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Open Thread

By Greg L | 27 January 2008 | Uncategorized | 95 Comments

From the way some of the comment threads have turned, it looks like it’s time for another open thread.

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  1. Good Time Charlie said on 27 Jan 2008 at 7:59 pm:
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    I’m sure you have been asked this question more times than you can count……….but how did you come up with the name for this web site?

  2. redawn said on 27 Jan 2008 at 8:05 pm:
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    Who is going to cast the first stone?

  3. alexandrianagainstillegals said on 27 Jan 2008 at 8:12 pm:
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    Ok back to McCain…

    As for McCain’s hispanic director….Dr. Juan Hernandez…who btw was a previous advisor to Mexico President Vicente Fox..a person who has dual citizenship with both Mexico and the USA

    He is scary.

    Text from a spot with tucker and tancredo

    And here’s Tom Tancredo recounting how Hernandez told him that Mexico and the U.S. are not two separate countries, but “just a region:”

    TANCREDO: I had a great argument one time with a gentleman by the name of Juan Hernandez who was at that time the minister of that ministry that I just mentioned, the Ministry for Mexicans Living in the United States.

    And I asked him that very question. What he told me the purpose of his ministry was to push people into the United States, it was to—by the way, it was also AFC work with them so that they did—he was with the community, he said. He was three days a week in the United States, four in Mexico.

    By the way, he himself is a dual citizen born in Texas, university—teaching at the University of Texas and on the Vicente Fox cabinet. And he said, “I work with the community in the United States, the Mexican community because I don‘t want them essentially going native on us. We want them continually tied emotionally, linguistically, politically to Mexico, because then they‘ll continue to send money home.”

    And I said to him, that does not sound like—you know, you‘re doing something that‘s actually the act of an unfriendly government.

    CARLSON: Well, of course, it doesn‘t in any way serve American interests. It undermines our country in a pretty direct and direct and obvious way.

    TANCREDO: Tucker, his response. Let me tell you his response.

    CARLSON: Yes.

    TANCREDO: At the end he goes, “Congressman,” in an incredibly condescending way. He goes, “Congressman, it‘s not two countries; it‘s just a region.”

    CARLSON: That is not my view, to put it mildly.

    TANCREDO: Not mine either.

  4. alexandrianagainstillegals said on 27 Jan 2008 at 8:25 pm:
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    Another OT post: Bill Clinton and Arnold Schwarzenegger want to make banking easier for illegal immigrants


  5. CitizenofManassas said on 27 Jan 2008 at 8:57 pm:
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    I am going to call the cop shop on Monday to inquire about the immigration status of the three suspects arrested last week on 20 or so burglaries charges. The crimes centered on GTS and Wellington. They all have different last names but the same home address. They were also targeting illegals, since the police report mentioned they feel there are more victims that have not come foward…

  6. monticup said on 27 Jan 2008 at 9:30 pm:
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    Check out www.michellemalkin.com if you want to learn more about Dr. Juan. He always has a smile on his face no matter what he’s saying. He’s scary, like a clown.

  7. starryflights said on 27 Jan 2008 at 9:46 pm:
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    I saw the article on Malkin’s site earlier in the week. So many people in this country, trying to undermine us. Will we get a handle on it, before it’s too late? Too many citizens are sleeping, while our country is being taken over.

  8. Greg L said on 27 Jan 2008 at 9:49 pm:
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    GTS, I didn’t name this site. The now long-gone original Black Velvet Bruce Lee did. I really have no idea what it was supposed to mean, or why that name was chosen.

    The “about” page has more information on this.

  9. CitizenofManassas said on 27 Jan 2008 at 10:08 pm:
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    Here is another great letter to the editor. http://www.manassasjm.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=MJM%2FMGArticle%2FWPN_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173354361814&path=!opinion

  10. Had to Say said on 27 Jan 2008 at 10:27 pm:
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    Yep they love to bash America! Well, I have always said, “If you don’t like it here, leave!.” Talk about rewriting history! The guy doesn’t have a clue!

  11. josh said on 27 Jan 2008 at 10:38 pm:
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    Looks like the guy who wrote that letter really needs to read up on the Alamo and the Battle of San Jacinto. The Stand-off at the Alamo was a brilliant tactical move in those days, I call holding off an army of 1500 soldiers for 13 days with 200 people a win since it delayed the Mexican Army so Sam Houston could advance with his troops (and win)

  12. Leila said on 27 Jan 2008 at 10:41 pm:
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    The NYT today had interesting articles on the impact of the new law regarding illegal aliens and instate tuition rates in Arizona, and, in the business section, on companies and organizations that mandate English only in the workplace. Article begins with the EEOC lawsuit against the Salvation Army.

  13. dolph said on 27 Jan 2008 at 11:02 pm:
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    He needs to also read up on the Compromise of 1850 and what highlights of the compromise were. He has it all wrong. I don’t understand why the acquisition of this land is still being questioned over 150 years later. Get over it.

    The Alamo is everything to do with bravery and not giving up in the face of adversity, even against all odds. Mr. Pineda misses not only facts but also the nuances of American history.

  14. monticup said on 27 Jan 2008 at 11:07 pm:
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    I wonder if Mr Pineda is an illegal. His allegiance is with the illegal alien, not with Americans. The audacity!

  15. 999 said on 28 Jan 2008 at 12:10 am:
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    Leila said on 27 Jan 2008 at 10:41 pm:
    Article begins with the EEOC lawsuit against the Salvation Army.
    The EEOC lost their original lawsuit against the Salvation Army four years ago. It lost when a federal judge in Boston ruled it (English only) was a reasonable effort “to promote workplace harmony.” Not willing to accept this judgment, the EEOC has sued the Salvation Army again.


    Sounds like the two Latinos in question are looking for a “big” payday and of course look who’s “looking after them.” They will lose this one too!

  16. Anonymous said on 28 Jan 2008 at 12:12 am:
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  17. Anonymous said on 28 Jan 2008 at 12:15 am:
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    CitizenofManassas said on 27 Jan 2008 at 8:57 pm:
    They all have different last names but the same home address.

    Obvious “bunk” house.

  18. josh said on 28 Jan 2008 at 12:21 am:
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    agreed. He attempted to cover a lot of bases and missed all of them. I’m still trying to figure out why people bring up the compromise, That was quite a bit of time ago as you said and it’s over and done with. The Alamo although a technical “loss” was a win when compared to the entire battle..both tactically and morally. I know as a kid I was very impressed when learning about this and still am today. Davey Crockett was one of my favorite historical characters as well as General Sam Houston.

    Another little tidbit of information that he failed to mention in his discourse on mexican/american history is that General Santa Ana was caught by General Sam Houston while taking a siesta. Talk about sleeping on the job. That guy was one big idiot of a General.

  19. BattleCat said on 28 Jan 2008 at 12:22 am:
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    Nice to see the MJM printing Reconquista crap. Is that why those poor guys who sit in Giant grocery stores can’t give that paper away? Yep, Mexico won the battle of the Alamo….HAHAHAHA

  20. Batson D. Belfrey said on 28 Jan 2008 at 7:44 am:
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    “Yep, Mexico won the battle of the Alamo….HAHAHAHA”

    Yes, Mexico did win at the Alamo, and the US won the war.

  21. CitizenofManassas said on 28 Jan 2008 at 8:24 am:
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    I simply do not understand why a person who has such obvious disdain for America immigrated here. He simply could have stayed in his Native Country with the non “lazy” people.

  22. Lafayette said on 28 Jan 2008 at 9:03 am:
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    Check this out from Principi thread. It should be here. Do we have any Coverstone reports this morning?
    Ludmilla said on 28 Jan 2008 at 6:44 am:
    Heard there is a video of the encounter between HSM and day laborers at the Coverston 7-11. Wonder how how long before it makes it to You Tube?

    Lafayette said on 28 Jan 2008 at 9:02 am:
    You mean this video? Great job. It appeared to be about 40 day laborers there. I wonder how many are there this morning.

  23. Batson D. Belfrey said on 28 Jan 2008 at 9:41 am:
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    “He simply could have stayed in his Native Country with the non “lazy” people.”


    What makes me laugh is he calls Americans lazy. America has like 20 times the GDP of Mexico. I guess he thinks Mexican immigrants, legal and illegal are responsible for this.

    Also, this guy only cares about Mexicans. That is pretty clear. What about Columbians and Salvadorian immigrants? What most people don’t realize is there is a lot of division within the Latino community, based on country of origin.

  24. Patty said on 28 Jan 2008 at 10:03 am:
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    There were about a dozen men hanging out at 7-11, Coverstone, on Saturday around noon time.

  25. Advocator said on 28 Jan 2008 at 10:33 am:
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    Did I miss something in the Examiner?

  26. dilly said on 28 Jan 2008 at 10:43 am:
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    Robert Molleur slammed in Arlington Sun Gazette over previous letter to editor regarding Arlington County Board Chairman Walter Tejada’s plan for “accessory dwelling units”


  27. dolph said on 28 Jan 2008 at 11:29 am:
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    To continue the TANGENT we were on, which was little known Virginia facts, you know that Sam Houston was a Virginia boy, don’t you? Home grown. Right here in the old Dominion.

  28. resident of Woodbridge said on 28 Jan 2008 at 11:45 am:
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    I wonder where Principi is getting his info. from? Maybe the Barg rhectoric?

    The 7/11 at Longview and the Parkway and Rt. One has not changed. Plus they keep spreading to other establisments along Rt. One. Plus they are up in the Plaza at Rt. One.

    So Principi can not see or perhaps he hasn’t even driven around the area.

    I understand he is not against the illegals and wants to help them.

    He is starting off wrong and I hope he learns not to listen to Barg.

  29. Alexandrianagainstillegals said on 28 Jan 2008 at 12:26 pm:
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    McCain (through Juan Hernandez) is having supporters host “Viva McCain Fiestas”

    Any questions still on whats going to happen if McCain gets the republican nomination?


    “1. Host or attend a “McCain Fiesta” at your home, church, local restaurant, community center, etc., tuning in to Univision’s Presidential Debate.
    2. Sign up to join the nationwide effort to support Senator McCain - contact Juan Hernandez at jhernandez@McCain08hq.com; or Beth Sturgeon at bethsturgeon@austexdev.com.
    3. Register your “McCain Fiesta” at http://fiestas.johnmccain.com.
    4. Consider donating $25 or more to the campaign (Click on http://fiestas.johnmccain.com to donate.) “

  30. josh said on 28 Jan 2008 at 2:22 pm:
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    You know Dolph I didnt know that! I did alot of research into Davey Crockett since he’s my fave! Even watched the show on T.V. years ago


  31. dolph said on 28 Jan 2008 at 2:25 pm:
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    But did you wear the cap? That coon skin cap. That is the true test. I always wanted one and never did get one. Cry!!

    I found out about Sam Houston in some Washington Post game years ago. I had always assumed, incorrectly, that he was a Texan. I was pleased to learn he was ours.

  32. 999 said on 28 Jan 2008 at 2:31 pm:
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    Alexandrianagainstillegals said on 28 Jan 2008 at 12:26 pm:
    McCain (through Juan Hernandez) is having supporters host “Viva McCain Fiestas”

    Any questions still on whats going to happen if McCain gets the republican nomination?

    A snake will shed it’s skin but it is still the same animal. Mccain got his butt kicked on the comprehensive immigration bill he co-sponsored with Kennedy. He just doesn’t get it! He would grant total amnesty in a heartbeat.

  33. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 28 Jan 2008 at 2:37 pm:
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    Mcamnesty and Huck will both give amnesty.

  34. josh said on 28 Jan 2008 at 3:03 pm:
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    as I kid I got a coonskin cap however I think It was more because of seeing “the christmas story” than davey crockett :)


  35. dolph said on 28 Jan 2008 at 3:05 pm:
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    At least you got to be ‘King of the Wild Frontier’ for whatever reason.

    (you’re gonna shoot your eye out)


  36. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 28 Jan 2008 at 3:54 pm:
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    McCain nonsense again!

  37. legal2 said on 28 Jan 2008 at 4:09 pm:
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    From the Prime Minister of Australia, John Howard: Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.
    Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation’s mosques. Quote: ‘IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.’
    ‘This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom.’ ‘We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn the language!’ ‘Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.’
    ‘We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.’
    ‘This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, ‘THE RIGHT TO LEAVE’.’
    ‘If you aren’t happy here then LEAVE. We didn’t force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.’

  38. Krusty said on 28 Jan 2008 at 4:17 pm:
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    Did anyone read WashPo’s editorial re Cuccinelli this morning?

  39. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 28 Jan 2008 at 4:29 pm:
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    legal…that Prime Minister has it right 100%!

  40. legal2 said on 28 Jan 2008 at 4:35 pm:
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    If only our sovereignty were protected by real leadership shown by PM Howard !

  41. CitizenofManassas said on 28 Jan 2008 at 4:44 pm:
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    I sure did. I can’t believe the COMPOST has the nerve to say only those that are against illegal immigration have blurred the line between illegal aliens and legal immigrants, when the COMPOST has been the champion of using that tactic.

  42. One Voice said on 28 Jan 2008 at 6:09 pm:
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    Patriot - I think McCain just might get it. Might want to prepare for that. :)

  43. 999 said on 28 Jan 2008 at 6:17 pm:
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    dolph said on 28 Jan 2008 at 2:25 pm:

    But did you wear the cap? That coon skin cap. That is the true test. I always wanted one and never did get one. Cry!!

    Indulge yourself.

  44. dolph said on 28 Jan 2008 at 8:28 pm:
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    Many thanks. I might just have to order one of those.

  45. Leila said on 28 Jan 2008 at 9:37 pm:
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    legal2, the above material is a bit confusing since you identify John Howard as the Prime Minister of Australia, a post he no longer holds. He was pretty soundly kicked out of office some months ago. It wasn’t even close.

    Trying to find out the date of the comments, I came across some information on that great resource, snopes, that might be of interest to you. Apparently the material you quote, that has been floating about the net, is an amalgamation of different Australians and others, different statements, etc.


  46. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 29 Jan 2008 at 9:31 am:
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    What is this crap?


    So we ignore all of those in line to get here LEGALLY??

  47. KJones said on 29 Jan 2008 at 10:06 am:
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    Ohio couple admits to $8 million robbery
    ‘I wanted a better life,’ woman says in explaining armored car firm heist


  48. Lafayette said on 29 Jan 2008 at 10:10 am:
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    We most certainly should NOT ignore those that choice to wait in line. We certainly don’t want these jokers in the story below before someone who’s gone about immigration the LEGAL way.

    Four in the trunk. What the hell?

    Man loses ear as he flees police
    The Associated Press
    2008-01-29 02:26:01.0
    Current rank: # 833 of 13,827 The Examiner

    LA JOYA, Texas -
    A man driving a car full of suspected illegal immigrants lost his ear as he tried to flee from police.

    The 22-year-old Mexican national had turned into a brushy field from a farm-to-market road Sunday when he tried to open the door and jump from the car, said Joe Cantu, a La Joya police spokesman.

    The car door bounced against a tree and slammed shut on the man’s head, cleanly severing his ear, police said.

    U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement charged Juan Jose Padilla-Escutia on Monday with knowingly and recklessly transporting eight undocumented immigrants, Harlingen television station KGBT reported.

    Police and Border Patrol agents found four of the six passengers who fled the car after it came to a stop. Authorities also discovered four people in the car’s trunk who were thought to be illegal immigrants from El Salvador and Honduras, Cantu told The (McAllen) Monitor.

    Police had stopped the driver for speeding. But he hit the gas after stopping beside of the road. After the accident, he was taken to a McAllen hospital, where he remained Monday night.

  49. One Voice said on 29 Jan 2008 at 10:26 am:
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    Many in line have expired VISA’s becuase the feds don’t have enough people to stay on top of them and renew them on time. ICE will not hold someone’s who’s paperwork is pending due to the backlog.

  50. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 29 Jan 2008 at 10:28 am:
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    KAINE OHHHH KAINE!!!!! Are you or one of your minions reading???


    Might want to peruse this article or have one of your minions do so and report back to you.

  51. Loudoun said on 29 Jan 2008 at 10:30 am:
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    I just got off of the phone with CHASE and BANK OF AMERICA to cancel my credit cards because both banks cater to illegal aliens, as well as aiding and abetting illegal aliens, by accepting matricula consular id cards to open accounts.

    The customer service member at CHASE actually argued with me. He said CHASE is a world bank and they have to provide accounts to foreigners. I told him that the FBI has stated that matricula consular id cards are not an adequate form of identification and that CHASE certainly doesn’t need to provide accounts to foreigners in the United States. I advised him I no longer wanted to do business with CHASE because they aid and abet illegal aliens. I told him I wanted him to document the reason why I was closing my account and he refused to do so. I then made him give me an address I could write to. He was an absolute a**!

    On the other hand, the customer service member at Bank of America was very nice. He told me he gets calls every day with the same reason as mine for closing accounts.

  52. Loudoun said on 29 Jan 2008 at 10:31 am:
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    For those who want to see which banks accept the matricula consular card:


    I also plan on closing my checking and savings accounts at SunTrust and changing my mortgage from BB&T as they also aid and abet illegal aliens by accepting the matricula consular card.

  53. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 29 Jan 2008 at 10:32 am:
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    LOL Lafayette. I hadn’t refreshed the page when I posted mine :) We are on the same page :)

    One Voice,

    I have no quarrel with those here on expired visas because they are waiting for the Gov’t to do their paperwork. The difference, as I see it, is they are trying to do it LEGALLY. Going through the process.

    Once we dry up the jobs, the better off we will be. I saw 22 day laborers at the Cornerstone 7-11 @ 8:15A. There was a black pick-up with a camper top on it letting people in, so there were more than that. I do not know how many they picked up.

  54. Loudoun said on 29 Jan 2008 at 10:57 am:
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    Twelve day laborers hanging out - 5 on 7-11 property and the remainder on the hill.

  55. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 29 Jan 2008 at 11:02 am:
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    You would think that the banks would see the writing on the wall. It is surprising the BOA guy was so easy going. The Chase guy obviously thought you were taking money out of his personal account :)

    A step in the right direction. Unfortunately it is a small business, ubt maybe starting small and working our way up is the way to go.


  56. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 29 Jan 2008 at 11:03 am:
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    Loudoun said on 29 Jan 2008 at 10:57 am:

    That is about 1/2 of the number I saw just 2 1/2 hours before. Either the ones missing were hired or they left because they were not getting work.

  57. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 29 Jan 2008 at 11:21 am:
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    I see many states going to stricter driver license requirements. Of course we are seeing the race card played and profiling as well. This isn’t the case, it is for ALL ILLEGAL aliens. We dry up the drivers license PRIVILEGE, the jobs and go after employers, this should start the self deportation process rather quickly. It is working and they will have to endure it or go home. Let’s hope Clinton, Obama, McCain or Huckabee do not get the white house so we do not have to worry about amnesty.

  58. Krusty said on 29 Jan 2008 at 11:29 am:
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    Loudoun - are you hoping that your targets will go bankrupt due to your withdrawals? Of course, I don’t know what sums are involved. Could be multi-millions and really make a difference.

  59. Loudoun said on 29 Jan 2008 at 11:45 am:
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    Krusty - please define “targets”

  60. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 29 Jan 2008 at 11:56 am:
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    It isn’t about his alone, it is about the entire population doing it. Just do some simple math. I do not know Loudoun’s bank balance, nor do I have the need to know, but if he has 5,000 withdrawn and 100,000 others do the same, that is a significant amount of money. Banks make interest on their cash daily. If the cash is drawn down, they do not make as much money. Why do you think they hold your money “hostage” when you cash a check from another bank? It is so they can make 3-5 days worth of interest on it. Now you say, well it is only a 5.00 check. Yes yours is a 5.00 check, but if you have 1,000 people do the same thing, you can see how much cash they have on hand while you wait for the funds to be made available to you. It all boils down to whether they can keep the cash reserves at a level to get a higher amount of interest.

  61. Krusty said on 29 Jan 2008 at 12:16 pm:
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    Loudoun - Targets : the banks you stopped dealing with.

    3DIC 64 - Yes, I understand. I was just making a stupid remark. As you well know, sometimes my fingers get engaged before my brain does. And I understand that, as always, if people unite, things usually can be changed, (for better or worse, as the case may be.)

  62. Loudoun said on 29 Jan 2008 at 12:28 pm:
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    Krusty - it’s MEDIC 64 - not 3DIC 64.

    Was your 12:16 pm post your way of apologizing for belittling my actions?

  63. One Voice said on 29 Jan 2008 at 12:34 pm:
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    My point about the turnaround time on VISA’s was not to solicit opinion on their status, but to point out once again, in a a seemingly futile way, how uncommitted and under-rescourced the feds are with regard to this. DHS gave a way millions in grants for robots to public safety entities located in Idaho….. They should have used it for this.

  64. One Voice said on 29 Jan 2008 at 12:36 pm:
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    Gee, I can never spell Loudoun without looking it up…..

  65. Loudoun said on 29 Jan 2008 at 12:44 pm:
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    One Voice - your sarcasm isn’t appreciated.

  66. Krusty said on 29 Jan 2008 at 2:53 pm:
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    Loudoun - Time to chill out! I answered your question about “targets”. If you find anything belittling in my “the banks you stopped dealing with”, then I don’t quite know what belittling means. A straight answer to your “please define targets”.

    If MEDIC 64 doesn’t mind my using a different version of his handle, why on earth should you? I have used my version since I started replying to him because I don’t know how to do those backward and forward slashes he has in his handle. - Do I have your permission, kind sir/madam?

  67. Loudoun said on 29 Jan 2008 at 4:43 pm:
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    Krusty, let me repost your post:

    Krusty said on 29 Jan 2008 at 11:29 am:
    “Loudoun - are you hoping that your targets will go bankrupt due to your withdrawals? Of course, I don’t know what sums are involved. Could be multi-millions and really make a difference.”

    be·lit·tle (bĭ-lĭt’l) Pronunciation Key
    tr.v. be·lit·tled, be·lit·tling, be·lit·tles

    To represent or speak of as contemptibly small or unimportant; disparage: a person who belittled our efforts to do the job right.
    To cause to seem less than another or little: The size of the office tower belittles the surrounding buildings.
    synonyms: minimize, decry, deprecate, deride, scorn, dismiss.

    You were belittling me. You were being sarcastic, nasty, and mean. Since you are this way on a normal basis - I wanted to make sure you weren’t doing the same to MEDIC by calling him a DIC.

    Don’t tell me to chill out. I don’t belittle people on this blog. You need a serious attitude adjustment.

  68. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 29 Jan 2008 at 5:46 pm:
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    M64 works with less typing :) I am a graduate of the Hunt and Peck School of Typing. I am currently enrolled in the advanced class; 6 fingers to include the thumb space bar. Classes are going good.

    Fortunately, my FireFox browser has spell check on it so I rarely misspell words :)

  69. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 29 Jan 2008 at 5:48 pm:
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    Loudoun said on 29 Jan 2008 at 4:43 pm:

    TY. I have been called a dic (red line under that one there) before :)

    I appreciate the kindness.

  70. Krusty said on 29 Jan 2008 at 6:21 pm:
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    M64 is WONDERFUL! Thanks! And LOUDON, you truly need to chill out. Your desertation re belittling made my eyes glaze over. I’d probably belittle you by saying that I hope you aren’t a teacher or professor. I did, didn’t I?

    As for typing, M64, I spent two years in business college practising typing and shorthand every day. Does anyone under 30 know what shorthand is any more? Now kids type long before they can write. - And I apologize. I never thought about the word “dic” the way it might be interpreted. You’re a gentleman never to have mentioned that before.

    Loudoun - please have a cup of camomille tea. It’s supposed to be very calming.

  71. Loudoun said on 29 Jan 2008 at 6:38 pm:
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    MEDIC64 - You are most welcome!

    Krusty - the word you are looking for is dissertation.

  72. Loudoun said on 29 Jan 2008 at 6:40 pm:
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    And Krusty - at least you had the decency to apologize to MEDIC64 for DIC.

  73. Anon said on 29 Jan 2008 at 9:11 pm:
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    Virginia legislature to target illegals

    January 11, 2008

    By Seth McLaughlin - RICHMOND — More than 100 bills proposing reforms in the way that the state handles illegal aliens have been introduced in the first two days of the General Assembly — ending any speculation on how important the issue is to Democratic and Republican lawmakers.

    “Without question, it is a big issue,” said House Speaker William J. Howell, Stafford Republican.

    The bills range from the denial of bail for violent criminal illegal aliens to directing the Virginia State Police to create a special unit of at least 100 trained officers tasked with investigating and enforcing immigration violations.

    Gov. Tim Kaine, in his State of the Commonwealth Address Wednesday night, dedicated 14 of 131 paragraphs to the subject.

    “We are a nation of laws,” said Mr. Kaine, a Democrat. “It is our obligation to enforce those laws, and we should continually assess the consequences of illegal immigration.”

    Some Republicans called Mr. Kaine’s comments “fluff,” noting that he mentioned the benefits of immigration and existing Virginia laws against illegal aliens, including one in 2005 that barred illegal aliens from receiving non-emergency public benefits.

    However, in his State of the Commonwealth address last year from Jamestown, Mr. Kaine never mentioned the issue.

    “It is evidence of the fact, in the last year, the issue has become of heightened interest in the public consciousness; there is no question about that,” said Claire Guthrie Gastanaga, lobbyist for a coalition of Hispanic organizations that represents the interests of immigrants.

    “There are already twice as many bills, and we are not done by a long shot,” she said, adding that by her count 53 bills regarding illegal aliens were filed last session.

    The issue, which has been prominent in Northern Virginia, influenced some of the most competitive races in the November legislative elections that resulted in Democrats winning control of the Senate.

    The new Democratic leadership in the Senate said during a press conference yesterday that immigration would be one of the party’s top six priorities for the 60-day-legislative session.

    The three lawmakers who addressed the issue at the press conference were from Fairfax or Prince William counties.

    “We need immigration solutions that make sense and help communities better deal with the immigration issue,” said Sen. George L. Barker, Fairfax Democrat who defeated an incumbent in a race largely defined by the issue of illegal aliens. “Helping to prevent overcrowding and having employers check their employees’ citizenship status electronically will help.”

    Sen. Charles J. Colgan, Prince William Democrat and Finance Committee Chairman, repeated his desire to require Virginia contractors to check the legal working status of their employees.

    Mr. Colgan said he wants state contractors to use a system similar to the federal government’s E-Verify.

    A Virginia State Crime Commission task force on illegal aliens has forwarded to the General Assembly more than a dozen reform proposals, including a presumption against bail for criminal illegal aliens and a plan to enter into local-state-federal agreements to build jail space for illegal aliens awaiting deportation.

    Still, some Republicans were skeptical that Democrats will be serious about passing bills aimed at cracking down on illegal aliens.

    “I hope they want to take the issue seriously, and we will see this year,” said Delegate Jackson H. Miller, Prince William Republican. “Last year, they were not serious about it.”


  74. One Voice said on 29 Jan 2008 at 9:34 pm:
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    Loudoun - Relax and enjoy things, it was meant to be funny. Don’t jump so fast you will have more fun.

    I can’t spell ANYTHING and it’s well known here. M64 is much easier for me, too.

  75. Krusty said on 30 Jan 2008 at 12:31 am:
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    Loudoun - I’m a very decent person, quick to apologize, friendly, enjoy f(p)unny exchanges. That why the word DESERTation (a very dry explanation).

    Now I’ll sleep well knowing that the cocky former mayor of NYC is out of the running.

  76. Lafayette said on 30 Jan 2008 at 8:39 am:
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    We need this in Prince William County!!
    Geesh, what do you think the chances are?

    ROCKVILLE Crime scene maps available online
    Montgomery County residents will be able to view maps that show where crimes have been reported under a partnership with police and a software development company.

    The service will be available beginning next month on the CrimeReports Web site, crimereports.com. It will present data on a Google Maps interface, where residents can view any location served by county police.

    Residents also will be able to receive e-mail alerts about crimes that occur close to home or any other address of interest, such as a school, business or community center.

    Officials said preliminary crime data will be updated each night by the police department.

  77. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 30 Jan 2008 at 9:00 am:
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    Krusty said on 29 Jan 2008 at 6:21 pm

    The Hunt and Peck was suppose to be a joke, guess it bombed.

    Shoot are you kidding about shorthand? Kids today will not spend the time to learn that, it requires work. Of course they have their own shorthand w/ abbreviated words they use 4 everything cuz it is 2 hard 2 type them out.

  78. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 30 Jan 2008 at 9:03 am:
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    I saw about 12 day laborers loitering at the Cornerstone 7-11 and 3 in front of the other building around 8:15A.

    I have seen that same thing for Chicago about 3 years ago. I believe it was the pilot project for this. It is cool but sad at the same time. The problem I see with this is it will show which neighborhoods are having problems, which might keep people from moving in. This could continue the decline of the neighborhood.

  79. One Voice said on 30 Jan 2008 at 9:08 am:
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    Regarding taxes…… I would like to see that stuff too!! :).

    Like I said, get what ya pay for.

  80. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 30 Jan 2008 at 10:08 am:
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    Ohh BOO HOO!!!!


    Attorney Scott Sabin had asked the court to take into account his client’s illness and the fact that he has been separated for 16 months from his wife and four children, ages 2 through 7. Sabin also argued that additional prison time would hurt the family because Xi Ye was the predominant wage earner.

    This is our problem how?

    Sabin said Xi Ye just wanted to have a nice life, but “he didn’t want to play by the rules.”

    There are consequences for not playing by the rules!!!

  81. Lafayette said on 30 Jan 2008 at 10:12 am:
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    One Voice,
    I’d be willing to pay a little more in taxes if it would take care of the problem, but it won’t. I would still be willing to pay just a tiny bit more to keep moving forward in ridding our communities of ILLEGAL ALIENS.

  82. Lafayette said on 30 Jan 2008 at 10:15 am:
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    One less ILLEGAL ALIEN, deported in 2000, and has been serving time in US.
    Man sought by Mexican authorities extradited
    The Associated Press
    2008-01-30 04:13:07.0
    Current rank: # 1,303 of 13,420 The Examiner

    BROWNSVILLE, Texas -
    Federal agents handed over to Mexican officials on Tuesday a man who faces organized crime and drug-related charges in Mexico.

    Roberto Orozco-Fernandez, known as “El Che,” wore a bulletproof vest as he was escorted under heavy security by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents to meet Mexican agents at the Gateway International Bridge, The Brownsville Herald reported for its Wednesday editions.

    After reading Orozco-Fernandez his rights and switching out the bulletproof vest for one of their own, officers with the Agencia Federal de Investigacion loaded him into a pickup truck and drove away.

    Orozco-Fernandez, 47, faces charges in Mexico of engaging in organized crime, crimes against health, drug-related crimes, stockpiling firearms and ammunition, and money laundering, according to a press release issued by ICE spokesman Greg Palmore.

    A U.S. judge had ordered Orozco-Fernandez to be deported in 2000. He was placed in ICE custody earlier this month after completing part of a sentence he received in California in 1999 on charges of conspiring to aid and abet the distribution of controlled substances.

    Orozco-Fernandez was being held Tuesday night at a Matamoros prison.

  83. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 30 Jan 2008 at 10:25 am:
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    Some numbers in regards to the cost of ILLEGAL aliens:


    This is unbelievable. A huge number for someone that is in the country ILLEGALLY!!!!

  84. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 30 Jan 2008 at 10:27 am:
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    Lafayette said on 30 Jan 2008 at 10:15 am:

    He will be back. They will have to let him go on a technicality and he will walk back across the border again. His drug connections will get him off.

  85. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 30 Jan 2008 at 10:46 am:
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    Geesshh!!! Here we go again:


    Saying she hoped the fear of God would keep federal agents away, undocumented immigrant Flor Crisostomo on Monday vowed to stay in a Humboldt Park church indefinitely to keep Congress focused on immigration reform.

    Tears streaming down her cheeks, a defiant Crisostomo said she did not believe she was breaking U.S. law, nor did she see herself as hiding.

    Then get off of the church steps and see how long your freedom lasts.

    “I am taking a stand of civil disobedience to make America see what they are doing,” Crisostomo said in a statement that was translated into English. Speaking in broken English, she said immigrants are not terrorists but hard-working people contributing to the economy.

    “The real problem is the color and the language,” she said.

    Uhh no, it is the fact you are here ILLEGALLY!! Let’s see,

    1) You are here ILLEGALLY
    2) You want us to bend the rules for you
    3) You do not see what you have done as wrong
    4) You want to be able to live here without going through the proper channels

    What part of this list is right? NONE of it!!!

    Why do these people come to their “new home” and try to tear it up?

  86. Krusty said on 30 Jan 2008 at 12:41 pm:
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    M64 10:00 am - No, I got it. No bomb. My husband used to call his typing “the index finger waltz”.

  87. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 30 Jan 2008 at 1:46 pm:
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    LOL @ Krusty

  88. One Voice said on 30 Jan 2008 at 2:11 pm:
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    Poor old God is sooo mis-used by so many…. :(

  89. dolph said on 30 Jan 2008 at 6:16 pm:
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    We are not alone. The Brits have their own problems with illegal immigrants and those who are there without permission.

    Here is one of my favorites:


    Go West.

  90. josh said on 30 Jan 2008 at 6:40 pm:
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    that story you posted appalls me, reminds me of that tramp elvira arellano. Also, did you catch the ages of her children? Assuming she’s actually the mother of them..she gave birth to the oldest at 14 years old. I guess things roll different down there.

    I still would put her one rung on the later higher than Arellano, at least she had her kids in Mexico and didnt come to the U.S. and pop a kid out (to an unknown father at that) to get him declared a U.S. Citizen.

  91. Johnson said on 30 Jan 2008 at 8:39 pm:
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    Medic 64-my spies tell me that the same guys who got Elian Gonzalez are setting up on that church. Lest anyone forget, there is no such legal theory as sanctuary.

  92. Johnson said on 30 Jan 2008 at 8:43 pm:
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    No offense, but I thought catholic girls were supposed to be clean, pure and chaste? Or, doesn’t that matter in a country where the public transportation is segregated by gender to protect women from the jerks that pass for men? Sorry, just more of a “culture” that I prefer stay down there.

  93. Johnson said on 30 Jan 2008 at 8:56 pm:
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    One Voice-
    You got that right. What’s it gonna take to make us realize that money and power are not the paths to success?

  94. One Voice said on 31 Jan 2008 at 7:55 am:
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    Johnson - Deathbed for most I’d say.

  95. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 31 Jan 2008 at 9:38 am:
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    josh said on 30 Jan 2008 at 6:40 pm

    I agree. I think if she takes one step off of the church property, she is gone. Of course the church will not allow her to leave since the last “visitor” went to CA for a protest and wound up deported.

    14y/o is a fresh flower I guess. Someone obviously picked it.

    Johnson said on 30 Jan 2008 at 8:39 pm

    I don’t think they should be able to help her in this way. She is breaking the law, why does the church get a free pass? If you or I were helping her, they would have us in zip tie cuffs and stuffed into the back of a squad car faster than we could say yeee haa!

    I think the main problem is the double standard. They can break the laws they choose without consequences, yet we get it to the hilt when we break one. Imagine speeding now with the new fees added.

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