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Jackson Miller Endorses Mitt Romney
By RHarrison | 13 December 2007 | National Politics | 70 Comments
Virginia House Delegate Jackson Miller has announced that he will be supporting Mitt Romney in the Republican Presidential Primary. Citing Romney’s extensive experience and record of accomplishment, Miller said he believes Romney is the most capable candidate in the field.
In the past two days, Mitt Romney has been endorsed by the National Review and Michael Novak, two nationally recognized conservative voices. To this Romney can add the voice of one of our leading local conservatives, Jackson Miller. For the past six months, all of the leading Republican candidates have been trying to prove two things: one, that they can win, and two that they are conservative. I think there is little doubt that Romney will match up well against any Democrat. His electoral success in Massachusetts shows that he has cross-over appeal. His rescue of the Salt Lake City Olympics is the type of accomplishment that all voters can support and appreciate. Moreover, he has assembled a first-rate campaign team, raised a ton of money and has run a text-book (if not flawless) campaign to date. He has gone from being unknown to a being leading candidate in a crowded, difficult field. All of this suggests he will do very well in a national election.
Over the past couple of months, a number of rock-solid conservatives have come out for Romney. From Jack Willke (founder of the national Right-to-Life Committee) to Bob Jones III, leading conservatives have decided that Romney supports them and their ideas, and can win.
Romney remains the only candidate on the Republican primary ballot here in Virginia. Friday, December 14th is the deadline for the other campaigns to submit ballot petition signatures. Candidates need to gather 10,000 signatures statewide and at least 400 from each Congressional District to qualify. After the signatures are submitted, the Republican Party has until Wednesday to certify the successful candidates to the state.
We should have a good idea who made it by Friday evening. I understand that the Giuliani campaign is likely to qualify, but that Huckabee is having trouble. He is apparently paying people $1.00 for each signature they gather. Incentives like this, while not unusual or illegal, show a weak volunteer base. Romney did not pay for his signatures.
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Right! He is supporting a guy that will not be tough on illegal immigration. That is fantastic! (sarcasm button off now).
Patriot,
I suspect Miller thought about Romney’s stance on illegal aliens before making his endorsement. No other politician in Virginia has been more active, nor active earlier, on this issue than Miller. He is not going to endorse a candidate who is soft on illegal immigration. And, in fact, he didn’t.
Gee, another RINO gun-grabber.
Just what we need.
I don’t care who or what group supports any candidate. I can make up my own mind as to whom best represents what I feel are important issues and there is only ONE candidate for me… TANCREDO!
Tancredo for me too!
starryflights said “I can make up my own mind as to whom best represents what I feel are important issues and there is only ONE candidate for me… TANCREDO!”
I like him Tancredo too, and principle is great, but sometimes we need to compromise and nominate the candidate who is most likely to win. The only question in MY mind is, “whom might that candidate be”?
:)
Our country simply can not withstand the socialistic ravages of any of the Dems…and thus, we must select the Republican who is the strongest across the board…
This is the kind of logic that gave us Bush…no thanks…never again!
Doubtful that Tancredo makes it on the ballot for the primary. Not a knock against him. I think he’s the best on illegal immigration. Wonder if he’s consider being the VP candidate?
As to Romney’s position on guns, he’s not the best, but far from the worst. Better than Julliani and McCain by a lot.
On guns, taxes, Life, national defense, immigration, all of the GOP candidates are better than any of the Democrat candidates…even kooky Ron Paul. It is a matter of “how much better”.
I started out as a Thompson supporter, considered Rudy for a minute or two, but as the days go on, I like Romney more and more.
I’ve never seen any credible evidence that Mitt is a gun grabber. I grew up in MA. I can tell you there were more rifle, skeet and pistol ranges (nearly every town had a rod and gun club - sometimes two) then there are around these parts. And they were, and are, relatively cheap to join. My family belonged to two of them, within only about five miles of each other. Our neighbors were hunters who were all getting deer (legally) from the woods behind our houses. Part of the paradox of the odd Commonwealth that is MA, especially when you leave the most liberal and populous Boston city/suburb/exburb! You just don’t get it, unless you lived with it. Around here in VA, it’s easier to get a gun in the first place, but you can’t practice shooting it anywhere in NoVA without paying an arm and a leg for the privilege.
Mitt is quite acceptably pro-life. Definitely moreso than Rudy. But I won’t call Rudy a RINO, he’s just a guy with a different (wrong) opinion on an issue that, for me, determines how I vote when the choice presents itself.
I don’t agree with RINO labeling in general. I get it all the time myself, just because I’m from MA people ascribe all sorts of beliefs to me that I don’t have. It is nothing but a disadvantage to be a Republican in MA, especially in the eastern half of the state (think “People’s Republic of Cambridge”). But Mitt is a Republican who did quite well in a generally adverse environment for Republicans, and that, at least, is on his side.
Starryflights, I agree with you. Bush has been positively horrible.
To those of you supporting Tancredo, what are you going to do when he doesn’t make it to the finals? Probably the same thing I will have to do when my candidate doesn’t make it to the finals, if he even gets out of the starting gate….move on to round 2.
Freedom said ‘Our country simply can not withstand the socialistic ravages of any of the Dems…and thus, we must select the Republican who is the strongest across the board…’
Your words are how I feel about George Bush. I am not going to say that he or any of the Democrats are socialists because I don’t believe any are, but geez, I don’t think any of us could survive a clone of Bush either.
starryflights said “This is the kind of logic that gave us Bush…no thanks…never again!”
Well, ya just gotta consider the alternatives…GW has disappointed me in several areas, that’s for sure, but even at that, he has sure been better than either of the alternatives.
So, I’m concerned that a fractured vote is a losing vote…and more important to me than anything is defeating whatever Dem they put up.
Romney will say anything to ensure that his base will turn out for him (despite the fact-and everyone knows it but no one will talk about it, that he’s Mormon and that Republicans won’t vote for him…and the fact that he’s a liar-just admit that you’re not Conservative, we all know it).
Just watch him in the debates; he, Guiliani, McCain and Huckabee will change their stump and their stances on the issues depending on what group their in front of. One example is the illegal issue. When asked on FOX News or by other conservative news outlets all four of them say that we’re not tough enough on illegal immigration and that we need to secure our borders. But when they debate in front of a predominately Hispanic group all four of them said that Bush’s amnesty plan was a good compromise-wait what!?!?! Did I hear that right, oh wait I did, they have no spine.
As Republicans we slaughtered Kerry on flip flopping on not only the war but also on what he said in front of different groups. The Dems will do the same to us, and of course we’ll cry and point fingers saying it’s not fair.
I want to see a candidate that doesn’t care who he’s talking to, doesn’t care who’s filling his campaign account-but actually just says what we are all thinking and what we are all wanting to get done.
Yes, we need to think about who can actually beat the Dems, which frankly and everyone knows-we don’t have much of a chance, but at the same time we need to remember what our party is supposed to be about. If that means that we have to wait another four years to get ready and actually act like the party of Reagan-then so be it.
The Dems waited a long time and cultivated the right people to win this coming year; we need to do the same. Instead of playing defense all the time and instead of picking candidates to run just because they look good in a suit and their wives smile and waive politely, we need to take our time and come out with a vengeance.
My vote goes to Tancredo, even if I have to write him in. People should not settle for whom is on a ballot. They should vote for whom they believe would be the best person for the office of President of the United States. If enough people did this, the people would have a much better say, instead of businesses and special interest groups that throw money at candidates that THEY want in office. We might eventually end up with a President that owes ONLY the citizens of this country and not the big businesses and special interest groups. With the internet, the people now have much more say as to what is going on and they are finding it very easy to group together and make a difference. We defeated the Amnesty Bill. I hope this is just the beginning and we can also get the borders secured.
Anne:
This is slightly off topic, but the 2d Amendment right to keep and bear arms has absolutely nothing to do with hunting, skeet shooting, or any other sport involving guns. It was put there so the populace would have the means to rise up and overthrow an oppressive and unresponsive government (a government not unlike the one we have now). It was put there so the tree of liberty could get refreshed every now and then (to paraphrase TJ).
Sorry, but I can’t trust any politician from Massachussetts, especially one who changes positions with the shift in the political wind. Rudy might be better than Hillary, but not by much. The Huckster is just that - a Huckster. I initially supported Thompson, but if he doesn’t start leaning into the turn he’s going to be an also ran. All in all, it’s a sorry field to choose from. Duncan Hunter looks and sounds impressive, but, like Tancredo, members of the House just don’t get that much exposure.
Obama came out for amnesty. That’s a good thing.
Romney, the guy who resorts to typical Dem class warfare arguments to bash the flat tax.
In 1996:
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/FLAT.jpg
Earlier this year:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0407/3423.html
I find his continued assaults upon the flat tax as “unfair” using Ted Kennedy-style class warfare arguments to be very troubling.
Great…dumb move, Jackson. He’s a flipper-flopper from a cult religion…just what America needs. Nice hair, though. Romney is also from Massachusetts…have you forgotten that? There’s no way in hell that America will vote for someone from liberal land.
ALL HAIL HUCKABEE!!
starryflights said on 13 Dec 2007 at 9:12 am:
“This is the kind of logic that gave us Bush…no thanks…never again!”
So, are you against the good economic times that Bush presided over. Right now, the deficit is at 1.2% of the GDP - lower than the average of the last 40 years. GW understands that NO country has EVER taxed itself to prosperity. Look at any European nation and compare all economic factors to ours and you will see that we truly are living in good times.
Or are you against the fact that Bush met terrorism head on and took the fight to THEIR home. Maybe along these lines you are against the War on Terror and all the advances we are doing over there - yes, Virginia, the IS a Santa Claus. Our men are over there fighting the good fight and killing the bad guys. The number of dead terrorists grows daily and THAT is a good thing.
Could be that you are against Bush because of his pro-life stance. People say that George Bush is unpopular. Well, there are TWO groups that rank CONSISTENTLY lower than GW in popularity, Congress (which is Democrat, by the way) and the media (HEAVILY Liberal).
Only real thing that I and GW cannot find common ground on is immigration and what to do with the illegals. Tancredo? I agree with him on one issue and not too sure of the others. I also have a problem that when it came time for him to serve, he got a 1-Y deferment because of depression. Otherwise, his past conservative credentials look good. All that being said, I like what he said about Miami being a “Third World Country.” lol
I worry about Mitt because, well, he IS a Yankee and their definition of low taxes are A LOT different than a Southerners definition of low taxes. He also has a history problem as shown by his answer to the stupid flag question.
All this being said, I agree with Freedom - the Socialists running under the Democratic ticket (SOMEONE PLEASE change the Democrats colors BACK to Red as it should be!!!) should be enough to scare ALL good English speaking Americans (and those learning to speak English) to rally around our man after the Convention.
Advocator said on 13 Dec 2007 at 9:57 am:
“Anne: …This is slightly off topic, but the 2d Amendment right to keep and bear arms has absolutely nothing to do with hunting, skeet shooting, or any other sport involving guns. It was put there so the populace would have the means to rise up and overthrow an oppressive and unresponsive government (a government not unlike the one we have now).”
Advocator - true, if you have terrorist ties or are an illegal alien, then this government DOES appear to be oppressive.
More AMERICANS died by government agents under Bill Clinton (Waco, as an example) than ANY Republican administration. Even Clinton’s FBI head Louis Freeh said that when investigating the Clinton Administration it reminded him of his days going against the Mafia.
Go back to your cess-pool of a country (Iraq, Iran???) and leave us alone!!!
Anne: When I look at a gun catalog and see what is NOT for sale in
Mass it scares me. A friend who once did time at Ft. Devens told me
“There aint nothin’ but a bunch of turkey herdin’ Pilgrims up there,
and they practice witchcraft too!” LOL!
The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 13 Dec 2007 at 8:14 am:
Right! He is supporting a guy that will not be tough on illegal immigration. That is fantastic! (sarcasm button off now).
Are any of the candidates (both partys) going to be tough? I think not. Tancredo is the only one and he hasn’t a chance of getting the nomination. Thier mouths are moving but nothing is coming out! If Hillery is elected, she will be the first “Latino” president.
John Light (is that like, “Miller Lite”) says, “true, if you have terrorist ties or are an illegal alien, then this government DOES appear to be oppressive.”
I have no terrorist ties, nor am I an illegal, and the US has been my country since birth, but the federal government, whether it’s a Republican or Democrat administration, still seems oppressive and unresponsive to me.
Go back to your Jerry Springer videos.
Vigilant1 said on 13 Dec 2007 at 10:33 am:
“…If Hillery is elected, she will be the first “Latino” president.”
Will that make Bill the first “black ” first-man as he was described by Toni Morrison (Nobel Prize winning author)? Hey, she will will be second known dyke (her heroine Eleanor Roosevelt being the first). Then again, Hill HAS been called “more of a man that Bill” so, who knows - lol.
I do agree with you, though, about the being tough part. What will happen is that they will “compromise” for the sake of “getting the job done” with a hostile congress if “they” are Republicans. However, if “they” are one of the Socialist candidates running for the Dem nomination, then they will either just NOT be tough on immigration, or try to lay the “blame” on Congressional Republicans for making a bill they could not sign, regardless of who is in power and how little power the Rs actually have. You will see that IF the Socialist party wins, Nancy Polosi will be the true victor.
Romney is originally for Michigan. He is not a native “son” of Massachusetts.
In his last month as Governor of Massachusetts, Romney signed an executive order that would have allowed state police officers to make arrests for immigration violations. The order was never implemented because governor-elect Deval Patrick, who had already expressed strong opposition to the order before it was signed, revoked it a month later when he was sworn in
Advocator - again, I don’t watch Springer.
You claim to be American, but I SERIOUSLY doubt your loyalty to this country. Maybe Mother Russia is your place of origin??? No, they are more intelligent and logical than you.
Hmm, possibly one of the “stans”???
More likely, since you are an inciter, I would say that your loyalty is either Cuban or Central American. You advocate nothing but unrest. You and your ilk serve no positive purpose to the debate. You bring nothing to the table but vile and discontent. Be gone!!!
SLB said on 13 Dec 2007 at 10:12 am:
ALL HAIL HUCKABEE!!
We’ve had enough of Arkansas “gomers” in the White House.
Vigilant1 said on 13 Dec 2007 at 10:47 am:
“Romney is originally for Michigan. He is not a native “son” of Massachusetts.”
Kind of like our past couple Governors here in Virginia, eh??? lol Believe me, I am NOT against Mitt and he definitely is no Johnny Come Lately to politics to anyone who has watched the news in, oh, the past decade plus. Please keep us posted on him, enjoy learning about our candidates.
John Light said on 13 Dec 2007 at 10:49 am:
“You claim to be American, but I SERIOUSLY doubt your loyalty to this country. Maybe Mother Russia is your place of origin??? No, they are more intelligent and logical than you.”
and
“You and your ilk serve no positive purpose to the debate. You bring nothing to the table but vile and discontent.”
Um, pot, meet kettle.
I personally have made contributions to one candidate only, TANCREDO!
What I eeally want to know from Jackson Miller is:
Who do you support for Mayor of Manassas City?
I wish I could feel more confident about Romney but he shows an unfortunate tendency to compromise. I’m afraid he may turn out to be a Bush. They are both MBA’s. I’m for Tancredo or Hunter. Maybe Romney would show courage and pick one of them as running mate, if he is nominated.
Turn PW Blue said on 13 Dec 2007 at 11:01 am: “Um, pot, meet kettle.”
Please show one instance of vile because looking back on previous threads, it appears that I get a lot of support from the pro America crowd.
When I look at the people who are against me, it DOES make me look that much better. I do the same with politicans. When I see who certain people support, I vote the other way or at least question my self on a stance I may have taken. Different side to the same coin.
If I have leftists like you and Advocator against me, I MUST be doing SOMETHING right
Dolph said, “Your words are how I feel about George Bush. I am not going to say that he or any of the Democrats are socialists because I don’t believe any are, but geez, I don’t think any of us could survive a clone of Bush either.”
George Bush isn’t running, Dolph….and while I disagree with him on immigration and NCLB, I again say that he’s far better than the alternatives that we had at the time. What we don’t need is another Carter or Clinton!!! …and Hillary or Barack…either of them would make Carter and Clinton look like capitalists, even supporters of democracy, and strong-willed Americans in!
If you believe in wealth redistribution, and it’s YOUR/OUR wealth we’re talking about being redistributed, you will vote for one of those. That is not what has made our country great — we simply can not tolerate a socialist president, it’s just that simple…and a vote for the strongest candidate on a single pet issue will get you just that!! This is really serious, folks…:(
You betcha, John….I’m with you!!!
John Light, I am extremely disappointed in Bush because he refuses to secure our borders and enforce our immigration laws, while he pushes to dissolve our sovereignty and the middle class. What does anything else matter, if you have no country left? He is spending billions on fighting terrorists overseas, yet refuses to secure our borders and ports…why? How can anyone honestly believe we are in a war on terror, when our own President is allowing an illegal alien invasion? I also contributed to Tancredo’s campaign. I have never done this before and only wish I could contribute more.
My number one issue is the illegal immigration problem….Therefore, Tancredo is the candidate that I would like to see as President. But, he will never make it. Yes, as americans we have the right to vote for whomever we wish…But, at what cost! A write-in vote for Tancredo is in effect a vote for Hillary or Obama…Just one more conservative vote not going to the Republican nominee. But, with that said, the pickings are definitely thin on the Republican side. Romney is definitely not a “dyed-in-the-wool” conservative, but a conservative by “convenience.” He is a true flip-flopper in the mold of Bill Clinton and Al Gore. And, that is the BIG problem with him. He is not genuine. In his own words, his politics have “evolved.” He is a liberal, who has flip-flopped on abortion and supported gay rights in the past(see attached). I don’t know about you, but I have little respect for a man who hasn’t solidly formed his political opinions by the age of sixty(Romney’s age). I’m very surprised by Jackson Miller’s endorsement. Though I respect him, perhaps he should do his homework before he approves of a candidate. I do realize that we Republicans have very little to choose from….Giuliani is basically liberal on all but fiscal issues, Huckabee is a “huckster” pretending to be conservative(never trust anyone from Arkansas), McCain is a pro-illegal immigration apologist, Ron Paul is a nut-job, Duncan Hunter is a great guy but can’t win, and Fred Thompson is about as exciting as watching mold form on bread. So, I suppose that if a person feels that they have to endorse someone on the Republican side, Mitt Romney doesn’t look that bad. Though, at this point I think that moldy bread(Thompson) isn’t looking too bad! At least Thompson’s rhetoric and record appear to be conservative. Who knows? Will the real conservative please stand up?
Sorry….I cited an attachment in my prior Post, and forgot to include it. See attached…Thanks.
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/21907.html
I like Romney mostly because I think he is the last, best hope to stave off economic disaster. Need an example? Look at how he saved the SLC Olympics. Look at how much progress he made as MA. Gov. in righting that boat.
Fact of the matter is regardless of the nominee, this country is in for some rough, rough times. The housing bubble bursting is just the spark that will ignite the inferno. Service on the debt (which is owned primarily by Red China), requirements to maintain or even increase welfare-state programs like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare, WIC, and all of the other tax-payer funded hand-outs, Americans continued over-use of credit cards, loan defaults, etc ad. nauseum. Considering that the average middle-class American is in this position:
1. upside-down debt to income ratios, with large sums of unsecured debt.
2. Most are 1-2 paychecks away from having to make some tough economic decisions, and 3-4 away from having to dip into retirement. With this in mind, where will you and your family be when out of work for 6 months to a year?
3. Most spend much (servicing debt or keeping up with the Joneses, not realizing that the Joneses are doing the same thing), and save too little.
4. The dollar’s value is declining to nothing against other currencies. Some countries are contemplating dumping the dollar as a reserve currency. Most of your liquid savings is in dollars, what little of it there is. The dollar is backed by a promise from the Fed, nothing more. Oh…the Fed also has the option to print money to keep banks solvent, bail out lenders, etc.
5. All signs point to a coming Bear market. Remember the 2001 recession? That market was only the 10th worst in history, and it was pretty damned bad. How much value did your 401K lose during that period. Has istfully recovered? Do you even know?
6. Your home is your greatest tangible asset. How much value has it lost? Are you upside-down on that refi you did back in 2004? How about that interest-only 2nd mortgage you took out?
The writing is on the wall people. We are in for some tough economic times ahead. Google “economic collapse” and read what you find. A lot of it is speculation by the kooks, but soon you will see remarks and predictions by the GAO, current Fed Chairman, and some of leading economists in the country that will make you very concerned. Sure, immigration and the 2nd Ammendment are important. You are going to need those guns to protect your families and homes from the hoardes of illegals and MS-13..when the big economic storm hits. However, electing a President who just might be able to get us pointed back in the right direction economically is pretty damn important too.
Or…you can just keep whistling past the graveyard.
Don’t forget, starryflights, most of us are dissatisfied with GW in some respects, but he’s not running…
Freedom,
I know Bush isn’t running, that is why I said ‘clone of Bush.’ As I have said many times here, I am a moderate Independent. That probably makes my job even harder than if I were in one camp or the other. I don’t like any of the candidates of either party except for perhaps one…and the jury is still out on him. He will never get the party nomination so it really doesn’t matter anyway.
I will probably just wait until everyone else has expended all their energy duking it out and chose the lesser of the 2 evils. People’s needs change over time. I know my priorities in leadership have changed over the past decade. I have to keep reminding myself.
starryflights said on 13 Dec 2007 at 11:51 am:
“John Light, I am extremely disappointed in Bush because he refuses to secure our borders and enforce our immigration laws, while he pushes to dissolve our sovereignty and the middle class.”
You and I agree 100% on that. I cannot be more disgusted and have to wonder what the heck is advisors are feeding him concerning illegal immigration and the borders. He is 100% right for the fight on the War Against Terrorism, but he needs to also fight the good fight on the War Against America (illegal border crossings).
All that being said, I would STILL take him over ANY of the Socialists running as Democrats.
BTW, I am throughly enjoying reading about the candidates on this thread. All sides present compelling arguments but it hurts me to say that it appears that those who have the best record when it comes to illegal immigration are weak in other aspects.
Teddy Roosevelt, where are you???
HAHA thats too funny (the part about Huckabee paying for signatures) I collected 800 in a week and I didn’t shell out a single red cent,
As for the Miller endorsement, Romney’s a decent guy but I doubt that one Del. Endorsement actually will turn the tide, especially seeing as how VA has a veryyyyyy late primary. Odds are we’ll know who our candidate is even before super tuesday
The Ghost of Mel Tappan said on 13 Dec 2007 at 12:19 pm:
Excellent points and might I say that the NUMBER ONE problem with this country IS NOT illegal immigration (ducking for cover now, lol) but American’s lack of basic understanding of the economy.
Repeat after me, people, “No country ever taxed itself to prosperity.”
Ask the average American to explain Supply-Side economics and they will have NO idea what you are talking about. Ask the average American if it is a good idea to completely eliminate the minimum wage and they will probably say “no” but have no good economic reason why.
But, ask the average American who won “Dancing with the Stars” or who Oprah is supporting for President, I will bet you get a correct answer.
Dan’l, I was at Devens for three years. (It is, of course, now redeveloped into civilian use.) We were told the post had to close itself to hunters. We had idiots we’d let enter to hunt who wouldn’t obey the warnings and barbed wire sometimes. Most of the idiots appeared to come in from other states, most notably New York. Base legend had it a couple bird hunters got blown up on some WW1 after climbing a fence and ignoring all posted signs, but I never could confirm the legend, so I don’t know if it is true or not. I never thought it was a particularly good place to look for pheasants.
John Light, I think the know what the Second Amendment is about as well as anyone. My point is that it is unrealistic to paint every politician from Massachusetts as if we was from Boston, or as the line goes from the musical 1776, “Not everyone is from Boston, John!” It may be easier to acquire a gun in Virginia, but it’s still a lot easier to practice using it in Massachusetts. And like anything you care to get good at, you need practice. Massachusetts is a weird place, I know it well, but it’s not all liberal Bostonians. When I was in high school in MA, we actually had a rifle club. (And I’m not old, btw.) Could you imagine the liberals in NoVA allowing that in the FCPS? Ha ha!
I roll my eyes at the “right someone in crowd” when it comes down to the wire on election day and we have only two real candidates facing us. I’m with you on that, CW of PWC. I figure Republicans are looking at Mitt or Rudy. I’m not sure about the Democrats, as I think they may end up with Edwards in the end. As far as Romney being a flip flopper on abortion, it seems as though he flopped into the right end of that spectrum. People’s views do evolve. Flip flopping is more like John Kerry - that’s going back and forth on the same issue. Romney gets credit from me for evolving in that he moved along a continuum to decide he wanted to be more pro-lfe. It wasn’t a pendulum motion as far as I’ve observed him.
Wow, this little blog is more lively than the one I usually visit, btw.
Sorry I meant “WW1 discards” and “write someone in crowd.” I was up working way too late last night!
Anne,
Did I address any comments to you? I don’t think so. I was responding to someone else who QUOTED you.
Thanks,
John
Anne,
BTW, while I agree with you on the rifle club in NOVA, if you go to the REST of the Commonwealth you will find more acceptance. NOVA is NOT the Virginia I grew up in
Also, I may have come across as harsh in my reply to you…not meant to be.
John
Anne,
BTW, when I was in The Old Guard, 3rd US Infantry, we would train down at A.P. Hill. One day I got to stay with the Regimental Commander and Company Commanders in the hunting lodge - can you say NIIIICE. Well, evidently (remember, this is 1988) it could sleep 24 people and cost MAYBE $100 a night. The cabins cost like $10 a night. While I never got around to hunting, everyone I knew in the military DID hunt there and they said there was some excellent game to kill.
John
JL:
While I have enjoyed the verbal sparring with you and respect the times you offer your thoughtful opinion, there are those moments when you resort to the more base aspects of debate and ad hominem attacks. That would be the vile part that adds nothing to the debate. When you stick to the strengths of your positions rather than debasing the person who opposes you, you have done more for your cause (in my eyes) than when you try to take the opponent down a notch by resorting to slanderous labels. While I may not agree with many of your political views, I do respect and acknowledge that you have a right to think this way (no matter how wrong I may think you are). When you resort to calling Advocator a less intelligent than someone from Mother Russia or a ’stani or tell someone to get out of *your* country and go some place more accepting of a viewpoint, you aren’t adding much to the debate.
That and the fact that I was going for a cheap shot… *G*
Gee, I can’t even compliment RUSSIANS without getting attacked - lol
Yeah, cheap shots ARE the norm for Dems…I will remember that, thank you.
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To My Republican Friends:
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
Ok. Let’s agree that not everyone from MA is a Boston Liberal, and NoVA doesn’t represent the entire state either. Plus, I don’t think Romney is originally from MA. I don’t really care where someone is from. I just care what their beliefs and values are, their positions on the issues, and most importantly, if they can get elected. Tancredo is a “one trick pony”. We need someone who is good on most if not all the issues. Maybe not perfect, but good. Bush did a good job cutting taxes, which helped stimulate the production of wealth, but he (and the rest of the government) spent like there was no tomorrow, actually putting us on a worse footing.
I cannot say this more strongly. If our economy tanks in a big, big way (and it looks like this is coming) we need someone who can soften the landing, and get us moving towards recovery quickly. Keeping the country safe from terrorists is important. I am not saying it isn’t. However, do you realize how many terror attacks it would take to equal the devestation and misery that would result from a collapse of our economy?
If you don’t think our economy is in bad shape consider this. In 1900, a $20 gold piece could buy you the best suit on the rack. A twenty dollar note could too. That same gold piece could buy you a brand new Colt Peacemaker, and a box of ammo. So could a $20 note. In 1933, the US was taken off the gold standard, by FDR (executive order 6102), and the presses started rolling out currency that has declined in real value ever since. Today, a $20 gold piece (worth $833.35 as of today) will still buy you the best suit on the rack, or a really nice Colt 1911 and a box of ammo. Can you buy the same with a $20 note? No. Why? Inflation? How is inflation greated? It is created by the government. Too much paper money backed by a promise chasing too little tangible wealth. When government needs to expand a program, like the “New Deal” they can raise taxes on businesses and people, and less new wealth is created. When incomes fall to nothing, there are no taxes. Government still prints money, and borrows money from countries willing buy US debt. The money out on the street becomes worthless. the 20th century is full of examples. What happens if other countries who own huge chunks of our national debt, decide to cut their losses and dump their paper? By the time you figure our what’s going on, the run on the banks will have already started and you will be like those in 1920’s Germany, using a wheelbarrow full of money, to buy a loaf of bread.
Think people. We need someone who is a true fiscal conservative. Romney is.
The Ghost of Mel Tappan said on 13 Dec 2007 at 1:42 pm:
“However, do you realize how many terror attacks it would take to equal the devestation and misery that would result from a collapse of our economy?”
Yes, just one. Ask the airline industry how long it took them to recover after 9/11.
Ghost, I agree with so much that you have to offer, really I do. However, one suicide bomber at the right location in Wall Street will REALLY ruin our day!!!
And to add to what Ghost said, look at the number of Europeans flying to New York City to do their shopping because they can get more for their money over here vice at home.
One more thought on the economy. Don’t forget that to all of those countries from which we get all of those illegal aliens “doing the jobs Americans don’t want to do” we are their “rich uncle Sam”. If we are a debtor nation to China, Japan, and the EU, and places like Mexico and El Salvador are dentor nations to us, what happens to their economies when ours tanks? If you think we are up to our necks in illegal aliens now, just wait. Like water, they will flow in here until an equilibrium of poverty is reached.
Yes. We need a president who will secure the border.
Yes. We need a president who will kick ICE in the ass and get the ones we catch deported.
Yes. We need a president who will push to end the stream of cheap illegal labor to business, and punish those who hire illegal aliens.
What we need most of all is a president who will get us on a firm financial footing. reign in spending on social programs, end corn subsidies, tell the Dems that they can no longer buy votes and stay in power by keeping people dependent on the government, and won’t bail out industries that got themselves into trouble by being greedy, and will get the drills going in our proven oil reserves. The economy IS a matter of national security.
John Light,
You do have a point, that this would hurt our already sick economy, but this would be a minor inconvenience in comparison. Tragically, a few thousand might die in the even. Trading would be halted for a few days. Redundant locations would be activated, and trading would begin again.
It is not the terrorists who have built the house of cards. It is the Federal Government, with out-of-control spending on a population grown too dependent on the government, and a population that has conned themselves into believing that “it won’t happen to me”. After 9-11, our economy was down for about two years. What I am talking about is something that will go on for many years, and will make the depression look like a minor recession. All of the elements are there.
On our current path, the US Government will eventually be forced to default on its debt. That won’t stop the printing presses, because people are dependent on those checks from the fed for their survival. People’s only sources of income would end. Those who still had jobs would find that their meager salaries buy less and less, due to hyperinflation. People will be forced to delcare bankruptcy, or just plain walk away from everything. People will get hungry quick, because they either have no money to feed themselves and their families. The government can’t take care of everybody, and hungry people will do some pretty awful things to eachother to feed themelves.
Ghost: Look at the bright side. Your scenario would be one way to get illegals to self-deport. In fact, it may be the only way.
Buy gold, guns, and ammo.
Wouldn’t be nice if John Light could get at least a part-
time job? He has way too much free time on his hands.
Krusty said on 13 Dec 2007 at 3:48 pm:
Wouldn’t be nice if John Light could get at least a part-
time job? He has way too much free time on his hands.
Why don’t you hire him?
Advocator,
You have the right idea. Add to it food, junk silver coins, and anything else you think someone (including yourself) might need because if things fall apart, you will be a rich person.
But while you are stocking up on hard red winter wheat, and .308 ball, we can also do what ever we can to prevent this sort of thing. I am not talking about eliminating the national debt. The only time it went to zero was for a couple of days under Andrew Jackson. Nor should we revert to a barter economy. If I believed this, I’d be supporting Ron Paul, or Lindin Larouche.
What I am talking about is bringing the Fed to heel. Get them to quit spending our money on social programs, subsidies, and other nonsense that isn’t vital to our national interest. True fiscal responsibility that not only cuts taxes, but cuts spending as well. Quit expanding existing social programs, eliminate those that you can, and for the love of all that is sacred, quit proposing more. Universal Healthcare? 401K seed money for every kid born in America? Sometimes I think the Democrats intentionally want to destroy this country with all of the nonsense they propose, and worse pass. Get rid of earmarks and bridges to no where.
The prior Republican controlled congress wasn’t any better. They brought non-defense related spending to a new level. Bush didn’t veto a single spending bill until the GOP lost congress. Now, all of a sudden, he’s a fiscal conservative. Kerry would have been a train-wreck.
We can see the iceberg ahead, but there is still time to do something it if we act quickly. Electing any Democrat as president would be like saying “steady as she goes, full speed ahead”. Electing the wrong GOP candidate wouldn’t be much better. Mitt Romney is the only candidate who I believe can get us moving on the right track, and is good enough on the other stuff. On almost all of it, he’s pretty darn good.
“Krusty said on 13 Dec 2007 at 3:48 pm:
Wouldn’t be nice if John Light could get at least a part-
time job? He has way too much free time on his hands.”
There you go Krusty. Taking cheap shots at people, just like you did where you asked if Senator Chuccinelli had ever heard of planned parenthood. What business is it of yours what people do for a living, or what time of day they post? Is John Light your employee? Is he your son, living in your basement or something? Do comments like these contibute to the debate?
Anne,
I appreciate what you said about people’s views evolving, but Romney’s evolving seems awfully convenient. Mitt Romney suddenly “changed his mind” about abortion after being on this earth for sixty years. Come on. He KNOWS he has to be pro-life to get the nomination. You say that fip-flopping “is more like John Kerry.” Believe me, if the majority of the GOP suddenly turned pro-abortion, Romney would suddenly be pro-abortion. Excuse me, but I want somebody who is going to be President, to be someone who has stood for their convictions for a long time. People evolve when they just get out of college and enter the real world, and finally have to face reality. Most people aren’t really “evolving” much politically at sixty. With that said, I do not hate Mr. Romney. He’s just another politician to me. I would prefer that someone else get the nod. I don’t trust Romney, and as a citizen I’ll do what I can to get someone else elected. But, if Mitt ends up being the GOP candidate, and it’s between him and Hillary, Obama, or Edwards, I’ll vote for Romney. As with many modern elections, I will have to choose between the lesser of the evils. Go Fred!…..(yawn)….ZZZZZzzzzzz….
Krusty said on 13 Dec 2007 at 3:48 pm:
“Wouldn’t be nice if John Light could get at least a part-
time job? He has way too much free time on his hands.”
And wouldn’t it be nice if you got religion and saved, then you would not be posting ignorant comments that we all have come to detest.
Thank’s, Bats. Long time no see. Seems that it is ok when Krusty the Klown posts like crazy but when someone who believes in something other than what she does posts consecutively, cheap shots are taken.
Back to back posts are within one minute apart, Krust. Get over it.
Anonymous, what makes you think John Light would want to work for me, a non-believing sinner?
Batty, If you will remember, I apologized profusely for my Cuccinnelli comment, but I guess you’re not the forgiving type.
And it’s none of my business what people do, when they post, or whether they go to heaven or not. Why is it considered a cheap shot to say what I did? You guys take me waay too seriously. This is for fun, isn’t it? And like Lady Anne said: this is a lively site, much livlier than most I’ve seen
JL ,”Back to back posts are within one minute apart, Krust. Get over it.” You must be writing about yourself because I’ve made ONE, only ONE, comment today; you know the one for which you’re both jumping on me while you have been extremely active. So what’s with the back to back posts?
redawn,
Thanks for posting that link. Hopefully many will read that book, and listen to Pat. He’s got it right. The house isn’t fully engulfed, but I smell smoke and feel heat.
Im sure Romney had paid signature collectors, whether they were paid on salary or by the day or per signature, I seriously doubt Romney had all volunteers.
If I’m wrong, well prove it to me.
Jackson Miller, the most junior member of the House, has an overblown sense of self importance if he thinks anyone cares who he endorses for president. Didn’t take him long to show his overblown ego. Way to go InAction Jackson!
Regarding Anon 7:18 p.m. Finally! What we’ve all been waiting for … Rishell’s political mailpiece writer weighs in! Five words for you … sixty percent of the vote. Yes, I know it is painful, but the first step towards healing is overcoming denial and moving forward onto acceptance.
Sorry, I live in Bob Marshall’s district, and I voted for him. Jackson Miller isn’t the hero you all think he is…he’s a self-centered, what’s in it for me politician. Miller’s endorsement of Romney just means that there’s something in it for himself. Before Miller announced his endorsement he calcuted how it would help him.
Krusty, actually, yes, I WAS writing about myself concerning the back to back posts - geeze, get a life…or a job - lmao
I think anonymous is just mad because his main man forgot to file in the convention that Jackson won. I have known Jackson Miller for years, since way before he ever ran for office. If you think he’s in this for himself, you must be smoking crack or something.
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