I agree that is why I support guest worker programs, and have said so here many times(on the blog). As I said the numbers can be adjusted as needed. At this time with unemployment up and the future not looking too bright, I would hope the Feds do not increase the numbers any time soon.

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Don’t you love how the special interest groups are always agitating for more of our tax money for funding, support, assistance and services - yet in a heartbeat will make the claim that without their exclusive constituents, we would be without those never-before-seen in the U.S. traits of work ethic and family values.
Sort of a “You need us to get what we want” deal.

Andres Tobar is the fat and happy middleman in a race-based wealth distribution gambit.

And don’t ever forget, folks, racial profiling is an abuse, unless it’s being used to pick your pockets.

http://www.vdare.com/sailer/060522_bush.htm

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http://www.vdare.com/francis/under_control.htm

http://www.vdare.com/letters/tl_120705.htm

http://www.vdare.com/guzzardi/070831_rotting.htm

http://www.vdare.com/sutherland/permanent.htm

http://www.vdare.com/letters/tl_032903.htm

I do not know how else to say it. I am talking about LEGAL workers coming to the United States. If we say they can come in and give them proper government documentation, they will not be illegal. Secondly, our current guest worker program is not satisfactory to business, according to what I have read.

I do not want to open the flood gates. I want to accommodate the needs of our country, not vice versa.

Why doesn’t the Faisal-Gill-endorser Cuccinelli pass bills about the Iraq War and the fighing in Kenya while he is at it?

We have guest worker programs and they are adjusted as needed. But to reward illegals with legal status is just wrong.

I suppose we can allow legal immigration of every single person who wants to come to America, it will after all create new markets, but at what point do we put a limit on it? Or, we can just open up for every single person the World. I think we can handle another 6 billion people living in our Country. Just think about the job market then?

I don’t think I am the elitist here but I have been called a lot worse things.

I just know that people who graduate from high school do not expect to work in a burger place or do menial labor. If graduation is the expectation of all American high school students, who is going to be able to do the work that needs to get done?

I have not mentioned prices going through the roof. I just do not think people with skills want to do non skilled labor. America cannot run its labor force on teenagers not yet out of high school.

There really isn’t anything else to say. Either we set the educational bar a lot lower for our kids or we find a way to provide workers from countries that do not educate their kids. Supply and demand will mandate it.

Many places demand at least a high school diploma these days. Teenagers work during the summer and after school, and while in college. The next generation then takes the place of those workers who have moved on.

It is not that people(not teenagers, but adults) should expect to take such jobs, but end up in such jobs for any number of reasons. Maybe a house wife just wants to earn a few extra dollars and works part-time while her kids are in school.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0124englishcosts0124.html

as one commenter mentioned “not only do we have to deal with forced colonization by another country, but we have to pay for them to do it”

does that seem very fair? not in my world

although I have no problem with the proper visa’s being issued to foreign workers I think they should be limited (and they are). If they want to work here permanently they should gain citizenship the right way.

I dont think we “need” anything, the country should drive to be as self-sufficient as possible and that includes importing foreign workers. There is all this talk about becoming self-sufficient on energy resources, we should be self-sufficient on labor as well.

I think there are always going to be people to fill the jobs. I’m not for immigration elimination by the way, I’m for controlled immigration the way it should be (like many other countries). There is also a security factor involved here as well, I for one would love to rest assured the govt. knows everyone coming through our borders but the fact remains is that they dont and this needs to be fixed.

we do have all sorts of components to the welfare system, but If I remember correctly one of the goals of the welfare system is to assist people with getting off it i.e. providing job locating assistance, etc..people who really want to get off welfare will take whatever job they can find to do it. There is the fill for the vacuum of jobs currently filled by illegal labor. Not a perfect solution, but I’m sure it will help bridge the gap some.

Yea, but we have a welfare system. That is the problem with your argument. And more than a welfare system, we have all sorts of components that are part of a welfare system.

Sure, there are always going to be Americans to do those nasty jobs…but will there be enough Americans to do them? I am looking very broad-based when I ask the questions.

It just sounds like to me, that most people on bvbl want to illiminate immigration to this country. That is a whole other issue. I see a need for foreign workers. If we give them permission to be here, based on business need, then they will not be illegal.

For the record, I can accept we don’t want them easier than I can accept we don’t need them. The later simply is not true. The former is an opinion.

There are people out there that when they get hungry enough, they will do those “nasty little jobs”. Remove the welfare system and make people work. If we can not get rid of the welfare system, then they have to do work for the benefits and welfare will supplement. There, you have your workers.

as far as the non-desirable jobs, there will always be people to fill them. Create a vacuum and something will eventually fill it up. I wasnt a kid too long ago and I worked during high school and college at various jobs. They were always easy to find and I always had money in my pocket as well as college paid for. When my kids get old enough, they will work as well. Although their college will be paid for, they will be expected to contribute a significant sum by proving some work ethic.

I’m sure there are many parents who think like me.

and what about all those people on welfare, they need jobs…perfect opportunity to fill that vacuum I mentioned earlier.

I don’t think I am the elitist here but I have been called a lot worse things.

I just know that people who graduate from high school do not expect to work in a burger place or do menial labor. If graduation is the expectation of all American high school students, who is going to be able to do the work that needs to get done?

I have not mentioned prices going through the roof. I just do not think people with skills want to do non skilled labor. America cannot run its labor force on teenagers not yet out of high school.

There really isn’t anything else to say. Either we set the educational bar a lot lower for our kids or we find a way to provide workers from countries that do not educate their kids. Supply and demand will mandate it.

I replied to your last post in the open thread, but it appears there is an issue with that thread.

To recap my post. My post was not about who has traveled, rather it was to call attention to the fact that Americans are doing jobs the elites say we are not doing. From fast food workers to maids to janitors to construction workers. From Erie, PA to Tucson, Az over to Clearwater, Fl, there are no shortages of Americans willing to do those types of jobs. Do you think every teenager has rich parents to provide them with spending money? Many adults find no shame in doing such jobs.

I am shocked that you hold such an elitist point of view.

Prices will not go through the roof, that is another scare tactics of those that just want to continue to use illegals.

How cool is this?

http://www.robots-dreams.com/2008/01/new-robot-suit.html

We put a man on the moon. For crying out loud. We can do better.