Open Thread
By Greg L | 31 January 2008 | Uncategorized | 228 Comments
Once again, a place for all of those off-topic discussions…
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Anyone bought any nice firearms lately?
I just got a sweet shot gun.
Channel 8 discussed the Rt.1/Parkway 7-Eleven last night regarding the illegals. Police are trying to “shooh” them away. Our very dear friend, Nancy Lyall, was there to give her worthless two cents by saying “they’re not doing anything illegal”….. blah blah blah.
I was shocked!! (NOT).
So, Rt1Resident, what’s SWEET about a shotgun?
R1R - What’s the make and model? I need to get a good one myself.
Rob,
Funny you should mention that. I just got rid of all my firearms and replaced with new ones. Rem 870 Express 20 gauge with Knoxx Spec Ops Stock and magazine extension (SHTF gun), Beretta CX4 Storm in 9mm, Colt AR-15 (A3 LEO), and a Ruger 10/22 for plinking.
I should just have my paychecks sent directly to VA Arms
Krusty,
You didn’t ask me, but I’ll help out with what could be sweet about a shotgun. Unfortunately, the sweet ones are the REALLY expensive ones. There are certain Ayo and Beretta side-by-sides that have beautiful engraving, a stock made out of a gorgeous piece of wood. The best way I’ve heard it described was “examples of the gunmakers art”. It’s almost more about the craftsmanship and beauty of the materials than about the fact that it shoots lead out of it. I would propose that these almost artistic pieces could be sweet. Feel free to disagree.
MCR,
Since when is loitering ok? Why was she even there at 7-11. Good grief.
Oh well, its 7-11’s business. If they can make enough off of vagrants and don’t need the rest of our business, go at it. When 7-11 has had enough business lost, my guess is that the loitering will stop.
There is a gun group. Ok. Fair enough. I like turquoise. Does anyone else like gemstones?
I watched the debate last night. I really liked Romney. McCain really
avoided answering the illegal alien issue. He won’t get my vote.
McCain was like a parrot. He just keeps saying the same couple of sentences over and over, and it looks like he’s going to be the Republican candidate…sigh. What was really annoying about the debate was how CNN basically shut down Paul and Huckabee in front of the whole viewing audience. The media (in my opinion) has a little too much influence on this whole process.
Hey Dolph,
I think you can get truck nutz in turquoise chrome…..Viva La Truck Nutz!
Hi Dolph - welcome back.
You musta swum south to pristine, unpolluted waters. I hope you are
reenergized.
dolph,
I like shiny jewels!
manassascityresident said on 31 Jan 2008 at 11:49 am:
Since when is loitering LEGAL?
Since when is working without proper paperwork LEGAL?
Since when is working without paying with holding taxes LEGAL?
She was there because someone in her posse notified her that the news was going to address the issue with a report and she could have a say about it.
The media (in my opinion) has a little too much influence on this whole process.
I couldn’t agree more. Don’t they realize that the more they do to Paul, the more attention he is getting? He has so much money in his coffers that it wouldn’t surprise me to see him run as an independent.
“POLICE ARE TRYING TO “SHOOH” THEM AWAY”
Wake up America, there is now a de facto two tier system of law enforcement in this country. YOU obey the laws, while illegal aliens do whatever, wherever, whenever they want without punishment.
We all see how selective law enforcement is working in the city of Manassas and in PW county. What to do about it is up to you! Being silent and uninvolved is not the answer.
“Since when is loitering LEGAL?
Since when is working without proper paperwork LEGAL?
Since when is working without paying with holding taxes LEGAL?”
Yes, loitering is ILLEGAL.
You don’t know who there is legal and who isn’t. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with being a daylaborer.
You don’t know if they are declaring this money or not. It’s just like anybody else that works in a field where they are paid cash like a waiter/waitress.
Also, last I checked it’s not illegal to hire them either. You can legally pay someone without paying social security etc… if it’s not more than $250 per year. I haven’t checked this in years, so maybe it’s changed but it used to be this way.
Loiterers’ Minor Infractions Targeted in Va.
http://www.wtop.com/?nid=730&sid=1336590
I just saw a grew minivan (Honda, I believe) delivering coffee and condiments to the loiterers (about 12) at the Coverstone site.
Dolf: I would have pegged you as partial to RINO-stones.
es_la_ley said on 31 Jan 2008 at 1:40 pm:
As I said, clean up the smaller crimes and we will see a decrease in larger ones. They have not realized the consequences of their actions.
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Compassionate Conservative said on 31 Jan 2008 at 1:36 pm:
Then I challenge you to show they are LEGAL. The common denominator with the day laborers is their status. I know I have seen these people there several days and I am sure they earn more than $250/year.
It is this apologetic mindset that has gotten us into this situation. We have to stand up and make sure the jobs are dried up and that employers are forced to use E-Verify.
I just got a Model 70 Winchester 300. SM, Now I just have to get a AR15 and i’ll feel safe
Rob Smalls 11:59 am - You NEED one! What for?
PWC 2:09 pm - How many guns to you HAVE TO GET in order to feel safe? And, safe from what or whom? I don’t have a gun. Should I worry?
Krusty, If Rob Smalls is between 16-45 and fit, He’s a member of unorganized militia and maybe called to service at any time by Governor of Virginia. Generally militia means you show up with your own arms. To show up when called, he must own require guns to do so.
You don’t need a gun. SHould you worry? Apparently since your asking that question I guess not. Just remember, PWC PD average response time to hot calls is 6 minutes from 911 call being placed to first officer on scene. If your house is being invaded or criminals are surrounding your car, that’s going to be the longest 6 minutes of your life. VT shooting was only 9 minutes long but I bet for everyone in that room, it felt like 9 days.
PWC: You should get an AK-47 instead. More reliable, cheaper, cheaper ammo, etc.
Krusty: Some people are just so ignorant they always feel safe. To some extent, I envy them, so I don’t take the time to explain why they should feel otherwise.
madmom said on 31 Jan 2008 at 1:00 pm:
AMEN to that!
Advocator till PWC: “You should get an AK-47 instead”. Designed by Mikhail Timofeevich Kalashnikov for the Soviet Army; assault weapon. You need that in PWC?
Then there was another PWC citizen commenting on BVBL who always takes his gun (make unknown) and his Doberman when he goes for a walk. I’ll tell you, PWC is getting to be an armed camp. Safe?
Wal-Mart put their whole inventory on sale in Oct. I picked up a Win. 70 .270 for $350 and a Remington 700 ADL Youth .243 for $320 (after 10% rebate). Sweet!
BattleCat-
How’s Bernie? Has he wrecked his rice rocket lately?
Krusty: Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
Advocator-
The bolt rifles are for Bambi and his sister. I have a Springfield Armory SAR 48 (Match) .308 for the two legged game. Bought it right before the George H.W. Bush Memorial Ban on Imported Military Weapons Act went into effect in ‘88. It performed well enough at the Law Enforcement Olympics 500 meter slow fire. (Silver) I may be persueded to allow it to be torn from my grasp for the proper renumeration.
Krusty - We’ve gone rounds about this before. I’m not going to initiate that same tired argument with you, because both of our minds are made up.
Battlecat - How are the Colt AR-15s? I have a 1911 by them and it’s a great shoot. I use a Walther G-22 for my plinking. It’s not a bad gun, but it is prone to jamming once in a while. I haven’t gone over to VA Arms in a few months, but prior to that I was giving them pretty good business too.
http://speaker.house.gov/newsroom/pressreleases?id=0514
Much as I hate to admit it, I like it.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-sanctuary31jan31,0,3060989.story
Wow! Can we send our illegals back through there on the way home?
Well, I’m not saying anything against anyone, but when the Federal government won’t protect us (yeah, yeah, we haven’t had another Sept. 11, but , that doesn’t really say anything to me), and the state won’t protect us (which is so recently obvious), and the local policia won’t protect us, well, the buck stops somewhere! The law I’d really like to see in Virginia is a castle doctrine.
Johnson,
Just saw Bernie today…he had a check for me from a consignment sale. He’s doing great!
I LOVE my Walther P-22. 3″ for carrying, 5″ for target. Try using Stingers in it. They work fine and are totally accurate. Kinda pricey, though.
What BattleCat said on 31 Jan 2008 at 4:15 pm
I am also a fan of the castle doctrine (and am always armed… I favor a Keltec PF9 these days because I can use my 92FS 9mm ammo in it. Yes, I have a CCW permit.)
A pacemaker turned my Browning Citori 12 gage & Winchester Model 94 into conversation pieces (because they put the pacemaker on the wrong side while I was under). If you ever go under for a pacemaker, make sure to tell them if you are right or left handed!
And I’ve purchased a couple of guns from Bernie (and about every other gun shop past or present in the Northern Virginia area). I may put my conversation pieces up for consignment with him.
dolph said on 31 Jan 2008 at 12:41 pm:
Why was she even there at 7-11.
Had a craving for a Slurpy.
I am in the market for a 45 Smith & Wesson. Anyone out there own one?
I want to take my kids to a gun safety class, and then take them target shooting at Isaak Walton.
Old Soldier-
I understand. I had a bypass in ‘03. No long guns for 6 months. Can they move your pacemaker?
Krusty said on 31 Jan 2008 at 3:07 pm:
Then there was another PWC citizen commenting on BVBL who always takes his gun (make unknown) and his Doberman when he goes for a walk.
Safest guy in the county!
Still have my trusty Red Ryder.
What Johnson said on 31 Jan 2008 at 4:43 pm
I suppose they could; however, they don’t really recommend it. Once the wires “grow in”, it’s there to stay. While I complain, I’m grateful as it beats the alternative… and wasn’t in much of a position to protest when they did the surgery.
What Loudoun said on 31 Jan 2008 at 4:36 pm
As luck would have it, I’m pretty sure I saw a S&W .45 on dutch auction at the gun shop on 28 just past the Parkway (going south, on the left). I think it’s called something creative like Guns & Ammo Depot or something… one of my regular haunts.
BattleCat: “Rem 870 Express 20 gauge with Knoxx Spec Ops Stock and magazine extension (SHTF gun)”
Cool. I like the 870. I got the 12 gauge and absolutely have to order a Knoxx spec op stock soon.
Well, I just bought a Wolfgang Puck immersion blender. Stainless. That baby could mess up your face just fine if you get close enough to me. Maybe I’ll get an adapter and keep it in my car.
Wow… the Wolfgang Puck… Stainless Steel no less! Did you get the high capacity mixing caraffe (or, are those still illegal?) Make sure you have a CCB (Concealed Carry Blender) permit before carrying it in your car (or leave it in plain sight at all times.)
Just remember, it’s against the law to brandish a blender in public.
article…
Hate Speech Cited in Immigration Debate
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/01/31/national/w134417S76.DTL
One Voice, I’ll never forget Charleton Heston’s speach to the National Blender Association (the NBA), “You’ll have to take my blender from my cold, dead hands!”
One Voice said on 31 Jan 2008 at 5:02 pm:
Well, I just bought a Wolfgang Puck immersion blender. Stainless. That baby could mess up your face just fine if you get close enough to me. Maybe I’ll get an adapter and keep it in my car.
You’ll cut your finger off!
BOO! HISS!
You know… you can put an eye out with that thing…
News today:
Congress has been working into the night and early morning hours trying to get bi-partisan support for The WASABI (The Wolfgang And Stainless Appliance and Blender Initiative). Many members are afraid the initiative will cause many frozen drinks to become impossible to make. WASABI has been introduced to make the Wolfgang Puck and other stainless steel appliances illegal. The blender has been the main target of the initiative. “Congress is just not ready to give up their drinking habits”, stated Senator Ted Kennedy (D MA) at a news conference earlier today.
It is expected that WASABI will die in the ATF committee later this week.
/\/\3|)iç 64: ““Congress is just not ready to give up their drinking habits”, stated Senator Ted Kennedy (D MA) at a news conference earlier today.”
This thread started sinking really fast, but that quip started reversing the tide.
Ted Kennedy… LMAO!
Blenders don’t mix drinks… people mix drinks.
Now you guys are really funny. I have to say you adapted very well and with great humor to me interrupting the gun talk.
Old Soldier - that last one made everyone in my house laugh.
Old Soldier: “I think it’s called something creative like Guns & Ammo Depot or something… one of my regular haunts.”
That would be the Gun & Ammo Warehouse. Yea. I haunt that place too, usually every weekend.
The bids close on Sunday at 1:00. I drift in around 10:00, grab a donut and coffee and check the bids. I’ll look for an Old Soldier now when I go.
I had a buddy that did a parody of Elvis’s song “Return To Sender” called “Return The Blender”. I wish I kept it for just this thread.
I love how the Washington COMPOST of late has had a few folks from Manassas in their fish wrap complaining about the “reputation” the City is getting and how businesses are turned off by the attempts to control illegal aliens and the problems they bring.
Well, all we have to do is look at the Route 1 area and see exactly what happens when illegals are able to openly live and operate. Yes, that area may have started down hill before illegal aliens stated to move into the area, but the illegals have almost made it impossible to turn the tide.
Maybe those folks who have complained about the “reputation” of Manassas can move onto Route 1, that way they can be with their brethren, and we can replace them here in the City with folks who believe in the rule of law and would like to see the City become a model for families and how to combat all crime.
Please don’t encourage more illegal aliens to move to Woodbridge/Dale City. WE DON”T WANT THEM!!
Snicker. Chortle. Great blender adaptation folks. Great comment Advocator, on my proclivities. The answer is no but it was a great one liner on your part.
Una Voce, I am getting worried about the chix. I just bought a kitchenaid mixer. Probably not as fine a caliber as your blender though.
I would talk about guns but mine is in an arrested stage of development. I would be too embarassed to ask how to fix it on here. It was sort of a chix stunt. sigh.
OV - do you get the urge to lie on your back every time you encounter another human?
Vigilant1,
I just did a dark “field trip” of nearby Sudley streets.
The third house from the corner on GV and Strasburg was lit up like a Christmas tree. There weren’t quite as many cars there as I thought there might be. Boy there sure were a lot of cars on Copeland.
Did you see the NW watch sign has been moved to the other side of the street? I wonder what’s up with that. Does it only cover one side of the block? I did see a man walking a white dog at Copeland & GV, and maybe that was the canine NW.
Billyboy said on 31 Jan 2008 at 9:24 am:
“… Hang in there Patty, this is almost as bad as watching Dan Snyder screw up the Redskins.”
I know this was on the other thread about Senator Colgan’s SB90 but I thought since this is a open thread that we could talk about how Dan Snyder is taking less than a month to destroy the Redskins. Like I said in the other thread - All sanity left when Coach Joe left.
What is going on with this man? He said he wanted continuity. Then he fires Williams and Saunders. He then promotes the line coach to defensive coordinator and then he hires Zorn for the offensive coordinator without getting a head coach. Am I missing something here. Shouldn’t he hire a head coach and let him pick the staff?
Oh I had a horrible thought. Maybe Dan Snyder wants to coach the team.
Maybe we can hope Coach Joe can buy the team from Snyder.
Any thoughts out there?
COACH SNYDER - The very thought! Rolling on the floor. Thanks, Patty, just what I need for my dreams tonight. I’ll probably be laughing out loud in my sleep. WOW!
Advocator… Good idea on the AK, I may just swing that way, but i really like the look of an AR15
Krusty… This is PWC, of course I need a gun, Seeng as how the police aren’t crazy about enforcing the law and I reaaaallyy doubt that a killer will wait 20 minutes by my bed for the police to show up………….
To everybody debating which Gun store to go to, i would recommend either VA Arms (very reasonable) and Clark Bros (Big Republican Signs outside)
Why is there a McCain banner at the top of the front page? I thought Greg supported Romney.
MdMan said on 31 Jan 2008 at 10:05 pm:
OV - do you get the urge to lie on your back every time you encounter another human?
Don’t get it. Guess I missed the point, if there was one.
PWConservative 2:37 am - Don’t underestimate the old castiron frying pan!!!
PWC at “2:30 am”
Anon1,
My guess is that Greg needs advertising income to support his many activities, and unless it’s “Mexicans w/o Borders”, advertising money is advertising money.
BTW, Mexicans w/o Borders, meet Americans with Borders.
That attitude is why we have illegals working here. Money is money!
I am very happy to see that Greg is advertising for John McCain! John McCain would make a fine president!
What es_la_ley said on 31 Jan 2008 at 7:43 pm
Re, “I’ll look for an Old Soldier now when I go.” If you go there looking for an old soldier, you will probably find a lot of us. If I make it over (no promises), I’ll identify myself as “the” Old soldier.
Patty on 31 Jan 2008 at 10:36 pm:
GO PATRIOTS!
This tidbit is from the article below on Manassas City schools.
That’s because enrollment in the English for Speakers of Other Languages program have spiked, too, reaching nearly 28 percent of the city’s student population in fiscal 2008, recently released school budget figures indicate. By comparison, Fairfax County and Prince William County schools provide ESOL services to 13 and 14 percent of students, respectively. Loudoun County, meanwhile, has 8 percent of its students in ESOL
http://www.manassasjm.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=Common%2FMGArticle%2FPrintVersion&c=MGArticle&cid=1173354443128&image=mjm80×60.gif&oasDN=manassasjm.com
Lafayette said on 31 Jan 2008 at 10:23 pm:
Vigilant1,
I just did a dark “field trip” of nearby Sudley streets.
I noticed that the sign had been moved to across the street. Maybe someone complained that they didn’t need another “obsticle” to go around when cutting the grass (fire hydrant, stop sign and NW sign.) lol
There have been two vehicles (car and p/u truck) in front of that house that haven’t moved in weeks. I notice that today the car that had the guy with the foldup mattress last week is back. Keeping eye out as to what is going on there. May be nothing, but then again……..
Still nothing re who is running the NW (if anyone.)
I have been in the office at Sudley Elementary three times in the past week. Each time there was a Latino mother (needing the use of an interpreter) transferring her children to Manassas City schools.
Beware Manassas City Resident, they are coming your way!
Vigilant1,
I’m going put those two blocks on my regular “loop”. There is something going on there. Is that damn FOR RENT sign still in the basement window?
Maybe, we are the NW and haven’t be duputized yet.lol
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Loudoun,
That’s right some of our “neighbors” have and are still moving to the city. 08 Woodstock moved to the city, and yet there kids are still attending Sudley. I wonder if the women you saw were one of the several moms that vacated that house before the bank took it.
Also, The Queen’s 8th grade English class at SMS is on their fourth teacher this year! What the hell. Well, Mrs. Davenport better stay to see the year out. She’s had the first teacher until Novemeber, the second teacher was there the month of Novemeber/December, and then Mr. G.(perm. sub that had a permanent position until they high jacked his science lab to make room for Manes Pierre) the month of January.
Any other parents out there in this English class or that’s on their fourth teacher this year?
Reagan’s Son ON the subject of John McCain
http://www.reagan.com/column.cfm?id=52
John McCain Hates Me
By Michael Reagan January 31, 2008
Until last night, when I watched the Republican debate, I had no idea how much John McCain dislikes me and just about everybody else but Rudy Giuliani, who if you believe The New York Times is a pretty good hater himself.
As I watched McCain and Governor Romney go at it during the debate at the Reagan Library I was struck by the huge gap that separates McCain — whose contempt for his fellow humans is patently obvious — and my dad, Ronald Reagan, who had nothing but the deepest affection and respect for the American people.
The feeling is mutual between McCain and me. I don’t like the way he treats people. You get the impression that he thinks everybody is beneath him. He seems to be saying, “I was a war hero, and you had damn well better treat me as your superior.”
He has contempt for conservatives who he thinks can be duped into thinking he’s one of them, despite such blatantly anti-conservative actions as his support for amnesty for illegal immigrants, his opposition to the Bush tax cuts which got the economy rolling again, and his campaign finance bill which skewed the political process and attacked free speech.
I am appalled by his contempt for the intelligence of his listeners when he flat-out lies and expects them to believe what he says even when the truth is staring them in the face.
A prime example cited by columnist Robert Novak was McCain’s denial that he had privately suggested that Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito was too conservative, insisting that he recalled saying no such thing, adding that Alito was a “magnificent” choice.
“In fact,” wrote Novak, “multiple sources confirm that the senator made negative comments about Alito nine months ago.”
In last night’s debate, McCain stubbornly defended his charge, false on the face of it, that Romney wanted a deadline for withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq.
“I have never, ever supported a specific timetable” for withdrawing troops, Romney said, adding that McCain’s accusation on the eve of Tuesday’s primary “sort of falls into the dirty tricks that I think Ronald Reagan would have found reprehensible.”
What Romney said last April, was merely that U.S. and Iraqi leaders “have to have a series of timetables and milestones that they speak about” in private, which in no way suggests he was in any sense talking about troop withdrawals.
Despite the evidence, McCain charged that “of course he said he wanted a timetable” for a withdrawal, even though he had never said any such thing. It was McCain daring to ask us if we wanted to believe our lying eyes or his demonstrably false allegation.
McCain must think conservatives are dumb enough to allow him to get away with claiming he’s one of them. This is from a man who opposed drilling for oil in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge in Alaska and who twice voted against President Bush’s tax cuts and sponsored the campaign-finance reform legislation that Romney claimed “took a whack at the First Amendment.”
In John McCain’s eyes, conservatives are the Viet Cong of this generation and he treats us as such. It’s either his way or no way.
I despise his habit of talking down to us, like a wise father to an idiot son. He’s just at a loss to understand why everybody doesn’t grovel at his feet and accept his every word as wisdom handed down from his lofty perch atop Mt. Olympus.
I can’t help it. I know in my heart he hates me, and every conservative. If he gets the nomination the only way he could win against Hillary or Barack Obama would be to be part of a McCain-Limbaugh ticket.
OV - I mean you are the “omega” voice.
is that wacko manes pierre allowed to teach? I wouldnt want my kids a football field away from him, let alone in the classroom. That guy could trip offline at any time.
josh,
He only lasted a year and that was 2006-2007, and I think he may have be escorted off property by one of “Charlies Angels”.
My daughter said he was a very strange man, and always made statements about his attire.
Ducky said on 1 Feb 2008 at 7:28 am:
“I am very happy to see that Greg is advertising for John McCain! John McCain would make a fine president!”
Absolutely, Ducky! If you want amnesty, then he’s your man!
Loudoun said on 1 Feb 2008 at 8:53 am:
“Beware Manassas City Resident, they are coming your way!”
Thanks for the warning.
MDMan - over my head, I guess. It has been pointed out that I am a very literal person, so patience and understanding is requested…
I think Michael Reagan has a deepseated problem. Aside from that:
Now we have McCain, Romney, Obama, and Clinton. One thing is certain: ONE of these four WILL be president of the United States of America.
Does anybody feel like I do that there’s something wrong with a system that, in my opinion, repels truly sharp, intelligent people to run for president due to the length and the cost of the procedure? And it’s not only the money. The candidates’ families suffer; stuff that happened 20-30 years ago is dug up; every word is turned and spun and can be interpreted any which way. They met somebody 15 years who at the time was an nice, honest guy. He later gets into trouble for some reason, and, WHAM, that is held against the candidate.
I don’t have any idea how the system can be changed. Imagine all the handlers who’d be without “work”! The television companies! Speech writers! Printing plants! On and on….
Minorities
We need to show more sympathy for these people.
* They travel miles in the heat.
* They risk their lives crossing a border.
* They don’t get paid enough wages.
* They do jobs that others won’t do or are afraid to do.
* They live in crowded conditions among a people
who speak a different language.
* They rarely see their families,
and they face adversity all day every day.
I’m not talking about illegal Mexicans;
I’m talking about our troops!
Doesn’t it seem strange that many Democrats and Republicans are willing to lavish all kinds of social benefits on illegals, but don’t support our troops and are now threatening to defund them?
Alexandrianagainstillegals said on 1 Feb 2008 at 9:43 am:
Reagan’s Son ON the subject of John McCain
http://www.reagan.com/column.cfm?id=52
John McCain Hates Me
By Michael Reagan January 31, 2008
The same statements were made on CNN (Wolfe Blitzer) last night. People who watched the debate said McCain is a person full of hate and dislike for his fellow man. I personally believe he has a dark side to his personality. As much as I would hate to see Clinton or Obama in the office, I will not give my vote to McCain. Amnesty would be guaranteed for all illegls if he won. Ham Sandwich would be a better candidate.
TDB - I say, bring them all back home so they can take over the jobs that won’t be done after we put all the illegals on the bus south. But pay them well and “lavish all kinds of social benefits” on them all. They definitely deserve no less. I sincerely mean that.
Of course, the US troups weren’t exactly invited into Iraq, as I remember (illegal immigrants, and armed toboot), blasting the capital city into smithereens in order to gain entry. At least, that hasn’t happened here. The ones who tried to destroy Washington, didn’t come from Mexico or Central America or Iraq but from our not yet smoked-out enemies in the mountains between Afghanistan and Pakistan.
After writing this (slightly sarcastic) I want to say that I feel for our military. They have an enorm task and should be given all the support we can muster. And their families back home need more support. Those who come home with broken bodies and souls should be first in line for quality assistance. My god, how helpless I feel!
Another house that I drive by frequently (on Mapledale Ave in Dale City) may have been abandoned. There is a huge pile of trash that has been out on the curb for over a week now, including (I believe) at least 3 mattresses.
I should add that NO trash can is being used with this pile of trash.
So….
The terrorists are strapping explosives to mentally handicapped women, sending them to Pet Marts, and blowing them up remotely.
That’s cold.
OV - I’m referring to the Omega Wolf which is the submissive member of the pack. It’s not important, I wrote my original post last night after watching the Dems debate and I felt like driving nails into my ears so I lashed out a little at your blender comment which by the way, was terrific comic releif. No worries…
MdMan,
I watched both debates. Now I dislike all of the candidates. I like Romney, but it doesn’t seem to matter anymore. When that woman opens her mouth on illegal immigration, I swear I could just scream at the TV. You’re going to think I joking, but trust me….watch American Idol, it’s less stressful than those debates.
I don’t like any of them, though I do agree that Romney is the lesser of all the evils on display. If McCain gets the R. Ticket, I will be writing in my vote.
starryflights said on 1 Feb 2008 at 4:48 pm:
I agree. Has Paul dropped out yet?
My vote is still going to Ron Paul.
BattleCat said on 1 Feb 2008 at 4:35 pm
When she opens her mouth about anything I want to pull my ears off of my head.
I saw 6 Ron Paul signs along the PW Pkwy today while out and about. I took a “field trip” to the other end. I drove my some pretty nasty houses. One had almost the entire front yard paved on Carter Ln. off of Hylton Ave. I saw house with a stove, another with a fridge, parking on the gras, and piles of trash on the curb and still had trash bags on the porch.
http://outdoors.webshots.com/album/561184047yuacNi?start=48
I went by the infamous 7-11 at Rt & Pkwy. There were not any day laborers lurking in the woods and there are now no trespassing signs too.
There weren’t any at the Coverstone 7-11 this afternoon either.
http://community.webshots.com/album/561319433CfhWLl?start=36
Take a look for yourselves, and as always ENJOY!!!
I like some of what Ron Paul has to say, but I don’t think he would make a good President.
MdMan
Oh, I was not worried, just confused. I understand the need to lash out and I can take it.
By the way, submissive would not describe me at all!!!!
starryflights : “I don’t like any of them, though I do agree that Romney is the lesser of all the evils on display. If McCain gets the R. Ticket, I will be writing in my vote.”
Pretty much my sentiments too at this point. I won’t be voting FOR someone. I’ll be voting AGAINST someone. And I hate that.
starryflights said on 1 Feb 2008 at 11:49 am:
I should add that NO trash can is being used with this pile of trash.
They don’t use trash cans as they would have to pay for the service. They use their little white plastic bags from the stores and pile them up at the curb. Drive through Liberia/Lomond Dr. in Manassas/PWCand see what I mean.
The more I think about this coming Presidential Election, the more I am wondering if it comes down to Clinton or McCain whether I just might vote for Clinton (instead of wasting my vote on a write in) as a show of how extremely disappointed I would be that the Republicans chose McCain and never supported Tancredo. I admire and respect our war heroes and POWs, but I don’t want it continually thrown in my face as a reason to vote for someone. McCain, his stand on giving amnesty to illegal aliens and that smug smirk of his can take a hike to Mexico and stay there for the rest of his life. I really can not stand this guy.
What Juan McAmnesty needs to understand is that “War Hero” and “Good President” have nothing to do with each other. One need look no further than the presidency of U.S. Grant to prove the point. My guess is it will be McCain vs. Clinton (maybe Obama?) Either Dem will easily hand McCain his behind (that wouldn’t even be close). Oddly enough, I think the Dems have the right idea when it comes to smacking the snot out of businesses that hire illegal immigrants. Hit businesses hard, I mean make it hurt, and the jobs will dry up, and many will go home. The republicans consistently prove their are completely enslaved to corporate greed, and will only pay lip service to illegal immigration. The problem I see with the Dems is they see millions of illegal immigrants as millions of votes, so I don’t see any of them having the integrity to do anything about it either. The media will take care of (destroy) anyone with integrity, so we’re left with Clinton, Obama, and McCain. I’m depressed now, might as well go to bed
BattleCat said on 1 Feb 2008 at 11:57 pm:
“What Juan McAmnesty needs to understand is that “War Hero” and “Good President” have nothing to do with each other.”
Amen to that!
manassascityresident said on 2 Feb 2008 at 8:46 am:
BattleCat said on 1 Feb 2008 at 11:57 pm:
“What Juan McAmnesty needs to understand is that “War Hero” and “Good President” have nothing to do with each other.”
Amen to that!
Just what did McCain do to qualify himself as a “War Hero.” He spent time in a POW camp as did thousands of other military personnel. What unique thing did he do to get the title? Curious!
Article from 2/2/08 MJM
They only come here to work and care for their families.
http://www.manassasjm.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=MJM/MGArticle/WPN_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173354454839&path=
Well, I have had my laugh for the day. I just saw a Juan McCain commercial on TV and he again threw his military service in my face and ended his AD by stating that he was a TRUE CONSERVATIVE. He must think we are STUPID!
Article from 2/2/08 MJM
The complete opposite from the bums in mob beating article.
GOD BLESS HIM AND HIS FAMILY!
http://www.manassasjm.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=MJM/MGArticle/WPN_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173354455840&path=
999, they are being held without bond. Could they be illegal and the newspaper failed to tell us?
Juan McCain is a War Hero because he says so…every chance he gets.
starryflights said on 2 Feb 2008 at 12:00 pm:
999, they are being held without bond. Could they be illegal and the newspaper failed to tell us?
That seems to be true. If they were not illegal, wouldn’t they be offered to post bail?
Read how Juan McCain’s own state feels about him.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/01/AR2008020103260_pf.html
starryflights said on 2 Feb 2008 at 12:02 pm:
“Juan McCain is a War Hero because he says so…every chance he gets.”
You beat me to it! That should answer your question, 999.
manassascityresident said on 2 Feb 2008 at 12:13 pm:
That should answer your question
Thanks. I have never seen or heard of anything that made him stand above his peers in the military other than the fact he was a POW. Maybe his father being an Admiral gave him a “special” place to be called a hero.
I still don’t understand how McCain is getting all his votes. Who ARE these people that are voting for him? (shaking my head in disbelief)
Did you all see Ann Coulter on FOX News yesterday? She said that she’d rather vote for Billery than McCain. He is NO CONSERVATIVE, and she is asking herself (as many are) the same question. I don’t get it either, Starryflights.
mcr & starryflights,
I heard her say that Thursday on Hannity & Colmes too.
Pretty sad state of affairs I think for Ann Coulter to be making a statement like that. Yikes!
Well, now she has proven what an idiot she has always been - out loud and by her own hand.
I’ve been affliated/registerd with the Democratic party for years (and yes, will die one) and never had an incliniation to vote for them. Never. So, where is she coming from? Needs to make the news or something?
OH BROTHER
Ann Colter is saying she will vote for Clinton because Clinton at least is following her Party lines. Juan McCain is a false Rep. Candidate. He is more in line with Clinton than his own Party. I would NEVER..NEVER…NEVER vote for McCain!
Good, you can vote for Hiliary…..
I just might.
You made me LOL
I really can’t. Have thought about the woman thing, thought about Iraq, thought about a lot of stuff. Just can’t.
She waffles. McCain will tell someone to shove it. I need the latter more than the former.
McCain become a “hero” because his plane got shot down. However, I have seen the place where he was held (Hanoi Hilton) and I must say that I admire anyone who survived that hell hole for years. Not all of them decided to run for political office, but I’m sure there are heros from that era in other fields.
JFK said when asked by a little boy how he became a hero “It was absolutely involuntary. They sank my boat.” Yes, I have mentioned this before, but it needs repeating.
I don’t think McCain is the right person to lead the country. As a matter of fact, I think most Americans suffer from electic dysfunction.
Interesting article on John “McNasty” McCain
http://www.nndb.com/people/914/000023845/
Another interesting article on McCain from Vietnam Vets Against McCain
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/cin_mccain_lost_five_u.htm
Wow…Juan McCain received 28 medals for 20 hours of combat. That seems pretty excessive. Born in Panama…didn’t know that.
The man who would be president. Ducky’s choice!
http://www.vvof.org/mccain_hides.htm
v said on 2 Feb 2008 at 3:21 pm:
Thanks for posting the article - everyone should read it!
vietnamveteransagainst…. I don’t believe much of what this group has to say. Jealousy, I believe, drives those guys.
BTW, where are are military fellows on this blog who like to talk about their stints in the Philiphines and other sundry areas, and how they are, or were, willing to give their lives for the country? How do they feel about McCain? Would they have stood up under torture in a hell hole prison? Or doesn’t that have anything to do with McCain?
Juan McAmnesty
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/cin_mccain_drops_f.htm
Krusty -
You are missing the point. Did you bother to read the article, or just come to the “jealousy” conclusion just by reading the web link?
Juan is claiming to be something he is not. And that is that he is a conservative, which clearly he is not. He is running solely on his POW status.
I think you should read all of the articles listed above before you comment.
As for the “military fellows” on this blog - MANY have served their country proudly. They talk to each other about their service because they have something in common, not because they are looking for a pat on the back or an “atta boy”.
Krusty-
I don’t like McCain, never did. Yes, he survived a hellish prisoner of war stint. How would I fare under torture? Been there, done that, upside down, on the water board, etc. Detached to SERE School in NC. All we know about McCain is what he tells us. We don’t know what he told his interrogators. I know that the only people who manage to not talk, die trying.
He won’t get my vote because he advocates amnesty for illegal aliens, his arrogance (Bush-like in scope) and his hypocrisy. Real heroes don’t run for office based on the hero factor. Romney better talk the talk or I will vote for Obama.
All of this talk about protest voting is misguided. All you will accomplish is to give Hillary or Obama a larger percentage of the vote. Talk of a “mandate” will begin, and you will empower these bozos.
The best protest is to not vote at all. Low voter turnout would be the best way to let the parties know we are unhappy with the choices given to us. I know that many people feel it is their duty to vote. I think it is my duty to vote my conscience, and I cannot in good conscience vote for McCain or either of these democrats.
I agree with you all. I don’t want McCain! He rides his POW status like Guiliano (sp?) rode his 9/11. Only difference is that McC’s “event” happened much longer ago and should not be brought up time and time again. We sure do have some choices this time around. Alas!
I saw a couple of comments wondering about McCain. I spent 1968-1971 in various parts of South-East Asia and watched a bit of his story play out in the press (although we had no idea what he went through until he was released). The following link is to an interview he gave to U.S. News & World Report in 1973 (shortly after he was released).
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1084711/posts
I don’t plan to vote for the man. The threat of 100 more years in Iraq and his “closet liberal” views helped me make my decision (frankly, Hillary doesn’t look that bad these days). I do; however, salute his military service and honor his sacrifice. His refusal for early release when offered (because his captors found out who his father was) demonstrated the highest standards of conduct for a military man.
I hold those who disparage his record and service right below an illegal immigrant.
I am not a McCain fan. However, I would never say he isn’t a war hero and I don’t think anyone here has the right to say that either. Just surviving the Hanoi Hilton makes him one in my eyes. I will never forget seeing those POWs get off the plane on TV. It was heartbreaking, yet filled my heart with pride.
Does being a POW make one presidential material? Probably not. I just do not like hearing that he isn’t a war hero. (and I have no intention of voting for him) Suggestion: Stick to relevant issues.
If discussing the candidates in the upcoming election isn’t a relevant issue, than what pray tell is? This is an “open thread” isn’t it? Maybe I missed something.
MCR,
I said nothing about not discussing candidates. I said I didn’t like people saying that McCain is not a war hero. I really don’t think anyone here is in the position to make that claim.
However, anyone is entitled to make a determination about who should be president based on a candidate’s position and past performance on issues.
Dolph -
Did you read the articles posted above? Just curious. If not, you really should.
We really don’t need to talk about whether or not he’s a war hero - he pretty much takes care of that all by himself…..on a pretty regular basis.
So today’s ad is “help support health clinics providing critical aid to evacuees”.
So much for e-verify when it comes to taking money. This is is a hoot.
http://mail.lycos.com/lycos/Index.lycos?right=%2Flycos%2Fmail%2FViewMail.lycos%3FMSGID%3D0000000000000YK%26FOLDER%3DInbox
Hope it works. Got this from a buddy of mine in Tayhas(Aztlan to you Gringos).
Johnson,
I got a sign in page for Lycos email. Hmm.
Me too.
OOPS! Let’s try that again…apologies if any tender sensibilities were trod upon.
http://mail.lycos.com/lycos/Index.lycos?right=%2Flycos%2Fmail%2FViewMail.lycos%3FMSGID%3D0000000000000YL%26FOLDER%3DInbox
MCR, Yea, and the fact that it was Vietnam Veterans Against McCain put me off. I would have to have those charges documented before I believed them. However, I have no intensions of voting for McCain so I wouldn’t go to the trouble of confirming or denying the accusations.
I just don’t like swiftboating people. I don’t think that one’s vietnam (or any other war) experiences qualify a person for public office but it enhances that persons desirability. We honor vets. We honor veterans of war more than those who weren’t in the service during war time, although perhaps not consciously. Those who suffered such as a POW or lost limbs are seen in an especially good light.
While I will probably never vote for McCain for many other reasons, I will never diss him over his service to his country or his time he spent as a POW. He simply does not deserve that.
Johnson,
No tender sensibilities here!
Sorry, I got the same thing again. Is this from recent news article?
Krusty said on 2 Feb 2008 at 7:52 pm:
I agree with you all. I don’t want McCain! He rides his POW status like Guiliano (sp?) rode his 9/11. Only difference is that McC’s “event” happened much longer ago and should not be brought up time and time again. We sure do have some choices this time around. Alas!
…….and three out of the four (Clinton, Obama and McCain) choices want total amnesty for illegal aliens.
…..and for those who may have forgotten…..
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2000/012900b.html
Patty,
Did you know that 04 Woodstock is up for auction soon?
**
We’ve now got TEN vacant houses out of 30. It’s official now a THIRD of my block are vacant houses. My next door neighbors vacated in the middle of the night. They were renters, and I’m hoping it’s just that their lease was up and not another foreclosure.
Lafayette, this is great news, if illegals are the ones leaving. Let us hope that we can clean up our country and show legal immigrants and U.S. Citizens that Prince William County is a nice place to live and they will come and take advantage of the lower housing prices.
Lafayette,
04 had wire hand low yesterday. I saw the white sign. 08 has a different realtor. Lots of activity. 03 KG is not looking too good.
Lafayette,
My typing skills stink today. Should be “hang low” instead of hand low. Sorry.
999,
Thanks for posting that article. I sure hope many read it. This is very important given our current number foreclosure, and talk of bail outs. These greedy banks made these sorry a$$ loans and should have to suffer the consequences. IMHO
Lafayette,
I don’t feel sorry for them in the least. However, their behavior is affecting the entire stock market. I don’t understand it well enough to say much more than other, other than the financials are affecting everything else.
I would also like to push those locally who sold to people who really couldn’t qualify. To me, it was just dishonest. I feel the borrowers are victims.
I think it was pure greed on both sides. That’s why to get out of it both should pay hefty fines. No free rides - but it would beat more bankrupcies.
I understand families wanting the American dream….especially if some schlock realtor convinced you that you could afford this house if you….fill in the blanks. Some of those guys are real hard sell. Rents were also getting steeper and steeper. I expect a lot of people thought they were going to save some money buy buying a house and taking in a room mate or 2.
The realtors and lending institutions knew exactly what they were doing. Shame on them.
Greed was everywhere during the boom. I had one real eastate agent Sr. Barrientos tell me most of these folks NEVER even saw the houses they bought until after the settlement. This is foolish.
That is what happens when people with day to day mentalities buy homes. People should simply recognize their limitations and work to change them. Not hope that someone can change them for them by giving them something.
Dolph,
Did those Realtors hold a gun to the heads of those people?
I may go into a car dealership and have a guy try and sell me a car, which is his job, but it is my responsibility to take the time and think if I can afford it.
Or, put it another way….. Burger King attempts to sway me to buy from them, but it still takes an effort on my part to go the local BK lounge and buy from them. Illegals abused the system, and did not care what they were doing, because they realized they could just walk away without any personal responsibility, just like they did when they broke into the Country.
CitizenofManassas,
Yes, with no money down they had nothing to lose. Just a place to stay until they got kicked out. It explains why these houses are run down. They never put one penny in upkeep. All their extra money went towards cars, tvs, anything they could take with them.
Billyboy,
I’m sure you know that the Giants beat the Patriots. A NFC east team won. At least I have the satisfaction of knowing the Redskins beat the Giants. I guess we’ll find out what Dan Snyder will do this week. I wish Joe Gibbs owned the team.
I hope you are feeling better. I miss your comments.
Go Redskins! I hope they beat the Giants twice next year.
COM,
I was speaking nationally. I was not talking about illegals. If you look at the numbers of foreclosures around the country, they certainly are not limited to illegal aliens. In fact, I am not even going to say the ones here are were owned by illegal aliens. I do not know.
Many people nationally were tricked and lied to. Some were given information that just was not accurate. Other folks had their circumstances change.
Dolph,
If you review the foreclosure listings in the local papers, the vast majority of the foreclosures are of owners with Hispanic names. In the foreclosures on my street and surrounding streets, I can attest that each house was owned by Latinos and the houses were overcrowded. To me this suggests that the homes were owned by illegal aliens - having no respect for our zoning laws. Further, the homes were abandoned - with the occupants moving out under the cover of darkness. I witnessed the moveouts of the houses on both sides of me and across the street from me.
Loudoun said on 4 Feb 2008 at 7:43 am:
Dolph,
If you review the foreclosure listings in the local papers, the vast majority of the foreclosures are of owners with Hispanic names.
Further, the homes were abandoned - with the occupants moving out under the cover of darkness.
Don’t forget that proably most everything inside the houses that was not fully secured was also removed i.e. light fixtures, appliances, curtains and rods, bilinds and the list goes on. One house in Sudley occupied by Latinos had the front and rear doors removed as well at the items cited above. Look around the neighborhoods at the houses that have been abandoned and under foreclosure with no curtains/blinds and check the reality signs. Houses formerly occupied by Latinos and being marketed by Latino real estate “agents.”
dolph said on 3 Feb 2008 at 11:34 pm:
Many people nationally were tricked and lied to. Some were given information that just was not accurate. Other folks had their circumstances change.
Many also moved into houses with “no money down, interest only loans” knowing full well that after one year of making NO payments and overcrowding these houses and collecting “RENT” from their “RELATIVES” that they were going to “bail out” with nothing lost. Some walked away because they owed far more that the house was worth and wasn’t worth (in their opinion) putting on the market. It was far easier to just leave.
I saw the house across the street stripped of damn near everything but the kitchen. Yes, most foreclosures are Latino names, but there are quite of few “tradidtional” American, African, and other nationalities too. The Latino community was in cahoots from start to finish with the sales of houses. The real estate agent, title company, mortgage broker, settlement companies usually have “family ties”. People, were trusting of what they were told. This goes for speakers of all languages. Everyone was GREEDY and this includes folks wanting to buy these house during the boom writing contracts well over the asking price. Everyone wanted a piece of the pie. As for the Latino community they were never told that the property value could decrease. Then as for the other people they just wanted to own their own home and got in on the action too. The lenders that made these sub-prime, adjustable rate mortgages are mostly to blame.
I would like to say I seriously doubt all of these house owned by Latinos now being foreclosed were all illegals(some were). I do believe there were several Latino slum lords and business owners that were more than happy to get high rent from multiple occupants and then when the interest rate adjusted and principal had to start being paid on the mortgages the payment were no longer being made and then foreclosure will happen.
Nationally Nationally Nationally. I don’t know how to make you all hear me. Life goes past Manassas.
In this area, I agree. Many of the foreclosures are people with Hispanic last names. I don’t know the status of those with foreclosures and neither does anyone else.
Nationally, that is not the case, however. People from all ethnicities have had foreclosures.
I do not fault people who just want to own a house as long as they are doing what they think is legal. I have had several slick reators over the years attempt to convince me that I could own far beyond my means. I know someone else that was sold a condo. The problem? The buyer had a great dane. Maximum weight for a dog was 25 pounds. She had to turn around and sell. She had been told the dog would be fine, by her realtor.
I will always blame the person making money off the deal rather than the home buyer. Most people want the American dream and we are not all financial experts.
dolph said on 4 Feb 2008 at 10:08 am:
Nationally Nationally Nationally.
http://www.voiceofsandiego.org/articles/2007/04/18/housing/932foreclosure041307.txt
California Mortgage Comparisons
50 percent all Latinos who purchased a home in 2005 received a subprime loan vs. 17 percent for white borrowers
27 percent of all Latinos who refinanced a home in 2005 received a subprime loan vs. 13 percent for white borrowers
Of 84,617 subprime loans to Latinos, 16,923 will foreclose
Source: Center for Responsible Lending
999
You know, I am not sure of your point.
Were I just dropping by the blog to see what it was all about, I KNOW what I would assume, just from reading.
Wow, Bush’s budget is a the last nail in the coffin for the future of our children. They have little hope of prosperity now.
Little hope of security either, our borders are still open, people coming across, our ports are open and the world hates us more than they did 8 years ago.
And this new budget just sticks it to us.
F U Bush.
Vigilant1
Did you see the new markings on Strasburg just before Copeland going towards SM? It looks like a new NW sign might be going up.
Interesting facts
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2008/01/state_of_latinos.html
dolph said on 4 Feb 2008 at 10:57 am:
999
You know, I am not sure of your point.
I am just pointing out that Latinos and Blacks are the ones hardest hit by the predatory lenders and sub-prime mortgages.
That problem is NATIONALY.
Dolph,
Why do you not blame stupid people for this mess? Again, just because home ownership is possible does not mean a person should jump into it without doing a bit of research.
It is called personal responsibility, and I have no sympathy for people who did not do their home work.
Dolph
Good advice in that last post “You just can’t fix stupid”.
I think that was Bill Parcells…..
COM,
The playing field is not level. When you go to buy a house, you should be able to trust your realtor. Operative word here, SHOULD. Same with your lender.
If you go to have your taxes done, you count on the professional to know the rules, laws, ropes in general. Same if you go to settle something legally. You hire a lawyer. You get sick, you hired a doctor.
I do not know all the ins and outs of real estate and buying and selling a home. That is why I would pay the 6% to have my house sold professionally.
I have always thought cheating people to make an easy buck was wrong and that those it happened to were called victims.