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	<title>Comments on: Open Thread</title>
	<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/</link>
	<description>Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics.</description>
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		<title>By: Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51588</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 00:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51588</guid>
		<description>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/25/AR2008012503272.html

Don't think for one second that all of central america is not watching our election.</description>
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<p>Don&#8217;t think for one second that all of central america is not watching our election.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51587</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 00:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51587</guid>
		<description>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/25/AR2008012503172.html

What do criminals do when they're not working due to the housing slump? I guess burglary isn't lucrative in Mexico...</description>
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<p>What do criminals do when they&#8217;re not working due to the housing slump? I guess burglary isn&#8217;t lucrative in Mexico&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51578</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51578</guid>
		<description>http://www2.hernandotoday.com/content/2008/jan/26/ha-anchor-babies-weigh-down-economy/

http://www.nj.com/news/times/index.ssf?/base/news-4/120132395991540.xml&#38;coll=5

http://www.kpho.com/news/15137233/detail.html

Enjoy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www2.hernandotoday.com/content/2008/jan/26/ha-anchor-babies-weigh-down-economy/" rel="nofollow">http://www2.hernandotoday.com/content/2008/jan/26/ha-anchor-babies-weigh-down-economy/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.nj.com/news/times/index.ssf?/base/news-4/120132395991540.xml&amp;coll=5" rel="nofollow">http://www.nj.com/news/times/index.ssf?/base/news-4/120132395991540.xml&amp;coll=5</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.kpho.com/news/15137233/detail.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kpho.com/news/15137233/detail.html</a></p>
<p>Enjoy!</p>
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		<title>By: starryflights</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51552</link>
		<dc:creator>starryflights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51552</guid>
		<description>I also don't understand who in Northern VA would vote for HC or Obama when they cut off the Middle Class at $100.000 (H.C.) and $97,000 (Obama).  Most people in Northern VA make good salaries, above these numbers and believe they are in the Middle Class.  Beware that if HC or Obama get elected, your taxes WILL be raised.  Romney does extend the Middle Class cut off to $200,000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also don&#8217;t understand who in Northern VA would vote for HC or Obama when they cut off the Middle Class at $100.000 (H.C.) and $97,000 (Obama).  Most people in Northern VA make good salaries, above these numbers and believe they are in the Middle Class.  Beware that if HC or Obama get elected, your taxes WILL be raised.  Romney does extend the Middle Class cut off to $200,000.</p>
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		<title>By: dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51537</link>
		<dc:creator>dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 16:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51537</guid>
		<description>Feed the world through addictive behavior.  

Check out the website.  It will improve your vocabulary.

http://www.freerice.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feed the world through addictive behavior.  </p>
<p>Check out the website.  It will improve your vocabulary.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.freerice.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.freerice.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: starryflights</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51490</link>
		<dc:creator>starryflights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 02:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51490</guid>
		<description>I just read the following from the Potomac News website:

"""Del. L. Scott Lingamfelter, R-Dale City, wants to create an Office of Immigration Assistance with HB 1174, which received positive feedback from the Virginia Coalition of Latino Organizations.

The agency would help immigrants who are on the path to citizenship with employment, housing and other services. Lingamfelter said it could cost about $500,000 to establish the agency and keep it running for the next two years.

"We applaud the delegate and support the bill's intent," said Andres Tobar, chairman of the Virginia Coalition of Latino Organizations.""""


Why is Lingamfelter willing to waste our money on this?  Why do immigrants ( I hope this is Legal and not ILLEGAL), need their own agency and at taxpayers expense.  I am very disappointed in Lingamfelter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read the following from the Potomac News website:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;"Del. L. Scott Lingamfelter, R-Dale City, wants to create an Office of Immigration Assistance with HB 1174, which received positive feedback from the Virginia Coalition of Latino Organizations.</p>
<p>The agency would help immigrants who are on the path to citizenship with employment, housing and other services. Lingamfelter said it could cost about $500,000 to establish the agency and keep it running for the next two years.</p>
<p>&#8220;We applaud the delegate and support the bill&#8217;s intent,&#8221; said Andres Tobar, chairman of the Virginia Coalition of Latino Organizations.&#8221;"&#8221;"</p>
<p>Why is Lingamfelter willing to waste our money on this?  Why do immigrants ( I hope this is Legal and not ILLEGAL), need their own agency and at taxpayers expense.  I am very disappointed in Lingamfelter.</p>
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		<title>By: dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51477</link>
		<dc:creator>dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 00:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51477</guid>
		<description>Medic,

Thanks.  I knew what it meant to extend an olive branch but I seriously didn't know what breaking it in 2 meant.  

COM,

I just think we are going to have to hang this one up.   If I have an elitist attitude, I guess I can live with that.  I have never seen myself as that.   I think we are beating a dead horse.  I am saying high school graduates don't want to do menial labor.  That is all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Medic,</p>
<p>Thanks.  I knew what it meant to extend an olive branch but I seriously didn&#8217;t know what breaking it in 2 meant.  </p>
<p>COM,</p>
<p>I just think we are going to have to hang this one up.   If I have an elitist attitude, I guess I can live with that.  I have never seen myself as that.   I think we are beating a dead horse.  I am saying high school graduates don&#8217;t want to do menial labor.  That is all.</p>
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		<title>By: /\/\3&#124;)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award)</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51051</link>
		<dc:creator>/\/\3&#124;)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51051</guid>
		<description>LOL...exactly.  Many hard heads that can't quite seem to get it.  Maybe enough beating about the head and ears will eventually let them see the light.

My favorite sign:

The beatings will continue until moral improves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL&#8230;exactly.  Many hard heads that can&#8217;t quite seem to get it.  Maybe enough beating about the head and ears will eventually let them see the light.</p>
<p>My favorite sign:</p>
<p>The beatings will continue until moral improves.</p>
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		<title>By: CitizenofManassas</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51050</link>
		<dc:creator>CitizenofManassas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51050</guid>
		<description>Correction...  That in turns allows the elites and the companies to say Americans will not do such jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction&#8230;  That in turns allows the elites and the companies to say Americans will not do such jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: CitizenofManassas</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51046</link>
		<dc:creator>CitizenofManassas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51046</guid>
		<description>Dolph,

This is not about showing how much travel one may have.  It is about debunking the myth there are jobs that Americans do not want to do or will not do.   As I said, I have had the opportunity to travel to every region of our Nation over the last ten years, and have dined at fast food restaurants, local dives, National chains and just about every type of Establishment in between.    I have stayed at locally owned and Nationally owned chains.   I have stopped at gas stations of all types, and food stores.  I have seen plenty of Americans working jobs that our elites have told us we will not do, or do not want to do.  I have seen plenty of construction workers, and the same goes for that.   Even the guys on the neighborhood trash truck are white or black.  

There are no shortage of American workers in such places as Erie, Pa, South Bend, In, Clearwater, Fl,  Tucson AZ, to name just a few places, I have seen in those towns Americans hard at work doing jobs the elites say we simply refuse to do.    Even going to a major city like Philadelphia, Pa, there are plenty of Americans at work in those types of jobs. 



You offered nothing in defense of your elitist attitude with regard to American workers, in fact, I am really shocked that it is coming from you. 

We do have guest worker programs that allow workers to come in.  The problem starts though, when companies pay these workers a lower wage, which creates an issue where Americans simply cannot afford to live on such a wage.  That in turns allows the elites and the companies to say Americans will do such jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dolph,</p>
<p>This is not about showing how much travel one may have.  It is about debunking the myth there are jobs that Americans do not want to do or will not do.   As I said, I have had the opportunity to travel to every region of our Nation over the last ten years, and have dined at fast food restaurants, local dives, National chains and just about every type of Establishment in between.    I have stayed at locally owned and Nationally owned chains.   I have stopped at gas stations of all types, and food stores.  I have seen plenty of Americans working jobs that our elites have told us we will not do, or do not want to do.  I have seen plenty of construction workers, and the same goes for that.   Even the guys on the neighborhood trash truck are white or black.  </p>
<p>There are no shortage of American workers in such places as Erie, Pa, South Bend, In, Clearwater, Fl,  Tucson AZ, to name just a few places, I have seen in those towns Americans hard at work doing jobs the elites say we simply refuse to do.    Even going to a major city like Philadelphia, Pa, there are plenty of Americans at work in those types of jobs. </p>
<p>You offered nothing in defense of your elitist attitude with regard to American workers, in fact, I am really shocked that it is coming from you. </p>
<p>We do have guest worker programs that allow workers to come in.  The problem starts though, when companies pay these workers a lower wage, which creates an issue where Americans simply cannot afford to live on such a wage.  That in turns allows the elites and the companies to say Americans will do such jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51044</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51044</guid>
		<description>http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/18/us/18hide.html?_r=2&#38;pagewanted=1&#38;th&#38;emc=th&#38;oref=slogin
When the NYTimes admits it, we must be doing something right!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/18/us/18hide.html?_r=2&amp;pagewanted=1&amp;th&amp;emc=th&amp;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/18/us/18hide.html?_r=2&amp;pagewanted=1&amp;th&amp;emc=th&amp;oref=slogin</a><br />
When the NYTimes admits it, we must be doing something right!</p>
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		<title>By: Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51042</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51042</guid>
		<description>http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/01/montana-governo.html
...hope he doesn't call out the Militia.</description>
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&#8230;hope he doesn&#8217;t call out the Militia.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51040</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51040</guid>
		<description>http://idexer.com/2008/01/23/chess-not-checkers-mexican-meddling.html
Gosh, could we and the majority of Americans be the so-called "small group"?
Just for fun, try to count how many buzzwords, phrases and illegal alien myths that the good Ambassador used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://idexer.com/2008/01/23/chess-not-checkers-mexican-meddling.html" rel="nofollow">http://idexer.com/2008/01/23/chess-not-checkers-mexican-meddling.html</a><br />
Gosh, could we and the majority of Americans be the so-called &#8220;small group&#8221;?<br />
Just for fun, try to count how many buzzwords, phrases and illegal alien myths that the good Ambassador used.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandrianagainstillegals</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51032</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexandrianagainstillegals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51032</guid>
		<description>http://www.city-journal.org/2008/18_1_blacks_and_immigration.html

Interesting article. Long, but worth the read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.city-journal.org/2008/18_1_blacks_and_immigration.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.city-journal.org/2008/18_1_blacks_and_immigration.html</a></p>
<p>Interesting article. Long, but worth the read.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51028</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51028</guid>
		<description>Bridget-
Good stuff, and proves the point that cheap labor only lines the pockets of the business owners. I'd be glad to pay more for products and services provided by legal workers. Being an employee of Uncle Sam, I get paid on the GS scale, (and Bush is even trying to take THAT away) so profits don't reach me. I was raised middle class in northern VA and worked 2 jobs at a time from high school until I was 32, because I needed the money. Don't anybody be fooled by the dirty jobs mantra!
There's a great letter in today's Op Ed Wash. Times called "open borders and corporate greed" about J. Willard Marriott Jr.'s speech on why we should tolerate illegal aliens so that he can get richer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bridget-<br />
Good stuff, and proves the point that cheap labor only lines the pockets of the business owners. I&#8217;d be glad to pay more for products and services provided by legal workers. Being an employee of Uncle Sam, I get paid on the GS scale, (and Bush is even trying to take THAT away) so profits don&#8217;t reach me. I was raised middle class in northern VA and worked 2 jobs at a time from high school until I was 32, because I needed the money. Don&#8217;t anybody be fooled by the dirty jobs mantra!<br />
There&#8217;s a great letter in today&#8217;s Op Ed Wash. Times called &#8220;open borders and corporate greed&#8221; about J. Willard Marriott Jr.&#8217;s speech on why we should tolerate illegal aliens so that he can get richer.</p>
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		<title>By: Bridget</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51026</link>
		<dc:creator>Bridget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51026</guid>
		<description>Medic,

Thank you kindly. Just doing my humble bit for the resistance. 

Often feels like trying to turn a tanker around with one arm and a canoe paddle! Make that a tanker filled with tomatoes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Medic,</p>
<p>Thank you kindly. Just doing my humble bit for the resistance. </p>
<p>Often feels like trying to turn a tanker around with one arm and a canoe paddle! Make that a tanker filled with tomatoes.</p>
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		<title>By: /\/\3&#124;)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award)</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51009</link>
		<dc:creator>/\/\3&#124;)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51009</guid>
		<description>Bridget,

I do enjoy your informative articles.  TY for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bridget,</p>
<p>I do enjoy your informative articles.  TY for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: /\/\3&#124;)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award)</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51008</link>
		<dc:creator>/\/\3&#124;)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51008</guid>
		<description>One Vocie,

I did apologize for crediting you with a post which was not yours.

If you feel that way about being fooled, it can be said for me as well.

I was trying to engage in small conversation with you.  I was trying to be civil and strike up dialog.

I made the effort to get along and if you wish to not go that way, I will take back the branch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One Vocie,</p>
<p>I did apologize for crediting you with a post which was not yours.</p>
<p>If you feel that way about being fooled, it can be said for me as well.</p>
<p>I was trying to engage in small conversation with you.  I was trying to be civil and strike up dialog.</p>
<p>I made the effort to get along and if you wish to not go that way, I will take back the branch.</p>
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		<title>By: /\/\3&#124;)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award)</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51007</link>
		<dc:creator>/\/\3&#124;)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51007</guid>
		<description>dolph,

I have tried to respond to One Voice's comments (olive branch) which goes against the ignore I was doing earlier.  I had apologized to her for saying she made a comment which I got confused about.

It is best explained here:
http://www.answers.com/topic/olive-branch

To break it in two means you do not wish to accept it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dolph,</p>
<p>I have tried to respond to One Voice&#8217;s comments (olive branch) which goes against the ignore I was doing earlier.  I had apologized to her for saying she made a comment which I got confused about.</p>
<p>It is best explained here:<br />
<a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/olive-branch" rel="nofollow">http://www.answers.com/topic/olive-branch</a></p>
<p>To break it in two means you do not wish to accept it.</p>
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		<title>By: One Voice</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/01/21/open-thread-999/#comment-51004</link>
		<dc:creator>One Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Medic

I was not even aware that the branch had been extended - however I sense by your words "and if you want to break it in two and toss it back, that is fine. I have made an effort to be civil" that you are once again ready and waiting to pounce on me.

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

I think it's in my best interest to pass.  Just handing the branch back, no need to "break it in two and toss...".  Just handing it back.</description>
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<p>I was not even aware that the branch had been extended - however I sense by your words &#8220;and if you want to break it in two and toss it back, that is fine. I have made an effort to be civil&#8221; that you are once again ready and waiting to pounce on me.</p>
<p>Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s in my best interest to pass.  Just handing the branch back, no need to &#8220;break it in two and toss&#8230;&#8221;.  Just handing it back.</p>
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