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	<title>Comments on: HB 14 Passes House 68-28</title>
	<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/</link>
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		<title>By: Angry Blackman!</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52840</link>
		<dc:creator>Angry Blackman!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52840</guid>
		<description>The City of Manassas School System has been run down by kids of illegals. My nephew is gifted, in the first grade at Weems Elementary and out of 28 kids only 3 are white and 3 more are black, the rest are Hispanics. They cannot read, spell or do anything and while he's in the first grade he just turned 6.

They call on these kids to spell cat and they can't so he'll laugh (the immaturity on his part) since these words to him are so easy so as a kid, he think's it's funny although his parents tell him the right thing to do. Still, he's being hampered by these kids who do nothing but eat lunch and smile all day while being bad as hell.

This is his last year and next year, he'll move with us to Prince William County where some of the schools are not overburdened by kids of illegals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The City of Manassas School System has been run down by kids of illegals. My nephew is gifted, in the first grade at Weems Elementary and out of 28 kids only 3 are white and 3 more are black, the rest are Hispanics. They cannot read, spell or do anything and while he&#8217;s in the first grade he just turned 6.</p>
<p>They call on these kids to spell cat and they can&#8217;t so he&#8217;ll laugh (the immaturity on his part) since these words to him are so easy so as a kid, he think&#8217;s it&#8217;s funny although his parents tell him the right thing to do. Still, he&#8217;s being hampered by these kids who do nothing but eat lunch and smile all day while being bad as hell.</p>
<p>This is his last year and next year, he&#8217;ll move with us to Prince William County where some of the schools are not overburdened by kids of illegals.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52796</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52796</guid>
		<description>You know I keep hearing the question over and over with no legitimte answer.  "How do you know who is illegal and who is legal?"

So all you really smart people out there, why don't you tell us how we know who is legal and who is illegal?

1. Could it be that most "legal" people have a "US Birth Certificate" verified by the STATE?
2. Could it be that most "legal" people have a US passport, and if not a citizenship right, a valid "Green CARD", and if not a valid GREEN CARD a VALID I-94 and VISA that has not expired?


Do we need anything more to show businesses, schools, government agengies and police officers who request our status, we are "legal" residents of the US or "legal" visitors?

Forget just carrying a drivers license, how about just carrying a valid "Legal" ID on the back of a document (like a national ID Card) verified by one of the above documents?

Or would that be too hard for people to carry or trust?

Does anybody have a better idea other than NO ability to tell who is legal and who is "illegal"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know I keep hearing the question over and over with no legitimte answer.  &#8220;How do you know who is illegal and who is legal?&#8221;</p>
<p>So all you really smart people out there, why don&#8217;t you tell us how we know who is legal and who is illegal?</p>
<p>1. Could it be that most &#8220;legal&#8221; people have a &#8220;US Birth Certificate&#8221; verified by the STATE?<br />
2. Could it be that most &#8220;legal&#8221; people have a US passport, and if not a citizenship right, a valid &#8220;Green CARD&#8221;, and if not a valid GREEN CARD a VALID I-94 and VISA that has not expired?</p>
<p>Do we need anything more to show businesses, schools, government agengies and police officers who request our status, we are &#8220;legal&#8221; residents of the US or &#8220;legal&#8221; visitors?</p>
<p>Forget just carrying a drivers license, how about just carrying a valid &#8220;Legal&#8221; ID on the back of a document (like a national ID Card) verified by one of the above documents?</p>
<p>Or would that be too hard for people to carry or trust?</p>
<p>Does anybody have a better idea other than NO ability to tell who is legal and who is &#8220;illegal&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52788</link>
		<dc:creator>dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52788</guid>
		<description>Many of the spots at the major colleges are taken by foreign students on student visas.  They will take their knowledge upon graduation and return to their country of origin, if they don't overstay their visa and become an illegal.  Other spots are taken by out of state students because they provide diversity and they bring in more money.  

Quite frankly, if a kid comes up through the Virginia school system and is a good student and has the qualifications to go to college, go at it.  I am all for being being educated.  The more educated people out there, the fewer on the dole and the more to pay into the social security system to support me in my old age.  

These kinds of laws do not address real problems.  They just show mean-spiritedness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of the spots at the major colleges are taken by foreign students on student visas.  They will take their knowledge upon graduation and return to their country of origin, if they don&#8217;t overstay their visa and become an illegal.  Other spots are taken by out of state students because they provide diversity and they bring in more money.  </p>
<p>Quite frankly, if a kid comes up through the Virginia school system and is a good student and has the qualifications to go to college, go at it.  I am all for being being educated.  The more educated people out there, the fewer on the dole and the more to pay into the social security system to support me in my old age.  </p>
<p>These kinds of laws do not address real problems.  They just show mean-spiritedness.</p>
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		<title>By: Guerrita</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52773</link>
		<dc:creator>Guerrita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52773</guid>
		<description>Let's see now - Four years of investment into college= 35 years of paying into our tax system if you would be open - minded enough to allow them to do this. 
I can't believe this is the state that stands on the ideals of Jeffersonian beliefs about education. 
Why can't  the immigrant students just pay out - of - state tuition?
What if this immigrant had the abillity to discover a cure for cancer, but due to his or her privilege of birth, was denied that opportunity?
And you call yourselves American?? 
I am ashamed to call you neighbor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see now - Four years of investment into college= 35 years of paying into our tax system if you would be open - minded enough to allow them to do this.<br />
I can&#8217;t believe this is the state that stands on the ideals of Jeffersonian beliefs about education.<br />
Why can&#8217;t  the immigrant students just pay out - of - state tuition?<br />
What if this immigrant had the abillity to discover a cure for cancer, but due to his or her privilege of birth, was denied that opportunity?<br />
And you call yourselves American??<br />
I am ashamed to call you neighbor.</p>
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		<title>By: Loudoun</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52762</link>
		<dc:creator>Loudoun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52762</guid>
		<description>Harry

Good news on HB 14 - now let's wait and see if the traitor SANS LAW kills it in his subcommittee.

I don't want my children to have to compete with an illegal alien for a spot at UVA, VA TECH, or William &#38; Mary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry</p>
<p>Good news on HB 14 - now let&#8217;s wait and see if the traitor SANS LAW kills it in his subcommittee.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want my children to have to compete with an illegal alien for a spot at UVA, VA TECH, or William &amp; Mary.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52750</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52750</guid>
		<description>HB 14 passed the House on third reading today (moving it on to the Senate) by a vote of 73-26.  The leaders of both parires voted for the bill:  Armstong (D), Howell/Griffith (R).  The entire  Prince William/Manassas/Manassas Park  delegation voted in favor of the bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HB 14 passed the House on third reading today (moving it on to the Senate) by a vote of 73-26.  The leaders of both parires voted for the bill:  Armstong (D), Howell/Griffith (R).  The entire  Prince William/Manassas/Manassas Park  delegation voted in favor of the bill.</p>
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		<title>By: junes_reston</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52692</link>
		<dc:creator>junes_reston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 11:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52692</guid>
		<description>If the Courts of Justice Committee allowed SB 90 to get to the floor for a vote, there is a slight probability it would pass.  E-Verify is the one bill that would do more to significantly reduce the number of illegal aliens in the work force (which is why they couldn't let it get to the floor)

With E-Verify in place, there would be little reason to waste time with many of the other illegal alien related bills, as there would be few if any illegal aliens left in the Commonwealth.

It looks like the GA plans to grant authority to the foxes (businesses) to guard the hen house.  And be sure they will be rewarded handsomely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Courts of Justice Committee allowed SB 90 to get to the floor for a vote, there is a slight probability it would pass.  E-Verify is the one bill that would do more to significantly reduce the number of illegal aliens in the work force (which is why they couldn&#8217;t let it get to the floor)</p>
<p>With E-Verify in place, there would be little reason to waste time with many of the other illegal alien related bills, as there would be few if any illegal aliens left in the Commonwealth.</p>
<p>It looks like the GA plans to grant authority to the foxes (businesses) to guard the hen house.  And be sure they will be rewarded handsomely.</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52632</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 08:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52632</guid>
		<description>"Virginia does not allow for the recall of elected officials."

Not true Citizen...there IS a recall provision in Virginia.  It is, however, adjudicated in the courts rather than by the electorate, making it far more difficult to remove undesirable elected officials.  This should give each and every voter pause before they make that decision to vote for the "lesser of two evils," or go to the polls uninformed.  I love that write in.  Maybe, one of these days, it will actually do some good.  At least, for the moment, my conscience remains clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Virginia does not allow for the recall of elected officials.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not true Citizen&#8230;there IS a recall provision in Virginia.  It is, however, adjudicated in the courts rather than by the electorate, making it far more difficult to remove undesirable elected officials.  This should give each and every voter pause before they make that decision to vote for the &#8220;lesser of two evils,&#8221; or go to the polls uninformed.  I love that write in.  Maybe, one of these days, it will actually do some good.  At least, for the moment, my conscience remains clear.</p>
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		<title>By: CitizenofManassas</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52560</link>
		<dc:creator>CitizenofManassas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 03:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52560</guid>
		<description>Virginia does not allow for the recall of elected officials. 

Here is a link that shows who made contributions to Dick.   Not surprising Real Estate and Construction top the list of donors. 

http://vpap.org/cands/cand_index.cfm?ToKey=COM00254&#38;CycleID=2007&#38;CycleType=Regular</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Virginia does not allow for the recall of elected officials. </p>
<p>Here is a link that shows who made contributions to Dick.   Not surprising Real Estate and Construction top the list of donors. </p>
<p><a href="http://vpap.org/cands/cand_index.cfm?ToKey=COM00254&amp;CycleID=2007&amp;CycleType=Regular" rel="nofollow">http://vpap.org/cands/cand_index.cfm?ToKey=COM00254&amp;CycleID=2007&amp;CycleType=Regular</a></p>
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		<title>By: CitizenofManassas</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52559</link>
		<dc:creator>CitizenofManassas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 03:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52559</guid>
		<description>I'm sure Dick will once again live up to what he is named after by killing this bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure Dick will once again live up to what he is named after by killing this bill.</p>
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		<title>By: 999</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52548</link>
		<dc:creator>999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 23:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52548</guid>
		<description>JimmyV said on 1 Feb 2008 at 4:19 pm: 
How do you know that these numbers are high in illegals? I think there is a high probability that they are, but just how do we KNOW for sure? And just because a kid can’t speak English does not mean he is not American born. These folks all (or at least most) speak Spanish at home so the kid has a hard time picking up English out of school even if he has been here his whole life.

Unless the kid is a complete moron or has been kept away from the gringos the first 6 years of his life, one will pick up the language from his friends in the normal course of mingling and playing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JimmyV said on 1 Feb 2008 at 4:19 pm:<br />
How do you know that these numbers are high in illegals? I think there is a high probability that they are, but just how do we KNOW for sure? And just because a kid can’t speak English does not mean he is not American born. These folks all (or at least most) speak Spanish at home so the kid has a hard time picking up English out of school even if he has been here his whole life.</p>
<p>Unless the kid is a complete moron or has been kept away from the gringos the first 6 years of his life, one will pick up the language from his friends in the normal course of mingling and playing.</p>
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		<title>By: 999</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52545</link>
		<dc:creator>999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 23:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jfk said on 1 Feb 2008 at 2:07 pm: 
 I know that democrats as a rule are not as strong against illegal immigration as republicans.

Did everyone catch "Teddie and his lovely wife Vicky" on CSPAN today pandering to the Latinos in Easy LA?  It was absolutely sickening to watch and listen to his ranting how he and Obamarama are fighting for the Latinos and their hard work and religious stability (nothing said about Latinos having the highest illegitimate birth rate.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jfk said on 1 Feb 2008 at 2:07 pm:<br />
 I know that democrats as a rule are not as strong against illegal immigration as republicans.</p>
<p>Did everyone catch &#8220;Teddie and his lovely wife Vicky&#8221; on CSPAN today pandering to the Latinos in Easy LA?  It was absolutely sickening to watch and listen to his ranting how he and Obamarama are fighting for the Latinos and their hard work and religious stability (nothing said about Latinos having the highest illegitimate birth rate.)</p>
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		<title>By: /\/\3&#124;)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award)</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52531</link>
		<dc:creator>/\/\3&#124;)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 22:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big Dog said on 1 Feb 2008 at 4:56 pm:

I agree VA should follow AZ and OK.  They have it right on spot with their laws.  They are withstanding court dates as well.  However, when one of our legislators comes right out and states that no ILLEGAL alien legislation will be passed this session, seems to me that they do not have the common good of their constituents or their will in mind.

Voting is more important now than ever!!!  Remembering the way people behave is important as well.  A note pad is handy for just such occasions.  Writing down the good and bad helps me remember what they did all year and not right before election time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Dog said on 1 Feb 2008 at 4:56 pm:</p>
<p>I agree VA should follow AZ and OK.  They have it right on spot with their laws.  They are withstanding court dates as well.  However, when one of our legislators comes right out and states that no ILLEGAL alien legislation will be passed this session, seems to me that they do not have the common good of their constituents or their will in mind.</p>
<p>Voting is more important now than ever!!!  Remembering the way people behave is important as well.  A note pad is handy for just such occasions.  Writing down the good and bad helps me remember what they did all year and not right before election time.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52530</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52530</guid>
		<description>Batson
  
          Vent away, blogs like BVBL are good for that,
 but the harsh reality is that small to medium sized
 jurisdictions across the country have been stymied
 by the federal court system/government when 
 attempting to address the negative impact of illegal
 immigration. (Hazelton,Pa.; Farmer's Branch, Tx.;
 etc. - dead in the water). One of the few exceptions
 is the ICE program to identify and deport convicted
 criminals - and that has been changed several times due 
 to the whims of Washington.
          The best bet right now  rides with states
like Arizona and Oklahoma - they are today's leaders.
Virginia should follow their example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Batson</p>
<p>          Vent away, blogs like BVBL are good for that,<br />
 but the harsh reality is that small to medium sized<br />
 jurisdictions across the country have been stymied<br />
 by the federal court system/government when<br />
 attempting to address the negative impact of illegal<br />
 immigration. (Hazelton,Pa.; Farmer&#8217;s Branch, Tx.;<br />
 etc. - dead in the water). One of the few exceptions<br />
 is the ICE program to identify and deport convicted<br />
 criminals - and that has been changed several times due<br />
 to the whims of Washington.<br />
          The best bet right now  rides with states<br />
like Arizona and Oklahoma - they are today&#8217;s leaders.<br />
Virginia should follow their example.</p>
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		<title>By: Batson D. Belfrey</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52524</link>
		<dc:creator>Batson D. Belfrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52524</guid>
		<description>"And just because a kid can’t speak English does not mean he is not American born. These folks all (or at least most) speak Spanish at home so the kid has a hard time picking up English out of school even if he has been here his whole life."

Right. Sure. Do the words "intellectually dishonestl" mean anything to you? You hide behind the "lack of stats" when you know it's against the law to gather these stats. Whne someone makes a statement, you and your crowd call it "anecdotal" However, when someone exptrapolates from solid data gained elsewhere, you come back with some anecdotal argument of your own. If a kid is born here, and watches any TV, they will learn english. If a kid is born here and associates with any other children, he will learn English. These stats are equally distributed throughout the various primary school grades. You want to tell me why there is a 4th grader in an ESOL class? What, did his parents just keep him home until the beginning of the 4th grade? What about the 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th graders?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And just because a kid can’t speak English does not mean he is not American born. These folks all (or at least most) speak Spanish at home so the kid has a hard time picking up English out of school even if he has been here his whole life.&#8221;</p>
<p>Right. Sure. Do the words &#8220;intellectually dishonestl&#8221; mean anything to you? You hide behind the &#8220;lack of stats&#8221; when you know it&#8217;s against the law to gather these stats. Whne someone makes a statement, you and your crowd call it &#8220;anecdotal&#8221; However, when someone exptrapolates from solid data gained elsewhere, you come back with some anecdotal argument of your own. If a kid is born here, and watches any TV, they will learn english. If a kid is born here and associates with any other children, he will learn English. These stats are equally distributed throughout the various primary school grades. You want to tell me why there is a 4th grader in an ESOL class? What, did his parents just keep him home until the beginning of the 4th grade? What about the 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th graders?</p>
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		<title>By: JimmyV</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52521</link>
		<dc:creator>JimmyV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52521</guid>
		<description>How do you know that these numbers are high in illegals?  I think there is a high probability that they are, but just how do we KNOW for sure?  And just because a kid can't speak English does not mean he is not American born.  These folks all (or at least most) speak Spanish at home so the kid has a hard time picking up English out of school even if he has been here his whole life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you know that these numbers are high in illegals?  I think there is a high probability that they are, but just how do we KNOW for sure?  And just because a kid can&#8217;t speak English does not mean he is not American born.  These folks all (or at least most) speak Spanish at home so the kid has a hard time picking up English out of school even if he has been here his whole life.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dog</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52520</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52520</guid>
		<description>Dolph,
           Sadly, the federal courts will not allow local
 school systems to determine who is here illegally
 so, while one can make an intelligent guess, there
 are no hard numbers. This clearly creates 
 another defacto unfunded mandate from the
 federal government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dolph,<br />
           Sadly, the federal courts will not allow local<br />
 school systems to determine who is here illegally<br />
 so, while one can make an intelligent guess, there<br />
 are no hard numbers. This clearly creates<br />
 another defacto unfunded mandate from the<br />
 federal government.</p>
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		<title>By: /\/\3&#124;)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award)</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52517</link>
		<dc:creator>/\/\3&#124;)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52517</guid>
		<description>starryflights said on 1 Feb 2008 at 3:33 pm:

I will sign it!!!  To come out and state no ILLEGAL alien legislation will pass is just absurd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>starryflights said on 1 Feb 2008 at 3:33 pm:</p>
<p>I will sign it!!!  To come out and state no ILLEGAL alien legislation will pass is just absurd.</p>
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		<title>By: starryflights</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52511</link>
		<dc:creator>starryflights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52511</guid>
		<description>Can we start a Petition for Saslaw's removal from office?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we start a Petition for Saslaw&#8217;s removal from office?</p>
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		<title>By: Batson D. Belfrey</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52507</link>
		<dc:creator>Batson D. Belfrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/01/hb-14-passes-house-68-28/#comment-52507</guid>
		<description>"- Manassas has an above average percentage of ESOL
students - twice that of PWC - and the number has grown
rapidly over the last four years to 28%."

Looks like Wolfe &#38; Smith better wake up and realize that illegal immigration is going to be a very big issue, even if their Park Street supporters don't think it should be. These are quantifiable numbers, with quantifiable impacts to the budget. As the budget gets tougher, they can ethier rasie taxes or cut spending. A great way to cut spending is pick up the welcome mat for illegals. We see that many have left PWC, as births are down at the local hospitals and  ESOL populations are declining in their schools.  PWC is seeing a cost benefit to their illegal alien crackdown, and now the numbers are agreeing with what any rational person knew to be true: The cost of illegal immigration on the local community is high. Get the illegals to leave, and the costs go down.

When Hugo...er Linda Chavez was here trying to grill Stewart on the county resolution, she went on and on about the lack of stats to support the County's actions. Well, here they are. The Ctiy would be wise to take a look at this, because it is simple to arrive at what the cost savings would be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;- Manassas has an above average percentage of ESOL<br />
students - twice that of PWC - and the number has grown<br />
rapidly over the last four years to 28%.&#8221;</p>
<p>Looks like Wolfe &amp; Smith better wake up and realize that illegal immigration is going to be a very big issue, even if their Park Street supporters don&#8217;t think it should be. These are quantifiable numbers, with quantifiable impacts to the budget. As the budget gets tougher, they can ethier rasie taxes or cut spending. A great way to cut spending is pick up the welcome mat for illegals. We see that many have left PWC, as births are down at the local hospitals and  ESOL populations are declining in their schools.  PWC is seeing a cost benefit to their illegal alien crackdown, and now the numbers are agreeing with what any rational person knew to be true: The cost of illegal immigration on the local community is high. Get the illegals to leave, and the costs go down.</p>
<p>When Hugo&#8230;er Linda Chavez was here trying to grill Stewart on the county resolution, she went on and on about the lack of stats to support the County&#8217;s actions. Well, here they are. The Ctiy would be wise to take a look at this, because it is simple to arrive at what the cost savings would be.</p>
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