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Good Washington Times Coverage On Save The Old Dominon

By Greg L | 20 December 2007 | Illegal Aliens, Virginia Politics | 34 Comments

The Washington Times has a good write-up on the formation of Save The Old Dominion in today’s edition, which should put on notice those illegal alien lobbyists that think they they’ll be allowed to continue to dominate in Richmond during this session of the General Assembly as they did last year.  The citizens are going to take back their government.  The dominance of the illegal alien lobby in Richmond is coming to an end.

The umbrella group, called Save the Old Dominion, was started Dec. 13. A mission statement on the group’s Web site, at www.savetheolddominion.org, says its members are dedicated to “preserving the commonwealth for future generations” and “pursuing legislative action in Virginia to reduce the number of illegal aliens unlawfully present in the commonwealth.”

Here’s what Richmond looked like last year:

As a result, the only thing that got passed out of the General Assembly and enacted was a proposal by Delegate Bob Marshall to study the illegal alien issue.  When Richmond was crawling with illegal alien activists, and business groups that want to ensure that those who could not lawfully be employed could be matched as easily as possible with employers who were not lawfully able to hire them, the interests of the citizens of the Commonwealth got left out of the equation.  This year things might be different.

In the article Delegate Jeff Frederick laid out the obvious political terrain here, and reinforces the idea that citizens can make a difference in what happens in Richmond:

“If they are able to bring together a coalition of people concerned about the issue from around the state, they will be very effective,” he said. “Having reinforcements there with constituents actually coming to the General Assembly and lobbying members to act on the issue will only help. And it definitely will be a good response to what these business interests are trying to do.”

We could just sit back and hope that things will somehow be different if citizens don’t get involved in the legislative process, but doing the same thing and expecting different results would be, well, insane.  The legislative process is just too important to leave it to the special interests and lobbyists to control.  Without effective citizen input, the will of the electorate can too easily be thwarted.  All it takes is for us to actually get involved.

It’s time to get off the couch, Virginians.



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34 Comments

  1. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 20 Dec 2007 at 7:05 am:
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    GREAT! Maybe now Kaine will get the message! Also, we must ensure that we model everything along the lines of how Oklahoma, Sheriff Joe, and Arizona are doing things (particularly legislation that has been brought to court and passed muster).

  2. Andy H said on 20 Dec 2007 at 7:31 am:
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    I’m interested Patriot, could you give a few links to the laws you reference that have passed muster with the courts? Honest question…

  3. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 20 Dec 2007 at 7:35 am:
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    There were recent articles on the web. I do not have time to go look for them. Just google.

  4. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 20 Dec 2007 at 7:38 am:
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    Andy,
    Here is a recent one:
    http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=071213_1__USDis24770
    This judge has it right!

  5. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 20 Dec 2007 at 7:58 am:
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    http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/pol/513023252.html
    Interesting post I found on craigslist.

  6. Gary said on 20 Dec 2007 at 8:19 am:
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    What’s the difference between Save the Old Dominion and Help Save Virginia?

  7. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 20 Dec 2007 at 8:53 am:
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    OT:
    http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/12/arizona_city_renames_christmas.php
    “Arizona city renames Christmas tree under pressure from liberal group”

    Imagine that…the liberals at it again! Hey, you liberals that would support this measure….go to work on CHRISTMAS. It is a CHRISTIAN Holiday to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior! It has nothing to do with anything else!

  8. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 20 Dec 2007 at 8:55 am:
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    You know what else you RIDICULOUS liberals who say using the word or openly celebrating Christmas is unconstitutional? If you are right (which you aren’t), why didn’t George Washington and company ban the word and celebrations of Christmas? Afterall, they were the ones who wrote the Constitution!!!!!

  9. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 20 Dec 2007 at 9:29 am:
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    http://www.lupenet.org/new_site/_contents.php?inc=about1.html&menu=1
    Get a load of this group! Spend some time looking at what they do. RIDICULOUS!!!

  10. park'd said on 20 Dec 2007 at 9:50 am:
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    I swear some days I wake up and can’t figure out if I have landed in the twilight zone with all of these communist liberals making laws in my country, their socialist crap and political correctness. How did these people ever manage to get so much influence? This is absurd.

  11. Herndon Bob said on 20 Dec 2007 at 9:53 am:
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    For Arizona Immigration news this is a great site

    http://www.kpho.com/news/14887955/detail.html

  12. monticup said on 20 Dec 2007 at 10:31 am:
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    park’d–the mainstream media put these lefites in power. The WaPo still manufactures news to its liking but fortunately, their power is waning. We have the Washington Times, blogs and radio now.

  13. Advocator said on 20 Dec 2007 at 10:54 am:
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    Andy H:

    The most important law on this topic will take effect in AZ on New Year’s Day. It’s the Arizona Employer’s Sanction Law. A good explanation of it and a link to the full text is at a Phoenix lawyer’s website: http://www.sackstierney.com/articles/AZEmployerSanctionsLaw.htm.

    Oklahoma and Missouri have both recently passed laws regarding illegals. You can find explanations and links to them at the IRLI website.

  14. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 20 Dec 2007 at 11:59 am:
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    park’d here is more (as if we need more) nonsense!
    http://www.columbusdispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2007/12/15/OLHSCLASS.ART_ART_12-15-07_B1_M08PJ5M.html?sid=101
    Our schools are spending taxpayer money on nonsense to “indoctrinate” our children on poor little old illegal (criminal) aliens! What about science and math?

  15. Princess Billy Bob said on 20 Dec 2007 at 12:05 pm:
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    YOUR schools are not spending money on indoctrination programs. They have all they can handle to cover SOL objectives.

  16. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 20 Dec 2007 at 12:24 pm:
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    Thank God for homeschooling!

  17. Anonymous said on 20 Dec 2007 at 12:33 pm:
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    http://www.ocregister.com/news/tijuana-border-deportees-1942538-police-criminal

    Crime up 300% in Tijuana since ICE stepped up deportation of…..criminals!
    “because of their ciminal records, these migrants now aren’t wanted by anyone…..”

    What the article fails to address is that this is a Mexican problem to solve.
    Even under the “shamnesty” proposals, these people would not be eligible for a “pathway to citizenship” since they have broken the law (armed robbery, firearms offenses, etc).

    I have written Senator Warner (at the federal level) several times to ask why there have been no ICE raids/sweeps in Prince William County and got back a non-committal reply regarding the failure of “Comprehensive Immigration Reform”. He did not answer my question as to why there has been no meaningful ICE activitiy in PWC.

    I have been to Richmond to give testimony (about the need to provide proof of legal status for driver’s licenses) and I can assure you that the open borders advocates, and in particular, advocates aligned with the diocese of Richmond, lie early and often…..so the need for citizens to be vocal in their demands for enforcement at ALL levels of government is important.

  18. Krusty said on 20 Dec 2007 at 12:43 pm:
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    Patriot 9:29 - RIDICULOUS? Lupe Mission Statement:

    “Cesar Chavez founded LUPE, rooted in the belief that members of the low-income community have the responsibility and the obligation to organize themselves, and through their association, begin to advocate and articulate for the issues and factors that impact their lives. Further, Cesar Chavez believed that for people to have ownership of this endeavor, they have to invest of themselves, their efforts and resources, to sustain it. The membership, and the responsibility that comes with it, form the base that is the power of the organization.”

    Sounds very much like what members of Help Save the Old Dominion is doing in its sphere of interest. If you find anything ridiculous in this statement, I’d like to know what that might be.

  19. Krusty said on 20 Dec 2007 at 1:00 pm:
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    …”are doing”

  20. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 20 Dec 2007 at 1:45 pm:
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    Krusty…it is a “latino” only advocacy group (just like NCLR). That is all! Good day! As willy wonka would say!

  21. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 20 Dec 2007 at 1:46 pm:
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    Krusty…just in case you are unaware…policy in the United States should be made for the good of ALL people (not a specific group of people based on ethnicity, etc.).

  22. Mike said on 20 Dec 2007 at 2:18 pm:
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    I can’t wait for the Save The Old Dominion folks to show up at the General Assembly… you’re going to make the work of this supposed “pro-immigrant lobby” so much easier when you stand up in committee and make your extremism clear.

    Full speed ahead!

  23. Krusty said on 20 Dec 2007 at 2:20 pm:
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    The Patriot - What’s ridiculous about it? Every group has its own sub-group working for certain interests. Just like SOD.

  24. AWCheney said on 20 Dec 2007 at 2:27 pm:
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    Gary said on 20 Dec 2007 at 8:19 am:
    “What’s the difference between Save the Old Dominion and Help Save Virginia?”

    Gary, my understanding is Help Save Virginia is a consolidation of local “Help Save” groups formed to educate and disseminate information to the grassroots on the illegal alien issue. Save the Old Dominion, on the other hand, is a PAC formed by member groups to actually lobby on the issue. There would be a big difference, particularly in IRS designation.

    Correct me if I’m wrong here, Greg.

  25. park'd said on 20 Dec 2007 at 2:56 pm:
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    Mike: what’s extreme about telling the government to do its sworn job and enforce the law? Maybe I missed that day in school where people can decide which laws to enforce and which ones not to?? Do you think the STOD folks are going to jump around in their white robes with a burning cross demanding to the GA that everyone brown be deported? Give me a break man. Liberal slander.

  26. anonymoustoo said on 20 Dec 2007 at 3:27 pm:
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    Park’d, don’t you find any irony in this statement of yours in light of the fact that you’ve vowed not to pay any increase in your taxes (real estate), thereby deciding which laws you’ll obey and which you won’t:

    “Mike: what’s extreme about telling the government to do its sworn job and enforce the law? Maybe I missed that day in school where people can decide which laws to enforce and which ones not to??”

  27. Turn PW Blue said on 20 Dec 2007 at 3:32 pm:
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    park’d:

    Is everything you disagree with “liberal slander”? You do realize that when you make such statements you effectively alienate any self-proclaimed liberals who may have shared your concerns about immigration and immigration reform, right?

    Wasn’t it just yesterday that Greg posted an entry about a great anti-illegal immigrant bill sponsored by a…gasp…Democrat? What happened to all the rhetoric about this not being a left or right wing issue?

    Again, you only you do yourself and your cause a disservice when you resort to such ad hominem attacks when the cogent argument escapes you.

  28. Batson D. Belfrey said on 20 Dec 2007 at 4:05 pm:
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    “Sounds very much like what members of Help Save the Old Dominion is doing in its sphere of interest. If you find anything ridiculous in this statement, I’d like to know what that might be.”

    Krusty, you are making this too easy, and now on every thread: You are a socialist.

  29. pwciscool said on 20 Dec 2007 at 4:50 pm:
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    If liberals are attacking christmas then republicans should attack kwanzaa and hannukah

  30. Tom Jefferson said on 20 Dec 2007 at 5:18 pm:
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    Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add ‘within the limits of the law’, because law is often but the tyrant’s will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.

  31. wake the freak up said on 20 Dec 2007 at 5:54 pm:
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    Turn PW Blue said on 20 Dec 2007 at 3:32 pm:
    park’d:

    Is everything you disagree with “liberal slander”? You do realize that when you make such statements you effectively alienate any self-proclaimed liberals who may have shared your concerns about immigration and immigration reform, right?
    —————————————————————————
    Anyone for the rule of law is an extremist, racist, xenophobe, etc and those that sympathize are good souls?

  32. Jane D'oh! said on 20 Dec 2007 at 6:11 pm:
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    pwciscool said on 20 Dec 2007 at 4:50 pm:

    If liberals are attacking christmas then republicans should attack kwanzaa and hannukah

    ——

    Of course not and people who celebrate Kwanzaa and Hanukkah should be equally concerned as it’s freedom OF not freedom FROM religion that we are guaranteed.

    Christians are just “low man on the totem pole” and the target of the Church of the Perpetually Aggrieved Progressives today. Other religions will surely follow.

  33. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k post award) said on 20 Dec 2007 at 6:13 pm:
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    pwciscool, I disagree, we are above that and should lead by example.

  34. Red Woman said on 21 Dec 2007 at 10:00 am:
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    I also disagree, pswiscool. I think it’s more that we’ve accepted tyranny of the minority.

    Hey, when I was a kid, I grew up in a community where about 1/5 of the kids were Jewish and the rest were mostly Irish and Italian Catholics, with a few Protestants and Orthodox Christians thrown in. We were perfectly happy to have Christmas and Hannukah co-existing. It was, dare I say?, fun.

    Where I draw the line is when we start worrying about the relatively small minority that might be in the category of “miscellaneous” as far as December holidays. Yes, there are Hindu kids, and Muslim kids, and (good Lord I’m about to start singing that infamous Denis O’Leary song - you know it - but I won’t go there), there are Jehovah Witness kids and kids of every other affiliation - but they are very much a minority in America. We do not need tyranny of the minority, we just need to tolerate differences and tolerating does not mean accepting as our own. (Note to extreme PC libs: Watch the South Park episode “Death Camp of Tolerance” for a brilliant, easy to understand, explanation of the concept of tolerance. Matt and Trey hit that nail head on.) I’m perfectly happy to accommodate people reasonably, but not at the expense of the majority of people who celebrate mainstream holidays like Christmas and Hannukah. America is a majority Christian country founded on Judeo-Christian ideals. Like it or not. Christmas is still a national holiday here.

    The political correctness in America has gone way too far and I fear we are all to blame. But you know what? - it’s up to you and me as individuals to take it back. Put up a Christmas tree, stick a light up Nativity Scene on the lawn next to Frosty’s inflatable snow globe, and wish everyone you know, as applicable, a “Merry Christmas,” a “Happy Hannukah” and/or a “Happy New Year.” If a store does wish you a Merry Christmas, then do not shop there, and pen their customer complaint department a letter to tell them why you are not shopping there. They probably told their employees not to wish you Merry Christmas after one or two complaints, so send more than that number of complaints the other way and they’ll have to make an economic decision, you see! That has worked in the past on a couple major retailers.

    I’m off to put lights on the Festivus pole. LOL.

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