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Illegal Alien Murder Suspect Caught In Texas

By Greg L | 8 February 2008 | Fairfax County, Illegal Aliens, Crime | 83 Comments

So where are we suspects wanted in the murders of Virginians these days?  At the Kingsville Border Patrol Station, of all places, trying to unlawfully re-enter the country on a northbound freight train.

One subject was identified as a 27-year-old Honduran national with an arrest warrant from Virginia. The warrant is for three felony counts of forging public documents and three felony counts of unlawfully obtaining documents from the motor vehicles department. The man is also wanted for questioning concerning a homicide that occurred on July 28, 2007 in Chantilly, Va.

Here’s someone who was an illegal alien, was engaged in identity fraud, and then apparently graduated from petty crimes all the way up to murder.  What would have happened if instead of looking the other way when illegal aliens commit minor crimes, we actually enforced our laws and had these folks deported before their criminal activity rose to the level of murder?  Would someone’s death been averted?  I think the undeniable answer is that it absolutely would have.

Of note is that the current policy in Fairfax County is that law enforcement officers are prohibited from even asking suspected illegal aliens about their immigration status unless they are suspected of committing a felony.  Not only is this policy a violation of federal law, but it demonstrably puts citizens in Fairfax at risk by protecting illegal aliens from the consequences of their unlawful behavior.  No other class of lawbreakers is similarly protected in Fairfax County while illegal aliens get to enjoy catch-and-release.  Effectively, people who can actually vote are held to a stricter standard of law than those who cannot.

Kudos to the Border Patrol for catching and identifying this individual so he can be held to account.  I hope news of this serves as a deterrent to others who might otherwise do the same, but unless Fairfax County officials change their sanctuary policies, I doubt this will be the last story we hear about an illegal alien who is protected by law enforcement and then later commits a serious felony against one of our citizens.



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83 Comments

  1. valleygirl said on 8 Feb 2008 at 12:00 pm:
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    Granted, this person should not be trying to reenter the country. Good that he was apprehended, but how quick you are to throw out one of the most important components of our legal system “innocent until proven guilty” in order to fanatically pursue your cause. How does “wanted for questioning” become “murder suspect” with the clear implication that this man is indeed a murderer?

    Popular as you may be on this blog, you are a pseudo reporter who would never be accepted among the general public. Your tactics are inflammatory, unprofessional, unscrupulous, and disingenuous and would be laughable if the subject matter were not so serious.

    Gladly, you no longer can claim that a majority of Americans reject amnesty and feel the issue of illegal immigration to be the nation ending threat that you present it as. If so, we would not be looking at McCain as the R. candidate for US President. In reality, you are an extremist who would be shunned by a larger audience and will not be judged lightly or with favor in the end.

  2. Advocator said on 8 Feb 2008 at 12:02 pm:
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    The chairman of BOCS of Fairfax Sanctuary County is running for Tom Davis’ seat so he can extend the sanctuary policy nationwide.

  3. Patty said on 8 Feb 2008 at 12:14 pm:
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    Advocator,

    You beat me to it. You took the words right out of my mouth.

    Connolly and Saslaw make a pair. Don’t they?

    Tar and feathers are too good for them.

  4. Anonymous said on 8 Feb 2008 at 12:20 pm:
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    Thank you Valley Girl for those first two paragraphs.

  5. Pat Herve said on 8 Feb 2008 at 12:46 pm:
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    That is one of the problems when you have a blog like this and all the Headline topics are created by one person - you get their spin (good and bad) on the topics.

    Greg has also said that No One wants to prevent illegal immigrants from going to the library - but in fact Stirrup wants to prevent an illegal immigrant from getting such services - and firing the county employee that provides that service. Sounds a little Gestapo to me.

  6. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 8 Feb 2008 at 12:48 pm:
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    Why would an illegal alien get ANY BENEFITS????

  7. Angry Blackman! said on 8 Feb 2008 at 12:50 pm:
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    I disagree with Valley Girl! HSM and Greg is doing a great service for our area.

  8. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 8 Feb 2008 at 12:50 pm:
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    Benefits of any kind keep illegals coming for more! Are you liberals MORONS or something??? Did you not learn from the 1986 amnesty? You liberals are like people who keep giving an alcoholic a drink because they get angry someone told them to stop drinking!

  9. Patty said on 8 Feb 2008 at 12:53 pm:
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    VG,

    Fact is, all the candidates were bad on illegal immigration, including Huckabee. All were bad. Tom Tancredo was the only one credible on the issue. He and maybe a couple of others who are strong on the issue just didn’t have the money. Unfortunately money talks in campaigns. Look what Hillary had to do.

    Don’t forget that the phone lines on Capitol Hill suffered a melt down over the amnesty bill which was killed.

  10. Mando said on 8 Feb 2008 at 1:39 pm:
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    I’m not sure what rock valleygirl has been under, but nationally, illegal immagration is the number 2 issue (economy being number 1) for conservative voters.

    In case she hasn’t noticed, there’s been alot of hubub on the national news about conservatives displeasure with McCain. Particularly with his tag-team effort with Kennedy.

    Gladly, I CAN claim the majority of Americans are against amnesty. If that weren’t the case, amnesty would’ve already been granted.

  11. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 8 Feb 2008 at 2:11 pm:
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    I guess “oh my god…totally”! Valley Girl was at the mall during the summer amnesty bill sessions.

  12. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 8 Feb 2008 at 2:14 pm:
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    http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/15253690/detail.html
    I cannot wait for this to start happening here….let’s start with the restaurants (including McDonalds), landscapers, construction companies, maid services, etc. Let’s get started now!

  13. anon said on 8 Feb 2008 at 2:29 pm:
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    VG - why don’t you try a little experiment. Go spend a few days of quality time with some illegals - they are not hard to find, just look for groups of 5 or more loitering, drunk hispanics. Hang out with them day and night and try to get to know them. Then report back to us on how fast it took for you to become a victim of sexual assault, etc. - if you survive.

  14. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 8 Feb 2008 at 2:48 pm:
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    Has McAmnesty signed the pledge for no amnesty at numbersusa? Ron Paul and Huck did….

  15. Krutis said on 8 Feb 2008 at 2:51 pm:
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    I went to H-Mart in Fairfax today. Had a tough time getting answers in English; everyone working in the store was Korean.

    The store was great, though. Fantastic veggies, fruit, fish, and more kinds of meat cuts than I’ve ever seen plus dried everthing. Big bag of crab legs for 5, 95! Bet 95% of the customers were Koreans. Just thought I’d throw in a different nationality for a change.

  16. Valley Girl said on 8 Feb 2008 at 2:54 pm:
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    “In case she hasn’t noticed, there’s been a lot of hubub on the national news about conservatives displeasure with McCain. Particularly with his tag-team effort with Kennedy.

    Gladly, I CAN claim the majority of Americans are against amnesty. If that weren’t the case, amnesty would’ve already been granted.”

    This argument might require a greater degree of attention to detail than is usually demonstrated here. I am not making the case that a majority of conservatives are against comp. immigration reform. I am arguing that a majority of Americans are not against it. Significant difference.

    First of all - we could spend hours debating what a “conservative” is. In case you haven’t noticed (speaking of too much time at the mall - or perhaps staking out your neighbors homes for tell-tale signs of rooms for rent) there is not a lot of consensus among Republicans about what “conservative” means anymore. I am going to make an assumption about what Mando defines as a conservative, and that he is referring to the minority of the current Republican Party, as evidenced by the fact that McCain has won a majority thus far and is being rejected by same “conservatives”

    The Democrats, and I am not one, have had a significantly larger turnout than the Republicans thus far, further arguing my case that a majority of Americans are NOT against comprehensive immigration reform, as both of their candidates support it.

    In addition, if comprehensive immigration reform was so completely contrary to American sentiment it would have gone down by far greater margins than it did. And yes, congratulations on the impressive mobilization and call in campaign against immigration reform, but even that certainly not prove a majority. In relation to the entire US voting population, the number of irate call-ins was a small fraction, and we don’t know how many times an individual called in. Don’t mistake an active segment of the population as being a majority.

    Illegal immigration may be the second, third, or fourth most important issue in the election, but you can hardly gleam from that that opposition to comp. immigration reform is what is driving it. After all, who isn’t concerned about illegal immigration? It is an important issue.

    Far be it for me to disturb this echo chamber that is obviously so gratifying for so many of you.

    Carry on then.

  17. Krutis said on 8 Feb 2008 at 2:55 pm:
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    Anon 2:29 seems to be showing a slight bias. - Is there an age limit for being sexually assaulted, I wonder? No, no, I’m not considering hanging out - just curious, that’s all.

  18. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 8 Feb 2008 at 3:00 pm:
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    valleygirl said on 8 Feb 2008 at 12:00 pm:

    If this blog bothers you so much, why are you here?
    ____________________________________

    Pat Herve said on 8 Feb 2008 at 12:46 pm:

    Why do ILLEGAL aliens deserve any services? Do they pay for them? Sales tax doesn’t count, property taxes do.
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    Angry Blackman! said on 8 Feb 2008 at 12:50 pm:

    It has been proven by the emails that have been sent using the Save the Old Dominion site. HSM will continue to expose those who are for allowing ILLEGAL aliens to continue to live among us.
    _________________________________________

    Mando said on 8 Feb 2008 at 1:39 pm:

    And I am sure more is to come as the election draws near!!
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    Patriot,

    “About 40, including the elderly and those with children, were released to await a hearing before an immigration judge, Kice said.”

    They are in the wind. They will never show up. We have to stop this catch and release. I hope the other 80 are removed.

    I agree about McD’s. It is hard to order nowadays.

  19. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 8 Feb 2008 at 3:01 pm:
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    VG….please provide your research to back up your claim! We all eagerly await your credible information.

  20. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 8 Feb 2008 at 3:02 pm:
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    I wouldn’t touch any food that is touched by people who’s status is questionable (illegal aliens are not medically screened).

  21. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 8 Feb 2008 at 3:11 pm:
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    The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 8 Feb 2008 at 3:02 pm:

    Doesn’t the health department require a TB test for food handlers? I know they did in IL back when. I would think in light of today’s diseases, they would be even more relevant than before.

  22. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 8 Feb 2008 at 3:17 pm:
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    Medic, I am sure with the turnover rate of workers, MCDs and other restaurants turn a blind eye to that requirement. Additionally, all food handlers should be wearing gloves while preparing/serving food….how many employees do you see doing this? Not many.

  23. Krutis said on 8 Feb 2008 at 3:24 pm:
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    TP - “I wouldn’t touch food…” - When you buy lettuce, do you ask somebody (whom would you ask?) whether the stoop laborer out in Salinas or the Central Valley was illegal or not? The people who loaded into the ice storage, wrapped it in plastic? And what about the people who handled the plastic before it got to the lettuce? Really, if that is patriotism, then you can have it!

    Maybe you even wear a surgical mask so as not to breath the air expelled by illigal aliens. You just never know who is one, do you? You must be a nervous wreck worrying.

  24. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 8 Feb 2008 at 3:29 pm:
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    Krutis, I can wash lettuce, I cannot wash a burger. Let me know if you know a way that that is possible. Maybe if you were ever exposed to TB you would think twice about what you said…you moron!

  25. josh said on 8 Feb 2008 at 3:34 pm:
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    you need a TB skin test to handle food, you also have to attend a food handlers course for any job that requires touching food. I’m not sure about the enforcement here in Virginia and how they handle things.

    Personally I avoid Mcdonalds or places like that. I know the ones around my neck of the woods that are populated with illegals. There happens to be one mcdonalds that has english speaking employee’s working. I dont go often, but if I get the urge then I got to that one.

  26. josh said on 8 Feb 2008 at 4:05 pm:
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    I was exposed to TB . It got me 6-months of medication and monthly chest X-Rays to ensure I didnt catch it. Luckily I didnt catch the disease but the preventative treatment was not very pleasant. The medication messed my stomach up for 6-months for sure.

  27. Krutis said on 8 Feb 2008 at 4:17 pm:
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    TP - I have always reacted positive to TB tests and have scar tissue on my lungs, but can’t remember actually having been sick. Yes, I know it’s serious. However, I don’t think that you get TB from hands, and I don’t like hamburgers (except home-cooked ones).

    - Eating out is always riskfilled, no matter WHERE you eat, but it’s quite rare that someone gets sick from food in restaurants. Most common reasons are homemade potato and egg salads at family picnics, it seems.

    It would be so nice if you’d stop calling me a moron. Valentine’s Day is coming, so a little kindness would be appreciated, at least for the next week. OK?

  28. Ducky said on 8 Feb 2008 at 4:21 pm:
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    Valley Girl, very well-stated comments.

    Illegal who do commit crimes here should be deported after their jail terms. No one has suggested otherwise.

  29. josh said on 8 Feb 2008 at 4:25 pm:
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    Krutis,

    If you’ve tested positive on a test then you’ve been exposed, that should get you at least 6-months of INH treatment and a dose of chest-xrays. you also cannot take the skin test anymore

    j

  30. Johnson said on 8 Feb 2008 at 4:39 pm:
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    http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Mexican_President:_Illega/2008/02/07/70898.html

    They’re watching us.

  31. Krutis said on 8 Feb 2008 at 4:42 pm:
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    josh 4:25 - Thanks for your concern, but I’m OK. Certificate from a couple of doctors say that I most likely was exposed as a very young child, which can leave scar tissue without me being a carrier.

  32. starryflights said on 8 Feb 2008 at 4:48 pm:
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    If you are an illegal alien in this country and you are working, then you ARE committing a crime and you ARE a criminal. It is ILLEGAL to BE in this country ILLEGALLY and it is ILLEGAL for any ILLEGAL ALIEN to WORK in this country.

  33. BattleCat said on 8 Feb 2008 at 4:57 pm:
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    Valleygirl,

    As far as Greg being ANY kind of “reporter”, note he includes the link to the source so you can read for yourself and form your own opinion. BVBL does not pretend to be a news site. There are dozens and dozens of liberal media clearinghouses for you to browse. Blogs are for opinions, everyone knows that. The only reason I can possibly see for your post is to stir things up. Good luck with that.

  34. Mando said on 8 Feb 2008 at 5:01 pm:
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    @ Leila

    Before you set up your strawman, your argument was since McCain is likely to get the republican nomination and from there become the next president, those voting for him in the primaries are not concerced with illegal immigration and thusly Greg was beating a drum that very few are actually listening to. That was your point right? The post is there for us to refer back to.

    So, gleaning some meat from your paragraphs of strawman, my counter is thus:

    McCain has done nothing but APPOLOGIZE for his bad judgement on his so called immigration reform. He now realizes there can be no reform without securing the borders first. That from the guys mouth.

    Now, if we go back to your original assumption being McCain will win because the majority of Americans or ok with his original brand of reform, again, why all the hubbab from him about his bad previous decision? Why all the strife?

    Also, I would like any BVBL poster to say they are against *sound* immigration reform to make their voices heard. I’m confident that we are all for *sound* immigration reform.

    Strawman burned.

    Oh, and Leila, Ducky says “hi” from the echo chamber.

  35. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 8 Feb 2008 at 5:10 pm:
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    From Johnson’s article:

    He (Calderon) also told the Times that Americans would “sooner or later” come to understand that the health of the American economy is linked to integration with Mexico and “greater freedom in labor markets.”
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    I do not think this is going to happen in light of the laws that have been passed and challenged in the past few months. This is just wishful thinking on his part. This is the prelude to the NAU and the amero. We have to be on guard.

  36. Dolph said on 8 Feb 2008 at 5:24 pm:
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    Josh and crew,

    You do not have to have medical screening or a tb test to handle food in Virginia. I just called to make certain.

    Actually, eating anything nowadays is risky. Who would think someone could get fatally ill from eating spinach for heaven sakes.

  37. Lafayette said on 8 Feb 2008 at 5:29 pm:
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    Dolph,
    I had carry out from the same place you did last night. Look, we are both still here.
    I grow my own veggies in the summer myself or visit the Farmer’s Market. Well, Ms. Rishell won’t be campaigning there this summer at least.

  38. es_la_ley said on 8 Feb 2008 at 6:02 pm:
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    Frog in Salad:

    http://www.neatorama.com/images/2006-08/frog-in-salad-bag.jpg

  39. Lafayette said on 8 Feb 2008 at 6:06 pm:
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    es_la_ley,
    OMG!! I would freak out! Excellent find!
    All must look at that.

  40. es_la_ley said on 8 Feb 2008 at 6:14 pm:
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    :-)

    It may be a hoax. But I bet half of those that see it will check their bags of salad from now on. :-)

  41. Lafayette said on 8 Feb 2008 at 6:23 pm:
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    The hoax possiblity never escaped my mind.
    However, can you imagine seeing “Kermit” looking at you in the grocery store?
    **off topic***
    How’s Playtime Pools looking? Or have you been by there?
    Is it summer yet? :)

  42. josh said on 8 Feb 2008 at 6:23 pm:
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    dolph,

    that’s pretty scary..I remember back when I worked in a deli as a kid I had to get a TB skin test as well as take a food handlers course. They gave you this card that you needed to have in order to work near food. I’m very surprised that VA doesnt have those requirements. Makes me think twice about eating anywhere but my house.

  43. es_la_ley said on 8 Feb 2008 at 6:30 pm:
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    Lafayette,

    Will reply on latest open thread. :-)

  44. Dave in PWC said on 8 Feb 2008 at 6:31 pm:
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    Another “flop house” has a couple of moving trucks in my complex!!! Our water bills will go down now, I hope anyway.

    Greg, thank you for running the blog and I appreciate all you’ve done to bring the invasion out into the open by informing people like me who saw all the day laborers and flop houses but really didn’t have any idea what I could do to help get rid of them. Thanks for providing all the info and thank you to all the people who post the phone numbers and email addresses for me to let my elected officials know what I expect from them as my duly elected voice in government. Please keep on posting stories so we can be kept informed.

  45. anon said on 8 Feb 2008 at 7:53 pm:
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    As far back as the very early 1980s you did not have to have food handler’s cert. or training or TB test in Virginia (I don’t know about earlier than that). You still do not. You also do not have to wear hairnets or gloves. Many people think it is required, but they are incorrect. In fact, the people I’ve seen wearing gloves are far less hygenic about their actions than people without.

    Boy did this thread go astray!

  46. Mr. Anon said on 8 Feb 2008 at 8:15 pm:
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    Actually, in Virginia the law requires that someone in the establishment has to be a certified food handler. I just went through this exercise in my job; we had an on-site cafeteria and the contractor did not have the proper requirements. Unfortunately I learned this becuase one of our employees became sick.

    If you read some of the requirements, it’s amazing how unsanitary many of the fast food restaurants are.

    Lafayette has it right - grow your own food or buy it at the farmer’s market. Canning food is a lost art, unfortunately.

  47. valleygirl said on 8 Feb 2008 at 8:15 pm:
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    “Now, if we go back to your original assumption being McCain will win because the majority of Americans or ok with his original brand of reform, again, why all the hubbab from him about his bad previous decision? Why all the strife?”

    McCain has stated that he now acknowledges that the borders must be secured FIRST, not that he was wrong about comprehensive immigration reform.

    His is right. It is absolutely the first move. No argument here. Until the borders are secured any form of amnesty will be unpalatable to a majority of the American public.

    Please do not interpret my comments as an attempt to invalidate *your* concerns. I am merely disproving the argument that MOST Americans are AGAINST comprehensive immigration reform which would include some form of amnesty. I can even disprove that opposition to comprehensive immigration reform is the definitive “conservative” position. We could play the my study vs. your study game, in which case I am sure we would come up even give that both studies and polls in this issue vary depending on who is asking the question, how they are asking it, and how the answers are then interpreted.

    And though I am generally disinclined to pursue some of the more base comments here, I can say that those concerned with transmittable diseases should be afraid, very afraid. Mexico has a better vaccination coverage rates than the US:(http://www.unicef.org/publications/files/Immunization_Summary_2007.pdf)

    In addition, the US has a greater incidence of HIV transmissions than Latin America.

    A rather disturbing pattern for individuals residing in the US who are concerned with communicable diseases. My advice - duct tape yourselves in your own homes.

  48. valleygirl said on 8 Feb 2008 at 8:27 pm:
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    And to the reporter bit… Clearly Greg is not a reporter, that’s my point. He seems to want to play one on TV, or in this case on his blog. His posts have a hint of journalistic style to them, and he certainly prides himself on providing breaking news. So he provides links to sources, blah, blah, blah, so what? He then goes on to make ludicrous statements such as, “Here’s someone who was an illegal alien, was engaged in identity fraud, and then apparently graduated from petty crimes all the way up to murder”.
    At what point in the article did it state that that the individual in question committed murder? How do you go from “wanted for questioning” to murderer? Even if that is jsut his opinion, shoudln’t that mkae his opinions somewhat questionable?
    This stuff would not go far with a less partial audience. He would have to raise his standards, raise his game.

  49. valleygirl said on 8 Feb 2008 at 8:42 pm:
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    And my name is not Lelia, it is Laura, and I chose valleygirls not because I like malls but because I grew up in the shenandoah valley.

  50. monticup said on 8 Feb 2008 at 9:06 pm:
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    Why are illegal aliens using our libraries? Is it for loitering purposes? I know what they do in Centreville.

    Valleygirl, I think you’d be happier if you were involved with another blog. We are not your cup of tea. Go find a pro amnesty, pro NAU site.

  51. Leila in the PRA said on 8 Feb 2008 at 9:11 pm:
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    ValleyGirl, thanks for clearing that up. Mando at 5:01 PM was obviously addressing you not me since I had not posted. I enjoy your lucid writing.

    You stated you are not a Democrat, so are you a McCain Republican or some other third-way political tendency? I am wondering if you believe the border can be secured, ie. not whether or not it is desirable, but whether there is any likelihood it could be achieved given the limited proposal, the lack of personnel, etc. McCain’s full-fledged support for Bush’s war is also an impediment.

  52. valleygirl said on 8 Feb 2008 at 9:23 pm:
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    I think that the border will never be totally secured. Where there’s a will there’s a way, right? I think we can ceratinly do a better job of it but a wall is a shortsighted solution that will never work though the idea and it’s literalness seems to make some folks feel more secure, but mistakenly so. I think that true border control involves a much more comprehensive effort :) It would involve better technology, some work in countiries of origin, some cooperation with the DEA, more proactive investigative work targeting traffickers, and finally, more realistic quotas on legal immigration combined with better employer enforcement.
    I use to think of myself as a Republican, kind of old school Barry Goldwater, less government, fiscal conservatism, etc. Now I am more Independent/Libertarian in my leanings. I am up in the air between McCain and Obama.
    Sssshhhhh…. did you just hear the sound of a dozen toilets flushing after all the regular posters vomited?

  53. Dolph said on 8 Feb 2008 at 10:16 pm:
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    valleygirl,

    Snicker. I thought i heard them. Actually, several folks here have advocated voting for Obama this Tuesday to knock Hillary out of the running. It must not gag them but so much to vote for Obama if they can do this.

    Shenandoah Valley is a good place. Where are you from?

    ~~splash~~

  54. Patty said on 8 Feb 2008 at 10:45 pm:
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    Dolph,

    There you are. I left a message on the school thread for you. I still don’t like any of the candidates. They all wanted amnesty at one time or another. Maybe you can convince Krutis to go back to Krusty. I think the name Krusty sounds more dignified.

  55. Anonymous said on 8 Feb 2008 at 10:52 pm:
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    The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 8 Feb 2008 at 2:11 pm:
    I guess “oh my god…totally”! Valley Girl was at the mall during the summer amnesty bill sessions.

    FER SURRRRE!

  56. 999 said on 8 Feb 2008 at 11:06 pm:
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    Krutis said on 8 Feb 2008 at 3:24 pm:
    When you buy lettuce, do you ask somebody (whom would you ask?) whether the stoop laborer out in Salinas or the Central Valley was illegal or not? The people who loaded into the ice storage, wrapped it in plastic? And what about the people who handled the plastic before it got to the lettuce? Really, if that is patriotism, then you can have it!

    I guess you have a short memory or you were probably at the mall with VG. We had an out break of ecoli (spinach) this past summer and also of packaged salad vegetables. No direct source of this contamination was ever surfaced, only where the “stuff” was grown. Look how many tons of contaminated hamburger have been taken off the shelves. A lot of these meat packing plants have been found to employ illegals. Of course, all of the stoop labor (your words) wear gloves as well as the meatpackers.

  57. Vigilant1 said on 8 Feb 2008 at 11:18 pm:
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    Lafayette,

    Update on my call to property enforcement re the vehicle parked on the grass on Lomond Dr. Got call back from the inspector, he said that the car in question was not there. It was not there the Sunday prior to his call so I assumed it had been removed due to the complaint. In any event, the inspector said he saw a number of other violations that he would check into. He called again yesterday and said he had written up a number of code violations (did not state what was wrong.) I guess the call re the car led to more pertinent problems with the property. Anyway, at least this guy did his job. Things are looking up.

  58. Anonymous said on 8 Feb 2008 at 11:26 pm:
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    valleygirl said on 8 Feb 2008 at 9:23 pm:

    Sssshhhhh…. did you just hear the sound of a dozen toilets flushing after all the regular posters vomited?

    At least they washed their hands! (:

  59. Lafayette said on 9 Feb 2008 at 1:46 am:
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    Vigilant1
    Good! I’m glad to hear they are looking beyond just the complaint received. I had this samething happen with the house at the bottom of the hill on Lomond at the right. They were having yard sales 4 days a week. Go to open thread. I have more on NW.

  60. just some dude said on 9 Feb 2008 at 1:54 am:
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    Hillary Clinton will be at Metz Middle School Sunday, February 10 12:00 noon.

    Clearly, she considers Prince William County and Manassas important for her to win.

    So if you vote for McCain you can still at least vote against Billary.

    Obama ‘08.

  61. just some dude said on 9 Feb 2008 at 2:05 am:
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    that should read “if you can’t vote for McCain…”

  62. Ducky said on 9 Feb 2008 at 5:41 am:
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    A vote for Hillary or Obama is a vote for surrender to Islamic extremism. John McCain is just the man to lead us to victory.

  63. Ducky said on 9 Feb 2008 at 5:55 am:
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    If you would like to see Senator McCain in person to hear his plans to unite our party and win the presidential election, please join others at a campaign rally this Monday, February 11th, at the Virginia Aviation Museum near the Richmond Airport, beginning at 5:30pm. Senator McCain will be there to speak and greet supporters on the eve of the Virginia Primary.

  64. AWCheney said on 9 Feb 2008 at 8:19 am:
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    The fact that you seem to be a big supporter, Ducky, is another reason to think twice before voting for McCain.

  65. Loudoun said on 9 Feb 2008 at 8:32 am:
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    AWC - amen to your opinion on Ducky’s vote for McCain. I am pretty sure that I grew up with Ducky and that he lived on Woodstock in Westgate. He won’t answer my question if he is that same Ducky. If he is, everything he says should be taken with a grain of salt.

  66. Leila in the PRA said on 9 Feb 2008 at 11:43 am:
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    AWCheney, so given that McCain is likely to be the Republican nominee, what does that mean for you? (or for Loudoun for that matter). Would you sit out the November election?

  67. Ducky said on 9 Feb 2008 at 11:45 am:
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    What difference does it make where I grew up? For the record, I grew up in Texas. Do you have anything substantive to say? Go ahead and vote for Obama or HRC, you surrender monkeys.

  68. Leila in the PRA said on 9 Feb 2008 at 11:45 am:
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    PS: I ask because so far I have never sat out an election. I have always gone the lesser of two evils route. So I am curious if all of you damning McCain at the moment will capitulate later.

  69. Anonymous said on 9 Feb 2008 at 12:00 pm:
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    Ducky said on 9 Feb 2008 at 5:41 am:
    A vote for Hillary or Obama is a vote for surrender to Islamic extremism. John McCain is just the man to lead us to victory.

    I think you got it wrong Duckie, a vote for McCain will ensure another 20 million illegals in this country within 10 years.

  70. AWCheney said on 9 Feb 2008 at 12:33 pm:
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    I always vote, Leila, and my vote is private. There is no way that I could cast a vote for either of the Democratic candidates, however. I will vote for whom I would wish to see as President…I’ve always known how to use the write-in function. Perhaps if more people did, this country wouldn’t always have to settle for the “lesser of two evils.” My conscience is clear.

  71. starryflights said on 9 Feb 2008 at 12:42 pm:
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    Has anyone actually gone to Ron Paul’s site and read what he wants to do about illegal immigration. He takes a hard stand and I like what he has to say.

  72. Pat Herve said on 9 Feb 2008 at 1:50 pm:
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    There are many illegal immigrants that are paying the same taxes as you and I. Do they pay property taxes - only if they own their homes - otherwise they rent - just like you and I.

    If they are not paying taxes, well then they must be getting paid in cash - this should be fixed. I always wonder - how does a contractor get enough cash every week to pay his workers - how does that work out. If I withdraw $10k, it gets reported to the feds - how come the irs does not look into a company that withdraws $10’s of thousands in cash every week.

    Secondly - why do we employ the contractor that hires the illegals? WE are paying for those illegals to be here. It is time that WE take on the responsibility of bringing the illegals here - have you ever paid cash for a job to save a few bucks? Well, that is getting around the system (taxes) so that the use of illegal labor can continue.

    Be careful of what you ask for, you might get it…
    Should we deny medical care to illegals - sick people (tb, pneumonia) walking around
    Schools - tweens with nothing to do, roaming the streets (even though the parent *might* be paying the same taxes as you and I).
    Parks - yeah, keep them out of the parks, so that they have no place to enjoy the outdoors.

    Do you really think the immigrants wanted to leave their homes and countries - WE BROUGHT THEM HERE. We did it. They left to get a better life economically, and some will return home, but the fact is, that WE brought them here, because we wanted cheaper labor. Our youth does not want to mow lawns (or their parents do not want them to) - So YOU (and I) are the reason why the illiegal immigrant is here, and will continue to stay until WE stop using them.

    This is not a liberal/conservitive issue by the way.

    What did the Conservitive Replicans in Virginia do in 2006/2007 to stop the influx of illegal immigrants?
    What did the Conservitive Replicans in Manassas do in 2006/2007 to stop the influx of illegal immigrants?
    What did the Conservitive Replicans in PWC do in 2006/2007 to stop the influx of illegal immigrants (other than 1 unfunded initiative)?
    What did the Conservitive Replicans in the US Sentate do in 2006/2007 to stop the influx of illegal immigrants?
    What did the Conservitive Replicans in US House do in 2006/2007 to stop the influx of illegal immigrants?
    What did the Conservitive Replicans in US Presidential Suite do in 2006/2007 to stop the influx of illegal immigrants?
    What did the YOU do in 2006/2007 to stop the influx of illegal immigrants?

    Blame it on the liberals, but the liberals were not/are not in charge. Get with the program people, this is a bipartisan issue of doing nothing - do you know how much of our economy is being driven by illegal immigration?

  73. monticup said on 9 Feb 2008 at 2:00 pm:
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    Pat Herve: Do you know how much of our economy goes to supporting medical care, food stamps, education, law enforcement, etc. for illegal aliens?
    It is a net LOSS for the US. Deport all illegal aliens. We will adjust.

    Anonymous at 12:00: Ducky wants MORE illegal aliens. I wonder why?

  74. Bridget said on 9 Feb 2008 at 3:20 pm:
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    http://prosandcons.us/?p=5905

  75. silverfox said on 9 Feb 2008 at 5:50 pm:
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    “they’re watching us!” Understatement. Of course we’re being watched, recorded and tracked. The SPP has scheduled a meeting for April, 2008 hosted in New Orleans.

    We must stop the squabbling and not get distracted with the details of illegal aliens but stay focused on the issue of illegal aliens. www.StopSPP.com. Track them!!

    You may be interested in knowing that a state legislator in Utah has introduced a resolution encouraging the U.S. to withdraw from the Security Prosperity Partnership of North America and any other bilateral activity that would move the country toward an EU-style continental merger.

    And, I’ve learned John McCain was born aboard a U.S. naval ship in the Panama Canal making him ‘not’ U.S. born disqualifying him for the Office of the President. Anyone out there know about this?

  76. starryflights said on 9 Feb 2008 at 6:13 pm:
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    I did know that McCain was born in Panama, while his father was in the military. I wondered why this wasn’t brought up, since I have two children born abroad, under similar circumstances and always thought that this would need to be resolved if someone in a like situation ever decided to run for POTUS. That this is being ignored has my radar up.

  77. Mike Austin said on 9 Feb 2008 at 7:33 pm:
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    I be;ieve this linked story is about the Chantilly murder:
    http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/reports/reports2007/072807homicide.htm

  78. Anonistutional said on 9 Feb 2008 at 9:26 pm:
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    I’m not a McCainite, but his birthplace issue has hardly been ignored. It has been asked and answered. He’s fine, thanks to the 1790 First Congress.

    See, for example, http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=1099

    It was also dealt with back in 1998 by the Post. Feel free to stop scanning the skies for black helicopters. And those aluminum hats probably won’t do you any good either.

  79. Bridget said on 10 Feb 2008 at 7:55 am:
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    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966411/posts

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1967613/posts

  80. NoVA Scout said on 13 Feb 2008 at 10:45 pm:
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    Monticup: What’s the dollar figure on the “net loss” ? Most of the data I’ve seen show a significant net surplus on the economic impact of illegal immigration. That doesn’t mean that we don’t need comprehensive federal immigration reform (we all really want a situation where all immigration is legal and regulated), but your comment is a bit of an anomaly in asserting that we’re disadvantaged economically by illegal immigration.

  81. 999 said on 14 Feb 2008 at 9:13 am:
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    NoVA Scout said on 13 Feb 2008 at 10:45 pm:
    Monticup: What’s the dollar figure on the “net loss” ? Most of the data I’ve seen show a significant net surplus on the economic impact of illegal immigration.

    The following excerpt is from The Center for Immigration Studies. The full articles can be found at:
    http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscaltranscript.html

    The Costs of Illegal Immigration:
    The Impact of Illegal Aliens on the Federal Budget

    Panel Discussion Transcript

    August 25, 2004
    National Press Club
    Washington, D.C.

    Now, to estimate what would happen if illegals got legal status, we assume that illegals, if given this green card, they would begin to pay taxes and use services, like households headed by legal immigrants, with the same characteristics in terms of educational attainment. We also control for whether the household is from Mexico.

    So what did we find? Looking first at households headed by illegal aliens, we found that they paid on average $4,200 a year to the federal government for a total of about $16 billion a year in 2002 — certainly not a trivial sum. However, we also found that they imposed costs on the federal government of nearly $7,000 a year, or $26.3 billion. This means that the net fiscal deficit created by illegal households was $10.4 billion, or $2,700 per household. Put differently, illegal aliens imposed $10.4 billion more in costs than they paid in taxes.

  82. AWCheney said on 14 Feb 2008 at 10:17 am:
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    …and that’s only the FEDERAL cost. I can well imagine what the local and state cost would add to that!

  83. sergio said on 20 Feb 2008 at 8:19 pm:
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    is it true that the kid was kid nap

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