Comments on: Is The Billboard Coming Down? http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/ Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 18:00:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44636 The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:37:51 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44636 WHAT??? The liberals/pro-illegal alien supporters have no comments to my post directly above??? WHAT??? The liberals/pro-illegal alien supporters have no comments to my post directly above???

]]> By: The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44609 The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:25:55 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44609 For all of you liberals/pro-illegal alien supporters that cry racism...I decided to post the comment I made on another thread...for you to directly address: The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 14 Dec 2007 at 7:25 am: This is a direct quote from the National Council of La Raza (as you can see it violates item 3 in my list above). The issues they mention would apply to all people in America not just “latinos” (there is no reason to have a “latino” perspective with regard to these global issues that affect all Americans). “To achieve its mission, NCLR conducts applied research, policy analysis, and advocacy, providing a Latino perspective in five key areas – assets/investments, civil rights/immigration, education, employment and economic status, and health.” QUESTION: is the NCLR position racist? I think it is! It is only concerned with what latinos think (not anyone else). Therefore, they will push for policies for the advancement of only latinos! That my friends is racism! Why don't you liberals/pro-illegal alien supporters ever address this head on????? Even "You Don't Speak for Me" (group of LEGAL Latinos against illegal immigration) is against the NCLR!!!!! Why? Because the "You Don't Speak for Me" people represent what true Americans are all about!!!! I noticed that on my other thread....not one liberal/pro-illegal alien supporter addressed my post above! For all of you liberals/pro-illegal alien supporters that cry racism…I decided to post the comment I made on another thread…for you to directly address:

The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 14 Dec 2007 at 7:25 am:
This is a direct quote from the National Council of La Raza (as you can see it violates item 3 in my list above). The issues they mention would apply to all people in America not just “latinos” (there is no reason to have a “latino” perspective with regard to these global issues that affect all Americans).
“To achieve its mission, NCLR conducts applied research, policy analysis, and advocacy, providing a Latino perspective in five key areas – assets/investments, civil rights/immigration, education, employment and economic status, and health.”

QUESTION: is the NCLR position racist? I think it is! It is only concerned with what latinos think (not anyone else). Therefore, they will push for policies for the advancement of only latinos! That my friends is racism! Why don’t you liberals/pro-illegal alien supporters ever address this head on????? Even “You Don’t Speak for Me” (group of LEGAL Latinos against illegal immigration) is against the NCLR!!!!! Why? Because the “You Don’t Speak for Me” people represent what true Americans are all about!!!! I noticed that on my other thread….not one liberal/pro-illegal alien supporter addressed my post above!

]]> By: TDB http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44497 TDB Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:32:58 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44497 Dolph said on 13 Dec 2007 at 11:39 pm: Europeans, Africans, and Asians can and do overstay their visas. That makes them just as illegal as someone who walks or drives across our borders. In many respects, they are far more dangerous to our society. =================================== At least there is SOME accountability. And, we know their names. And, there is not 15-40 million immigrants overstaying their visas. The US, as is true with every other nation, we limit the number of visas. So, your comment is really rather worthless. Dolph said on 13 Dec 2007 at 11:39 pm:
Europeans, Africans, and Asians can and do overstay their visas. That makes them just as illegal as someone who walks or drives across our borders. In many respects, they are far more dangerous to our society.
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At least there is SOME accountability. And, we know their names. And, there is not 15-40 million immigrants overstaying their visas. The US, as is true with every other nation, we limit the number of visas. So, your comment is really rather worthless.

]]> By: The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44474 The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:10:28 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44474 http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=209190 As you can clearly see in this article.....these elected officials are not voting for the good of all Americans....they are pandering to a group of people based on ethnicity. http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=209190
As you can clearly see in this article…..these elected officials are not voting for the good of all Americans….they are pandering to a group of people based on ethnicity.

]]> By: /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k post award) http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44395 /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k post award) Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:37:10 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44395 Saying that Hispanics are ILLEGAL aliens is like going to the south side of Chicago and saying most of the residents are black. It all boils down to numbers. Hispanics are a large number of ILLEGAL aliens, but they are not the ONLY ONES!!! Saying that Hispanics are ILLEGAL aliens is like going to the south side of Chicago and saying most of the residents are black. It all boils down to numbers. Hispanics are a large number of ILLEGAL aliens, but they are not the ONLY ONES!!!

]]> By: /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k post award) http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44391 /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k post award) Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:31:57 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44391 jfk, Unfortunately if we do not stem the tide of the invasion, we will have to endure additional problems. The ILLEGAL aliens are doing it the right way, invading little by little, blending in with everyone and seeking to use our generosity to make themselves LEGAL. jfk, Unfortunately if we do not stem the tide of the invasion, we will have to endure additional problems. The ILLEGAL aliens are doing it the right way, invading little by little, blending in with everyone and seeking to use our generosity to make themselves LEGAL.

]]> By: /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k post award) http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44389 /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k post award) Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:28:58 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44389 anontoo, Again the Hispanics seem to think they have the market cornered on the ILLEGAL front. I do not specify Hispanic when I say ILLEGAL alien. Granted there are far more Hispanics here ILLEGALLY than most other countries due to ease of access. _______________________________________ Patriot, That mission statement looks like it is against the American culture. No wonder they are not accepted, they want to be superior to everyone else. anontoo, Again the Hispanics seem to think they have the market cornered on the ILLEGAL front. I do not specify Hispanic when I say ILLEGAL alien. Granted there are far more Hispanics here ILLEGALLY than most other countries due to ease of access.
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Patriot, That mission statement looks like it is against the American culture. No wonder they are not accepted, they want to be superior to everyone else.

]]> By: jfk http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44383 jfk Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:09:44 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44383 The beauty of American culture is that we have so many choices, and we are OK with it. That's what makes us unique. If anyone doubts that we are bonded together, think back to the days immediately after 9/11. All those superficial things fell to the wayside, and the unity of our nation really shined. The beauty of American culture is that we have so many choices, and we are OK with it. That’s what makes us unique.

If anyone doubts that we are bonded together, think back to the days immediately after 9/11. All those superficial things fell to the wayside, and the unity of our nation really shined.

]]> By: anonymoustoo http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44374 anonymoustoo Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:42:00 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44374 Mom! Are you posting on this blog as Bridget?! (I mean my mother not BVBL's "Mom".) Mom! Are you posting on this blog as Bridget?!

(I mean my mother not BVBL’s “Mom”.)

]]> By: The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44360 The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:25:27 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44360 This is a direct quote from the National Council of La Raza (as you can see it violates item 3 in my list above). The issues they mention would apply to all people in America not just "latinos" (there is no reason to have a "latino" perspective with regard to these global issues that affect all Americans). "To achieve its mission, NCLR conducts applied research, policy analysis, and advocacy, providing a Latino perspective in five key areas – assets/investments, civil rights/immigration, education, employment and economic status, and health." This is a direct quote from the National Council of La Raza (as you can see it violates item 3 in my list above). The issues they mention would apply to all people in America not just “latinos” (there is no reason to have a “latino” perspective with regard to these global issues that affect all Americans).
“To achieve its mission, NCLR conducts applied research, policy analysis, and advocacy, providing a Latino perspective in five key areas – assets/investments, civil rights/immigration, education, employment and economic status, and health.”

]]> By: The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44355 The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:13:34 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44355 This is because anonymoustoo needs a refresher course: Our American culture: 1. Loyal to only our country and flag (the U.S. and U.S. flag). 2. Speak English (this is what unites all of us no matter where we are from). This has been our common language from our country’s beginning. 3. Subscribe to the “melting pot” concept. This means that you do not place your country of origin/culture at a higher priority than the culture/ideas/traditions of America. This means that you get no special treatment or policies that favor one group of people over another. This means that all policies are for the good of all people (not a particular group of people based on race/ethnicity/culture, etc.). This is because anonymoustoo needs a refresher course:
Our American culture:
1. Loyal to only our country and flag (the U.S. and U.S. flag).
2. Speak English (this is what unites all of us no matter where we are from). This has been our common language from our country’s beginning.
3. Subscribe to the “melting pot” concept. This means that you do not place your country of origin/culture at a higher priority than the culture/ideas/traditions of America. This means that you get no special treatment or policies that favor one group of people over another. This means that all policies are for the good of all people (not a particular group of people based on race/ethnicity/culture, etc.).

]]> By: The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44354 The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:12:12 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44354 madmom said on 13 Dec 2007 at 9:28 am: "UnMas - Being a “resident” and being a “citizen” are two completely different things." Actually, you need to take it one step further....just because someone acquires "citizen" status does NOT mean that they are true Americans! The true American will subscribe to the criteria I presented many posts above. madmom said on 13 Dec 2007 at 9:28 am:
“UnMas - Being a “resident” and being a “citizen” are two completely different things.”

Actually, you need to take it one step further….just because someone acquires “citizen” status does NOT mean that they are true Americans! The true American will subscribe to the criteria I presented many posts above.

]]> By: Bridget http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44350 Bridget Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:53:54 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44350 Anonymoustoo can complain, gripe and vilify American culture till the cows come home ... pooh-pooh the culture from top to bottom; the high to low, pop to heritage, seedy to sublime ... make it all out to be as yucky, vapid and repulsive as she likes ... but strange as it may seem, vast numbers, by hook or by crook, are flooding into the U.S.A. For a better life and the American dream ... or so we are told. And I would bet my last American green back dollar on her screaming bloody murder if she were forcibly exiled to the third world. Nobody can force me to attend an NFL game, a Nascar rally or a Shakira concert. Nobody can force me to join PETA or go duck hunting. I have a multitude of options If strip mall shopping is not my thing. I am free to vote as I choose, at the ballot box, with my feet or with my wallet. Free to join any house of worship that will have me. Free to stay home and proclaim my cat supreme overlord and protector of my universe ... and wait faithfully as he overcomes that opposable thumb vs can opener thing. Anonymoustoo can complain, gripe and vilify American culture till the cows come home … pooh-pooh the culture from top to bottom; the high to low, pop to heritage, seedy to sublime … make it all out to be as yucky, vapid and repulsive as she likes … but strange as it may seem, vast numbers, by hook or by crook, are flooding into the U.S.A. For a better life and the American dream … or so we are told.

And I would bet my last American green back dollar on her screaming bloody murder if she were forcibly exiled to the third world.

Nobody can force me to attend an NFL game, a Nascar rally or a Shakira concert. Nobody can force me to join PETA or go duck hunting. I have a multitude of options If strip mall shopping is not my thing. I am free to vote as I choose, at the ballot box, with my feet or with my wallet. Free to join any house of worship that will have me. Free to stay home and proclaim my cat supreme overlord and protector of my universe … and wait faithfully as he overcomes that opposable thumb vs can opener thing.

]]> By: Dolph http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44328 Dolph Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:39:00 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44328 Europeans, Africans, and Asians can and do overstay their visas. That makes them just as illegal as someone who walks or drives across our borders. In many respects, they are far more dangerous to our society. Europeans, Africans, and Asians can and do overstay their visas. That makes them just as illegal as someone who walks or drives across our borders. In many respects, they are far more dangerous to our society.

]]> By: monticup http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44315 monticup Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:10:23 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44315 Anontwo-- Most illegal aliens ARE Hispanic. Why? Because they can walk across the border in a way Europeans, Africans and Asians can't. There is nothing racist in stating a fact. Anontwo– Most illegal aliens ARE Hispanic. Why? Because they can walk across the border in a way Europeans, Africans and Asians can’t. There is nothing racist in stating a fact.

]]> By: West Gate Witch http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44314 West Gate Witch Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:04:06 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44314 atoo: Why limit the "working under the table" comment to the "white guys" and the hispanics. Women also, do this babysitting and house cleaning first come to mind. Why leave them out of the mix? You aren't singling out just the white and hispanic males are you? BTW-I am way to INDEPENDENT to have cohorts. :) P.S. I don't mind a raise in the minimum wage or union shops. atoo: Why limit the “working under the table” comment to the “white guys” and the hispanics. Women also, do this babysitting and house cleaning first come to mind. Why leave them out of the mix? You aren’t singling out just the white and hispanic males are you?
BTW-I am way to INDEPENDENT to have cohorts. :)
P.S. I don’t mind a raise in the minimum wage or union shops.

]]> By: Dolph http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44310 Dolph Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:55:56 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44310 Anonymoustoo, I had one of those worthless white guys doing over a bathroom this summer. I was out 4k, had to hire another legitimate firm to fix all the mess, and endure the inconvenience. It was definitely a cash situation. No Josh, all white men aren't trash and I think you know that isn't what was being said. However, cash jobs aren't limited to hispanics. Some wonderful white guys rescued me and I even gave them a check. Anonymoustoo,

I had one of those worthless white guys doing over a bathroom this summer. I was out 4k, had to hire another legitimate firm to fix all the mess, and endure the inconvenience. It was definitely a cash situation.

No Josh, all white men aren’t trash and I think you know that isn’t what was being said. However, cash jobs aren’t limited to hispanics.

Some wonderful white guys rescued me and I even gave them a check.

]]> By: anonymoustoo http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44304 anonymoustoo Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:27:25 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44304 Nah, Witch, I'm just pointing out that white guys are guilty of the same thing you're accusing Hispanics of doing (without any proof, BTW)...working off the books. I have to laugh when your cohorts try to become advocates for the same people you're slamming by saying that they're poorly paid. I bet you're the same group that howls if someone mentions raising the minimum wage or creating a union shop. Nah, Witch, I’m just pointing out that white guys are guilty of the same thing you’re accusing Hispanics of doing (without any proof, BTW)…working off the books. I have to laugh when your cohorts try to become advocates for the same people you’re slamming by saying that they’re poorly paid. I bet you’re the same group that howls if someone mentions raising the minimum wage or creating a union shop.

]]> By: West Gate Witch http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44299 West Gate Witch Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:12:53 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44299 Josh: You told Number Two, if your trying to defend the hispanic population you are a mighty poor advocate. I hope they are not paying you because they are getting ripped off if they are. They are already get ripped off by Nancy and her boyz(Ricky and Johnny S). I hope they get ripped off by all of their "advocates", less money to send south of the border. :) Josh: You told Number Two,
if your trying to defend the hispanic population you are a mighty poor advocate. I hope they are not paying you because they are getting ripped off if they are.
They are already get ripped off by Nancy and her boyz(Ricky and Johnny S). I hope they get ripped off by all of their “advocates”, less money to send south of the border. :)

]]> By: anonymoustoo http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44285 anonymoustoo Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:31:11 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2007/12/12/is-the-billboard-coming-down/#comment-44285 Nope, Josh, Medic implied that Hispanics (somehow on this blog all undocumented immigrants end up as Hispanics) were being paid under the table. I just let him know that the guys from whom we'd solicited estimates in the past were all white. I had chosen tradesmen by using my phonebook so I didn't know their race or ethnicity before they arrived at my door. The majority wanted to work off the books. To make it sound as if only Hispanics (who are relatively new to the area in large numbers) were not contributing their fair share in taxes is wrong. Working for cash is/was fairly common. Nope, Josh, Medic implied that Hispanics (somehow on this blog all undocumented immigrants end up as Hispanics) were being paid under the table. I just let him know that the guys from whom we’d solicited estimates in the past were all white. I had chosen tradesmen by using my phonebook so I didn’t know their race or ethnicity before they arrived at my door. The majority wanted to work off the books. To make it sound as if only Hispanics (who are relatively new to the area in large numbers) were not contributing their fair share in taxes is wrong. Working for cash is/was fairly common.

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