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Sen. Clinton is Coming to Manassas
By RHarrison | 9 February 2008 | National Politics | 143 Comments
It looks like Hillary Clinton will be at Metz Middle School tomorrow (Sunday) at 1:00 pm. Yippy.
Either her campaign is desperate or they don’t know much about Virginia politics. Probably both. Manassas is one of the most Republican jurisdictions in Northern Virginia. She isn’t going to win here in November unless the election is a huge blow-out, which is unlikely. So she’s not going to pick up many votes by coming here.
On the other hand, the polls show that she’s about to lose the state by a huge margin to Sen. Obama, so maybe she thinks conservative jurisdictions like Manassas will give her some unexpected votes. It is possible. With the Republican race settled, some of those primary votes might drift elsewhere. Clinton is the less liberal of the two, so I guess that could work, but those votes are unlikely to help her in November.
I understand there will be a counter-event tomorrow, just to make sure Ms. Clinton, the media and her supporters know where Manassas stands. It won’t be a huge thing, just a quiet reminder that this is not Clinton country. If anyone is interested in participating, show up at Metz around 12:30 and look for the McCain signs.
It should be fun.
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Well…with the McCain signs out, it should not only be fun but also hypocritical since I have heard nothing but McCain bashing since logging on this blog for the past several months.
I do hope that there is a demonstration permit since Metz is in the City of Manasssas. After all, we all do believe in the rule of law, don’t we? I am sure the local Democrats will be asking to see the permit.
Hillary and Obama are EQUALLY liberal. She is not less liberal than Obama.
She is gonna kick Mac’s butt
Clinton is LESS liberal. What kind of nonsense is that? Sound like weak or reaching rhetoric to me. Anything to sustantiate that?
JimmyV said on 9 Feb 2008 at 4:34 pm:
“She is gonna kick Mac’s butt”
Yea, but who cares? You’ll get the same crap from all of them. Hitlery, Hussein, and McNutjob are all equally worthless pond scum. When it comes down to picking the lesser of all evils, there’s no choice. They’re all bad.
Give me a freaking break - McCain is nowhere near as liberal as Hillary or Obama.
JimmyV said on 9 Feb 2008 at 4:34 pm:
She is gonna kick Mac’s butt
It needs to be kicked and I would like to do it myself.
Anonymous said on 9 Feb 2008 at 5:52 pm:
“Give me a freaking break - McCain is nowhere near as liberal as Hillary or Obama.”
Okay, I’ll give you a freakin break, and I’ll raise you a freakin idea….
In the election for the POTUS, we will have a choice between voting for a liberal Democrat, or a liberal Republican. Either is vile, IMHO.
I understand these items will be for sale during her visit:
http://hillarynutcracker.com/completelynuts.html
Maybe Hillary will go over to the 7-11 at Coverstone for a cup of coffee.
Now Patty, THAT was funny.
Maybe she will pimp Bill out?
Hillary is coming to Chesapeake in the 4th Congressional District…that is the third most Republican area in that District. She is clearly going after the white Democrat vote in White Jurisdictions….She would be wasting her time campaigning in Norfolk, Richmond, Portsmouth, Sussex, Eastern Henrico…get the idea? I aint saying its sound for her to do this, still it IS what she is doing. The White vote is about all she is going to get…and as of last week, that vote is going for Hussein by 35% to 40%
Rocket J. Squirrel said on 9 Feb 2008 at 6:07 pm:
Love the nutcracker!
Gladiator said on 9 Feb 2008 at 6:24 pm:
Maybe she will pimp Bill out?
Pimp? Bill?
LMAO!
Rocket J. Squirrel said on 9 Feb 2008 at 6:07 pm:
“I understand these items will be for sale during her visit:
http://hillarynutcracker.com/completelynuts.html”
I will buy some of those and give them to my moonbat in-laws as Christmas presents. That way, they’ll be so mad at me they’ll never want to visit my house again.
Problem solved.
My, my, my. What an intelligent, enlightened exhange of comments! My moronic (according the the patriot) mind can’t absorb it all. Greg says there’ll be a “counter-event that should be fun” tomorrow. Salivating, are you, Greg? Hoping for a confrontation, or what?
As for you schmucks who still think that the nutcrackers are fun (?); there’s no word for you that would be accepted even here.
If it’s true that Clinton is coming to enemy country, I think it shows that she has a lot of guts. Doesn’t any of you agree on that? Daniel in the lions’ den, as it were. (I think it was Daniel, but I’m not sure)
Patty 6:09 pm- Why don’t you invite her to your house for coffee? You might learn something. She’s a legal citizen, so it wouldn’t taint your standing in the community at all. Or would it?
Krutis: “My moronic (according the the patriot) mind can’t absorb it all.”
That pretty much sums it up.
Krutis, well, I’m a liberal schmuck then, because my husband and I probably have the biggest collection of 3D political crapola in PWC and the nutcracker is in it as well as parodies of Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, both Bushes, Castro, Carter, and dozens of others.
anonymoustoo - That’s great. I have nothing against 3D crappola at all. I have Reagan and Agnew handpuppets. What bugs me is the zeroing in on Clinton’s nutcracker.
FYI, I have buttons with Humphrey/Muskie, McGovern, Vanilla Ice (?), Free South Africa, and STEVENSON. Remember him? Heard about him? 1952! He tried to beat Eisenhower. Twice!
I also have a button with this inscription: “call 1-703-NORTH-NO!” That’s when Ollie tried to become senator. Our Marine hero who only did what he was told. Cakes and bibles to Iran; Hasenfuss shot down, Liddy, etc., etc.
Sorry, going down memory lane. At my age, it’s easy to do.
krutis: “What bugs me is the zeroing in on Clinton’s nutcracker.”
Why?
es-la-ley 8:29 - As an experienced parent and grandparent my answer is :”Just because it DOES”.
One voice: What are you saying? Please clarify. Please show how Clinton is less liberal than Obama.
Krutis: “As an experienced parent and grandparent my answer is :”Just because it DOES”.”
Now you’re the schmuck.
es-la-ley 8:57 - Now there is ONE thing we can agree on!
Good night!
Ms. Krutis, “Just because it DOES,” is a fine answer and has served me well for years. It is first cousins with the answer: JUST IS.
Krutis,
I don’t drink coffee. I drink root beer.
By the way, I still think the name Krusty is more dignified than Krutis. The name Krutis sounds crude. Unless you want to give the impression that you are crude.
Hillary wouldn’t come to my house. It’s not big enough for her entourage.
In fact that is probably why she is going to Metz.
I wonder if Chief Deane and Chief Skinner will clean up the town before she gets here. They’ll probably suggest that she fly over Manassas Park. Too much cultural diversity there. Now you know if her people gave Chief Deane a heads up that she was going to stop for coffee at the Coverstone 7-11, he’d clean up that area faster than you can wink an eye. Of course she could fly directly to Metz. West Gate Witch and Woodstock could give her an escort. We wouldn’t want her to suffer any ill effects from too much cultural diversity.
Krutis,
I have to ask. Do you remember the guy on the Johnny Carson show years ago whose thing was making anagrams and he did the anagram of Spiro Agnew? The look on Johnny’s face was hilarious!
Well folks,
Hillary’s getting her butt swatted tonight!
“Hillary’s getting her butt swatted tonight!”
Well, that ought to turn everyone on.
Krutis said on 9 Feb 2008 at 7:46 pm:
My, my, my. What an intelligent, enlightened exhange of comments!
To paraphrase another’s words:
LIGHTEN UP, KRUTIS, BABY!
Krutis,
I just read your one post….you could probably ditch the Vanilla Ice button.
Quick, somebody invite all the illegal aliens, tell them there are free tortillas and beer over at Metz at 1 PM.
i’ll vote for that b**** before mcamnesty
A vote for Hillary or Obama is a vote of surrender to Islamic terrorists. Don’t be a surrender monkey.
well i write-in huckabee or romney in the general
Why is she coming to this city? Are there any city officials who are Democrats? I don’t think that even the school board has any out of the closet Dems on it. Do they? If not I am surprised they let her use their school for this.
What is it about your group? You have such a problem with tolerance of other people’s perspectives; you can’t even let our side have a town hall meeting in peace.
Is it you are sore losers?? Most of the racist anti-immigrant candidates are gone - what a shame!
You’ve had many victories this year. Adolf Hitler would be proud of you.
Just let us have our day.
Guerrita: “racist anti-immigrant….Adolf Hitler would be proud of you.” Yes, I can see you’re very tolerant.
Guerrita,
We aren’t intolerant of other people’s perspectives. We insist on the RULE OF LAW. Something you illegal alien apologists don’t seem to understand.
EVERY COUNTRY HAS BORDERS. Every non-third world country has immigration laws.
This isn’t about racism. This is about illegal aliens who have invaded our country with total disregard for our immigration laws. We all support legal immigration here.
What we do not support is ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.
This isn’t racist or anti-immigrant, nor are we Nazis.
Sore losers? What have we lost? The only thing we lose is 3 billion dollars a year of the American taxpayers money -which is what it costs us to have you here.
What would we like to lose? Those 12 - 20 million or more of you invading lawbreakers - demanding rights to which you aren’t entitled.
If you don’t like it here - go home! We didn’t invite you here. And we aren’t separating families. Illegal aliens choose to come here - and they are certainly free to leave and take their children with them.
In fact, we respectfully request that you all get the hell out of our country.!
Loudoun
We are losing $3billion dollars - then shouldn’t we be getting a check from someone for the 60 that have been deported from PWC? Or do we have to deport more? Do you know what the threshold is; how many do we have to deport to get our money back? I think this money is what folks here think should pay for all this immigration stuff and I agree.
I just can’t figure out when we start receiving it. Do you know?
Krutis @ 7:46…..you better believe that I agree with you 150%. Hillary is
the one who is qualified to clean up the mess being left behind by Bush, just
as her husband cleaned up the mess left by the older Bush. Is there any-
one here willing to recall the huge surplus left by Clinton, only to be
squandered by Bush? I like my money too much to turn the economy
over to McCain (who most likely can’t even balance his check book) or to
Obama (who has zero experience and is, IMO, poorly qualified to run this
country). Obama has promised to fix all our ills; stop the war, heal the
economy, give us the health care system we desperately need, etc., but
he doesn’t tell us HOW he will do this! I’m surprised that he hasn’t said he
will put an end to the tornadoes and the fires which often ravage our
country. What will he do about the illegals who are destroying us?
Dolph is correct….most of what we have read here about McCain has been
very negative. I am not a name-caller, but if I were, I would have some
doozies.
A better wordsmith than I has articulated what I see happening right here in PWC. You are practicing destructive behavior; you are simply grinding down the community.
This particular paragraph addresses what radio talk show has done to the Republican party. Heed.
“With their inflexibility, grudge-holding and eagerness to evict heretics rather than seek converts, too many of conservatism’s leaders sound like the custodians of a dwindling religious denomination or a politically correct English department at a fading liberal-arts college. “
Gone Fishing said on 10 Feb 2008 at 10:06 am:
What will he do about the illegals who are destroying us?
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Did you see Tio Teddy’s endorsement last week out in LA. You would have thought he was in Central America or Mexico the was he was pandering to the Latinos. Do you really think he is going to go against Tio Teddy if he gets re-elected. Kennedy wants total amnesty for all illegals including the criminals as was demonstrated in the McCain/Kennedy comprehensive immigration bill. Thank God it was defeated. McCain is no better. If he gets elected (very doubtful) he will do the same and give total amnesty to all illegals. There is no one running now that will contain the problem or fix it other than giving amnesty and then have another 10-20 come across the border in ten years to get “theirs.”
Corr- If he gets elected (very doubtful)……….
Guerrita said on 10 Feb 2008 at 09:06 am:
Just let us have our day.
You and your ilk have had more than your day. HEAD ‘EM UP AND MOVE ‘EM OUT. HASTA LA VISTA, BABY!
One Voice - this is how the deportation process works:
The illegal alien serves his/her jail time. The costs for their jail time cannot be added to the costs for the RULE OF LAW resolution. Every convicted criminal, regardless of citizenship status, must first serve their time.
The costs incurred by deporting them are nil. After the illegal alien serves his/her time, ICE will come and get them. We don’t pay the deportation costs - the feds do. ICE picks them up within 72 hours - and then they deport them. So our costs only include the 24-72 hours of holding them in the jail awaiting deportation. Of that 24-72 hours that we hold them, the state gets reimbursed for a portion of that. The last figure I read was $84 per day, for which the state is reimbursed, and I think they give us 35%.
The cost benefit of having them deported increases exponentially. It saves lives (they can’t commit murder if they aren’t here), it reduces crime (they can’t rape, commit identify theft, steal, commit hit and runs, damage personal property), it reduces traffic congestion, it reduces overcrowding in homes and in schools (if the remainder of their family goes with them), etc…
The cost to PWC Hospital alone last year as a result of the illegal aliens was $15 million. If they aren’t here, they won’t be using the emergency room for their “free” medical visits. That $15 million for PWC Hospital is passed on to the tax-paying Americans whose insurance costs go up in order to pay for the medical services of illegal aliens….
What it comes down to is costs are nil. Benefits are huge…
Damn people, there is a lot more to this than illegals! Get of the one subject.
off the one subject
Well, I did hear that ICE was now taking up to two weeks. Okay, I was under the mistaken impression that the costs savings to PWC for illegals would be returned and could be used for enforcment. Thanks for clearing that up.
Loudoun - I agree we have to arrest and jail but lets not put it out there that cost are nil. Major Melitis in his address to the BOCS last Tuesday said that it cost $75.00 a day to house someone at the jail. Once the resoultion is acted on and the police start arresting traffic violators who are illegal aliens and start puting them in jail the cost are going to be felt. As ICE and Metlitis have both said the problem is not going to be money it is going to be bed space. The jail already has more PWC inmates in other jails than in the Manassas ADC.
One Voice:
You have such a sly way of misstating the facts. The cost savings will be returned - not in the form of a check - but the County will be spending less money on the services provided to illegal aliens and their children. When they leave, because we are no longer going to look the other way about their illegal status, the county saves money. Less money going out to pay for illegal aliens and their children. Less crime, murder, rape, theft, costs for educating their ESOL children…
“The cost benefit of having them deported increases exponentially. It saves lives (they can’t commit murder if they aren’t here), it reduces crime (they can’t rape, commit identify theft, steal, commit hit and runs, damage personal property), it reduces traffic congestion, it reduces overcrowding in homes and in schools (if the remainder of their family goes with them), etc…”
Area 51:
I do understand that the jail is full and that the jail costs money. We will get reimbursed for a small portion of their stay in the jail until ICE deports them. But the illegals are leaving PWC - which saves PWC money.
JimmyV:
This topic is important because all of the three presidential contenders are for amnesty. Our country cannot survive the influx of another amnesty of 12 to 20 million or more illegal aliens. We can’t even take care of our own citizens who are poor, hungry, and some jobless.
America will no longer be America - it will be many hyphenated Americas, and our melting pot will be gone. America and what makes us the greatest nation on the face of the earth will be no more.
Oh, not sly, dear, just direct. Which county services will see a reduction in costs? Those agencies should return that money to the general pot for re-distribution and to pay for illegal immigration costs. Just trying to follow the money, sweetie.
Check out Michelle Malkins site. Frightening. Richard Lamm lays it all out.
www.michellemalkin.com
What a bunch of sad, angry losers. You put the nasty in Manasty… You put the @sshole in Man@sshole. Just a bunch of two-toothed hicks. Manassas was making a comeback until you made the place so nasty that the only folks who would want to live there are poor, illiterate, illegal immigrants. Make a mountain of garbage (Manassas) and the garbage pickers will come. Maybe if that place wasn’t so gosh-darn ugly with all those crappy 70’s tract houses you could do a little better. You made the sh!thole… Now wallow in it
One Voice
I am neither your “dear” nor your “sweetie.” I am sure the biggest county agencies would be the health department, social services, and welfare. They all may be under the same agency. I am no expert on budgets - I work in the legal field - but all of the money comes out of the budget, so if the money isn’t spent, it remains county money. Correct?
Bob Vigierie - my house is a beautiful, brick, six-bedroom, four bathroom Hyltonian - not a tract house. Have you ever been to Manassas? The majority of our homes are brick and well-built. Hardly tract houses… If you would like to come visit my home, please let me know. I would be more than happy to show it to you. You could have proof that we don’t live in crappy 70’s tract houses.
I have all of my teeth, as well. I visit the dentist every six-months. I even bathe on a daily basis! And I am not married to my brother or my cousin.
Care to drop by for a visit? The only @sshole is you.
Hillary Cries Again!!!!
What a WonderWoman! Crying her way to the White House?
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//080209/480/37e15e00cf584d47971c72ac6b53fa95/
Monticup - excellent post. Multiculturalism is destroying America.
Guerrita,
What is it about your group? Do you know the first thing about 1930s and 40s Germany? You can’t make a point without invoking Nazis or Hitler. We didn’t make it about race, we didn’t call our goup “la raza”. It’s about law, plain and simple (I’ve been to latin america enough to know that’s a strange concept there, you are used to “corruption”)
You can have your day. But if you’re here illegally, have it someplace else!
Loudoun said on 10 Feb 2008 at 11:41 am:
One Voice
I am neither your “dear” nor your “sweetie.” I am sure the biggest county agencies would be the health department, social services, and welfare. They all may be under the same agency. I am no expert on budgets - I work in the legal field - but all of the money comes out of the budget, so if the money isn’t spent, it remains county money. Correct?
You are clearly more knowledgable than I being “in the legal field”. I will use this information when I contact my supervisor! I try to respond to snide comment with kindness; will keep in mind in the future that kindness is not appreciated.
Thanks!
Those “gosh-darn ugly with all those crappy 70’s tract houses” are made from brick. Copper pipes….. hot water heat (some)…..
They would survive a fire much better than the $800k home on Marsh Overlook.
Bob Vigiere is correct. Your constant harping about illegals invading PWC is NOT helping your property values. You’re making PWC look like an awfu place to live, and you all are driving away potential homeowners and businesses big-time.
LOL an anti-Clinton Rally with McCain signs?
Thats like fighting Fire with Fire.
OV - my comments weren’t snide - they were meant to be informative. I was trying to provide factual information. I attend BOCS meetings, I have attended a meeting with ICE (in Maryland), and meetings with members of the Gang Task Force (in PWC). I have also attended one of the Culpeper Coalition meetings (the county and city governments joining to fight illegal immigration).
It isn’t that kindness isn’t appreciated. It is that sarcasm is not appreciated - and your “dear” and “sweetie” were oozing sarcasm.
Is it necessary for you to be sarcastic and snide? Are we not on the same side here?
Ducky - I beg to differ with you. We are showing that we will not tolerate the presence of lawbreakers - and we are taking a stand for our communities, and for the future of our children.
Loudon - I can’t tell.
I did see that I was sly….. not usually a compliment?! Okay for you to use sarcasm but not me?! As I say, I can’t tell. It really doesn’t matter, just looking for the money. Hear alot about what we are goint to recoup but can’t really get an exact answer; although some seem pretty exact about what it costs. It is a dilemma.
Ducky, thank goodness someone hears what I hear. This can be a verra destructive group. This has been going on since early summer and it’s getting us nowhere fast except a reputation that is worse than PG County. There are adaquate of laws on the books, plenty of things we can do in PWC plenty plenty…… Not sure why we want to be the feds.
Loudoun, think we are all on the same side but how is so important. Destructive talk, constant criticism is not working with people, just against them. That’s mostly what I hear. Let’s go to 711 and see what the cops do to us (chest thump), get rid of the Police Chief (chest thump), and so on and so on. Just for fun, count the number of positive threads you see here….
Saw Hal Parrish walking in!!!!!!!!
FYI - Large crowd at Metz with many folks still waiting in
line. The parking lot and surrounding streets are full of
parked cars. When built in 1990, Metz’s auditorium and
parking lot were “super sized” beyond what a typical
middle school might have so it could also hold community
gatherings (The recent Manassas GOP mass meeting,
for example , was held there), but I’ve never seen this
many folks. Happy to see any of the candidates come
to Manassas, but it appears a large number of people
may not find a seat or even get in today. Plus,
it is cool and very windy (know some of you
blogheads will have fun with that). Back to the TV -
will Zorn give a speech — Hope, Promise, A Better
Tomorrow?
The Metz rally was a bit of a trainwreck.
The venue was way too small.
People waited in line for two hours without being told they were in line for the auxiliary room, not the actual room with Hillary in it.
[Ed note: comment edited. No, I was not able to attend.]
I agree with Ducky and One Voice.
JimmyV,
Good question. Why is she coming here? And what city officials are planning to show up for the meet and greet?? I attempted, before 12pm, to get out of my neighborhood but found that Wellington Road was gridlocked. I also noticed many surrounding streets FILLED with street parking that don’t live here!
Someone had connections to get this venue set up long before today. Guess the hoops and loops most have to go through were by-passed to get a celebrity ‘breck girl’ into the city to give it a make-over to appeal to the nation to come and consider living in our beautiful city.
just some dude, maybe it was strategic planning to have Metz be the place knowing full well and good it could not hold a hugh crowd. Makes for a better story of how many came to support her that crowds willingly stood in the wind just to be in solidarity.
Look forward to your ‘live coverage’ clip when you can get it out, Greg.
Apparently someone forgot to send Hillary the memo that this isn’t Clinton Country. People nearly wrapped around the building over at Metz.
The Clintons probably got confused because Virginia just elected a Democratic Senator and Governor. Things are looking pretty purple to me.
I didn’t see any McCain signs out there…doesn’t mean they weren’t there. I just know that the fine folks here believe strongly in the rule of law and they would have needed a permit to demonstrate for McCain.
silverfox,
maybe, I know for a fact George Mason University offered Clinton both the Patriot Center and their large student union, the Johnson Center.
Greg said: “Manassas is one of the most Republican jurisdictions in Northern Virginia.”
Agree. I am willing to bet that most attendees at Metz today came over from Fairfax and Arlington.
JSD,
Perhaps the campaign wanted Manassas rather than Fairfax.
# manassascityresident said on 10 Feb 2008 at 2:56 pm:
Greg said: “Manassas is one of the most Republican jurisdictions in Northern Virginia.”
Agree. I am willing to bet that most attendees at Metz today came over from Fairfax and Arlington.
I agree wholeheartedly. Something I’ve noticed about HillBillary’s
gatherings is that they “arrange” supporters by RACE! I’m willing to
bet when photo’s of the event appear, they will have one black, one
white, one Hispanic, one whatever….. Very racist thing to do.
The first time I noticed this was when Hill went to a middle school
in Fairfax a couple of years ago and they had arranged all the kids
by race in the bleachers. Hill had an “all knowing” phony smile on
her face throughout. Wonder why she didnt cry then?
Whoops! Forgot to add this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nacj1L1V3s0
Hill was over at Washington Lee High School in Arlington on thursday, Feb. 7th. The kids were given an “early release” half day for the event. Hill was tardy.
http://www.wusa9.com/news/regional/story.aspx?storyid=68293
http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/provider/providerarticle.aspx?feed=ACBJ&date=20080207&id=8162119
http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/provider/providerarticle.aspx?feed=ACBJ&date=20080207&id=8162119
Meanwhile, Frank Rich of the NYTimes had a few things to say on behalf of Hill:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/10/opinion/10rich.html?ref=opinion&pagewanted=print
Pardon the double moneycentral post. Meant to get this up:
http://www.daylife.com/photo/07K03wraa8aH6
You know, Rocket Squirell, arranging attendants at political dos is nothing new. Bush was very, very careful not to allow any antis even near where he was speaking. Most, almost all, attanding were invited and nobody else was allowed inside.
At photo ops for every politician that is just what is done. So nothing new here. Why do you think politicians hug babies they don’t know? Eat food they can’t stand etc. etc. Gee and Gosh, get real! This is the way it’s done. I still say it took guts to even go to Manassas!
I liked your youtube connection. My son loved Lenyard Skinyard (sp ?) and I like a lot of country music.
Sorry I spelled it wrong : Squirrel = correct
Krutis,
How about this for a photo-op?
http://www.wyolife.com/kerryfest/_borders/hillary%20wets%20her%20pants.jpg
When driving by, I noticed alot of out of city/county tags. Also a number of Maryland and D.C. car tags.
CNN is now reporting that Sen. Hillary Clinton has replaced her presidential campaign manager.
So which one of you clowns convinced her?!!! Anyone out there have a new job now????
Anon,
I had a car in front of me from Alaska. Bet they came down to see Hillary! All the way to Manassas.
You must have a lot better eye sight than I do. It was very difficult to see tags unless you made it into the lot, which meant getting there around 10 am. I would imagine many people came from surrounding areas to see a presidential candidate. Hillary might have a little more drawing power because of her being an ex first lady.
I was there with lots of folks from Manassas. Vice-Mayor Parrish cut right in front and did not have to wait in line. I was in the gym and she gave a good speach. She will be tough to beat.
I had a late DUH moment and realized I could have sold 4 spots in my driveway and made a quick $40 or so.
I did serenade all those walking by with Darryl Worley’s “Have You Forgotten?” blaring from my Zune speakers.
I also noticed how the wind picked up noticeably as she came and left. Musta been necessary to get the broom going.
Hal Parrish - the next REPUBLICAN Mayor of Manassas - shows bad form going to a campaign event for Hillary Clinton. He is a RINO. Why are we going to elect him? Is no one else upset? or is this just what Hal always does? Did anyone see any other Republican elected officials? How did he get in if there was such a long line? Did he butt in? He better remember that he is not like her queen majesty, Hillary. He sure has alot to learn and so do we for allowing him to become the next leader of the Republican Party in Manassas without competition.
Just curious. How do you tell where a car is from in Virginia? Or are you talking not about the license plates, but about a county sticker? Forgive me if I don’t remember, it’s been several years since I had wheels.
I thought the other jurisdictions stopped issuing stickers; hasn’t that been a discussion with PWC’s Supervisors in the past few years?
Patti Solis Doyle out.
Maggie Williams in.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/Clinton_campaign_manager_out.html
“$37,500 to Maggie Williams, a close friend ( a payment Clinton’s staffers now call an error)” How close a friend? Google up Maggie Smith and Vince Foster.
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2006/11/hillary_clinton_runs_most_expe_1.html
How in the heck does anyone expect this woman to manage the Presidency when she can’t even manage her husband?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1968140/posts
The City and County have stickers
Right, but I think Fairfax and maybe Arlington got rid of them. Well, maybe they were old cars with old stickers….
Perhaps Hal Parrish has class as his father did. I cannot imagine a mayor -elect not going to an event and welcoming a senator regardless of political party. No wonder nothing gets accomplished in Washington if we are always at war with each other…so much at war that we cannot exercise common civility.
Dolph, once again you have shown your sense of decency and stamp
of good breeding. You are indeed, a breath of fresh air on this blog.
Leila: What on earth is the point of your question? Minutiae, as usual.
monticup, you appear to be obsessed. I said I was curious. You are absolutely transparent in your compulsion to jump all over me at every opportunity. If everything has to have a salient political point, then please jump equally all over those who share pot roast recipes, how-bout-them-Skins comments, gun recommendations, etc. etc. Give it a rest.
Or as Freud supposedly said: “Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.”
Gee — with the huge overflow crowd and with many turned away I guess neither Clinton.. or her staff…or any of her supports noticed where Manassas stands. And when did it become the best campaign strategy to only go to your strong-holds… rather than reach out and talk with people that may not agree with you. Did you ever think they might want a bunch of middle of the road Republicans to show up with an open mind and listen to her speak.
Sorry, that’s google up Maggie Williams and Vince Foster.
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“Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.”
What Bill said to Hill after the Monica story got out.
Actually watch Maggie Smith in The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie, a lesson in the dangers of political demagoguery if there ever was one.
Dolph,
Considering the partisanship of the Klintons, I don’t blame any of our City leadership showing up to give her the time of the day.
Hmm, traffic lawbreaking deserves sympathy, and you want amnesty for abusive drivers NOW (or even better retroactive!) but no compassion for migrants.
This is highly inconsistency since bad driving kills people but illegal migration does not. This is why some of us think the grouchiness here about illegals is based more on a personal dislike of latinos than a principled stand for rule of law.
How about every illegal migrant we catch gets a $75 fines and let go? Sort of like what we do with red-light and speeding cameras as a revenue generation for government.
Eduardo said on 10 Feb 2008 at 9:58 pm:
How about every illegal migrant we catch gets a $75 fines and let go? Sort of like what we do with red-light and speeding cameras as a revenue generation for government.
There’s a hell of lot of difference between speeding, running red lights, and breaking the federal laws by illegal entering our great nation!
Verdad?
corr: and breaking the federal laws by ILLEGALLY entering our great nation!
Eduardo said on 10 Feb 2008 at 9:58 pm:
This is highly inconsistency since bad driving kills people but illegal migration does not.
How about the 5 illegals charged with murder in this area the past year. 5 out of the 9 murders were comitted by illegals. How soon you forget!
Let’s see, reckless driving in Virginia can be a felony or a misdemeanor depending on various factors:
http://www.dmv.state.va.us/webdoc/citizen/drivers/points_6.asp
while the crime of entering the country illegally (the first time) is always a federal misdemeanor. Yes, you are right, they are quite different.
999, what do you mean by “this area.” Do you mean Manassas, PWC, or? What jurisdiction were the nine murders in?
Bridget said on 10 Feb 2008 at 5:28 pm:
Patti Solis Doyle out.
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Now we know “the rest of the story” on why Hillary was in town. She was looking for a replacement from our community.
A graduate of Northwestern University, Solis Doyle started out as Clinton’s scheduler in Arkansas, and also served that role for her in the White House.
In 2000, Solis Doyle earned a leadership role in Camp Clinton after being sent from the White House to New York to help steer Clinton’s senate campaign towards victory. The child of Mexican immigrants, Solis Doyle is fiercely loyal to Clinton.
Leila in the PRA said on 10 Feb 2008 at 10:59 pm:
999, what do you mean by “this area.” Do you mean Manassas, PWC, or? What jurisdiction were the nine murders in?
They were comitted in Manassas and PWC. Latest murder by an illegal occured in Woodbridge where the perp killed 3 people and wounded two others. He fled and was caught in PA and is now in the PWC jail awaiting trial next month. Five of the nine murders were commited by confirmed illegals according to the news.
Leila in the PRA said on 10 Feb 2008 at 10:59 pm:
999, what do you mean by “this area.”
Here is information from the PWC police site. 9 murders during 2007 are listed. No breakdown on who comitted them but as I stated above, five of them were reported to have been comitted by illegals.
Leila in the PRA said on 10 Feb 2008 at 10:59 pm:
999, what do you mean by “this area.”
OOOPS! Here is the site:
http://www.co.prince-william.va.us/default.aspx?topic=040036000020004611
999, Thank you for the information.
Fomer President Bill Clinton will be in Fredericksburg tomorrow 12:15-2:15 at my alma mater, University of Mary Washington in the Great Hall in Woodard Center.
It seems that Virginia is getting much more attention than Maryland is for Chesapeake Tuesday, or is it just my imagination?
Don’t forget that McCain will be in Richmond today with George Allen, among others.
‘A TRUE CONSERVATIVE’
For McCain, Bush Has Both Praise, Advice
By Peter Baker
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, February 11, 2008; Page A01
“If John is the nominee, he has got some convincing to do to convince people that he is a solid conservative, and I’ll be glad to help him if he is the nominee,” Bush said on “Fox News Sunday.” “But he is a conservative. Look, he is very strong on national defense. He is tough fiscally. He believes the tax cuts ought to be permanent. He is pro-life. His principles are sound and solid, as far as I’m concerned.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/10/AR2008021002144.html?hpid=topnews
As our President says, John McCain is a true conservative.
Dolph,
I don’t think it’s your imagination at all. The polls (for what they are worth) point to Maryland and DC being a given for Obama. Virginia is a real toss-up. The Clinton camp just got smacked in Maine … despite thinking they owned the state.
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“…bad driving kills but illegal migration does not.”
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/homeland.php?id=952468
http://www.newswithviews.com/Kouri/jim.htm
http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/
http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.html
http://www.freedomszone.com/archives/2007/08/illegal_alien_killer_of_three.php
http://tammybruce.com/2007/08/newark_mass_murder.php
http://www.ojjpac.org/memorial.asp
http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/
Illegal immigration does not kill? I suppose the border agent who was killed a couple of weeks ago by an illegal would have a different opinion if he could voice it. Illegals kill plenty in this Country, and any attempt to down play their law breaking is just plain silly.
Ducky: Why are YOU pushing McCain? Are you a true conservative?
Ducky said on 11 Feb 2008 at 3:00 am:
‘A TRUE CONSERVATIVE’
For McCain, Bush Has Both Praise, Advice
YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING US!
monticup said on 11 Feb 2008 at 10:15 am:
Ducky: Why are YOU pushing McCain? Are you a true conservative?
LOONEY VICE DUCKY - IT FITS!
Ducky said on 11 Feb 2008 at 2:24 am:
Don’t forget that McCain will be in Richmond today with George Allen, among others.
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/cin_hacker_2.htm
Ducky said on 11 Feb 2008 at 3:00 am:
As our President says, John McCain is a true conservative.
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/cin_secretworldofmccain.htm
I was at the Manassas Town Hall Meeting (THM) and there was over 3,000 people who came to listen to Mrs. Clinton. From all over Prince William County, Culpepper, Faquier, and Fredricksburg. No one I spoke with was from Arlington or Fairfax.
Of all the candidates I have gone to listen to at various THMs she was the first one to really give detail information on the issues I am concerned about….education and getting rid of No Child Left Behind, student loans and tax writeoffs for the parents and a workers program to help graduates pay off their loans by becoming nurses, teachers, police officers, etc….
Hillary spoke about healthcare and no she will not garnish workers pay. She spoke in detail about her healthcare plan. Bringing our men and women home from Iraq. Taking care of our vetrans from WWII to today. Just to mention a few topics.
Hillary Clinton has what it takes to be President, courage, strength and personal conviction. Is she a ‘nutcracker’? HELL YA - isn’t that what we want in our President. A woman or man who won’t take sh’t from anyone or any country!!
Obama is untried and too inexperienced. He reminds me of Carter. Too many ideas and not enough experience. I don’t want another ‘Training Wheels’ President.
Go to the polls tomorrow and vote for Hillary Clinton.
Since Virginia has open primaries, and with the GOP nomination pretty much settled, she’s probably attempting to entice the Hillary-would-be-easier-to-beat-than-Obama folks into voting fro her in the Democratic primary instead of the Republican primary.
Hokie-Mom,
Thanks for the update. It was waaay too crowded when I finally got over to Metz to dream of getting inside. Kudos to you for getting there early. I listened on C-Span later in the day and was impressed with what Hillary had to say. I find her to be a moderate.
Hokie-Mom,
I left out the most important thing Hillary said in MY mind: She will do away with NCLB. I have not yet heard that out of any other candidate. I suppose each person has their priorities. That would be mine.
Compare 1000 Traffic deaths in Virginia per year (http://www.wtop.com/?sid=1316699&nid=25) to a handful of latino on latino murders. Which is more of a concern to the soccer mom down the street?
We need to focus on enforcing laws that protect people from violent crime rather than a blind focus on immigration status. Illegal immigration is not a violent crime. Speeding and red-light running is.
You have ruined whatever high road you had on the rule of law argument by showing how quickly you are willing to change the law (and give amnesty) when the law is unfavorable to americans but won’t consider amnesty for unfair immigration laws because it would benefit a latino migrant.
Eduardo: “We need to focus on enforcing laws that protect people from violent crime rather than a blind focus on immigration status. Illegal immigration is not a violent crime. Speeding and red-light running is.”
You seem to want to pick and choose what laws are enforced in this country.
Identity theft, check fraud, embezzling, etc., are not VIOLENT crimes… so they’re okay in your view?
Just curious.
When someone breaks into my home and steals my belongings, is that a “violent crime”? Should that be ignored?
Mike,
Yes because they may have been hungry or cold. DO YOU NOT GET IT?
HOW inhumane of you to pose such a question! ( forget all the kindness that you have shown, it all goes out the window!) OF course I am being sarcastic, but it gets old huh?!?
But traffic violations are a violent crime and you (Virginian lawmakers and their supporters) want to give lawbreaking drivers amnesty. Why? Where’s the emphasis on punishing criminal conduct. Instead the emphasis is on how harsh the penalties are on poor americans and thus inhumane and must be repealled. So the message one takes away is that vehicular violence by americans is OK but migrants crossing an arbitary line to find work to put food on the table free of a tyranical socialistic regime is a crime? I don’t get it.
The trespassing analogy is apt. Trespassing is not a violent crime. Illegal migrants are not stealing jobs but even if you wrongly think they are theft is not a violent crime. [Killing someone with a vehicle IS a violent crime.] So you want to ignore thousands of manslaughters per year so we can concentrate on at most theft of services and an occasional migrant homicide? Where are the pro-life people in this crowd? Is there no compassion for human life and dignity?
Mcain is a nut and no way he’s fit to lead this country. Then again, ANYBODY is fit to lead especially after the job Bush Jr. has done.
Angry Blackman! said on 12 Feb 2008 at 7:32 am:
Mcain is a nut and no way he’s fit to lead this country. Then again, ANYBODY is fit to lead especially after the job Bush Jr. has done.
Now, now, now…. you don’t want to make BATS IN THE BELFRY unhappy. He thinks McCain is the greatest thing since bottled water.
Dolph,
Are you serious? Hillary a moderate? Do you just throw stuff out to get a reaction? She wants to take the profits of companies, not taxes, but profits. That is socialism. She wants to provide health care for everyone, that is socialism. She was to take money from the rich and give it to the poor, income redistribution, that is socialism. Socialism is not moderate in anyway.
COM,
You are very conservative and I am very much a moderate. We simply will not agree on these things so it does neither of us any good to discuss. We disagree on the original premise so obviously anything after that would be wasted air. For instance, I would never see health care for everyone as socialism. You do because you said you did.
Let’s live to fight another day.
Dolph,
Sorry, but that is not going to work here. Even Canada and England call it socialized health care. This is not a matter of opinion to not want to call it that, it is what it is. Since when has America ever promised that health care is something that is expected or even a right? It has not, but thanks to libs who want to push their socialism on us, it has become in their eyes a “right”, and therefore if you are against it, you are against the children. Hmmm. I heard a lot of the same from the illegals during the public hearing on the resolution.
Do you think it is OK to take money that you earned and provide it to someone else?
COM,
I believe England called their health plan NHS.
I guess you are opposed to medicare and social security?
Dolph,
I oppose social security from the stand point that when I get to retirement age, it will not resemble the program we have now, and I could have used/invested the money much better then just paying into like I have been doing.
I agree there should be a program that allows workers to save money that is taken directly from their pay checks. The Government should just allow us to expand 401K programs and other saving programs and bypass paying into a general fund that allows for the misuse and abuse of the program.