finished living space, owned by Cheryl Padilla, listed as residing at 5522 Harvey Lane in Alexandria, VA.
1st Sgt. Kim Chinn said EIGHT (8) people lived in the house - in 816sf of living space. WHERE were they living?
My question is: Did Padilla turn the property over to a property management firm to lease, or lease the property on her own? When I lease my rentals, I require a SSN and a credit check (standard with all property management companies). Obviously, these tenants would not have passed the test if they tried to rent one of my units.
Surely there was a lease - can anyone in their right mind accept that all eight people are listed on the lease?
For Krusty - trust me when I say that learning more about the address and legal owner, I would like to do far more than “stare at the house.”
Padilla created this mess. As long as the County continues to lower the bar and allow homeowners like this to create crises within our communities, we can expect to see more of the same.
Yesterday’s MJM article mentioned ELEVEN people sleeping in the house the night of the murder. In a home with 816 finished square feet, that’s 74 square feet per person. In other words, each person in the house gets living space of little more than a 6 foot by 6 foot area. That is serious overcrowding!
Junes_Reston, what steps do you take to guarantee that only the tenants who have signed your lease reside at the house? Would the neighboring property owners tell you if your rental became overcrowded?
Junes_Reston,
I understand what you are saying and owners that rent houses should do a back ground check etc.( good buiness sense) I know I would do everything I could do to insure that my house is protected and that the people I would rent to can pay me the rent etc.
We DO NOT know all the details. The shooter may have been illegal. The RENTER of the house may have been legal and sub rented out the house without the landlords/owners knowing.
We have to wait and see what comes out of this.
Nothing will come out of it if it’s not investigated by the proper authorities.
I can feel the liberals cringing as we speak. They will come up with a hundred excuses as to why this had nothing to do with illegal aliens. Yes, this was an atrocity, an abomidable act carried out by a monster. He will be jailed, tried and hopefully, executed by the Commonwealth. The so-called “D.C. Snipers” are still alive and well, years after thier terrible rampage. At what price to us, the taxpayers? Who will pay for the funerals of the victims? Who will pay for the hospital bill at Fairfax? If someone has the time and patience to track this case from beginning to end, it would be interesting to know just what the financial burden on us will be. Will the remaining victims be deported, or given a special visa for witnessing a crime? (yes, such a thing exists.) Nobody can deny that this horror would not have been visited on us had all involved been in Mexico, where they belong. Perhaps we could send Presidente Calderon the bill, along with instructions (en Espanol, of course) on how to get to Woodbridge to come recover his “constituants”. May God have mercy on all of the victims of this tragedy.
This from the PWC Neighorhood Resourse Guide.
Occupancy/Overcrowding.
http://www.pwcgov.org/docLibrary/PDF/004111.pdf
Item (4) 70 square feet of sleeping space is needed for the first person; 50 square feet for two or more. pg.37
This link is a wealth of information.
“why this had nothing to do with illegal aliens”
What about Matthew Murray, did he kill those people because he was home schooled?
It’s too bad that people were killed. But if they are illegals they would still be alive in the home countries maybe. That’s three less illegals we have to hunt down and deport in the future… kidding Krusty
anonymoustoo, I make it a point to stay in touch with my neighbors. They know who their new neighbors are, how many are living in the house and the cars they are driving. Should there be a “change,” they have my home and cell phone numbers and know they can call me 24/7 … and will.
When it comes to a reliable and up to the moment “security system,” there is nothing better than neighbors who care as much about their property as mine. Couple that with a good background check, and theres a 99.9% chance your property won’t be on the prime time news.
To even presume EIGHT (8) “legal” tenants would squeeze into 816 sf - in this neighborhood - is a stretch even for the most liberals.
Johnson - I feel your pain. Your financial burden and mental anguish… Write down your personal expenses and send the bill to the Pres. of Mexico.
Junes-Reston - You’d do more than stare at the house, you say. Burn it down perhaps? If you do, the (8) “legal” tenants would be put on the street, or into a motel somewhere. 8 people, especially when several of them are little people, can easily “squeeze” into 816 sqft.
Whatever. THEY ARE NOT GOING AWAY! And as Greg said in his opening statement.
The shooter did “another job Americans are unwilling to do”
Think about it!
Junes_Reston at 10:22 am:
This house is 816 sf of finished living space, owned by Cheryl Padilla, listed as residing at 5522 Harvey Lane in Alexandria, VA.
>>>>>>>>>>
Coincidence that illegal alien Latinos rented the house from another Latino?
Anonymous-was Murray an illegal alien? No. The two do not compare in the context of illegal immigration. How can I explain this so that you understand it? Or, do you concede the logic and just want to misdirect, as most liberals do when faced with logic? Will you be ranting about racism next? Don’t feel, think! We’re all sorry that people suffered because of an unbalanced person. It would be wonderful if we could give everyone a psychiatric exam and say with total certainty that they will or will not cause others harm. Since we cannot, let’s solve the problem with the tools that we have.
Krusty-Good one. I almost missed it.
Krusty - Greg is saying that Americans, for the most part, do not perpetuate a cabal of labor, immigrantion, or housing violations; or function as baby factories with multiple illegitimate partners; or kill their babies’ mommas in a Machismo act of cruelty. And he is certainly NOT advocating that Americans should be doing these jobs as you are implying. Get your senses checked.
A bit off the subject but does ANYONE know the outcome of the case a couple of years ago, where a Virginia State Trooper was accused by the family of an illegal alien teenager, who was stopped for reckless driving in the early morning hours on I-95 of throwing him off a bridge? The teenager was handcuffed in the back of the police car, somehow got out of the car, ran to the railing of the bridge and ended up going over it. Needless to say, he did not survive the long drop to the ground. The family was suing everyone involved because they said the trooper murdered the son by throwing him off of the bridge. The son was either drunk or high on drugs when stopped for RD. Never saw any followup on that story in any of the newspapers or radio/TV.
A Birthday Party for a 2 yr. old at 800am??? Are we joling?? This story smells from the very beginning, as again it’s one of those houses with 15 or more. And plenty of common law wives to make all these babies. Who’s going to care for them,when the so called parents are shooting each other?
The entire group needs to be checked out ,not just the shooter.
This is why our community has and is going down hill fast.
When Chavez comes to town on the 17th, I wonder who she’s meeting with? The Commission here, that could not even have a quorem at it’s meeting and yet they produced a report. Someone needs to hit her with all these problems. as she sees nothing wrong.
I Pray Evey day for our Country as it has changed so much. Not from the immigrants but it’s the illegals.
With respect to the Washington Post article:
Another illegal alien family brings violent crime to America, and the POST celebrates it with another sob story. This is par for the patholigically PC course our society is careening toward. The POST is no longer capable of objective reporting. They go out of their way to avoid stating that the entire family is illegal, or that up to 8 people were living in a house smaller than 900sf. They don’t metion the mother has been here for years and can’t speak English, or that the killer had prior arrests and should have been deported years ago. The POST does not mention the violations of immigration, labor, and housing laws by this family which are too inumerable to list. Instead they want the gullible, liberal and morally weak citizenry to celebrate these people as heroes! This is political propaganda of the highest order.
Is it no wonder people are inured to these acts that are happening with ever growing frequency? It’s not because we don’t have a heart; it’s because these people live and die by chaos and we are not surprised by the consequences. This is nothing but an episode of accountability not only on the part of the family, but on the US citizenry that support amnesty and oppose the rule of law. This is what happens!
Yet the POST espouses tolerance and sympathy for the poor victims. These acts are just more justification for ridding America of illegals. I am sick of their violence; I am sick of their non-assimilation; I am sick of hearing their language; I am sick of them imposing their culture on ours; I am sick of their law-breaking; I am sick of their squalor; but most of all I am sick of weak American liberals who cry for their acceptance and are so blinded by their stupidity and mantra of social justice that they can’t see that America is dying.
I don’t feel sorry for illegal aliens any more because they are a cancer upon society and they put us all at risk. Good God when will people wake up and realize that we have been invaded and taken hostage in our homeland. Real Americans recognize that we are in a defacto state of war with our own government that refuses to uphold the rule of law, and Latin American governments (Mexico in particular) that seek to impose their ethnic socialist agenda on America. As Felip Cauldaron said; “where there is a Mexican there is Mexico”.
I used to think deportation was too harsh. Now I don’t care - I want them gone form America like yesterday. Send them back by any means necessary. And may God bless America because she cannot wither this assault on our border, language, and culture much longer.
Krusty, I know you’re trying to give it your very best liberal spin, but it just isn’t working. Actually, you’re starting to sound desperate.
In a way, however, you are right! If these people hadn’t been killed in this house, they would have been killed in another. They are not victims - they put themselves and the children in harms way because of their chosen lifestyle.
And Cheryl Padilla created the vehicle for the slaughter by looking the other way and justifying it by saying, “everyone else does it!”
As long as people continue to look the other way and justify blatant abuse of our laws, we will see more of this - much more of this!
Brighter Future said on 11 Dec 2007 at 12:26 pm:
When Chavez comes to town on the 17th, I wonder who she’s meeting with? The Commission here, that could not even have a quorem at it’s meeting and yet they produced a report. Someone needs to hit her with all these problems. as she sees nothing wrong.
Maybe she should be given a private tour of the crime scene and show her what illegals are doing to this county and the country as a whole.
Amen, MDMan.
To those who bring up Michael Murray—don’t forget Tim McVeigh and John Wilkes Booth. What do they have to do with the case at hand and illegal immigration? The lefties are grasping at straws and obfuscating.
Here are two questions that need answers:
1. Who employed this illegal alien?
2. How did this illegal alien obtain a gun?
Also, this house seems to be overcrowded. Padilla needs to answer some questions.
IF this is the same Cheryl A. Padilla. She has a pending court date of 12/13/07 for zonining violations. case#’s GV07016987 & GV07016988 FILED ON 11/8/07
There was another zoning case closed with a judgment issued and satisfied on the amout of $300.00 10/17/07 case # GV07012655-00.
So how come the crime rate in PW has dropped?
Because the county’s population has increased. Crime rate is based on population.
Anonymous,
I say it just went UP by 3.
So what if Jesus has returned and he is born to an illegal alien.
Gotta find a virgin first.
The victim’s were self employed in their own construction/landscaping firm. Nobody has in the house has been confirmed as being here legally and most of the adults have been confirmed as illegal. Judith Espousa (the suspect’s “Girlfriend”) speaks no English despite being here 7 years. Enough is enough. Deport them.
redawn - she is one in the same. When I went to the General District Court hearing dates, it shows three zoning violations scheduled on 12/13.
I tried to find out what the zoning violation of 11/8 was, but the records didn’t provide any detail.
If it was overcrowding or too many unrelated people living in the house, the judge might these violations with a more critical eye, given the recent happenings.
It might prove interesting if the media were able to get wind of her “day in court.” I would really like to hear how she tries to wriggle her way out of this.
Anonymous-nice redirect! We’ll give Jesus a pass, as long as he can earn a mica (green card) by proving that he has skills that no other U.S. citizen has. Apologies to the christians among us, no harm intended!
To Patty-
1. Some greedy company or person who values profit over integrity or national security.
2. Since the shooter is illegal, probably from a burglary or other theft. Illegal aliens are forbidden by law from possessing firearms in the U.S. So, a convicted criminal-illegal alien was in possession of an illegally obtained firearm.
MdMan (are you sure that shouldnt be “MadMan) 12:28
You list all the things you’re sick of. Yea, you ARE sick!
Junes-Reston - Yes, I’m desperate because of the inhuman comments I read. So why do I read them? Because, to me, it’s important to find out what drives people. You said, if they hadn’t been killed in this house, they would have been killed in another. It evidently was a story of love gone wrong. Had the shooter not been illegal, would you have developed as much hatred against him - or the victims?
Krusty-how does “love gone wrong” translate into “I’m going to murder my baby momma and a few others”? Please! A story of love gone wrong ends with a broken heart, not three dead bodies.
Krusty -
thought you were leaving this site, never to return…. Darn - I see you’re back. Please leave again.
Anonymous - you are SOL. Why do you want me to leave? Only want to hear from those who think like you? Don’t you want to broaden your horizon a little? Whether you like my opinions or not, they might be the same as many others. Of course, you wouldn’t know that as you seem to have a closed mind.
Johnson - There have been many, many cases of “love gone wrong” killings, not only in history but today.
I believe the shooter has been mentioned as being illegal from several sources. This is christmas, I have a great deal of sympathy and respect for the deceased however…
none of this would have happened had they not been there. If they were not illegal this may have happened elsewhere (mexico) but we would not be seeing it on the news here.
Anonymous said on 11 Dec 2007 at 2:15 pm:
The victim’s were self employed in their own construction/landscaping firm.
IRS might want to take a look into this.
Anonymous said on 11 Dec 2007 at 2:15 pm:
The victim’s were self employed in their own construction/landscaping firm.
IRS might want to take a look into this. State too!
MdMan - AMEN!!! I would add, but anything I say would not do justice.
Anonymous said on 11 Dec 2007 at 1:44 pm:
“So what if Jesus has returned and he is born to an illegal alien.”
If you mean “Jesus Gonzales”, then he needs to be deported. However, if you mean “Jesus, the Son of God” first I HIGHLY recommend that you read the “Book of Revelation” for a clue as to how He will return. But, keep comments up like that and I am sure that there is a special place in Hades for you.
To all of you who believe you go to heaven after you die: - Do you think St Peter checked the visas of the illigal aliens? Is anybody considered an alien in heaven? (I don’t believe in heaven BTW)
As josh says, we must have sympathy and respect for the deceased. I would add that we must also think about those they left behind; people who love them, parents, siblings, friends. The death of just one affects many, many and for those of you who can’t get over the ILLEGAL part, at least try to imagine how you’d feel, if a friend had been killed by a madman. Please, try to have some compassion, please!
Anonymous said on 11 Dec 2007 at 1:44 pm:
So what if Jesus has returned and he is born to an illegal alien.
Gotta find a virgin first!
Anonymous - hahahahahahaha NOT!
Krusty said on 11 Dec 2007 at 3:41 pm:
To all of you who believe you go to heaven after you die:
Krusty,
Check with MWB, they probably already are taking up a collection to return the remains to Mexico. Might make you feel good this Christmas season to drop them a few bucks.
Give me the address and I’ll do it and feel better for it! What is MWB? - As for you who want them out of the country dead or alive, you ought to be one of the first to contribute. To be crude and cruel: you don’t want any illigal alien corpses staying around any longer than necessary, do you?
Krusty said on 11 Dec 2007 at 3:41 pm:
To all of you who believe you go to heaven after you die: - Do you think St Peter checked the visas of the illigal aliens? Is anybody considered an alien in heaven?
Good point Krusty!
To get into heaven, you have to enter through the checkpoint that is manned by St. Peter. God decides who may or may not enter, and those not allowed entry go to hell and have no opportunity to sneak in. If you are Catholic, you may also believe that some souls go to purgatory as they wait in line for their visa to gain lawful entry into heaven. Therefore God himself believes in protecting borders and maintaining sovereignty over deciding who may or may not enter his domain.
To the best of my knowledge, no one enters heaven illegally.
One Voice - what you say is absolutely true about conducting the training in Georgia. That is why it is important to have enough people in a training class to do the training locally (no travel expenses).
Herndon found a way to suffer (sic) through the process and it is a small Town. I would think a city would have significantly more resources to spend to establish this deterrent to the presence of illegal aliens. While the illegal alien, anti-law enforcement advocates don’t like it, the program works even in the very narrow context of Herndon’s implementation.
IMHO it is up to the voters in the City of Manassas to press the politicos to act. If they opt out or choose a delaying tactic, the same thing may happen to them as happened to the illegal alien supporters in Herndon.
Citizens choice.
JM - I’ve heard that there’s a place called LIMBO. Would that be where you stay while waiting for a work permit? (if there’s any work to do in heaven besides playing a harp)
JM at 4:18 pm:
OUTSTANDING comment!
Krusty, you said: “It evidently was a story of love gone wrong. Had the shooter not been illegal, would you have developed as much hatred against him - or the victims?”
This has nothing to do with hate - this is all about Latino Machismo after a few beers.
According to “National Hispanic News,” In Mexico 80% of murdered women are killed in domestic disputes by family members.
It’s part of their culture - their “values!” And we’ll be reading about many more attacks like this is the future.
Krusty said on 11 Dec 2007 at 4:34 pm:
JM - I’ve heard that there’s a place called LIMBO. Would that be where you stay while waiting for a work permit? (if there’s any work to do in heaven besides playing a harp)
Only the jobs that Americans won’t do.
When I first moved to the Manassas area about 10 years ago….none of this crap ever existed! This whole area has turned for the worse over the last 5 years due to illegal immigration (largely due to the many “legal” residents that “aid and abet” their illegal friends, family members, gang members, etc.). What a disgrace this is! Our once awesome county is turning into a 3rd world county!
Oh, no! Don’t tell me they have motels that need maids, babies that need “sitting”, lawns to mow, etc. in heaven! Sure am glad I don’t believe I’m going there. I’d be washing the halos for the true-blue Americans from PWC!
Krusty,
Of course this is very sad and I feel for the victims. A human is a human and NO ONE life is more important than another.
What is so disheartening is when you see this over and over again.We have found out numerous times that the guilty party could have been stopped and lives saved. See this thread for one example of what I am talking about. There is something VERY wrong with our judicial system. Yes, crimes / murder happen everyday by legal citizens too but it rubs salt in the wound when someone is here illegally to begin with and then you have results like this.
http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/08/15/another-grisly-murder/#comments
Junes_Reston said on 11 Dec 2007 at 2:17 pm,
Your right 3 zoning violations ( oversight on my part earlier)
Of course the court rooms are open to the public.
It is docketed for 11am in PWC 12/13/07
Krusty
FYI - We got rid of Limbo. Just Heaven, Purgatory ( I personally saved every soul stuck in purgatory based on the number of offerings I was forced to make by my Orthodontist for six of my formative years), and hell.
Quarterly Zoning report is in progress now. Unbelievable.
M. Casiato needs to wake up!! Zoning needs to do a better job.
Watching.
Lafayette,
Maybe you can take a peek in the court room on 12/13 since you will be there?
Lafeyette - I have some ideas……
Calm down Lafayette - I can hear ya.
Interesting Tidbit from Calderon on International Day Against Gender Violence.
If anyone thinks the incident at murders Sunday is an isolated incident, think again! This is the norm for them.
These are the people who are crossing our borders every day and settling into our neighborhoods and Congress is doing nothing about it!
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Wednesday, November 28, 2007
MEXICO CITY — Eight out of 10 murders of women in Mexico were committed by family members, Mexican President Felipe Calderon said Monday, as he marked the International Day Against Gender Violence.
“The facts speak for themselves. Opinion polls reveal that over 30 million Mexican women suffered some kind of violence last year, and that over 80 percent of the homicides of women are perpetrated within their own homes,” Calderon said.
The president also signed a law to prevent and punish the trafficking of human beings, that joins legislation against gender violence signed in February.
The illegal trade in human beings “is the third most profitable crime, according to the United Nations, and over 80 percent of the victims are girls or women,” Calderon added.
Liliana Rojero Luevano, executive secretary of Mexico’s National Women’s Institute, said a national opinion poll carried out in 2006 on the dynamics of domestic relations showed that 70 percent of Mexican women surveyed had suffered domestic violence.
The number of young women who claim to have suffered violence at the hands of their boyfriends is also striking, observers said. The figure rises to 55.8 percent in teenagers asked recently, Rojero Luevano said at the event led by Calderon.
“Some 30 percent of the women who have suffered violence at the hands of their partner believe they did it out of love,” she said.
According to Rojero Luevano, the dating phase “launches the subordination of women, turning into fertile ground for the germ of family violence.”
Calderon said “the environment of mistreatment in which millions of Mexican women continue to live” is worrying and deplorable.
The killer was not from this nation,
so you trot out a generalization,
and hatefully spew, “That’s what aliens do!”
But a citizen thug?… “abberation!”
rhymie - if the borders were truly s e c u r e d, this would be 100% preventable.
Greg, do we know if this Martin Mendoza caught stealing from construction sites is an illegal?
http://www.wtop.com/?nid=25&sid=1307728
Rhyme Time,
I AIN’T no poet and I know it
( all in fun)
what happened to the red white and blue
when abiding by the laws of our nation once were true
we find we ourselves accused of work
we would never do and be ridiculed by a fool like you
to find a solution of what to do
so that the respect remains
and no one blasphemes
with integrity in tact
we look for the fact
legal2 - Wouldn’t the theft still be a theft even if the thief were legal? Would it be in any way worse, if that were the case?
Rhyme Time said on 11 Dec 2007 at 6:00 pm:
The killer was not from this nation,
so you trot out a generalization,
and hatefully spew, “That’s what aliens do!”
But a citizen thug?… “abberation!”
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/onassignment/juarez/part2.htm
http://takenbythesky.net/juarez/dec13_1999.html
Get the picture!!
Krusty said on 11 Dec 2007 at 6:40 pm:
legal2 - Wouldn’t the theft still be a theft even if the thief were legal? Would it be in any way worse, if that were the case?
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Yes, because of the costs associated with prosecution, etc.
Lafayette(Mistletoe for Dec.) you need to run down to the community college and take a class in local government and learn a few things about zoning and the real estate market. And Mistletoe for Dec….what’s that all about. I wouldn’t kiss you with John Light’s lips. Merry Christmas.
Dolph said on 9 Dec 2007 at 1:19 am:
Lafayette,
You are hereby christened ‘Mistletoe’ as your December name. That should be an oldie but goodie…..
Anonymous @ 7:18
Ummm, yes, I said that. Is there a point to quoting me? I was not being cryptic.
~~splash~~
While we are discussing the bad habits of illegal immigrants, we should probably not overlook a rape charge in Dale City. Some man named Kwame Boateng was charged with rape and other sex related indecencies allegedly taken with an 8 year old who was his neighbor and family friend. Some of the charges have been dropped because of lack of evidence.
Some friend! Some neighbor! An 8 year old child! We need to be asking if this man is an illegal also. Reading between the lines in the MJM, he certainly sounds like he could be. I would gladly contribute towards his deportation, after he is someone’s girlfriend in the Big House for a long long time.
What a pig. I hope there is a special hell set aside for trash like this. I am willing to waive my ‘innocent until proven guilty’ mantra on him. 8 year old kids don’t lie about this sort of thing as a rule.
http://www.manassasjm.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=MJM%2FMGArticle%2FWPN_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173353817775&path=!news
Anonymous said on 11 Dec 2007 at 6:55 pm:
“And Mistletoe for Dec….what’s that all about. I wouldn’t kiss you with John Light’s lips. Merry Christmas.”
WOW, it who has no brains (not even clever enough to think of a name so hides behind anonymity) had a nerve touched by either Lafayette or myself - lol
My lips are not for loan or hire, you son of a gun (look THAT phrase up and see where it gets you). You attack like a Mexican crossing the border - sneak at night when you think no one is looking and are surprised when the light of truth is shown on your foul ways.
Now Krusty, on the other hand, has shown her true self when she writes, “I don’t believe in heaven BTW.” Look, I am not going to attack you because of your lack of faith in God. Pray for you, yes, but not attack. What I WILL say is that by that one statement alone, you have explained ALL the reasons you write and believe the things you do.
Because you do not believe in an after-life, actions here on earth really have no consequences. You may believe “An ye harm none, do what ye will” because you do not believe that there is a higher diety who will hold us accountable. Because you can not see God, you lack the faith to believe. I have never met you, Krusty, but I believe that you exist. I may only have writings to go off of with NONE of my friends actually having ever seen you or witnessed you do things directly for them, but I still believe.
All this being said, to TRULY understand why people TAKE a stand, you have to understand where they stand…understand???
Meanwhile, back to the here and now….where is the outrage over the rape of an 8 year old girl? This story was buried on page 5.
Dolph: This sick bastard needs to be fed his “Boateng Sausage”.
This is so vile. I can’t even think about it.
Illegal? He probably was arrested before the
287(g) program was up and running at the jail.
I am looking for the Mistletoe!!!! Smoochies Lafayette!!
Dolph, I am upset about the 8 y/o as well. I am not saying LEGAL immigrants do not commit crime, but it seems to me that ILLEGAL aliens are committing quite a bit. Maybe it is reported more than LEGAL immigrants crimes are.
JL, I agree with your last post. Just because I can not see or touch something, does not mean it is not there.
Anonymous said on 11 Dec 2007 at 6:55 pm:-
You sound exactly like Dinglberry, oh I mean Bayberry did on another thread. At least they FINALLY came back to apologize. Why would you be such an ass and say the things you did about Lafayette(Mistletoe for Dec.)?
She does so much to help clean up the community and you have to bad mouth her. I’m sure she knows ten times what you do.
YOU owe her an apology!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WGW, Turn that Boateng Sausage into a wart during a fly by.
I wonder if the alleged rapist is in jail or out where he can get to other little girls? He obviously is a flight risk since he ran off to NY to hide.
OH, maybe Anonymous 6:55 pm is really MOM.
Greg, Has MOM been banned? Have not seen HIM around in a long while.
me-n-u said on 11 Dec 2007 at 9:42 pm:
Anonymous said on 11 Dec 2007 at 6:55 pm:-
You sound exactly like Dinglberry, oh I mean Bayberry did on another thread. At least they FINALLY came back to apologize.
This is what happens when you apologize. It does not get dropped and once again called a Dingleberry for doing so. How grown up, mature is this audience?
Shhh…he might he might hear you and reappear!
“Mom” is too busy being the “fashion police officer” HE is.
John Light - How noble of you not to attack me for not believing in heaven or an afterlife. Your kindness is admirable. I didn’t say I don’t believe that there’s a God. I just said that I don’t believe in what most people think of as heaven. When you’re dead, you’re dead. That’s why it’s important to make the most of oneself and to try to be kind to, try to understand others, and improve life for everybody while alive.
What’s left is all the good things you have tried to do and accomplish during your lifetime.
IMO one shouldn’t do good only in the hope of getting a reward after death. If I believe in anything like that, it would be that my soul will come back in another body. (sure hope I won’t come back as an illegal immigrant in PWC). The eternity of the soul is something I can believe in but not explain.
“According to “National Hispanic News,” In Mexico 80% of murdered women are killed in domestic disputes by family members.
It’s part of their culture - their “values!” ”
Which don’t stop at the Rio Grande, as Bush once said.
Krusty,
Nor should you feel you should have to explain your personal beliefs.
I am all about to each his/her own! I try to respect all religous beliefs except those who advocate killing those who do not believe as they do. There I draw the line. I also cannot respect those from that church whose members go to the military funerals to insult those who have died.
Who knows, I might want to come back as a dolphin…if it weren’t for those rascally tuna nets!
~~splash~~
Thanks, Dolph, and good night! I’m up only because my alarm clock played a trick on me and went off at midnight?!?!?!
Does that make you Krusty Cinderella? And did the glass slipper fit?
Any Prince Charmings around here?????
Nah…..midnight is the hour of the rat.
…and still nothing on Fox, CNN or MSNBC about this gruesome crime. I wonder if the killer had been a citizen, would it have been news? Media bias in the U.S.? Impossible! “Oh, no, another illegal alien has murdered people. Bury it, quick!”
Look…bottom-line…with this illegal immigration issue gone unchecked and its associated overcrowding, our once quiet communities are now Wild West communities. There is no more stability in our neighborhoods with people coming and going with regards to the bunk houses. We must stop this. We must demand that zoning holds their employees accountable. They must demonstrate quality in their work. They must be supervised and they must be cross-checked. It appears that certain individuals that have what appear to be hispanic last names are the ones conducting the “inspections” are letting things slide. Would this not be a conflict of interest? Please let me know if I am wrong.
The Patriot,
We’ve been inspecting the inspectors for months, and have watched blatantly go to the wrong house and then report the case as “unfounded”. Sir, I left my thoughts on Ms Casiato and her crew. You are NOT wrong!! I truly believe some are being “tipped off” that PCE is on the way. We’ve been documenting this for quite sometime. I think ALL know Zoning is one of biggest complaints. They need to uphold the duties of enforcing our laws. I will be dialing up the Honorable Mr. Stirrup’s office. I sure told them of my concerns about the last report. They probably are expecting the call. lol
Boateng is a citizen
Good Time Charlie,
Thanks for the update. Glad to see you around.
Okey-dokey. Now, let us lock Mr. Boateng up for life. He is a pedophile and as such, does not deserve to live among us. BTW, I don’t want to hear about what his “culture” condones in the arena of sexual matters. Ask Oprah about that. If he is a naturalized citizen, then he has been here long enough to know our laws regarding stautory rape/child molestation.
Krusty said on 12 Dec 2007 at 12:22 am:
Thanks, Dolph, and good night! I’m up only because my alarm clock played a trick on me and went off at midnight?!?!?!
Did you turn into a pumpkin?
The bastard (Boateng) has been found GUILTY by Judge Potter
who has the decency to believe that little girl’s story. Isn’t
Boateng the animal who was demanding an interpreter and the
fact that one was not readily available…his court hearing was
put off? If he is indeed a citizen, then why would there be a
need for an interpreter? He obviously didn’t need an interpreter
when he told that little girl to “take off your pants”.
Disgusting!! I take some comfort in knowing that some big
brute(s) will take care of him in prison.
Gone Fishing-Somebody please correct me, but I believe he spoke some dialect that only a few other prople in the world still use. Obviously a stalling tactic and it damn near worked! One Maryland judge (I know, “The People’s Republic of Maryland”) let him go based on the interpreter issue before an appeals judge nailed him. Amazing how they learn to work the system. I’m quite sure that his crimes would have gone unnoticed in his native country. Mexican cops are only a Coke away from a confession!
Johnson, I believe you are correct regarding the dialect,
however, I think this monster is from some country in Africa.
Anyway, thank God he’s behind bars!
I don’t know anything about Boateng, but if he is a citizen, he should have his citizenship stripped away. Interpreter? How come he doesn’t know English if he is a citizen? I, like Gone Fishing, am glad to know he was convicted and perhaps will get an opportunity to see what its like to be at the hands of a sexual predator.
To me, a sub human like this is as much of a monster than someone who gets liquored up and kills, maybe even more of one.
Are we positive he is a citizen?
Dolph, No, I am not positive he is a citizen, but tend to take
the word of “Good Time Charlie” that he is. GTC seems to
be in the know about things relating to law enforcement issues.
The ADC, I’m sure would have our answer, but getting that
information would probably be difficult. They love to play the
“confidential information” card.
Gone Fishing,
Where you around here in June? If not go check out some of GTC’s comments. I don’t think you’ll find yourself doubt the words you will read there. Who takes care of the transport from PWC ADC to the “big house”? I hope the state comes to pick him up and not the other option.
I hope he gets what ole Jeffrey Dahlmer got when he was locked up behind bars.
Regarding zoning issues, Chavez is a joke. He lets residents lie to him and then when he does a reinspection he lets them get away with “oh yeah, those are my cousins”. That is obstructing a county official in his duties and why didn’t Chavez file a police report? Because he is a joke.
GTC - willing to share your background as a LEO?
So will the real Good Time Charlie stand up. How do you know this creep is a citizen? Why does a citizen need an interpreter?
Lafayette, yes, I believe I was around in June. Could you be
inferring that the transport from the ADC to the “big house” is
risky in that an escape of the monster is possible/probable?
If so, you have a valid point. Wouldn’t surprise me one bit.
I’m still waiting to hear the results of the findings of the recent
suicide (hanging) at the ADC. This, along with all the other
events happening at the ADC and the sheriff’s dept will most
certainly be kept under wraps. They are separate intenties,
but we all know they are peas in a pod. Also, waiting to find
out the real reason Colonel Land is retiring this month…is it because of an on-going investigation? Inquiring minds want to
to know!!!
Dolph asks a very good question:
“Why does a citizen need an interpreter?”
Heck, Univision felt compelled to interpret the interrogation of the U.S. presidential candidates.
Why does a citizen voter need an interpreter?