Comments on: Celebrating Lawlessness In Prince William

By: Bayberry resident

Bayberry resident — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 19:51:02 +0000

correction, they “don’t” have to prove anything.

By: Bayberry resident

Bayberry resident — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 19:48:59 +0000

My point about proving family relations is why would it be my responsibility to prove my family is my family? If yoyu are arrested for a crime is it not the governments responsibility to prove you are guilty not yours to prove you are innocent? If the City came to my door and claimed the people living with me are unrelated I would look at them and say “prove it.” Again, this is what the inspectors have to work with and if you think you can do any better maybe you should submit your ideas to them. But to say the people being investiagted have to prove they are related is just plain incorrect. They don’y have to prove anything.

By: Lafayette(Mistletoe for Dec.)

Lafayette(Mistletoe for Dec.) — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 19:15:01 +0000

The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 15 Dec 2007 at 2:06 pm:
Damn, you beat me to it. I guess I better be more on my toes since your back.

By: Lafayette(Mistletoe for Dec.)

Lafayette(Mistletoe for Dec.) — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 19:13:22 +0000

Bayberry,
Your family visiting for the weekend or holidays is very different from living there for living in crowded conditions by choice for months on in. I also, would bet that your family/guests would not be parking on the lawn front and back, coming and going all hours of the middle of the night, or urinate in the front lawn for the world to see. Maybe, I wrong here, but I doubt it.There’s a big difference. Of course you should NOT be penalized for this. I’m a pretty middle of the road person myself, very openminded, and even more INDEPENDENT.
My point in Zoning needing to have a more flexible schedule it would be easier to talk to the occupants and explain what the problem is other than a written citation, which very well might get ignored. Believe it or not I am VERY AWARE of the fact that local zoning offices are limited by the laws from the state and feds. This is all the more reason concerned citizens need to get involved. Our state leaders must take action to give the localities within the “Old Dominion State” more tools to be effective.

By: The Patriot (Got E-Verify?)

The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 19:06:05 +0000

Bayberry….actually….I would think that if a person claims that they are related they would need to provide some sort of documentation to back up their claim. I am not certain a house that has “guests” for only a short time would be an issue. What I look for are those houses that have overcrowding continuously. I also look for cars that change frequently (much like a rotation). This shows patterns which is worthy of a call for inspection.

By: Bayberry resident

Bayberry resident — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:52:29 +0000

Lafayette, so if I have both my brothers and their families and my mome and dad and my sister and her families over for a weekend holiday get together and they sleep where ever we can find a place for them to sleep for the weekend then I should be penalized. Many know I play the middle of the road here but I will tell you this, the first time a gov’t official comes to my door on a weekend and asks to inspect my house or asks who lives with me, that person better be ready to make a very fast escape from my property. This is the problem inspectors have. There is nothing that says you have to answer any of their questions. In addition, how do you prove whether or not the occupants are related. It is not their responsiblity to prove they are related, it is the governments responsibilty/proof to prove they aren’t. This is still America and you are innocent until proven guilty, I think.

By: Lafayette(Mistletoe for Dec.)

Lafayette(Mistletoe for Dec.) — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:30:48 +0000

Great letter! Ms. C. wouldn’t make it through the weekend living in overcrowded conditions. Maybe, she would go out there on the weekend and take care of ALL of the popsicle signs.
The county should be enforcing this law on the weekends. I won’t be holding my breath for that one. Neighborhood Services should be out and about on the weekends, and there are more residents at home them. Hmm, makes to much sense I guess.
Practice what you preach Casciato
LETTER TO THE EDITOR
Potomac News
Saturday, December 15, 2007
Michelle Casciato of the Prince William Neighborhood Services Division believes that 17 or 18 people can safely sleep in a three-bedroom house (460 crowding complaints reported, Dec. 11, Potomac News).
Ms. Casciato was hired by the county in 2005 at a starting salary of $70,203 as a “neighborhood coordinator” to help educate homeowners on how their property should look and how it should not.
Ms. Casciato spends most of her time at Board of County Supervisors meetings reporting on the removal of popsicle signs throughout the county.
In my perspective, Ms. Casciato should open up her personal home to 17 to 18 people she isn’t related to, live with them for six to eight weeks, provide parking for their vehicles on her lawn and invite all of her neighbors and the entire Board of County Supervisors over on a weekend for a weenie roast celebrating diversity and that mental disorder better known as liberalism.
Finally, Ms. Casciato should report to the public at the following Board of County Supervisors meeting on the essence of “safely” living with 17 to 18 people in a dwelling built for much fewer people and explain why her public salary shouldn’t be reduced to zero.

By: Gone Fishing

Gone Fishing — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:53:33 +0000

anonymous (12/13 @8:44)
The one shiny thing we are looking for as a distraction is the
zero polulation of illegals in this country!

By: Dolph

Dolph — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:38:52 +0000

One Voice,

Perhaps Greg will start a thread for the purpose of commenting on PWC funding issues. Obviously you are concerned. Frankly, I would like to hear what you and others have to say on the issue of local funding.

There certainly was enough dooming and glooming on the Jackson Miller thread yesterday about national monetary issues.

Show me the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

~~splash~~

By: One Voice

One Voice — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:34:03 +0000

This seems to be the only open thread where local PWC funding issues are remotely related?

This issue here (lack of or horrible resources) is directly related to the sinking CIP that was presented on Tuesday (no thread) and the NVTA increase (cut from thread) and the likely prospect of more services cuts or tax hike (no thread).

What’s up?

By: The Patriot (Got E-Verify?)

The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:18:57 +0000

anonymous said on 13 Dec 2007 at 8:44 pm:
“I can’t wait until something shiny distracts you guys and you’re interested in some other issue.”

That is what you liberals live for right? You want people to get distracted with your smoke and mirror tactics! Well….that just isn’t going to happen. Illegal immigration is our NATION’S number one issue and we will continue to vigorously monitor and resolve this issue. As part of this measure, we need to start identifying people that “aid and abet”.

By: Community Guy

Community Guy — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:51:37 +0000

Hasn’t anyone noticed that she was there to cut down on violations (her words).
Hasn’t anyone noticed that the county has initiated an amendment to Article X (enforcement) of the County Zoning that will allow the Zoning Enforcement to get a subpoena for “Overcrowding” witnesses (put them under oath).

By: anonymous

anonymous — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:44:48 +0000

I can’t wait until something shiny distracts you guys and you’re interested in some other issue.

By: Bl

Bl — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:56:15 +0000

If Mr. Horn is punished for this then all of our Politicians that refuse to abide by Article IV section IV of our Constitution against Invasion and fail to enforce our Immigration laws should be punished as well. When this country is experiencing the greatest invasion in world history and our politicians not only refuse to protect the Nation from this invasion but in fact aid, abet and encourage this invasion then they are guilty as well. Houston is an sanctuary city. If the Politicians had obey our Constitution and laws the two illegal aliens would not have been in this country to prey on American citizens and Mr. Horn would not have been forced to chose what action to take. When politician start picking and choosing which parts of our Constitution and Laws they enforce then they are openly encouraging lawless. Illegal Aliens every year kill more American citizens than are killed by terrorist in the last 10 years combined, while raping, and robbing tens of thousands more. Both parties have contributed to this slaughter of our citizens and the impact of millions of uneducated peons and criminals pouring across our open borders. They are destroying our health care system, our schools, our judicial system, our environment, welfare system. adding to energy use, pollution, water use and driving our standard of living down. While driving up our taxes, insurance rates, welfare cost and tax receipts down.

Mexican and Latin American citizens have for hundreds of years lived in a society where corruption, crime, poverty, misery, anti-education and hate for American and the rule law of law is normal. Should anyone be surprised they bring those same values across the border with them? If government refuses to protect its citizens and abide by its own laws and Constitution can citizens be blamed for taking the law into their hands?

By: West Gate Witch

West Gate Witch — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:39:26 +0000

The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 13 Dec 2007 at 1:12 pm:
I never turn a “blind eye” while on a “fly by”

By: The Patriot (Got E-Verify?)

The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:12:38 +0000

redawn, let’s face it, there are many supporters of illegals and they are at all levels. If they happen to be investigators they might turn a blind eye.

By: Dolph

Dolph — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:02:58 +0000

When state law allows a huge number of people to live in a house, zoning has no right to enter a home unless allowed by the resident, and there is no real way to tell relationship of those living in a home, I am surprised there are any resolved issues at all.

The violations must all be over yard and car issues. I sure see no way to enforce anything else.

I would like to see our BOCS lobby the legislators to make the necessary changes at the state level so that we can insist zoning enforcement do its job. State law seems to be a major hurdle with our quality of life issues here in Prince William.

By: redawn

redawn — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:31:35 +0000

the send out at least 2 police officers…
I think it just comes down to someone not doing their job rather than overlooking because of belief of race.I could be wrong.Help me out here.

By: redawn

redawn — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:29:24 +0000

The Patriot (Got E-Verify?),
Isn’t that same reason why if there is a domestic dispute the send out at elast 2 police officers one being a woman, etc?

There was an incident of homless lady and she was of a certain race and the sent out 2 officers one being of the same race. ( may have been a coiencidence but,asked when the call was made to to the police, they asked for a description of the person) I don’t know if it becomes a conflict of interest or standard pracitce?

By: park'd

park'd — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:43:29 +0000

Agreed.

As I said before: If Stirrup wants to put his money where his mouth is then he NEEDS to take zoning enforcement/reform as his very own personal pet project - most ricky tic. Action talks, BS walks. PWC citizens need to call him on this issue.