Nothing should be handed out. You should work for it. The more you hand out, the more people will be coming around looking for it. Why work if you can have all of your necessities provided?

Give a man a fish…
and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.

Well Bayberry, you may want Redawn or others to believe you are not critical of them or calling them names, as you claim above, BUT from what I have seen from you ever since, and including, your very first post on BVBL, you are a name calling finger pointer who does not have a fraction of the class the old-timers on this blog have. You owe MANY apologies!
All you do is criticize and condemn others.
What is with you?

You should look into your own soul and try to find out why you do this.

This wicked crap has to stop. A curse on all who have made this little girls hell possible, plausable and profitable. From her mother , her “escort”, all the way up to the White House. To hell with the lot of you.

(Deep Breath)

We are being taught to tolerate the intolarable for a reason.

So who was it who referred to the Constitution as a “just a g*d****ed peice of paper”? Maybe the same guy pushing real hard for an amnesty right now?

http://www.wtnh.com/Global/story.asp?s=7557897

When the ILLEGAL aliens are deported, whether it is self deportation or through federal means, the sooner our country will come around. I was using the great depression analogy to show that when people have to work, they WILL work for whatever wage they can get. Just like the working poor do today. Life is about choices, you determine the path by choice. Everyone can get an education just by applying themselves to get one. There are grants and tuition assistance programs out there that will enable ANYONE to get an education if they try hard enough.

Nothing should be handed out. You should work for it. The more you hand out, the more people will be coming around looking for it. Why work if you can have all of your necessities provided?

“Whatever the causes, the consequences of the Great Depression were staggering. In the cities, thousands of jobless men roamed the streets, looking for work. It wasn’t unusual for 2,000 or 3,000 applicants to show up for one or two job openings. If they weren’t looking for work, they were looking for food. Bread lines were established to stop people from starving. And more than a million families lost their houses and took up residence in shantytowns made up of tents, packing crates, and the hulks of old cars. They were called “Hoovervilles,” a mocking reference to President Hoover, whom many blamed (somewhat unfairly) for the mess the country was in.

Thousands of farmers left their homes in states like Oklahoma and Arkansas and headed for the promise of better days in the West, especially California. What they found there, however, was most often a backbreaking existence as migrant laborers, living in squalid camps, and picking fruit for starvation wages.”

If you want to talk treason, “The Truth,” perhaps you should consider the violation of the Constitutional mandate of our government to protect our nation from invasion by foreign nations…and I would think that millions of foreign nationals illegally flowing across our borders would constitute an invasion, particularly since they are being encouraged by their native countries to invade us. Technically speaking, those of this country who allow and encourage this unimpeded flow are, in fact, guilty of treason. Guantanamo could get rather crowded.

You took the words right out of my mouth AWC. In my point of view, anyone who aids and abets this foreign invasion is already a traitor to the country. Waving a wand and granting “instant citizenship” to 30 million invaders would be the equivalent of pulling out the Constitution and taking a wizz on it and in my eyes would be an act of treason. It won’t happen anyway so there is no use speculating on it. Worst case they will be forced to pay fines, learn English and a host of other wrist slapping escapades. Best case, they will have all the jobs and opportunities dry up on them as states start to “grow a pair” and enforce existing laws and will therefor deport themselves.

Do the invaders have no moral restraints - or is it only those who are unwilling to surrender and submit who commit moral turpitude?

If I refuse to submit to some guys uninvited advances, does that make me bad, selfish, sexist? And should I care that he might think me a bitch for my non compliance? Do I allow him to have his way out of fear that he might thing ill of me otherwise? Do I just say oh well, what the hell, if he claims that he is needy and it’s been a while since his last date? Do his needs and desires outweigh my rights? Do I have any rights or only obligations?

Of course the issues are complex and multi-dimentional!

And that is why some do not buy all the simplistic pity party propagand that paints all “immigrants” as needy neglected children simply hungry for a few crumbs - suffering, lonely, disenfrachised, lost and looking for love.

When the only thing you can rely on to get what you want is emotional blackmail and manipulation, then you will get ignored. It is just another attempt to squelch debate -as is indulging in personal attacks.

We all understand and empathize with the reasons why some people choose to enter nations illegaly. But empathy alone does not justify illegal immigration. Billions of people could improve their lives by illegaly immigrating.

Park’d, as improbable as the scenario of millions of people being automatically given citizenship is, the federal government would be the entity to do so. Like it or not, the Feds are our representatives, our mouthpiece, our government. To take up arms against our representative form of democracy because of something which it did that might not please you (the improbable giving of citizenship) would be treasonous in my opinion. Tell me how it would be different from those of us who don’t support the government’s position in Iraq taking up arms to overthrow it? There’s a way to address these issues and that’s with our votes…as Pollyannaish as that may seem.

I suggest everyone ignore The Truth, who is clearly incapable of knowing the truth.

I’ve met several from here face to face too. By the same token, I still think even the ones we know still have their anonymity. I’m confident the quite a few have their alter egos they post under from time to time.

Calling this migration an invasion is very dangerous rhetoric that is already getting people killed.

An invasion involves a military assault and capture of territory. Kinda like what we are doing in Iraq. DOH!
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Ok Truth, I guess you do not know the definition ofinvasion, so, I looked it up for you:

American Heritage Dictionary
in·va·sion (ĭn-vā’zhən) Pronunciation Key
n.

1. The act of invading, especially the entrance of an armed force into a territory to conquer.
2. A large-scale onset of something injurious or harmful, such as a disease.
3. An intrusion or encroachment.

While one definition is the entrance of armed forces, it is not the ONLY meaning.

This is an intrusion into the US through our porous borders. Hence, this is why people call it an INVASION. It appears to me, IMHO, you do not see shades of gray only black and white. You would be better suited in life to see those shades of gray, IMHO.

As far as your other question BOTH are equal:

A) They are law breakers. They do not belong here and have entered the country ILLEGALLY. They have invaded.

B) You really don’t get out past the main stream media do you. I would suggest you read more before regurgitating all of the rhetoric of the liberals.
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Not all is anonymous IT, I have met one person from this blog face to face and spoken on the phone with another. It is
anonymous if you make it such.