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By Greg L | 31 January 2008 | Uncategorized | 228 Comments

Once again, a place for all of those off-topic discussions…



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228 Comments

  1. Rob Smalls (Inspiration of the BVBL 40K Post) said on 31 Jan 2008 at 11:10 am:
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    Anyone bought any nice firearms lately?

  2. Rt1Resident said on 31 Jan 2008 at 11:27 am:
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    I just got a sweet shot gun.

  3. manassascityresident said on 31 Jan 2008 at 11:49 am:
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    Channel 8 discussed the Rt.1/Parkway 7-Eleven last night regarding the illegals. Police are trying to “shooh” them away. Our very dear friend, Nancy Lyall, was there to give her worthless two cents by saying “they’re not doing anything illegal”….. blah blah blah.
    I was shocked!! (NOT).

  4. Krusty said on 31 Jan 2008 at 11:59 am:
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    So, Rt1Resident, what’s SWEET about a shotgun?

  5. Rob Smalls (Inspiration of the BVBL 40K Post) said on 31 Jan 2008 at 11:59 am:
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    R1R - What’s the make and model? I need to get a good one myself.

  6. BattleCat said on 31 Jan 2008 at 12:22 pm:
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    Rob,
    Funny you should mention that. I just got rid of all my firearms and replaced with new ones. Rem 870 Express 20 gauge with Knoxx Spec Ops Stock and magazine extension (SHTF gun), Beretta CX4 Storm in 9mm, Colt AR-15 (A3 LEO), and a Ruger 10/22 for plinking.

  7. BattleCat said on 31 Jan 2008 at 12:24 pm:
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    I should just have my paychecks sent directly to VA Arms :)

  8. BattleCat said on 31 Jan 2008 at 12:30 pm:
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    Krusty,

    You didn’t ask me, but I’ll help out with what could be sweet about a shotgun. Unfortunately, the sweet ones are the REALLY expensive ones. There are certain Ayo and Beretta side-by-sides that have beautiful engraving, a stock made out of a gorgeous piece of wood. The best way I’ve heard it described was “examples of the gunmakers art”. It’s almost more about the craftsmanship and beauty of the materials than about the fact that it shoots lead out of it. I would propose that these almost artistic pieces could be sweet. Feel free to disagree.

  9. dolph said on 31 Jan 2008 at 12:41 pm:
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    MCR,

    Since when is loitering ok? Why was she even there at 7-11. Good grief.

    Oh well, its 7-11’s business. If they can make enough off of vagrants and don’t need the rest of our business, go at it. When 7-11 has had enough business lost, my guess is that the loitering will stop.

  10. dolph said on 31 Jan 2008 at 12:43 pm:
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    There is a gun group. Ok. Fair enough. I like turquoise. Does anyone else like gemstones?

  11. madmom said on 31 Jan 2008 at 1:00 pm:
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    I watched the debate last night. I really liked Romney. McCain really
    avoided answering the illegal alien issue. He won’t get my vote.

  12. BattleCat said on 31 Jan 2008 at 1:05 pm:
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    McCain was like a parrot. He just keeps saying the same couple of sentences over and over, and it looks like he’s going to be the Republican candidate…sigh. What was really annoying about the debate was how CNN basically shut down Paul and Huckabee in front of the whole viewing audience. The media (in my opinion) has a little too much influence on this whole process.

    Hey Dolph,
    I think you can get truck nutz in turquoise chrome…..Viva La Truck Nutz!

  13. madmom said on 31 Jan 2008 at 1:13 pm:
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    Hi Dolph - welcome back. :)
    You musta swum south to pristine, unpolluted waters. I hope you are
    reenergized.

  14. West Gate Witch said on 31 Jan 2008 at 1:13 pm:
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    dolph,
    I like shiny jewels! ;)

  15. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 31 Jan 2008 at 1:15 pm:
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    manassascityresident said on 31 Jan 2008 at 11:49 am:

    Since when is loitering LEGAL?
    Since when is working without proper paperwork LEGAL?
    Since when is working without paying with holding taxes LEGAL?

    She was there because someone in her posse notified her that the news was going to address the issue with a report and she could have a say about it.

  16. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 31 Jan 2008 at 1:18 pm:
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    The media (in my opinion) has a little too much influence on this whole process.

    I couldn’t agree more. Don’t they realize that the more they do to Paul, the more attention he is getting? He has so much money in his coffers that it wouldn’t surprise me to see him run as an independent.

  17. silverfox said on 31 Jan 2008 at 1:30 pm:
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    “POLICE ARE TRYING TO “SHOOH” THEM AWAY”

    Wake up America, there is now a de facto two tier system of law enforcement in this country. YOU obey the laws, while illegal aliens do whatever, wherever, whenever they want without punishment.

    We all see how selective law enforcement is working in the city of Manassas and in PW county. What to do about it is up to you! Being silent and uninvolved is not the answer.

  18. Compassionate Conservative said on 31 Jan 2008 at 1:36 pm:
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    “Since when is loitering LEGAL?
    Since when is working without proper paperwork LEGAL?
    Since when is working without paying with holding taxes LEGAL?”

    Yes, loitering is ILLEGAL.
    You don’t know who there is legal and who isn’t. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with being a daylaborer.
    You don’t know if they are declaring this money or not. It’s just like anybody else that works in a field where they are paid cash like a waiter/waitress.

    Also, last I checked it’s not illegal to hire them either. You can legally pay someone without paying social security etc… if it’s not more than $250 per year. I haven’t checked this in years, so maybe it’s changed but it used to be this way.

  19. es_la_ley said on 31 Jan 2008 at 1:40 pm:
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    Loiterers’ Minor Infractions Targeted in Va.

    http://www.wtop.com/?nid=730&sid=1336590

  20. Advocator said on 31 Jan 2008 at 1:40 pm:
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    I just saw a grew minivan (Honda, I believe) delivering coffee and condiments to the loiterers (about 12) at the Coverstone site.

    Dolf: I would have pegged you as partial to RINO-stones.

  21. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 31 Jan 2008 at 1:59 pm:
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    es_la_ley said on 31 Jan 2008 at 1:40 pm:

    As I said, clean up the smaller crimes and we will see a decrease in larger ones. They have not realized the consequences of their actions.
    _____________

    Compassionate Conservative said on 31 Jan 2008 at 1:36 pm:

    Then I challenge you to show they are LEGAL. The common denominator with the day laborers is their status. I know I have seen these people there several days and I am sure they earn more than $250/year.

    It is this apologetic mindset that has gotten us into this situation. We have to stand up and make sure the jobs are dried up and that employers are forced to use E-Verify.

  22. PWConservative said on 31 Jan 2008 at 2:09 pm:
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    I just got a Model 70 Winchester 300. SM, Now I just have to get a AR15 and i’ll feel safe

  23. Krusty said on 31 Jan 2008 at 2:32 pm:
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    Rob Smalls 11:59 am - You NEED one! What for?

    PWC 2:09 pm - How many guns to you HAVE TO GET in order to feel safe? And, safe from what or whom? I don’t have a gun. Should I worry?

  24. Thumper said on 31 Jan 2008 at 2:44 pm:
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    Krusty, If Rob Smalls is between 16-45 and fit, He’s a member of unorganized militia and maybe called to service at any time by Governor of Virginia. Generally militia means you show up with your own arms. To show up when called, he must own require guns to do so.

    You don’t need a gun. SHould you worry? Apparently since your asking that question I guess not. Just remember, PWC PD average response time to hot calls is 6 minutes from 911 call being placed to first officer on scene. If your house is being invaded or criminals are surrounding your car, that’s going to be the longest 6 minutes of your life. VT shooting was only 9 minutes long but I bet for everyone in that room, it felt like 9 days.

  25. Advocator said on 31 Jan 2008 at 2:44 pm:
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    PWC: You should get an AK-47 instead. More reliable, cheaper, cheaper ammo, etc.

    Krusty: Some people are just so ignorant they always feel safe. To some extent, I envy them, so I don’t take the time to explain why they should feel otherwise.

  26. manassascityresident said on 31 Jan 2008 at 2:57 pm:
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    madmom said on 31 Jan 2008 at 1:00 pm:

    AMEN to that!

  27. Krusty said on 31 Jan 2008 at 3:07 pm:
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    Advocator till PWC: “You should get an AK-47 instead”. Designed by Mikhail Timofeevich Kalashnikov for the Soviet Army; assault weapon. You need that in PWC?

    Then there was another PWC citizen commenting on BVBL who always takes his gun (make unknown) and his Doberman when he goes for a walk. I’ll tell you, PWC is getting to be an armed camp. Safe?

  28. Johnson said on 31 Jan 2008 at 3:15 pm:
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    Wal-Mart put their whole inventory on sale in Oct. I picked up a Win. 70 .270 for $350 and a Remington 700 ADL Youth .243 for $320 (after 10% rebate). Sweet!

  29. Johnson said on 31 Jan 2008 at 3:30 pm:
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    BattleCat-
    How’s Bernie? Has he wrecked his rice rocket lately?

  30. Advocator said on 31 Jan 2008 at 3:30 pm:
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    Krusty: Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

  31. Johnson said on 31 Jan 2008 at 3:50 pm:
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    Advocator-
    The bolt rifles are for Bambi and his sister. I have a Springfield Armory SAR 48 (Match) .308 for the two legged game. Bought it right before the George H.W. Bush Memorial Ban on Imported Military Weapons Act went into effect in ‘88. It performed well enough at the Law Enforcement Olympics 500 meter slow fire. (Silver) I may be persueded to allow it to be torn from my grasp for the proper renumeration. :-)

  32. Rob Smalls (Inspiration of the BVBL 40K Post) said on 31 Jan 2008 at 3:52 pm:
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    Krusty - We’ve gone rounds about this before. I’m not going to initiate that same tired argument with you, because both of our minds are made up.

    Battlecat - How are the Colt AR-15s? I have a 1911 by them and it’s a great shoot. I use a Walther G-22 for my plinking. It’s not a bad gun, but it is prone to jamming once in a while. I haven’t gone over to VA Arms in a few months, but prior to that I was giving them pretty good business too.

  33. Johnson said on 31 Jan 2008 at 4:01 pm:
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    http://speaker.house.gov/newsroom/pressreleases?id=0514

    Much as I hate to admit it, I like it.

  34. Johnson said on 31 Jan 2008 at 4:04 pm:
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    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-sanctuary31jan31,0,3060989.story

    Wow! Can we send our illegals back through there on the way home?

  35. BattleCat said on 31 Jan 2008 at 4:15 pm:
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    Well, I’m not saying anything against anyone, but when the Federal government won’t protect us (yeah, yeah, we haven’t had another Sept. 11, but , that doesn’t really say anything to me), and the state won’t protect us (which is so recently obvious), and the local policia won’t protect us, well, the buck stops somewhere! The law I’d really like to see in Virginia is a castle doctrine.

  36. BattleCat said on 31 Jan 2008 at 4:30 pm:
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    Johnson,

    Just saw Bernie today…he had a check for me from a consignment sale. He’s doing great!

  37. Johnson said on 31 Jan 2008 at 4:31 pm:
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    I LOVE my Walther P-22. 3″ for carrying, 5″ for target. Try using Stingers in it. They work fine and are totally accurate. Kinda pricey, though.

  38. Old Soldier said on 31 Jan 2008 at 4:31 pm:
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    What BattleCat said on 31 Jan 2008 at 4:15 pm

    I am also a fan of the castle doctrine (and am always armed… I favor a Keltec PF9 these days because I can use my 92FS 9mm ammo in it. Yes, I have a CCW permit.)

    A pacemaker turned my Browning Citori 12 gage & Winchester Model 94 into conversation pieces (because they put the pacemaker on the wrong side while I was under). If you ever go under for a pacemaker, make sure to tell them if you are right or left handed!

  39. Old Soldier said on 31 Jan 2008 at 4:32 pm:
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    And I’ve purchased a couple of guns from Bernie (and about every other gun shop past or present in the Northern Virginia area). I may put my conversation pieces up for consignment with him.

  40. Anonymous said on 31 Jan 2008 at 4:34 pm:
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    dolph said on 31 Jan 2008 at 12:41 pm:
    Why was she even there at 7-11.

    Had a craving for a Slurpy.

  41. Loudoun said on 31 Jan 2008 at 4:36 pm:
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    I am in the market for a 45 Smith & Wesson. Anyone out there own one?

    I want to take my kids to a gun safety class, and then take them target shooting at Isaak Walton.

  42. Johnson said on 31 Jan 2008 at 4:43 pm:
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    Old Soldier-

    I understand. I had a bypass in ‘03. No long guns for 6 months. Can they move your pacemaker?

  43. 999 said on 31 Jan 2008 at 4:43 pm:
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    Krusty said on 31 Jan 2008 at 3:07 pm:
    Then there was another PWC citizen commenting on BVBL who always takes his gun (make unknown) and his Doberman when he goes for a walk.

    Safest guy in the county!

  44. Anonymous said on 31 Jan 2008 at 4:51 pm:
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    Still have my trusty Red Ryder.

  45. Old Soldier said on 31 Jan 2008 at 4:51 pm:
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    What Johnson said on 31 Jan 2008 at 4:43 pm

    I suppose they could; however, they don’t really recommend it. Once the wires “grow in”, it’s there to stay. While I complain, I’m grateful as it beats the alternative… and wasn’t in much of a position to protest when they did the surgery.

  46. Old Soldier said on 31 Jan 2008 at 4:53 pm:
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    What Loudoun said on 31 Jan 2008 at 4:36 pm

    As luck would have it, I’m pretty sure I saw a S&W .45 on dutch auction at the gun shop on 28 just past the Parkway (going south, on the left). I think it’s called something creative like Guns & Ammo Depot or something… one of my regular haunts.

  47. es_la_ley said on 31 Jan 2008 at 4:53 pm:
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    BattleCat: “Rem 870 Express 20 gauge with Knoxx Spec Ops Stock and magazine extension (SHTF gun)”

    Cool. I like the 870. I got the 12 gauge and absolutely have to order a Knoxx spec op stock soon. :-)

  48. One Voice said on 31 Jan 2008 at 5:02 pm:
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    Well, I just bought a Wolfgang Puck immersion blender. Stainless. That baby could mess up your face just fine if you get close enough to me. Maybe I’ll get an adapter and keep it in my car. :)

  49. Old Soldier said on 31 Jan 2008 at 5:10 pm:
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    Wow… the Wolfgang Puck… Stainless Steel no less! Did you get the high capacity mixing caraffe (or, are those still illegal?) Make sure you have a CCB (Concealed Carry Blender) permit before carrying it in your car (or leave it in plain sight at all times.)

    Just remember, it’s against the law to brandish a blender in public.

  50. es_la_ley said on 31 Jan 2008 at 5:20 pm:
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    article…

    Hate Speech Cited in Immigration Debate

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/01/31/national/w134417S76.DTL

  51. Old Soldier said on 31 Jan 2008 at 5:34 pm:
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    One Voice, I’ll never forget Charleton Heston’s speach to the National Blender Association (the NBA), “You’ll have to take my blender from my cold, dead hands!”

  52. 999 said on 31 Jan 2008 at 5:50 pm:
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    One Voice said on 31 Jan 2008 at 5:02 pm:
    Well, I just bought a Wolfgang Puck immersion blender. Stainless. That baby could mess up your face just fine if you get close enough to me. Maybe I’ll get an adapter and keep it in my car.

    You’ll cut your finger off!

  53. es_la_ley said on 31 Jan 2008 at 5:50 pm:
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    BOO! HISS!

  54. es_la_ley said on 31 Jan 2008 at 5:51 pm:
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    You know… you can put an eye out with that thing…

  55. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 31 Jan 2008 at 6:23 pm:
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    News today:

    Congress has been working into the night and early morning hours trying to get bi-partisan support for The WASABI (The Wolfgang And Stainless Appliance and Blender Initiative). Many members are afraid the initiative will cause many frozen drinks to become impossible to make. WASABI has been introduced to make the Wolfgang Puck and other stainless steel appliances illegal. The blender has been the main target of the initiative. “Congress is just not ready to give up their drinking habits”, stated Senator Ted Kennedy (D MA) at a news conference earlier today.

    It is expected that WASABI will die in the ATF committee later this week.

  56. es_la_ley said on 31 Jan 2008 at 6:46 pm:
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    /\/\3|)iç 64: ““Congress is just not ready to give up their drinking habits”, stated Senator Ted Kennedy (D MA) at a news conference earlier today.”

    This thread started sinking really fast, but that quip started reversing the tide.

    Ted Kennedy… LMAO!

  57. Old Soldier said on 31 Jan 2008 at 7:19 pm:
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    Blenders don’t mix drinks… people mix drinks.

  58. One Voice said on 31 Jan 2008 at 7:43 pm:
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    Now you guys are really funny. I have to say you adapted very well and with great humor to me interrupting the gun talk.

    Old Soldier - that last one made everyone in my house laugh.

  59. es_la_ley said on 31 Jan 2008 at 7:43 pm:
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    Old Soldier: “I think it’s called something creative like Guns & Ammo Depot or something… one of my regular haunts.”

    That would be the Gun & Ammo Warehouse. Yea. I haunt that place too, usually every weekend. :-)

    The bids close on Sunday at 1:00. I drift in around 10:00, grab a donut and coffee and check the bids. I’ll look for an Old Soldier now when I go. :-)

  60. es_la_ley said on 31 Jan 2008 at 7:54 pm:
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    I had a buddy that did a parody of Elvis’s song “Return To Sender” called “Return The Blender”. I wish I kept it for just this thread. :-)

  61. CitizenofManassas said on 31 Jan 2008 at 9:05 pm:
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    I love how the Washington COMPOST of late has had a few folks from Manassas in their fish wrap complaining about the “reputation” the City is getting and how businesses are turned off by the attempts to control illegal aliens and the problems they bring.

    Well, all we have to do is look at the Route 1 area and see exactly what happens when illegals are able to openly live and operate. Yes, that area may have started down hill before illegal aliens stated to move into the area, but the illegals have almost made it impossible to turn the tide.

    Maybe those folks who have complained about the “reputation” of Manassas can move onto Route 1, that way they can be with their brethren, and we can replace them here in the City with folks who believe in the rule of law and would like to see the City become a model for families and how to combat all crime.

  62. starryflights said on 31 Jan 2008 at 9:48 pm:
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    Please don’t encourage more illegal aliens to move to Woodbridge/Dale City. WE DON”T WANT THEM!!

  63. dolph said on 31 Jan 2008 at 9:50 pm:
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    Snicker. Chortle. Great blender adaptation folks. Great comment Advocator, on my proclivities. The answer is no but it was a great one liner on your part.

    Una Voce, I am getting worried about the chix. I just bought a kitchenaid mixer. Probably not as fine a caliber as your blender though.

    I would talk about guns but mine is in an arrested stage of development. I would be too embarassed to ask how to fix it on here. It was sort of a chix stunt. sigh.

  64. MdMan said on 31 Jan 2008 at 10:05 pm:
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    OV - do you get the urge to lie on your back every time you encounter another human?

  65. Lafayette said on 31 Jan 2008 at 10:23 pm:
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    Vigilant1,
    I just did a dark “field trip” of nearby Sudley streets.
    The third house from the corner on GV and Strasburg was lit up like a Christmas tree. There weren’t quite as many cars there as I thought there might be. Boy there sure were a lot of cars on Copeland.
    Did you see the NW watch sign has been moved to the other side of the street? I wonder what’s up with that. Does it only cover one side of the block? I did see a man walking a white dog at Copeland & GV, and maybe that was the canine NW.

  66. Patty said on 31 Jan 2008 at 10:36 pm:
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    Billyboy said on 31 Jan 2008 at 9:24 am:

    “… Hang in there Patty, this is almost as bad as watching Dan Snyder screw up the Redskins.”

    I know this was on the other thread about Senator Colgan’s SB90 but I thought since this is a open thread that we could talk about how Dan Snyder is taking less than a month to destroy the Redskins. Like I said in the other thread - All sanity left when Coach Joe left.

    What is going on with this man? He said he wanted continuity. Then he fires Williams and Saunders. He then promotes the line coach to defensive coordinator and then he hires Zorn for the offensive coordinator without getting a head coach. Am I missing something here. Shouldn’t he hire a head coach and let him pick the staff?

    Oh I had a horrible thought. Maybe Dan Snyder wants to coach the team.

    Maybe we can hope Coach Joe can buy the team from Snyder.

    Any thoughts out there?

  67. Krusty said on 31 Jan 2008 at 11:15 pm:
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    COACH SNYDER - The very thought! Rolling on the floor. Thanks, Patty, just what I need for my dreams tonight. I’ll probably be laughing out loud in my sleep. WOW!

  68. PWConservative said on 1 Feb 2008 at 2:30 am:
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    Advocator… Good idea on the AK, I may just swing that way, but i really like the look of an AR15
    Krusty… This is PWC, of course I need a gun, Seeng as how the police aren’t crazy about enforcing the law and I reaaaallyy doubt that a killer will wait 20 minutes by my bed for the police to show up………….

  69. PWConservative said on 1 Feb 2008 at 2:37 am:
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    To everybody debating which Gun store to go to, i would recommend either VA Arms (very reasonable) and Clark Bros (Big Republican Signs outside)

  70. Anon1 said on 1 Feb 2008 at 6:05 am:
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    Why is there a McCain banner at the top of the front page? I thought Greg supported Romney.

  71. One Voice said on 1 Feb 2008 at 7:07 am:
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    MdMan said on 31 Jan 2008 at 10:05 pm:
    OV - do you get the urge to lie on your back every time you encounter another human?

    Don’t get it. Guess I missed the point, if there was one.

  72. Krusty said on 1 Feb 2008 at 7:11 am:
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    PWConservative 2:37 am - Don’t underestimate the old castiron frying pan!!!

  73. Krusty said on 1 Feb 2008 at 7:12 am:
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    PWC at “2:30 am”

  74. BattleCat said on 1 Feb 2008 at 7:18 am:
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    Anon1,

    My guess is that Greg needs advertising income to support his many activities, and unless it’s “Mexicans w/o Borders”, advertising money is advertising money.

    BTW, Mexicans w/o Borders, meet Americans with Borders.

  75. One Voice said on 1 Feb 2008 at 7:20 am:
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    That attitude is why we have illegals working here. Money is money! :)

  76. Ducky said on 1 Feb 2008 at 7:28 am:
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    I am very happy to see that Greg is advertising for John McCain! John McCain would make a fine president!

  77. Old Soldier said on 1 Feb 2008 at 8:00 am:
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    What es_la_ley said on 31 Jan 2008 at 7:43 pm

    Re, “I’ll look for an Old Soldier now when I go.” If you go there looking for an old soldier, you will probably find a lot of us. If I make it over (no promises), I’ll identify myself as “the” Old soldier.

  78. Vigilant1 said on 1 Feb 2008 at 8:39 am:
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    Patty on 31 Jan 2008 at 10:36 pm:

    GO PATRIOTS!

  79. Lafayette said on 1 Feb 2008 at 8:43 am:
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    This tidbit is from the article below on Manassas City schools.

    That’s because enrollment in the English for Speakers of Other Languages program have spiked, too, reaching nearly 28 percent of the city’s student population in fiscal 2008, recently released school budget figures indicate. By comparison, Fairfax County and Prince William County schools provide ESOL services to 13 and 14 percent of students, respectively. Loudoun County, meanwhile, has 8 percent of its students in ESOL
    http://www.manassasjm.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=Common%2FMGArticle%2FPrintVersion&c=MGArticle&cid=1173354443128&image=mjm80×60.gif&oasDN=manassasjm.com

  80. Vigilant1 said on 1 Feb 2008 at 8:46 am:
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    Lafayette said on 31 Jan 2008 at 10:23 pm:
    Vigilant1,
    I just did a dark “field trip” of nearby Sudley streets.

    I noticed that the sign had been moved to across the street. Maybe someone complained that they didn’t need another “obsticle” to go around when cutting the grass (fire hydrant, stop sign and NW sign.) lol

    There have been two vehicles (car and p/u truck) in front of that house that haven’t moved in weeks. I notice that today the car that had the guy with the foldup mattress last week is back. Keeping eye out as to what is going on there. May be nothing, but then again……..

    Still nothing re who is running the NW (if anyone.)

  81. Loudoun said on 1 Feb 2008 at 8:53 am:
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    I have been in the office at Sudley Elementary three times in the past week. Each time there was a Latino mother (needing the use of an interpreter) transferring her children to Manassas City schools.

    Beware Manassas City Resident, they are coming your way!

  82. Lafayette said on 1 Feb 2008 at 9:15 am:
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    Vigilant1,
    I’m going put those two blocks on my regular “loop”. There is something going on there. Is that damn FOR RENT sign still in the basement window?
    Maybe, we are the NW and haven’t be duputized yet.lol
    ********
    Loudoun,
    That’s right some of our “neighbors” have and are still moving to the city. 08 Woodstock moved to the city, and yet there kids are still attending Sudley. I wonder if the women you saw were one of the several moms that vacated that house before the bank took it.
    Also, The Queen’s 8th grade English class at SMS is on their fourth teacher this year! What the hell. Well, Mrs. Davenport better stay to see the year out. She’s had the first teacher until Novemeber, the second teacher was there the month of Novemeber/December, and then Mr. G.(perm. sub that had a permanent position until they high jacked his science lab to make room for Manes Pierre) the month of January.
    Any other parents out there in this English class or that’s on their fourth teacher this year?

  83. Alexandrianagainstillegals said on 1 Feb 2008 at 9:43 am:
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    Reagan’s Son ON the subject of John McCain
    http://www.reagan.com/column.cfm?id=52

    John McCain Hates Me
    By Michael Reagan January 31, 2008

    Until last night, when I watched the Republican debate, I had no idea how much John McCain dislikes me and just about everybody else but Rudy Giuliani, who if you believe The New York Times is a pretty good hater himself.

    As I watched McCain and Governor Romney go at it during the debate at the Reagan Library I was struck by the huge gap that separates McCain — whose contempt for his fellow humans is patently obvious — and my dad, Ronald Reagan, who had nothing but the deepest affection and respect for the American people.

    The feeling is mutual between McCain and me. I don’t like the way he treats people. You get the impression that he thinks everybody is beneath him. He seems to be saying, “I was a war hero, and you had damn well better treat me as your superior.”

    He has contempt for conservatives who he thinks can be duped into thinking he’s one of them, despite such blatantly anti-conservative actions as his support for amnesty for illegal immigrants, his opposition to the Bush tax cuts which got the economy rolling again, and his campaign finance bill which skewed the political process and attacked free speech.

    I am appalled by his contempt for the intelligence of his listeners when he flat-out lies and expects them to believe what he says even when the truth is staring them in the face.

    A prime example cited by columnist Robert Novak was McCain’s denial that he had privately suggested that Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito was too conservative, insisting that he recalled saying no such thing, adding that Alito was a “magnificent” choice.

    “In fact,” wrote Novak, “multiple sources confirm that the senator made negative comments about Alito nine months ago.”

    In last night’s debate, McCain stubbornly defended his charge, false on the face of it, that Romney wanted a deadline for withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq.

    “I have never, ever supported a specific timetable” for withdrawing troops, Romney said, adding that McCain’s accusation on the eve of Tuesday’s primary “sort of falls into the dirty tricks that I think Ronald Reagan would have found reprehensible.”

    What Romney said last April, was merely that U.S. and Iraqi leaders “have to have a series of timetables and milestones that they speak about” in private, which in no way suggests he was in any sense talking about troop withdrawals.

    Despite the evidence, McCain charged that “of course he said he wanted a timetable” for a withdrawal, even though he had never said any such thing. It was McCain daring to ask us if we wanted to believe our lying eyes or his demonstrably false allegation.

    McCain must think conservatives are dumb enough to allow him to get away with claiming he’s one of them. This is from a man who opposed drilling for oil in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge in Alaska and who twice voted against President Bush’s tax cuts and sponsored the campaign-finance reform legislation that Romney claimed “took a whack at the First Amendment.”

    In John McCain’s eyes, conservatives are the Viet Cong of this generation and he treats us as such. It’s either his way or no way.

    I despise his habit of talking down to us, like a wise father to an idiot son. He’s just at a loss to understand why everybody doesn’t grovel at his feet and accept his every word as wisdom handed down from his lofty perch atop Mt. Olympus.

    I can’t help it. I know in my heart he hates me, and every conservative. If he gets the nomination the only way he could win against Hillary or Barack Obama would be to be part of a McCain-Limbaugh ticket.

  84. MdMan said on 1 Feb 2008 at 9:54 am:
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    OV - I mean you are the “omega” voice.

  85. josh said on 1 Feb 2008 at 10:01 am:
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    is that wacko manes pierre allowed to teach? I wouldnt want my kids a football field away from him, let alone in the classroom. That guy could trip offline at any time.

  86. Lafayette said on 1 Feb 2008 at 10:05 am:
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    josh,
    He only lasted a year and that was 2006-2007, and I think he may have be escorted off property by one of “Charlies Angels”.
    My daughter said he was a very strange man, and always made statements about his attire.

  87. manassascityresident said on 1 Feb 2008 at 10:05 am:
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    Ducky said on 1 Feb 2008 at 7:28 am:
    “I am very happy to see that Greg is advertising for John McCain! John McCain would make a fine president!”

    Absolutely, Ducky! If you want amnesty, then he’s your man!

  88. manassascityresident said on 1 Feb 2008 at 10:07 am:
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    Loudoun said on 1 Feb 2008 at 8:53 am:
    “Beware Manassas City Resident, they are coming your way!”

    Thanks for the warning.

  89. One Voice said on 1 Feb 2008 at 10:23 am:
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    MDMan - over my head, I guess. It has been pointed out that I am a very literal person, so patience and understanding is requested… :)

  90. Krusty said on 1 Feb 2008 at 10:35 am:
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    I think Michael Reagan has a deepseated problem. Aside from that:

    Now we have McCain, Romney, Obama, and Clinton. One thing is certain: ONE of these four WILL be president of the United States of America.

    Does anybody feel like I do that there’s something wrong with a system that, in my opinion, repels truly sharp, intelligent people to run for president due to the length and the cost of the procedure? And it’s not only the money. The candidates’ families suffer; stuff that happened 20-30 years ago is dug up; every word is turned and spun and can be interpreted any which way. They met somebody 15 years who at the time was an nice, honest guy. He later gets into trouble for some reason, and, WHAM, that is held against the candidate.

    I don’t have any idea how the system can be changed. Imagine all the handlers who’d be without “work”! The television companies! Speech writers! Printing plants! On and on….

  91. TDB said on 1 Feb 2008 at 10:46 am:
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    Minorities

    We need to show more sympathy for these people.
    * They travel miles in the heat.
    * They risk their lives crossing a border.
    * They don’t get paid enough wages.
    * They do jobs that others won’t do or are afraid to do.
    * They live in crowded conditions among a people
    who speak a different language.
    * They rarely see their families,
    and they face adversity all day every day.

    I’m not talking about illegal Mexicans;
    I’m talking about our troops!
    Doesn’t it seem strange that many Democrats and Republicans are willing to lavish all kinds of social benefits on illegals, but don’t support our troops and are now threatening to defund them?

  92. 999 said on 1 Feb 2008 at 11:01 am:
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    Alexandrianagainstillegals said on 1 Feb 2008 at 9:43 am:
    Reagan’s Son ON the subject of John McCain
    http://www.reagan.com/column.cfm?id=52

    John McCain Hates Me
    By Michael Reagan January 31, 2008

    The same statements were made on CNN (Wolfe Blitzer) last night. People who watched the debate said McCain is a person full of hate and dislike for his fellow man. I personally believe he has a dark side to his personality. As much as I would hate to see Clinton or Obama in the office, I will not give my vote to McCain. Amnesty would be guaranteed for all illegls if he won. Ham Sandwich would be a better candidate.

  93. Krusty said on 1 Feb 2008 at 11:09 am:
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    TDB - I say, bring them all back home so they can take over the jobs that won’t be done after we put all the illegals on the bus south. But pay them well and “lavish all kinds of social benefits” on them all. They definitely deserve no less. I sincerely mean that.

    Of course, the US troups weren’t exactly invited into Iraq, as I remember (illegal immigrants, and armed toboot), blasting the capital city into smithereens in order to gain entry. At least, that hasn’t happened here. The ones who tried to destroy Washington, didn’t come from Mexico or Central America or Iraq but from our not yet smoked-out enemies in the mountains between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

    After writing this (slightly sarcastic) I want to say that I feel for our military. They have an enorm task and should be given all the support we can muster. And their families back home need more support. Those who come home with broken bodies and souls should be first in line for quality assistance. My god, how helpless I feel!

  94. starryflights said on 1 Feb 2008 at 11:48 am:
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    Another house that I drive by frequently (on Mapledale Ave in Dale City) may have been abandoned. There is a huge pile of trash that has been out on the curb for over a week now, including (I believe) at least 3 mattresses.

  95. starryflights said on 1 Feb 2008 at 11:49 am:
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    I should add that NO trash can is being used with this pile of trash.

  96. BattleCat said on 1 Feb 2008 at 1:49 pm:
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    So….
    The terrorists are strapping explosives to mentally handicapped women, sending them to Pet Marts, and blowing them up remotely.

    That’s cold.

  97. MdMan said on 1 Feb 2008 at 3:42 pm:
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    OV - I’m referring to the Omega Wolf which is the submissive member of the pack. It’s not important, I wrote my original post last night after watching the Dems debate and I felt like driving nails into my ears so I lashed out a little at your blender comment which by the way, was terrific comic releif. No worries…

  98. BattleCat said on 1 Feb 2008 at 4:35 pm:
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    MdMan,
    I watched both debates. Now I dislike all of the candidates. I like Romney, but it doesn’t seem to matter anymore. When that woman opens her mouth on illegal immigration, I swear I could just scream at the TV. You’re going to think I joking, but trust me….watch American Idol, it’s less stressful than those debates.

  99. starryflights said on 1 Feb 2008 at 4:48 pm:
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    I don’t like any of them, though I do agree that Romney is the lesser of all the evils on display. If McCain gets the R. Ticket, I will be writing in my vote.

  100. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 1 Feb 2008 at 5:04 pm:
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    starryflights said on 1 Feb 2008 at 4:48 pm:

    I agree. Has Paul dropped out yet?

  101. Anon said on 1 Feb 2008 at 5:06 pm:
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    My vote is still going to Ron Paul.

  102. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 1 Feb 2008 at 5:14 pm:
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    BattleCat said on 1 Feb 2008 at 4:35 pm

    When she opens her mouth about anything I want to pull my ears off of my head.

  103. Lafayette said on 1 Feb 2008 at 5:26 pm:
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    I saw 6 Ron Paul signs along the PW Pkwy today while out and about. I took a “field trip” to the other end. I drove my some pretty nasty houses. One had almost the entire front yard paved on Carter Ln. off of Hylton Ave. I saw house with a stove, another with a fridge, parking on the gras, and piles of trash on the curb and still had trash bags on the porch.
    http://outdoors.webshots.com/album/561184047yuacNi?start=48

    I went by the infamous 7-11 at Rt & Pkwy. There were not any day laborers lurking in the woods and there are now no trespassing signs too.
    There weren’t any at the Coverstone 7-11 this afternoon either.
    http://community.webshots.com/album/561319433CfhWLl?start=36
    Take a look for yourselves, and as always ENJOY!!!

  104. starryflights said on 1 Feb 2008 at 5:30 pm:
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    I like some of what Ron Paul has to say, but I don’t think he would make a good President.

  105. One Voice said on 1 Feb 2008 at 5:55 pm:
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    MdMan
    Oh, I was not worried, just confused. I understand the need to lash out and I can take it. :)

    By the way, submissive would not describe me at all!!!!

  106. es_la_ley said on 1 Feb 2008 at 6:24 pm:
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    starryflights : “I don’t like any of them, though I do agree that Romney is the lesser of all the evils on display. If McCain gets the R. Ticket, I will be writing in my vote.”

    Pretty much my sentiments too at this point. I won’t be voting FOR someone. I’ll be voting AGAINST someone. And I hate that.

  107. 999 said on 1 Feb 2008 at 6:43 pm:
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    starryflights said on 1 Feb 2008 at 11:49 am:
    I should add that NO trash can is being used with this pile of trash.

    They don’t use trash cans as they would have to pay for the service. They use their little white plastic bags from the stores and pile them up at the curb. Drive through Liberia/Lomond Dr. in Manassas/PWCand see what I mean.

  108. starryflights said on 1 Feb 2008 at 11:01 pm:
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    The more I think about this coming Presidential Election, the more I am wondering if it comes down to Clinton or McCain whether I just might vote for Clinton (instead of wasting my vote on a write in) as a show of how extremely disappointed I would be that the Republicans chose McCain and never supported Tancredo. I admire and respect our war heroes and POWs, but I don’t want it continually thrown in my face as a reason to vote for someone. McCain, his stand on giving amnesty to illegal aliens and that smug smirk of his can take a hike to Mexico and stay there for the rest of his life. I really can not stand this guy.

  109. BattleCat said on 1 Feb 2008 at 11:57 pm:
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    What Juan McAmnesty needs to understand is that “War Hero” and “Good President” have nothing to do with each other. One need look no further than the presidency of U.S. Grant to prove the point. My guess is it will be McCain vs. Clinton (maybe Obama?) Either Dem will easily hand McCain his behind (that wouldn’t even be close). Oddly enough, I think the Dems have the right idea when it comes to smacking the snot out of businesses that hire illegal immigrants. Hit businesses hard, I mean make it hurt, and the jobs will dry up, and many will go home. The republicans consistently prove their are completely enslaved to corporate greed, and will only pay lip service to illegal immigration. The problem I see with the Dems is they see millions of illegal immigrants as millions of votes, so I don’t see any of them having the integrity to do anything about it either. The media will take care of (destroy) anyone with integrity, so we’re left with Clinton, Obama, and McCain. I’m depressed now, might as well go to bed :)

  110. manassascityresident said on 2 Feb 2008 at 8:46 am:
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    BattleCat said on 1 Feb 2008 at 11:57 pm:
    “What Juan McAmnesty needs to understand is that “War Hero” and “Good President” have nothing to do with each other.”

    Amen to that!

  111. 999 said on 2 Feb 2008 at 11:50 am:
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    manassascityresident said on 2 Feb 2008 at 8:46 am:
    BattleCat said on 1 Feb 2008 at 11:57 pm:
    “What Juan McAmnesty needs to understand is that “War Hero” and “Good President” have nothing to do with each other.”

    Amen to that!

    Just what did McCain do to qualify himself as a “War Hero.” He spent time in a POW camp as did thousands of other military personnel. What unique thing did he do to get the title? Curious!

  112. 999 said on 2 Feb 2008 at 11:54 am:
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    Article from 2/2/08 MJM
    They only come here to work and care for their families.

    http://www.manassasjm.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=MJM/MGArticle/WPN_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173354454839&path=

  113. starryflights said on 2 Feb 2008 at 11:58 am:
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    Well, I have had my laugh for the day. I just saw a Juan McCain commercial on TV and he again threw his military service in my face and ended his AD by stating that he was a TRUE CONSERVATIVE. He must think we are STUPID!

  114. 999 said on 2 Feb 2008 at 11:58 am:
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    Article from 2/2/08 MJM
    The complete opposite from the bums in mob beating article.
    GOD BLESS HIM AND HIS FAMILY!

    http://www.manassasjm.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=MJM/MGArticle/WPN_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173354455840&path=

  115. starryflights said on 2 Feb 2008 at 12:00 pm:
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    999, they are being held without bond. Could they be illegal and the newspaper failed to tell us?

  116. starryflights said on 2 Feb 2008 at 12:02 pm:
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    Juan McCain is a War Hero because he says so…every chance he gets.

  117. 999 said on 2 Feb 2008 at 12:07 pm:
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    starryflights said on 2 Feb 2008 at 12:00 pm:
    999, they are being held without bond. Could they be illegal and the newspaper failed to tell us?

    That seems to be true. If they were not illegal, wouldn’t they be offered to post bail?

  118. 999 said on 2 Feb 2008 at 12:12 pm:
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    Read how Juan McCain’s own state feels about him.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/01/AR2008020103260_pf.html

  119. manassascityresident said on 2 Feb 2008 at 12:13 pm:
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    starryflights said on 2 Feb 2008 at 12:02 pm:
    “Juan McCain is a War Hero because he says so…every chance he gets.”

    You beat me to it! That should answer your question, 999.

  120. 999 said on 2 Feb 2008 at 12:23 pm:
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    manassascityresident said on 2 Feb 2008 at 12:13 pm:
    That should answer your question

    Thanks. I have never seen or heard of anything that made him stand above his peers in the military other than the fact he was a POW. Maybe his father being an Admiral gave him a “special” place to be called a hero.

  121. starryflights said on 2 Feb 2008 at 12:24 pm:
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    I still don’t understand how McCain is getting all his votes. Who ARE these people that are voting for him? (shaking my head in disbelief)

  122. manassascityresident said on 2 Feb 2008 at 12:30 pm:
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    Did you all see Ann Coulter on FOX News yesterday? She said that she’d rather vote for Billery than McCain. He is NO CONSERVATIVE, and she is asking herself (as many are) the same question. I don’t get it either, Starryflights.

  123. Lafayette said on 2 Feb 2008 at 1:52 pm:
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    mcr & starryflights,
    I heard her say that Thursday on Hannity & Colmes too.
    Pretty sad state of affairs I think for Ann Coulter to be making a statement like that. Yikes!

  124. One Voice said on 2 Feb 2008 at 2:09 pm:
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    Well, now she has proven what an idiot she has always been - out loud and by her own hand.

    I’ve been affliated/registerd with the Democratic party for years (and yes, will die one) and never had an incliniation to vote for them. Never. So, where is she coming from? Needs to make the news or something?

    OH BROTHER

  125. starryflights said on 2 Feb 2008 at 2:17 pm:
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    Ann Colter is saying she will vote for Clinton because Clinton at least is following her Party lines. Juan McCain is a false Rep. Candidate. He is more in line with Clinton than his own Party. I would NEVER..NEVER…NEVER vote for McCain!

  126. One Voice said on 2 Feb 2008 at 2:28 pm:
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    Good, you can vote for Hiliary…..

  127. starryflights said on 2 Feb 2008 at 2:36 pm:
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    I just might.

  128. One Voice said on 2 Feb 2008 at 2:46 pm:
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    You made me LOL :)

    I really can’t. Have thought about the woman thing, thought about Iraq, thought about a lot of stuff. Just can’t.

    She waffles. McCain will tell someone to shove it. I need the latter more than the former.

  129. Krusty said on 2 Feb 2008 at 3:01 pm:
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    McCain become a “hero” because his plane got shot down. However, I have seen the place where he was held (Hanoi Hilton) and I must say that I admire anyone who survived that hell hole for years. Not all of them decided to run for political office, but I’m sure there are heros from that era in other fields.

    JFK said when asked by a little boy how he became a hero “It was absolutely involuntary. They sank my boat.” Yes, I have mentioned this before, but it needs repeating.

    I don’t think McCain is the right person to lead the country. As a matter of fact, I think most Americans suffer from electic dysfunction.

  130. v said on 2 Feb 2008 at 3:05 pm:
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    Interesting article on John “McNasty” McCain

    http://www.nndb.com/people/914/000023845/

  131. v said on 2 Feb 2008 at 3:21 pm:
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    Another interesting article on McCain from Vietnam Vets Against McCain

    http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/cin_mccain_lost_five_u.htm

  132. starryflights said on 2 Feb 2008 at 3:38 pm:
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    Wow…Juan McCain received 28 medals for 20 hours of combat. That seems pretty excessive. Born in Panama…didn’t know that.

  133. Anonymous said on 2 Feb 2008 at 3:50 pm:
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    The man who would be president. Ducky’s choice!

    http://www.vvof.org/mccain_hides.htm

  134. manassascityresident said on 2 Feb 2008 at 3:54 pm:
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    v said on 2 Feb 2008 at 3:21 pm:

    Thanks for posting the article - everyone should read it!

  135. Krusty said on 2 Feb 2008 at 4:00 pm:
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    vietnamveteransagainst…. I don’t believe much of what this group has to say. Jealousy, I believe, drives those guys.

    BTW, where are are military fellows on this blog who like to talk about their stints in the Philiphines and other sundry areas, and how they are, or were, willing to give their lives for the country? How do they feel about McCain? Would they have stood up under torture in a hell hole prison? Or doesn’t that have anything to do with McCain?

  136. Anonymous said on 2 Feb 2008 at 4:04 pm:
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    Juan McAmnesty

    http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/cin_mccain_drops_f.htm

  137. manassascityresident said on 2 Feb 2008 at 4:30 pm:
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    Krusty -
    You are missing the point. Did you bother to read the article, or just come to the “jealousy” conclusion just by reading the web link?
    Juan is claiming to be something he is not. And that is that he is a conservative, which clearly he is not. He is running solely on his POW status.
    I think you should read all of the articles listed above before you comment.
    As for the “military fellows” on this blog - MANY have served their country proudly. They talk to each other about their service because they have something in common, not because they are looking for a pat on the back or an “atta boy”.

  138. Johnson said on 2 Feb 2008 at 4:31 pm:
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    Krusty-
    I don’t like McCain, never did. Yes, he survived a hellish prisoner of war stint. How would I fare under torture? Been there, done that, upside down, on the water board, etc. Detached to SERE School in NC. All we know about McCain is what he tells us. We don’t know what he told his interrogators. I know that the only people who manage to not talk, die trying.
    He won’t get my vote because he advocates amnesty for illegal aliens, his arrogance (Bush-like in scope) and his hypocrisy. Real heroes don’t run for office based on the hero factor. Romney better talk the talk or I will vote for Obama.

  139. Mr. Anon said on 2 Feb 2008 at 5:50 pm:
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    All of this talk about protest voting is misguided. All you will accomplish is to give Hillary or Obama a larger percentage of the vote. Talk of a “mandate” will begin, and you will empower these bozos.

    The best protest is to not vote at all. Low voter turnout would be the best way to let the parties know we are unhappy with the choices given to us. I know that many people feel it is their duty to vote. I think it is my duty to vote my conscience, and I cannot in good conscience vote for McCain or either of these democrats.

  140. Krusty said on 2 Feb 2008 at 7:52 pm:
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    I agree with you all. I don’t want McCain! He rides his POW status like Guiliano (sp?) rode his 9/11. Only difference is that McC’s “event” happened much longer ago and should not be brought up time and time again. We sure do have some choices this time around. Alas!

  141. Old Soldier said on 2 Feb 2008 at 8:06 pm:
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    I saw a couple of comments wondering about McCain. I spent 1968-1971 in various parts of South-East Asia and watched a bit of his story play out in the press (although we had no idea what he went through until he was released). The following link is to an interview he gave to U.S. News & World Report in 1973 (shortly after he was released).

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1084711/posts

    I don’t plan to vote for the man. The threat of 100 more years in Iraq and his “closet liberal” views helped me make my decision (frankly, Hillary doesn’t look that bad these days). I do; however, salute his military service and honor his sacrifice. His refusal for early release when offered (because his captors found out who his father was) demonstrated the highest standards of conduct for a military man.

    I hold those who disparage his record and service right below an illegal immigrant.

  142. dolph said on 2 Feb 2008 at 8:49 pm:
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    I am not a McCain fan. However, I would never say he isn’t a war hero and I don’t think anyone here has the right to say that either. Just surviving the Hanoi Hilton makes him one in my eyes. I will never forget seeing those POWs get off the plane on TV. It was heartbreaking, yet filled my heart with pride.

    Does being a POW make one presidential material? Probably not. I just do not like hearing that he isn’t a war hero. (and I have no intention of voting for him) Suggestion: Stick to relevant issues.

  143. manassascityresident said on 2 Feb 2008 at 10:10 pm:
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    If discussing the candidates in the upcoming election isn’t a relevant issue, than what pray tell is? This is an “open thread” isn’t it? Maybe I missed something.

  144. dolph said on 2 Feb 2008 at 10:56 pm:
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    MCR,

    I said nothing about not discussing candidates. I said I didn’t like people saying that McCain is not a war hero. I really don’t think anyone here is in the position to make that claim.

    However, anyone is entitled to make a determination about who should be president based on a candidate’s position and past performance on issues.

  145. manassascityresident said on 2 Feb 2008 at 11:04 pm:
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    Dolph -
    Did you read the articles posted above? Just curious. If not, you really should.
    We really don’t need to talk about whether or not he’s a war hero - he pretty much takes care of that all by himself…..on a pretty regular basis.

  146. One Voice said on 3 Feb 2008 at 9:18 am:
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    So today’s ad is “help support health clinics providing critical aid to evacuees”.

    So much for e-verify when it comes to taking money. This is is a hoot.

  147. Johnson said on 3 Feb 2008 at 10:41 am:
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    http://mail.lycos.com/lycos/Index.lycos?right=%2Flycos%2Fmail%2FViewMail.lycos%3FMSGID%3D0000000000000YK%26FOLDER%3DInbox

    Hope it works. Got this from a buddy of mine in Tayhas(Aztlan to you Gringos).

  148. Lafayette said on 3 Feb 2008 at 10:45 am:
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    Johnson,
    I got a sign in page for Lycos email. Hmm.

  149. Mr. Anon said on 3 Feb 2008 at 10:48 am:
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    Me too.

  150. Johnson said on 3 Feb 2008 at 10:49 am:
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    OOPS! Let’s try that again…apologies if any tender sensibilities were trod upon.
    http://mail.lycos.com/lycos/Index.lycos?right=%2Flycos%2Fmail%2FViewMail.lycos%3FMSGID%3D0000000000000YL%26FOLDER%3DInbox

  151. dolph said on 3 Feb 2008 at 10:49 am:
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    MCR, Yea, and the fact that it was Vietnam Veterans Against McCain put me off. I would have to have those charges documented before I believed them. However, I have no intensions of voting for McCain so I wouldn’t go to the trouble of confirming or denying the accusations.

    I just don’t like swiftboating people. I don’t think that one’s vietnam (or any other war) experiences qualify a person for public office but it enhances that persons desirability. We honor vets. We honor veterans of war more than those who weren’t in the service during war time, although perhaps not consciously. Those who suffered such as a POW or lost limbs are seen in an especially good light.

    While I will probably never vote for McCain for many other reasons, I will never diss him over his service to his country or his time he spent as a POW. He simply does not deserve that.

  152. Lafayette said on 3 Feb 2008 at 10:52 am:
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    Johnson,
    No tender sensibilities here!
    Sorry, I got the same thing again. Is this from recent news article?

  153. Anonymous said on 3 Feb 2008 at 11:08 am:
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    Krusty said on 2 Feb 2008 at 7:52 pm:
    I agree with you all. I don’t want McCain! He rides his POW status like Guiliano (sp?) rode his 9/11. Only difference is that McC’s “event” happened much longer ago and should not be brought up time and time again. We sure do have some choices this time around. Alas!

    …….and three out of the four (Clinton, Obama and McCain) choices want total amnesty for illegal aliens.

  154. 999 said on 3 Feb 2008 at 12:12 pm:
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    …..and for those who may have forgotten…..

    http://www.consortiumnews.com/2000/012900b.html

  155. Lafayette said on 3 Feb 2008 at 12:33 pm:
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    Patty,
    Did you know that 04 Woodstock is up for auction soon?
    **
    We’ve now got TEN vacant houses out of 30. It’s official now a THIRD of my block are vacant houses. My next door neighbors vacated in the middle of the night. They were renters, and I’m hoping it’s just that their lease was up and not another foreclosure.

  156. starryflights said on 3 Feb 2008 at 1:56 pm:
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    Lafayette, this is great news, if illegals are the ones leaving. Let us hope that we can clean up our country and show legal immigrants and U.S. Citizens that Prince William County is a nice place to live and they will come and take advantage of the lower housing prices.

  157. Patty said on 3 Feb 2008 at 4:05 pm:
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    Lafayette,

    04 had wire hand low yesterday. I saw the white sign. 08 has a different realtor. Lots of activity. 03 KG is not looking too good. :(

  158. Patty said on 3 Feb 2008 at 4:06 pm:
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    Lafayette,

    My typing skills stink today. Should be “hang low” instead of hand low. Sorry.

  159. Lafayette said on 3 Feb 2008 at 6:43 pm:
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    999,
    Thanks for posting that article. I sure hope many read it. This is very important given our current number foreclosure, and talk of bail outs. These greedy banks made these sorry a$$ loans and should have to suffer the consequences. IMHO

  160. dolph said on 3 Feb 2008 at 6:49 pm:
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    Lafayette,

    I don’t feel sorry for them in the least. However, their behavior is affecting the entire stock market. I don’t understand it well enough to say much more than other, other than the financials are affecting everything else.

    I would also like to push those locally who sold to people who really couldn’t qualify. To me, it was just dishonest. I feel the borrowers are victims.

  161. One Voice said on 3 Feb 2008 at 7:22 pm:
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    I think it was pure greed on both sides. That’s why to get out of it both should pay hefty fines. No free rides - but it would beat more bankrupcies.

  162. dolph said on 3 Feb 2008 at 7:45 pm:
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    I understand families wanting the American dream….especially if some schlock realtor convinced you that you could afford this house if you….fill in the blanks. Some of those guys are real hard sell. Rents were also getting steeper and steeper. I expect a lot of people thought they were going to save some money buy buying a house and taking in a room mate or 2.

    The realtors and lending institutions knew exactly what they were doing. Shame on them.

  163. Lafayette said on 3 Feb 2008 at 8:02 pm:
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    Greed was everywhere during the boom. I had one real eastate agent Sr. Barrientos tell me most of these folks NEVER even saw the houses they bought until after the settlement. This is foolish.

  164. One Voice said on 3 Feb 2008 at 8:34 pm:
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    That is what happens when people with day to day mentalities buy homes. People should simply recognize their limitations and work to change them. Not hope that someone can change them for them by giving them something.

  165. CitizenofManassas said on 3 Feb 2008 at 10:15 pm:
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    Dolph,

    Did those Realtors hold a gun to the heads of those people?

    I may go into a car dealership and have a guy try and sell me a car, which is his job, but it is my responsibility to take the time and think if I can afford it.

    Or, put it another way….. Burger King attempts to sway me to buy from them, but it still takes an effort on my part to go the local BK lounge and buy from them. Illegals abused the system, and did not care what they were doing, because they realized they could just walk away without any personal responsibility, just like they did when they broke into the Country.

  166. Patty said on 3 Feb 2008 at 10:52 pm:
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    CitizenofManassas,

    Yes, with no money down they had nothing to lose. Just a place to stay until they got kicked out. It explains why these houses are run down. They never put one penny in upkeep. All their extra money went towards cars, tvs, anything they could take with them.

  167. Patty said on 3 Feb 2008 at 11:00 pm:
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    Billyboy,

    I’m sure you know that the Giants beat the Patriots. A NFC east team won. At least I have the satisfaction of knowing the Redskins beat the Giants. I guess we’ll find out what Dan Snyder will do this week. I wish Joe Gibbs owned the team.

    I hope you are feeling better. I miss your comments.

    Go Redskins! I hope they beat the Giants twice next year.

  168. dolph said on 3 Feb 2008 at 11:34 pm:
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    COM,

    I was speaking nationally. I was not talking about illegals. If you look at the numbers of foreclosures around the country, they certainly are not limited to illegal aliens. In fact, I am not even going to say the ones here are were owned by illegal aliens. I do not know.

    Many people nationally were tricked and lied to. Some were given information that just was not accurate. Other folks had their circumstances change.

  169. Loudoun said on 4 Feb 2008 at 7:43 am:
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    Dolph,

    If you review the foreclosure listings in the local papers, the vast majority of the foreclosures are of owners with Hispanic names. In the foreclosures on my street and surrounding streets, I can attest that each house was owned by Latinos and the houses were overcrowded. To me this suggests that the homes were owned by illegal aliens - having no respect for our zoning laws. Further, the homes were abandoned - with the occupants moving out under the cover of darkness. I witnessed the moveouts of the houses on both sides of me and across the street from me.

  170. 999 said on 4 Feb 2008 at 8:30 am:
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    Loudoun said on 4 Feb 2008 at 7:43 am:
    Dolph,

    If you review the foreclosure listings in the local papers, the vast majority of the foreclosures are of owners with Hispanic names.

    Further, the homes were abandoned - with the occupants moving out under the cover of darkness.

    Don’t forget that proably most everything inside the houses that was not fully secured was also removed i.e. light fixtures, appliances, curtains and rods, bilinds and the list goes on. One house in Sudley occupied by Latinos had the front and rear doors removed as well at the items cited above. Look around the neighborhoods at the houses that have been abandoned and under foreclosure with no curtains/blinds and check the reality signs. Houses formerly occupied by Latinos and being marketed by Latino real estate “agents.”

  171. 999 said on 4 Feb 2008 at 8:38 am:
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    dolph said on 3 Feb 2008 at 11:34 pm:
    Many people nationally were tricked and lied to. Some were given information that just was not accurate. Other folks had their circumstances change.

    Many also moved into houses with “no money down, interest only loans” knowing full well that after one year of making NO payments and overcrowding these houses and collecting “RENT” from their “RELATIVES” that they were going to “bail out” with nothing lost. Some walked away because they owed far more that the house was worth and wasn’t worth (in their opinion) putting on the market. It was far easier to just leave.

  172. Lafayette said on 4 Feb 2008 at 8:46 am:
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    I saw the house across the street stripped of damn near everything but the kitchen. Yes, most foreclosures are Latino names, but there are quite of few “tradidtional” American, African, and other nationalities too. The Latino community was in cahoots from start to finish with the sales of houses. The real estate agent, title company, mortgage broker, settlement companies usually have “family ties”. People, were trusting of what they were told. This goes for speakers of all languages. Everyone was GREEDY and this includes folks wanting to buy these house during the boom writing contracts well over the asking price. Everyone wanted a piece of the pie. As for the Latino community they were never told that the property value could decrease. Then as for the other people they just wanted to own their own home and got in on the action too. The lenders that made these sub-prime, adjustable rate mortgages are mostly to blame.
    I would like to say I seriously doubt all of these house owned by Latinos now being foreclosed were all illegals(some were). I do believe there were several Latino slum lords and business owners that were more than happy to get high rent from multiple occupants and then when the interest rate adjusted and principal had to start being paid on the mortgages the payment were no longer being made and then foreclosure will happen.

  173. dolph said on 4 Feb 2008 at 10:08 am:
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    Nationally Nationally Nationally. I don’t know how to make you all hear me. Life goes past Manassas.

    In this area, I agree. Many of the foreclosures are people with Hispanic last names. I don’t know the status of those with foreclosures and neither does anyone else.

    Nationally, that is not the case, however. People from all ethnicities have had foreclosures.

  174. dolph said on 4 Feb 2008 at 10:41 am:
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    I do not fault people who just want to own a house as long as they are doing what they think is legal. I have had several slick reators over the years attempt to convince me that I could own far beyond my means. I know someone else that was sold a condo. The problem? The buyer had a great dane. Maximum weight for a dog was 25 pounds. She had to turn around and sell. She had been told the dog would be fine, by her realtor.

    I will always blame the person making money off the deal rather than the home buyer. Most people want the American dream and we are not all financial experts.

  175. 999 said on 4 Feb 2008 at 10:46 am:
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    dolph said on 4 Feb 2008 at 10:08 am:
    Nationally Nationally Nationally.

    http://www.voiceofsandiego.org/articles/2007/04/18/housing/932foreclosure041307.txt

  176. 999 said on 4 Feb 2008 at 10:47 am:
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    California Mortgage Comparisons

    50 percent all Latinos who purchased a home in 2005 received a subprime loan vs. 17 percent for white borrowers
    27 percent of all Latinos who refinanced a home in 2005 received a subprime loan vs. 13 percent for white borrowers
    Of 84,617 subprime loans to Latinos, 16,923 will foreclose

    Source: Center for Responsible Lending

  177. dolph said on 4 Feb 2008 at 10:57 am:
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    999

    You know, I am not sure of your point.

    Were I just dropping by the blog to see what it was all about, I KNOW what I would assume, just from reading.

  178. Anon said on 4 Feb 2008 at 11:14 am:
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    Wow, Bush’s budget is a the last nail in the coffin for the future of our children. They have little hope of prosperity now.

    Little hope of security either, our borders are still open, people coming across, our ports are open and the world hates us more than they did 8 years ago.

    And this new budget just sticks it to us.

    F U Bush.

  179. Lafayette said on 4 Feb 2008 at 11:24 am:
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    Vigilant1
    Did you see the new markings on Strasburg just before Copeland going towards SM? It looks like a new NW sign might be going up.

  180. 999 said on 4 Feb 2008 at 11:43 am:
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    Interesting facts

    http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2008/01/state_of_latinos.html

  181. 999 said on 4 Feb 2008 at 11:48 am:
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    dolph said on 4 Feb 2008 at 10:57 am:
    999
    You know, I am not sure of your point.

    I am just pointing out that Latinos and Blacks are the ones hardest hit by the predatory lenders and sub-prime mortgages.

    That problem is NATIONALY.

  182. CitizenofManassas said on 4 Feb 2008 at 12:04 pm:
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    Dolph,

    Why do you not blame stupid people for this mess? Again, just because home ownership is possible does not mean a person should jump into it without doing a bit of research.

    It is called personal responsibility, and I have no sympathy for people who did not do their home work.

  183. One Voice said on 4 Feb 2008 at 12:28 pm:
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    Dolph

    Good advice in that last post “You just can’t fix stupid”.

    I think that was Bill Parcells….. :)

  184. dolph said on 4 Feb 2008 at 12:45 pm:
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    COM,

    The playing field is not level. When you go to buy a house, you should be able to trust your realtor. Operative word here, SHOULD. Same with your lender.

    If you go to have your taxes done, you count on the professional to know the rules, laws, ropes in general. Same if you go to settle something legally. You hire a lawyer. You get sick, you hired a doctor.

    I do not know all the ins and outs of real estate and buying and selling a home. That is why I would pay the 6% to have my house sold professionally.

    I have always thought cheating people to make an easy buck was wrong and that those it happened to were called victims.

  185. Anonymous said on 4 Feb 2008 at 3:36 pm:
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    I think Dolph and One Voice should begin their own blog!

  186. Anonymous said on 4 Feb 2008 at 3:39 pm:
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    Anonymous said on 4 Feb 2008 at 3:36 pm:
    I think Dolph and One Voice should begin their own blog!

    It appears they HAVE.

  187. ANON86 said on 4 Feb 2008 at 3:55 pm:
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    Anonymous said on 4 Feb 2008 at 3:39 pm:
    Anonymous said on 4 Feb 2008 at 3:36 pm:
    I think Dolph and One Voice should begin their own blog!

    It appears they HAVE.

    Do tell…Where’s that hot spot?

  188. Vigilant1 said on 4 Feb 2008 at 3:55 pm:
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    Lafayette said on 4 Feb 2008 at 11:24 am:
    Vigilant1
    Did you see the new markings on Strasburg just before Copeland going towards SM? It looks like a new NW sign might be going up.

    Haven’t been down that way lately. Will check it out. Signs by themselves are not going to do the job. Do you know who has requested these signs be put up and is there any organized group that patrols?

  189. CitizenofManassas said on 4 Feb 2008 at 4:14 pm:
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    Dolph,

    When you have someone do you taxes, and you sign the return, it notes that you are responsible for the return to be correct. Yes, one would like to assume every business is ethical and would never cheat customers, but reality says otherwise. That is why one must be educated and sensible when it appears they are getting a deal too good to be true.

    You pay a Realtor to help you find and gain access to a wide range of homes, but in the end, it is your decision on what house to buy. All the paper work that goes with a mortgage is there for a reason, and which is also the reason that it needs to be read by the buyer before signing.

  190. Lafayette said on 4 Feb 2008 at 4:15 pm:
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    Vigilant1,
    I’m glad to see you’ve posted. Signs alone aren’t worth the metal they are printed on. I’ve just got done leaving a message with the Sgt. incharge of the NW (Crime Prevention Unit?). I had to leave a voicemail, and I hope to hear back soon. When we are ready. Will YOU be ready to join us?

  191. dolph said on 4 Feb 2008 at 4:53 pm:
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    COM,

    Yes, and people lose law suits, go to jail, etc etc. People go to the doctor. Some get well, some die. There are no guarantees. So here’s the bottom line: you think people are getting what they deserve and I feel sorry if they were cheated. Its really simply an opinion. No right and wrong.
    ————————————————————————–
    And to the anonymous @3:36,

    Who is to say we haven’t? Would you like an invitation? One Voice, aka Una Voce is the host with the most.

    contact covenchix@yahoo.com

    —————————————————————————

  192. Anonymous said on 4 Feb 2008 at 5:19 pm:
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    Lafayette said on 4 Feb 2008 at 11:24 am:
    Vigilant1
    Did you see the new markings on Strasburg just before Copeland going towards SM? It looks like a new NW sign might be going up.

    By the looks of it, it will be part of the stop sign. lol

  193. West Gate Witch said on 4 Feb 2008 at 5:34 pm:
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    covenchix, eh?
    Looks like a place for me to fly by. :)

  194. CitizenofManassas said on 4 Feb 2008 at 6:23 pm:
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    Dolph,

    Then why can’t you admit there are stupid people and people who attempted to get ahead by playing with fire, and no want to blame someone else for their problems.

    Do you believe in personal responsibility?

  195. dolph said on 4 Feb 2008 at 6:56 pm:
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    COM,

    Absolutely I believe in personal responsbility. Why can’t you admit that there are financial preditors out there who cheated people who just wanted a part of the American dream.

    There are people are out there who just want the easy route, the crooks, and the ne’er do wells. There are also good and decent people who got scammed. And yes, there are stupid people. As One Voice has said, there probably is no cure for that and I expect they fall into both categories.

  196. One Voice said on 4 Feb 2008 at 7:15 pm:
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    Must every issue be a take this hill or die??? Yikes…. relax folks.

    Anon - Dolph and I disagree on a lot of things. Perhaps you don’t realize this because we are civil about it. That is an anomaly here, civil. Although, lately, I would say that has improved. Like neighbors or dorm mates folks that have been here a while have learned to simply get along or pass on a few comments that a few months ago would have resulted in a firestorm…..

    :)

  197. ettolrahc said on 4 Feb 2008 at 8:52 pm:
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    One Voice, people appear to more civil here because there is less diversity of opinion. So if you think that it is civil to happily rant on and on about illegals, you are right. Greg has blocked the appearance of posts from those of us who want to challenge comments like, “I wonder when is the breeding season of illegals” of a few days ago.

    Of course no one will see this post except me. I am leaving Dolph and Krusty to provide a different point of view.

  198. Lafayette said on 4 Feb 2008 at 9:59 pm:
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    ettolrahc said on 4 Feb 2008 at 8:52 pm:
    Wow, that’s as clever as Anonymous posting and signing as mom.
    Maybe, your comments and damn near calling very credible posters name near liars is what got you blocked. I don’t come here to fight with anyone. You exhausted my patience, and even admitted your surprise of my patience.

  199. Lafayette said on 4 Feb 2008 at 10:01 pm:
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    corr: The sentence should’ve read this.
    Maybe, your comments and damn near calling very credible posters here LIARS is what got you blocked.

  200. dolph said on 4 Feb 2008 at 10:04 pm:
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    I don’t see why anyone who presents themselves civilly would be blocked.

  201. Vigilant1 said on 4 Feb 2008 at 10:09 pm:
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    Lafayette said on 4 Feb 2008 at 9:59 pm:
    ettolrahc said on 4 Feb 2008 at 8:52 pm:
    Wow, that’s as clever as Anonymous posting and signing as mom.
    Maybe, your comments and damn near calling very credible posters name near liars is what got you blocked. I don’t come here to fight with anyone. You exhausted my patience, and even admitted your surprise of my patience.

    Laf, did you notice that the poster ettolrahc is Charlotte spelled backwards?

  202. Lafayette said on 4 Feb 2008 at 10:27 pm:
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    Come on now, she took a field trip to the area claimed it wasn’t that bad and there were even pictures posted of the crap around here and remained in somewhat denial even after taking a look with her own eyes.

  203. Vigilant1 said on 4 Feb 2008 at 10:56 pm:
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    Lafayette said on 4 Feb 2008 at 9:59 pm:
    ettolrahc said on 4 Feb 2008 at 8:52 pm:

    Laf, did you notice that the poster ettolrahc is charlotte spelled backwards?

  204. Lafayette said on 4 Feb 2008 at 11:27 pm:
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    Vigilant1,
    That was the point of my smart a$$ comment regarding “mom”.
    I guess she was testing the bvbl broadcast system. lol
    Did you see my earlier post regarding NW?

  205. Lafayette said on 5 Feb 2008 at 12:26 am:
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    Check this out from today’s MJM/Potomac News.
    This sick (you know what) was bus driver for The People’s Republic of Arlington since 1994. Sickening just sickening!!
    http://www.manassasjm.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=MJM/MGArticle/WPN_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173354482440&path=

  206. Ms. Bronte said on 5 Feb 2008 at 8:40 am:
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    Lafayette,
    Huh? I never called people liars, at least not regarding your housing situation. Yes, I saw your neighborhood with my own eyes, and yes, I was shocked. I agree, you have a problem there.

    The only liars I wonder about are those who deny there are racist overtones to some comments seen here, such as talking about “the breeding season of illegals”, and “the emergency room was filled with illegals”, when what they really mean are “Hispanics”.

    But please don’t waste your time finding ways to block me. I don’t have time to keep up with this, or even read it regularly anymore. I’ll just occasionally point out particularly egregious comments, if I can even get through….and if not, oh well, you will have achieved your goal of keeping me out.

  207. Lafayette said on 5 Feb 2008 at 8:55 am:
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    Ms. Bronte,
    I did NOT say you called us liars. I said this…*meaning you just fell short of saying this*
    Maybe, your comments and damn near calling very credible posters name near liars is what got you blocked.
    I don’t like to see anyone blocked really, but it is Greg L’s block and that is his choice. This includes even those that I stronly disagree with.
    I think you’ve come to realize I’m a reasonable and respectful individual. I only want to see the quality of life improved around here. We’ve had another horrible crime down in the area you toured a few weeks ago. I posted that on the PWCBOS thread. We need to put a stop to all of this BS going on in our county, state, and nation.
    Well as you can see you posts are showing up this morning. ;)

  208. CitizenofManassas said on 5 Feb 2008 at 5:41 pm:
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    Dolph,

    I think I already said there are companies that are like that, and that if someone is presented an offer that seems to be to good to be true it most likely is.

  209. Mrs. Ettol said on 5 Feb 2008 at 9:02 pm:
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    Lafayette said on 5 Feb 2008 at 8:55 am:

    I think you’ve come to realize I’m a reasonable and respectful individual. I only want to see the quality of life improved around here.

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    Ms. Laf, since my field trip and your taking the time to explain the situation, I have avoided commenting on anything related to you. I know that you are devoting a lot of time to your tasks. As a leader, though, I just wonder why you encourage comments like the ones I referred to above, why you don’t step in and say they are unacceptable, that we want to solve the problem of illegal immigration without stooping to dehumanizing and demonizing poor people.

  210. Patty said on 5 Feb 2008 at 9:57 pm:
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    Redskin fans,

    Any guesses as to who Dan Snyder will get for head coach? I heard this joke and I’m not sure I got it right, but someone said that Snyder will hire Tom Cruise for head coach and then they’ll change the name to Mission Impossible. If anyone has heard this joke please let me know what it is. Thanks!

  211. Lafayette said on 5 Feb 2008 at 10:50 pm:
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    Mrs. Ettol said on 5 Feb 2008 at 9:02 pm:
    I believe in freedom of speech. I’m no one’s leader and no one has to answer to me for their actions or comments. I personally don’t post such comments. If you’d read as many of posts as some have you might see my subtle comments of displeasure with certain things/comments.
    Here’s an example from earlier in this thread.
    I would like to say I seriously doubt all of these house owned by Latinos now being foreclosed were all illegals(some were).
    *********************************************
    I have a teenager and don’t need to be anyone’s mom on here. I don’t mean to sound rude. I’ve just said the same things so many and so many ways. I’m exhausted. I mean no disrespect just stating the facts as I see them.

  212. Johnson said on 6 Feb 2008 at 3:48 pm:
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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/05/AR2008020502948.html

    I’m surprised that Chief Deane didn’t have these already. They are a cop’s best friend. Be professional and let them hang themselves.

  213. Lafayette said on 6 Feb 2008 at 4:22 pm:
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    Johnson,
    I was surprised to hear that there weren’t any cameras in the cars. It was also pointed to the Chief that he’d never made any request for them either. Go figure! Well, the ADC is waiting for a new Superintendent and one Charlie’s own a Major has left. Will Charlie being stepping down anytime soon?

  214. Johnson said on 6 Feb 2008 at 5:04 pm:
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    From what I gathered from earlier postings, Deane is terrified of being sued for profiling or racism of any type, which is why he is loathe to get involved in any sort of activity that even remotely could be connected to racial profiling. Let’s face it, most of the illegal aliens in our area are hispanic. Sounds like someone in his past managed to get to him and win a settlement. Which was why I was surprised at the lack of video. It really is the best way to nip that foolishness in the bud. The illegals are very well coached in demanding their “rights” and crying racism at the outset.

  215. Lafayette said on 6 Feb 2008 at 5:25 pm:
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    Johnson,
    Agreed. The cameras have many benefits. The cases where an officer maybe attacked, or hit and run. Video is very compelling and could lead to an arrest of someone the gets away at initial traffic stop.

  216. 999 said on 6 Feb 2008 at 5:35 pm:
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    Mexico travel in your future? Better read this:

    http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/pa/pa_3028.html

  217. 999 said on 6 Feb 2008 at 5:40 pm:
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    Latest on Mexico kidnappings of U.S. citizens:

    http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/tijuana/20080206-9999-1m6kidnap.html

  218. Dolph said on 6 Feb 2008 at 6:00 pm:
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    RE: cameras for cop cars

    And who is going to foot this several million dollar bill on top of all our other expenses?

    Property taxes are going to more than double by the time we fund the rule of law resolution, the 287g jail program, the 287 g cop program, more paid fire and rescue and cameras for all the cop cars.

    If you have to prioritize because there is only x amount of money, what would stay, what would go? Is outfitting all the cop cars with camera equipment good insurance to offset future lawsuits? I would say yes.

    How about funding fire and rescue……finally. How many jurisdictions the size of Prince William County have so few paid professional fire and rescue personnel? How can we say no as a county after that compelling, heart-rendering presentation yesterday? That presentation, while tapping our emotional heart-strings, was well-documented with facts and figures.

    Frankly, I was somewhat skeptical after I heard the report from the jail. ICE doesn’t seem to be holding up their end of the deal. 2 weeks to show up? And who foots the bill there?

    We need to start prioritizing and we need to spend money on things we have control over. We are not the feds and we have no control over what they do or do not do. We must start being very wise with our limited resources.

  219. One Voice said on 6 Feb 2008 at 8:54 pm:
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    Humor button on.

    Oh Dolph, you are speaking to those that don’t want to hear this at all.

    County coffers will simply overflow with cash when the illegals leave. Both hospitals are going to just bring buckets of money to Mr. Stewart office, Schools will have bus loads of cash they will drop off as well. Oh, happy day….. I can almost see cars loads of HSM members leading the charge with horns blowing and banners waving…..

    Humor button off.

  220. Anonymous said on 6 Feb 2008 at 10:39 pm:
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    One Voice said on 6 Feb 2008 at 8:54 pm:
    Humor button on.

    Was something funny said? Must have missed it!

  221. Dave in PWC said on 6 Feb 2008 at 11:47 pm:
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    Krusty,

    Sorry I was not around to defend the rest of us ex military types, didn’t know this thread existed until tonight. I was too young to participate in Vietnam, but I spent many months in a submarine during the cold war being bored to death either looking and hunting for the “red team” or trying to remain undetected so we could launch our ICBMs if necessary. As they say, 75 days of boredom and a couple days of frantic maneuvering to remain undetected.

    The stops in the Phillipines and other WESTPAC ports were a lot of fun in the late 70’s and early 80’s before all the diseases started cropping up that could kill you or at least stay with you the rest of your life.

    I am proud of my service to the country, but I didn’t do any more or less than the rest of us did other than being out there so the rest of America could have the freedoms that we all insist on as our way of life. Best investment of 10 years of my life as it taught me many life skills and I grew up quite a bit while I was in the Navy.

    The illegals that had the busted pipe a couple weeks ago (I asked and they said they were illegal) vacated over the weekend and they owned the place. Didn’t see any appliances leave but I didn’t watch all day as they moved using one pickup truck, all day long…

  222. One Voice said on 7 Feb 2008 at 7:36 am:
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    Anon - Yup, you have missed it! :)

  223. WGW said on 7 Feb 2008 at 10:11 am:
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    I didn’t quite catch the humor either, but I’m just an old witch afterall.

  224. Dolph said on 7 Feb 2008 at 12:20 pm:
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    One Voice,

    I simply do not know what to say. Tell me that …..nah…..I won’t go there.

  225. One Voice said on 7 Feb 2008 at 12:56 pm:
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    Just picture that caravan drawn by Dr. Suess…… LOL LOL

  226. Lafayette said on 7 Feb 2008 at 3:00 pm:
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    I’ll be the one wearing Dorothy’s “Ruby Slippers”. ;)

  227. redawn said on 7 Feb 2008 at 9:34 pm:
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    Lafayette,

    There’s no place like home, there’s no place like home….keep clicking, it was a fairy tail.
    Dad but true, just look at LOYALTY…is there such a concept anymore, a job, family? Hmm :) just see the truth ( money)

  228. redawn said on 7 Feb 2008 at 9:36 pm:
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    SAD but true ( no hidden “dad” anything, if anything people PRAY or wish well for him as he is battling cancer, thanks)

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