Comments on: PWBOCS To Vote On Funding Rule Of Law Resolution http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/ Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics. Wed, 23 May 2012 11:19:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-53159 /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:35:18 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-53159 You are the third person on BVBL telling me to lighten up. I guess I have come across as brash the last few posts. You are the third person on BVBL telling me to lighten up. I guess I have come across as brash the last few posts.

]]> By: Lafayette http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-53152 Lafayette Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:13:03 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-53152 /\/\3|)iç 64, Oh, I don't think you doubted me. I wanted to unleash Patty's words for those who don't believe. "see with your own eyes". Lighten up just a little humor. :) Wow, that new project must be keeping you busy. Thank you for calling them, and I will be watching. I'm going out that way soon. I'll see what's happening in the area. /\/\3|)iç 64,
Oh, I don’t think you doubted me. I wanted to unleash Patty’s words for those who don’t believe. “see with your own eyes”.
Lighten up just a little humor. :)
Wow, that new project must be keeping you busy.

Thank you for calling them, and I will be watching. I’m going out that way soon. I’ll see what’s happening in the area.

]]> By: /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-53146 /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:57:13 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-53146 Lafayette, I didn't doubt your word that there was tagging, I just couldn't see it form the road at the times I tried to look at it. I reported it to the maintenance dept. The lady said they would have someone look into it. Lafayette,

I didn’t doubt your word that there was tagging, I just couldn’t see it form the road at the times I tried to look at it.

I reported it to the maintenance dept. The lady said they would have someone look into it.

]]> By: Lafayette http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-53126 Lafayette Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:56:51 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-53126 M64, The tagging is on Portsmouth coming from 234 on right hand side. It just before the last row on townhouse before turning on your street. Here's a picture for your very own eyes. http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2967519130102412507SETDtc The laundromat around from the Global Mart. Coverstone is still a mess. I addressed the situation at the BOS meeting on Tuesday. The numbers went down when the police were there and now the police aren't there. We are still looking at an average of 25 in the mornings, and yep it includes the weekends. This must STOP!! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!! M64,
The tagging is on Portsmouth coming from 234 on right hand side. It just before the last row on townhouse before turning on your street. Here’s a picture for your very own eyes.
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2967519130102412507SETDtc

The laundromat around from the Global Mart.
Coverstone is still a mess. I addressed the situation at the BOS meeting on Tuesday. The numbers went down when the police were there and now the police aren’t there. We are still looking at an average of 25 in the mornings, and yep it includes the weekends. This must STOP!! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!

]]> By: /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-53119 /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:20:51 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-53119 Michael said on 6 Feb 2008 at 9:03 pm I agree, but it will never happen because he has contributors to answer to after all!!! Michael said on 6 Feb 2008 at 9:03 pm

I agree, but it will never happen because he has contributors to answer to after all!!!

]]> By: Michael http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-53078 Michael Thu, 07 Feb 2008 02:03:49 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-53078 Valley Park, Missouri is doing what the rest of the Va State legislature needs to be doing. Protecting its citizens from "illegal" behavior consequences. Get some backbone and non-misguided ethics Senator Salislaw! Valley Park, Missouri is doing what the rest of the Va State legislature needs to be doing. Protecting its citizens from “illegal” behavior consequences.

Get some backbone and non-misguided ethics Senator Salislaw!

]]> By: /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-53047 /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:10:51 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-53047 I haven't seen it to know which one it is. I looked where you said, but didn't see it. Can you give me the location again and I will send it to the maintenance office. I noticed the early evenings seem to be busier than other times. Sat was SLOOOWWWWW. I can't see the ones in front of Global unless I drive through the lot in the morning. I did notice there were quite a few at the Cornerstone again this morning. If the loitering laws were enforced, it would do a great deal to slow this down. One warning, then take them to the jail. I haven’t seen it to know which one it is. I looked where you said, but didn’t see it. Can you give me the location again and I will send it to the maintenance office.

I noticed the early evenings seem to be busier than other times. Sat was SLOOOWWWWW.

I can’t see the ones in front of Global unless I drive through the lot in the morning. I did notice there were quite a few at the Cornerstone again this morning. If the loitering laws were enforced, it would do a great deal to slow this down. One warning, then take them to the jail.

]]> By: Lafayette http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-53021 Lafayette Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:57:32 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-53021 M64, Never a dull moment as always. Hey how about asking WG Apts to do something about that tagged tree by you? The local laudromat was looking a little busier today than it has lately. The loiterers were out in front of Global today and not the vacant furniture store. We need the existing laws enforced NOW! M64,
Never a dull moment as always.
Hey how about asking WG Apts to do something about that tagged tree by you?
The local laudromat was looking a little busier today than it has lately. The loiterers were out in front of Global today and not the vacant furniture store.
We need the existing laws enforced NOW!

]]> By: /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-53006 /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:34:07 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-53006 Lafayette, Naw, I have a business venture I am working on and it has taken some extra time. How are things on your end? Lafayette,

Naw, I have a business venture I am working on and it has taken some extra time.

How are things on your end?

]]> By: dilly http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-52982 dilly Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:08:03 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-52982 BILL NO. 1851 ORDINANCE NO. 1708 *********************************** AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION WITHIN THE CITY OF VALLEY PARK, MO *********************************** WHEREAS, the Board of Aldermen of the City of Valley Park finds that illegal immigration leads to higher crime rates, contributes to overcrowded classrooms and failing schools, and destroys our neighborhoods and diminishes our overall quality of life; and WHEREAS, the City of Valley Park is empowered and mandated by the people of the City of Valley Park to abate the nuisance of illegal immigration by aggressively prohibiting and punishing the acts, policies, people and businesses that aid and abet illegal aliens; NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT ORDAINED BY THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN OF THE CITY OF VALLEY PARK, MISSOURI, AS FOLLOWS: Section One DEFINITIONS. Whenever used in this chapter, the following terms shall have the following meanings: “City” means the City of Valley Park, Missouri; “Contract employer” means any person who obtains the services of one or more individuals through a day labor agency; and “Vehicle” means a vehicle as defined in State or Missouri Vehicle Code as the same now reads or may hereafter be amended. Section Two BUSINESS PERMITS, CONTRACTS OR GRANTS. Any for-profit entity, including acts committed by its parent company or subsidiaries, that aids and abets illegal aliens or illegal immigration shall be denied approval of a business permit, the renewal of a business permit, city contracts or grants for a period not less that five (5) years from its last offense. A. Aiding and abetting shall include, but not be limited to, the hiring or attempted hiring of illegal aliens, renting or leasing to illegal aliens, or funding or aiding in the establishment of a day laborer center that does not verify legal work status. B. Any act that aids and abets illegal aliens within the United States, not just within the City limits, will constitute a violation. Section Three RENTING TO ILLEGAL ALIENS. A. Illegal aliens are prohibited from leasing or renting property. Any property owner or renter/tenant/lessee in control of property, who knowingly allows an illegal alien to use, rent or lease their property shall be in violation of this section. B. Any person or entity that violates this section shall be subject to a fine of not less than Five Hundred Dollars ($500.00). Section Four ENGLISH ONLY. A. The City of Valley Park declares that English is the official language of the City. B. Unless explicitly mandated by the federal government, the State of Missouri or the City of Valley Park, all official city business, forms documents, signage, telecommunication or electronic communication devices will be conducted or written in or utilize English only. Section Five SEVERABILITY. If any part of provision of this Chapter is in conflict or inconsistent with applicable provisions of federal or state statutes, or is otherwise held to be invalid or unenforceable by any court of competent jurisdiction, such part of provision shall be suspended and superseded by such applicable laws or regulations, and the remainder of this Chapter shall not be affected thereby. Section Six This ordinance shall become effective from and after its passage and upon approval by the Mayor. PASSED AND APPROVED THIS 17TH DAY OF JULY, 2006 http://www.valleyparkmo.org/docs/Ordinances/Ordinance%201708.pdf BILL NO. 1851 ORDINANCE NO. 1708
***********************************
AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO
ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION WITHIN
THE CITY OF VALLEY PARK, MO
***********************************
WHEREAS, the Board of Aldermen of the City of Valley Park finds that
illegal immigration leads to higher crime rates, contributes to overcrowded classrooms and failing schools, and destroys our neighborhoods and diminishes our overall quality of life; and
WHEREAS, the City of Valley Park is empowered and mandated by the people of the City of Valley Park to abate the nuisance of illegal immigration by aggressively prohibiting and punishing the acts, policies, people and businesses that aid and abet illegal aliens;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT ORDAINED BY THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN OF THE CITY OF VALLEY PARK, MISSOURI, AS FOLLOWS:
Section One
DEFINITIONS.
Whenever used in this chapter, the following terms shall have the following meanings:
“City” means the City of Valley Park, Missouri;
“Contract employer” means any person who obtains the services of one or more individuals through a day labor agency; and
“Vehicle” means a vehicle as defined in State or Missouri Vehicle Code as the same now reads or may hereafter be amended.
Section Two
BUSINESS PERMITS, CONTRACTS OR GRANTS.
Any for-profit entity, including acts committed by its parent company or subsidiaries, that aids and abets illegal aliens or illegal immigration shall be denied approval of a business permit, the renewal of a business permit, city contracts or grants for a period not less that five (5) years from its last offense.
A. Aiding and abetting shall include, but not be limited to, the hiring or
attempted hiring of illegal aliens, renting or leasing to illegal aliens, or
funding or aiding in the establishment of a day laborer center that does not
verify legal work status.
B. Any act that aids and abets illegal aliens within the United States, not just within the City limits, will constitute a violation.
Section Three
RENTING TO ILLEGAL ALIENS.
A. Illegal aliens are prohibited from leasing or renting property. Any
property owner or renter/tenant/lessee in control of property, who
knowingly allows an illegal alien to use, rent or lease their property shall
be in violation of this section.
B. Any person or entity that violates this section shall be subject to a fine of not less than Five Hundred Dollars ($500.00).
Section Four
ENGLISH ONLY.
A. The City of Valley Park declares that English is the official language of
the City.
B. Unless explicitly mandated by the federal government, the State of Missouri or the City of Valley Park, all official city business, forms documents, signage, telecommunication or electronic communication devices will be conducted or written in or utilize English only.
Section Five
SEVERABILITY.
If any part of provision of this Chapter is in conflict or inconsistent with applicable provisions of federal or state statutes, or is otherwise held to be invalid or unenforceable by any court of competent jurisdiction, such part of provision shall be suspended and superseded by such applicable laws or regulations, and the remainder of this Chapter shall not be affected thereby.
Section Six
This ordinance shall become effective from and after its passage and upon approval by the Mayor.
PASSED AND APPROVED THIS 17TH DAY OF JULY, 2006

http://www.valleyparkmo.org/docs/Ordinances/Ordinance%201708.pdf

]]> By: Lafayette http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-52963 Lafayette Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:15:48 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-52963 corr: Michelle Cosiato loves to brag about all the popsicle signs they remove and generate REVENUE for. I believe the fine is $100 per sign. I see at least 50 signs every weekend. Now, that's a lot of cash they are missing out on. corr: Michelle Cosiato loves to brag about all the popsicle signs they remove and generate REVENUE for.

I believe the fine is $100 per sign. I see at least 50 signs every weekend. Now, that’s a lot of cash they are missing out on.

]]> By: Lafayette http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-52961 Lafayette Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:12:54 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-52961 dolph said on 5 Feb 2008 at 11:42 pm: /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 6 Feb 2008 at 9:33 am: I agree with you both completely. One snag we have with Neighborhood Services is one inspector. We've reported on incidents of him going to the wrong houses, etc. Neighborhood Services needs to have a flexible schedule to include inspections on the weekend. They have a much better chance of actually speaking to someone regarding the violation. Michelle Cosiato loves to brag about all the popsicle signs they remove and generate revune for. They could probably triple their violations and fines if they were out there looking for this crap on the weekend. I do know of a couple of inspectors that have been known to do this from time to time. This is what we need. M64, Thought you were MIA. dolph said on 5 Feb 2008 at 11:42 pm:
/\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 6 Feb 2008 at 9:33 am:

I agree with you both completely. One snag we have with Neighborhood Services is one inspector. We’ve reported on incidents of him going to the wrong houses, etc. Neighborhood Services needs to have a flexible schedule to include inspections on the weekend. They have a much better chance of actually speaking to someone regarding the violation. Michelle Cosiato loves to brag about all the popsicle signs they remove and generate revune for. They could probably triple their violations and fines if they were out there looking for this crap on the weekend. I do know of a couple of inspectors that have been known to do this from time to time. This is what we need.

M64,
Thought you were MIA.

]]> By: /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-52958 /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:58:17 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-52958 http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/02/02/america/Valley-Park-Immigration.php We need to find out the language of this law and adopt it. http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/02/02/america/Valley-Park-Immigration.php

We need to find out the language of this law and adopt it.

]]> By: starryflights http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-52957 starryflights Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:55:15 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-52957 I found it very convenient that Stirrup was MIA and Jenkins "offered" for all to wait on the resolution funding vote, until the next meeting which will be AFTER the VA Primaries. Maybe the BOS is waiting to see who wins the Primary in PWC to see where the majority really stands on illegal immigration. Just a thought. I found it very convenient that Stirrup was MIA and Jenkins “offered” for all to wait on the resolution funding vote, until the next meeting which will be AFTER the VA Primaries. Maybe the BOS is waiting to see who wins the Primary in PWC to see where the majority really stands on illegal immigration. Just a thought.

]]> By: /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-52954 /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:44:24 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-52954 Anon said on 6 Feb 2008 at 2:02 am: The problem with that is the organization will be black listed and run out of business. They will be made out as racists, xenophobes and Hispanic haters. IMHO, no organization wants to be the one who is black listed. There is too much political correctness in our world right now and it is going to affect us in a negative way real quick. Anon said on 6 Feb 2008 at 2:02 am:

The problem with that is the organization will be black listed and run out of business. They will be made out as racists, xenophobes and Hispanic haters.

IMHO, no organization wants to be the one who is black listed. There is too much political correctness in our world right now and it is going to affect us in a negative way real quick.

]]> By: /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-52951 /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:33:14 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-52951 Dolph, I have said all along, let's take care of the small crimes and the larger ones will work their way out. Dolph,

I have said all along, let’s take care of the small crimes and the larger ones will work their way out.

]]> By: Anon http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-52929 Anon Wed, 06 Feb 2008 07:02:06 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-52929 park'd, Its because no organization is printing ads to educate the public on the real issues of illegal immigration. out of mind , and people will want amnesty. Show them it affects their lives, neighborhoods, families, and they may, may change their mind. But no organization is doing this. park’d,

Its because no organization is printing ads to educate the public on the real issues of illegal immigration.

out of mind , and people will want amnesty.

Show them it affects their lives, neighborhoods, families, and they may, may change their mind.

But no organization is doing this.

]]> By: dolph http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-52923 dolph Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:42:08 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-52923 We need to seriously crack down on the nusance crimes and neighborhood issues. These are things we have control over. We need to seriously crack down on the nusance crimes and neighborhood issues. These are things we have control over.

]]> By: madmom http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-52916 madmom Wed, 06 Feb 2008 03:44:07 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-52916 Mr. Principi asked for a Directive for action on the problem with day laborers. He sited crime, property values, etc. He wanted a directive to explore options available to the BOCS to tackle the problem. Options: 1- see how other communities across the nation have addressed issue 2- work with local businesses, corporate parents, etc. to prevent day laborers from gathering on their property. 3- work with faith based commuity to address temporary employment needs within law. 4- enforcement of existing loitering and tresspassing laws 5- ban on soliciting of temporary work and open air markets He said that two things are certain: 1 - that the status quo is NOT ACCEPTABLE 2 - that the county should not be exploring a county funded day labor center Corey Stewart wanted to enforcement of other state and county laws like urinating in public, etc. Mr. Principi asked for a Directive for action on the problem with day laborers. He sited crime, property values, etc. He wanted a directive to explore options available to the BOCS to tackle the problem.

Options:
1- see how other communities across the nation have addressed issue
2- work with local businesses, corporate parents, etc. to prevent day laborers from gathering on their property.
3- work with faith based commuity to address temporary employment needs within law.
4- enforcement of existing loitering and tresspassing laws
5- ban on soliciting of temporary work and open air markets

He said that two things are certain:
1 - that the status quo is NOT ACCEPTABLE
2 - that the county should not be exploring a county
funded day labor center

Corey Stewart wanted to enforcement of other state and county laws like urinating in public, etc.

]]> By: Patty http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-52915 Patty Wed, 06 Feb 2008 03:41:19 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/02/04/pwbocs-to-vote-on-funding-rule-of-law-resolution/#comment-52915 Madmom It is for overcrowding issues. Last year the General Assembly gave local governments zoning power to crack down on overcrowded boarding houses in residential areas. They also gave local governments subpoena power. I believe that a local government actually has to pass this as an ordinance even though the power has already been given by the state. Madmom

It is for overcrowding issues. Last year the General Assembly gave local governments zoning power to crack down on overcrowded boarding houses in residential areas. They also gave local governments subpoena power. I believe that a local government actually has to pass this as an ordinance even though the power has already been given by the state.

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