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The Blackmail Of Kevin Brendel

By Greg L | 12 February 2008 | Rack & Roll Scandal, Manassas Park, Crime | 59 Comments

Manassas Park Planning Commissioner and former Vice-Mayor Kevin Brendel had an interesting hobby. He liked to take lewd pictures of young girls — some of whom are reported to be a little less than the legal age — when he was moonlighting as a DJ at Rack n’ Roll. When the City found out about this, instead of referring this for possible prosecution (as you’d normally expect from people to swear an oath of office), the city decided to sit on this evidence and coerce Brendel to help them manufacture evidence against Rack n’ Roll’s owner David Ruttenberg, and force him to fall in line when voting on the Governing Board. Once he surrendered to this nice little blackmail, he made a very convenient choice for the Planning Commission after failing to retain his seat in the 2005 election, giving Frank Jones and Brian Polk a reliable proxy on the Planning Commission.

About 130 of these pictures Brendel took ended up in the city’s possession, and made the rounds of city officials when Frank Jones felt he needed to do a little arm twisting. When Ruttenberg’s appeal before the ABC board was heard, the city flat-out denied that any of these pictures existed. These non-existent pictures ended up being admitted into evidence during Ruttenberg’s ultimately successful appeal of a permit denial, but they were placed under protective order and Ruttenberg wasn’t allowed to even see what these were, much less have the ability to respond to this secret evidence.

More recently, City Attorney Dean Crowhurst admitted during a televised meeting of the Manassas Park Planning Commission that these pictures existed, and at least suggested that they demonstrate unlawful activity. Still no investigation has been opened, and the city still is refusing to let anyone see what evidence it is holding on to or explain why, if they suggest that Kevin Brendel engaged in the production of child pornography, Brendel is still sitting on the Planning Commission.

But we have some of these pictures now.

This is definitely one of the more tame pictures I received, which came to me from one of the subjects of these photos. Brendel himself gave her a CD with some of these photos, and after months of trying to track this story down, I managed to get my hands on some of them. As the story spreads, the leads finally seem to be opening up. I’ve talked with two other women who have direct knowledge of Brendel’s peculiar fascination with photographic arts, and some of the stories of Brendel taking young girls down to his basement for a late night photo shoot while his wife and kids were sleeping upstairs are deeply disturbing.

The City of Manassas Park is holding this photo and approximately 130 others taken by Brendel, but there’s rumored to be quite a few more the city has that don’t involve Rack n’ Roll. The city uses these when it’s to their advantage in their fight to destroy whoever the enemy of the month is, but won’t turn them over to law enforcement. Funny how they’re bad enough to smear someone, but not bad enough to prosecute the person who actually asked young girls to pose for him in the nude performing sex acts, among other things.

I wonder what the penalty is for city officials to conceal evidence of a crime, on top of the punishment for felony blackmail. Brendel is clearly wrong for behaving as he did, but to have city officials who have sworn to uphold the law engage in blackmail so they can pursue a vendetta against David Ruttenberg is wrong on so many, and much more disturbing levels. If a guy breaks the law, he can at least get his day in court to try to prove his innocence. When you’re blackmailed, you’re turned into someone’s slave, and there’s no opportunity to argue about justice.It’s time to call for criminal investigations. Manassas Park is absolutely out of control.

UPDATE: I’ve been told that Kevin Brendel is Cub Master for Cub Scout Pack 1370 and Scout Master for Boy Scout Troop 1370.  I’ll bet the kids are having a heck of a time with this poor guy…

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  1. Anonymous said on 12 Feb 2008 at 1:53 pm:
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    Please forward this information to Perverted Justice and other like-minded groups….they will take the ball and run with it. While they deal with internet predators, I’m sure they have the experience, knowledge, and resources to quickly find out if any of these photos are of underage girls. They can investigate what Brendel has done with these photos (internet distribution, etc.).

    Let these groups get the FBI involved again. It doesn’t seem to work for all of us to try to get the FBI to look into what the Manassas Park officials have been doing. There must be a way to FINALLY get the Feds more active in this mess.

  2. Harry said on 12 Feb 2008 at 2:26 pm:
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    This is very interesting. I attended a briefing about a week ago conducted by Brian Moran who had data from police investigators that Woodbridge and Manassas both ranked in the top 10 of locations in the State for recieving and sending child porn based on IP addresses, unfortunately there are insufficient internet police investigators to do much about it, only 43 in the entire state. Moran was seeking additional funds for the police to investigate the 270,000 computers in Virginia receiving and or sending child porn, unfortunately it looks like the funding necessary to track down the 1000 + child pornographers in Manassas and Woodbridge will not be approved by the House of Delegates. I was absolutely appalled by what is going on in our community: rape of 3 yr old; pre-puberty castration, rape of 10 year olds, these perverts then trade this stuff on the internet. I was stunned to learn of the amount of trafficing in Manassas and Woodbridge.

  3. Old Soldier said on 12 Feb 2008 at 5:20 pm:
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    The Prince William Committee of 100 February 21st Program is Blogging, Ethics and the First Amendment - How Far is Too Far? Greg, I hope you attend as you would be a value-ad to the program. For reservations, go to http://www.pwc100.org/home.htm

  4. Anonymous said on 12 Feb 2008 at 5:42 pm:
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    I hate to point out the obvious; however, are you admitting that you sought out and are in possession of child pornography? …and published a sample? I’m not sure that’s 1st amendment protected free speech.

  5. just some dude said on 12 Feb 2008 at 5:46 pm:
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    you might want to blur out the left girl’s chest a bit more.

  6. Anonymous said on 12 Feb 2008 at 6:20 pm:
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    Why have you not contacted the Feds

  7. Pat.Herve said on 12 Feb 2008 at 6:34 pm:
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    How insensitive of YOU. Why are you posting the information on a public web site. How dare you post the photo of these children - why are you exploiting them - is it to get ratings on your blog.

    If a crime was commited, you should be furnishing the information to the proper authorities. In my mind, you are actually part of the crime, because you are propagating the distrubution of the photo, are just as guilty as anyone you want to point fingers at.


    I STRONGLY suggest you pull the photo down.

  8. josh said on 12 Feb 2008 at 6:49 pm:
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    Not that I agree with photos such as this being posted to prove a point, but I did read that the subjects did provide him directly with the photos and the faces and accompanying body parts are blurred out.

    If there are more photos such as this they should be provided to law enforcement and/or NCMEC; I’m sure they would be interested in them for sure.

  9. AWCheney said on 12 Feb 2008 at 7:18 pm:
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    To date, the law enforcement in our County (most particularly Paul Ebert), not to mention Manassas Park, has been supportive of the activities of the Manassas Park City Council and totally unwilling to even look at any evidence of wrongdoing. On the contrary…when presented with it, a “gag order” is issued. Believe it or not, the only justice that anyone on their radar has been able to squeeze out has been a direct result of bringing that evidence out into the open through the blogs, particularly this one. Rather than castigating Greg for having the courage to bring these things out into the light of day, you should be thankful that he is willing to do so…it could happen to YOU one day!

    For those of you that say we should be silent on all that is wrong here in Prince William County because it’s giving us a bad reputation, I submit that the reason that things have gotten so wrong here is precisely because people turned a blind eye. How does that saying go…”You reap what you sow?” It’s long past time to clean up the mess, and the first step is openly admitting that there is one.

  10. AWCheney said on 12 Feb 2008 at 7:26 pm:
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    To Pat.Herve (”If a crime was committed, you should be furnishing the information to the proper authorities.”):

    You must be new to this blog, or very limited in those threads which you follow, but the information has LONG been turned over to the proper authorities. Also, a judge reviewed the photos and then, at the request of the MP City Council (correct me if I’m wrong about the sequence here, Greg) put a gag order on the photos. So…where’s the interest among the “proper authorities?

  11. Anonymous said on 12 Feb 2008 at 7:30 pm:
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    A few questions: Is Greg currently in possession of child porn? Is he a sworn officer of the court (Prosecutor, Police, Sheriff, etc.) authorized to investigate child porn (and possess it as part of the investigation)? Isn’t it against the law to publish child porn on the internet (you did see the pictures)? Does he have information about the identification of the victims and details of the crime of interest to law enforcement? Something about the rule of law crosses my mind. You can’t claim “rule of law” when it suits your purposes and disregard the “rule of law” when it doesn’t.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the FBI knocked on Greg’s door with a few questions…

  12. AWCheney said on 12 Feb 2008 at 7:36 pm:
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    Afraid that they might come knocking at your door because this might build a fire under them, Anonymous?

  13. MP Business owner said on 12 Feb 2008 at 8:22 pm:
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    This picture does not show child porn. It shows 18yr+ women flashing for Brendel at his request while he is on duty as the DJ at Rack N Roll. Brendel asked them to flash, Brendel took the picture, Brendel burned the disk on his pc and gave it to the girl.


    The city attorneys claim that they have pictures from Brendel that may involve underage girls.

    Greg is not propogating porn. He’s trying to find out what Brendel actually did.

    This had to be shown or Greg would be accused next of spinning an old wive’s tale.

    don’t you want to know? He is sitting in power in Manassas Park with the full knowledge of the mayor, chief of police, and city attorneys. They all know. They’ve been protecting him since 2004.

    Why? You ask. It’s hard to roast that poolhall when your own people are responsible for the lewd acts your using as evidence.

    The bottom line is this: Their unconstitutional raid misfired on them. Their victims survived that night to fight back. The tactical strike failed to criminally charge David Ruttenberg or sieze his assets. Now they’ve been dragged into a messy war and they use brendel as their tool. Brendel is only one of many casualties.

    Do you think if the city attorney had met his obligation to furnish these pics in discovery, and the ABC realized that these lewd acts were instigated by MP officials (behind the owner’s back), that Rack N Roll wold have lost it’s ABC license???

    This is heavy handed government…..brought on by hypocrites in big new houses.

    They’ve ruined lives.

  14. Anonymous said on 12 Feb 2008 at 9:17 pm:
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    I made the first post here. I apologize if I sent everyone on this tirade. I brought up the fact of underage girls because I had heard rumors that Brendel had pictures of this sort as well. All girls on this CD as I understand it are over 21 since they were in a place where they had to show identification first.

    Think about this: If Brendel was any other person in any other jurisdiction…just think about this….a guy operating like this would have had his house and computers raided by now. Instead, MP officials hold him up as some sort of pillar of the community.

    Please…everyone…focus on the issue here. City officials are doing ANYTHING it takes to blackmail and bully law abiding citizens so those citizens will get out of their way for whatever reason. This should send a chill down everyone’s spine. Are we in America here or what? What is happening to our country….what kind of creepy town is this anyway.

    Also..Old Soldier — What are you implying with your post? Do you folks (Dennis D. and Co.) have an axe to grind perhaps?.

    This is all too scary to even sum up into words in one post.

  15. Government Official said on 12 Feb 2008 at 10:44 pm:
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    Where were these pictures taken? At Rack N Roll? Where was Ruttenberg? Did he know about this? Why didn’t he do anything? Was he again the “victim” (always the victim)? Wasn’t he charged by the ABC with underaged drinking and underaged nudity? I suspect these girls were underaged. I suspect he knew it. If he didn’t know what was going on, he was even more responsible. Personally I’m sick of the excuses of Ruttenberg and the whole sordid group of people who hang out at the place.

  16. AWCheney said on 12 Feb 2008 at 10:52 pm:
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    Well, at least you had the guts to admit, Government Official, that you are one of the corrupt, even if you won’t admit which one!

  17. NOT a Govt. official said on 12 Feb 2008 at 11:12 pm:
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    Government Official –

    I think it has been very well documented here and in many places how Ruttenberg has been a victim of certain things. You miss the point that it has never been about Mr. Ruttenberg and his problems with his business. It has always been about a small city government corrupt and out of control. We were all given a vivid peak at local government corruption upclose…YES…much of it through Mr. Ruttenberg’s point of view (thanks to his great security cameras in many instances).

    What is so funny now…after all the corruption, after all the amazing scandal and coverups, after all the obstruction….this stinky house of cards is going to fall because one of your little, silly boys just HAD to get his jollies by taking pictures of topless girls. Nobody could ever get the attention of the media or the FBI until now. Now they will pay attention because something tawdry is involved. It takes this sort of thing to get the attention of law enforcement (Federal that is…local is a joke in this matter). We should all thank the pervert who couldn’t be kept under wraps who now, unfortunately for you and your ilk, is ruining it for all the Manassas Park cronies.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…this is going to be good.

  18. Pat.Herve said on 12 Feb 2008 at 11:13 pm:
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    If someone wanted to “accused next of spinning an old wive’s tale.”, they could. What we have here is this, Greg wrote that there were child porn photos taken by KB. He includes a photo (assumably taken by KB - is that spinning?).

    Greg insinutates that the photo is of underage girls. Even if one of the girls gave the photo to greg, does that give him permission to post the photo onto this blog. Is he so headstrong into going after KB, that he disregards the privacy of the girls in the photo?

    If KB did wrong by alledgely taking the photo, hasn’t greg done wrong by posting the photo to this blog? If the girls are truly over age, where is the crime - meaning - greg posted the photo to show wrongdoing, but if these girls are of age, then the wrong doing is where……

    Now, child porn - yes - it should be prosecuted (to the fullest extent of the law). Do you think KB has everyone in his pocket? I have not seen the photos, but if they do exist, and they were taken by KB, and they have been handed over to the proper authorities, I would expect them to do something.

    Greg posting the photo here - is that supposed to get the authorities to do something? I think not. So, who is doing the spinning?

  19. AWCheney said on 12 Feb 2008 at 11:40 pm:
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    Do you think for one moment, Herve, that the young lady would have given Greg the pictures if she had not wanted to have this incident exposed (no pun intended) and the pictures used to do it? I expect Greg got that permission.

    As for you, Herve, either you have some vested interest in trying to “gag” this information, or your utter hatred of Greg is manifesting itself in clouding your judgment. Then again, maybe government corruption just doesn’t bother you…there’s a lot of THAT going around.

  20. MP Resident said on 13 Feb 2008 at 12:01 am:
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    So odd that “Government Official” doesn’t care WHO took the pictures. Or maybe not, since a more accurate name for that person would be “Crooked Manassas Park Government Official”.

    Come to think of it, having both “crooked” and “Manassas Park” in their name is a redundancy.

  21. FHL said on 13 Feb 2008 at 5:42 am:
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    Pat Herve said on Feb 12.
    “How insensitive of YOU. Why are you posting the information on a public web site. How dare you post the photo of these children - why are you exploiting them - is it to get ratings on your blog.

    If a crime was commited, you should be furnishing the information to the proper authorities. In my mind, you are actually part of the crime, because you are propagating the distrubution of the photo, are just as guilty as anyone you want to point fingers at.


    I STRONGLY suggest you pull the photo down.”

    I could not agree with Pat more. Greg continually posts things that are inappropriate or unsubstantiated. I think he borders on being very dangerous.

  22. Anon said on 13 Feb 2008 at 7:28 am:
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    You want things to change in Manassas Park, but yet you have created a climate that is so hostile, good people who might consider committee assignments, school board, or even running for the Governing Board can’t for fear of falsely being labeled a co-conspirator in this blog (as you did several members of the school board a while back) and opening their families up for ridicule.

    I feel sorry for the second girl in the picture - not the one who gave it to Greg, but the one who didn’t. How embarrassing for her.

  23. park'd said on 13 Feb 2008 at 7:39 am:
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    I’m sure NBC Dateline would love to run a piece on this story if all the facts are in place and the pictures do exist; assuming the girls were underage at the time. I’m also sure that dateline would like to talk to the Va. State Police, the MPPD and Paul Ebert as to why they chose not to investigate this and to actively cover it up if we are to believe Greg’s version of the story. Greg, contact Dateline and talk to a reporter there. If I had this evidence then that’s what I would do and if some judge or Ebert himself placed a gag order on it then I would tell them both to stuff it. This town needs to come back under law and order and if this really is a case of a city official doing this and then having the rest of the officials and police cover it up then it needs to be made public and they all need to be held accountable. It will be nice to have the rule of law back in this town. Maybe then the illegals will move out and some decent, law-abiding people with means may actually move to this town.

    NBC Dateline contact email - Dateline@NBCUNI.com

  24. park'd said on 13 Feb 2008 at 7:41 am:
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    Anon 7:28: your post doesn’t make sense to me. Care to elaborate?

  25. Pat.Herve said on 13 Feb 2008 at 7:41 am:
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    I am not trying to gag this information - but I am trying to provide a voice of reason.

    Allegedly, KB took the photo - there is no proof of that (in this blog) . What there is, is two girls who are naive enough to think that it is cool to flash their breasts. We do not know their ages. Posting them on this blog does what? How do we really know that they were taken by KB (even if he provided the cd).

    What I mean is, by accusing KB of creating these photos, and distributing them is a big accusation, and this blog should not be the jury.

    If there is wrongdoing, them he should be prosecuted.

    Has this information (child porn) been provided to the state authorities? I find it hard to believe that mp officials would try to hide a child porn crime. Has someone gone to the media?

    Even though the faces are altered, if you know the girls, you probably can recognize them.

    If the girl (note, there are two girls) did give the cd to greg, did he tell her that he was going to post a photo onto a publicly available web site?

    I stand by my observation that the photo appearing on this blog is not neccessary for the story (which should be prosecuted if true), or let me put it this way - my morals say that it is wrong to post the photo on the internet. My morals say that these young girls will one day regret what they did, and a photo on the web will be their reminder.

  26. Old Soldier said on 13 Feb 2008 at 9:39 am:
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    What Anonymous said on 12 Feb 2008 at 9:17 pm, ” Also..Old Soldier — What are you implying with your post? Do you folks (Dennis D. and Co.) have an axe to grind perhaps?”

    I occasionally attend Committee of 100 meetings (the Supervisor candidate debates, for example) so I’m on their mailing list. I’m not a member and frankly don’t know who Dennis D. and Co. are. I suggested Greg attend because he runs one of the most influential blogs in Virginia and has lived through (or is living through) a lawsuit not unlike the subject of the Committee’s presentation. He’s (IMHO) a subject matter expert in this area with real experience (vice the academics who will be presenting).

  27. park'd said on 13 Feb 2008 at 10:33 am:
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    I think that Greg is walking a thin line here and either needs to present this evidence to mainstream review or needs to stop making posts of such an extreme criminal nature. These are some SERIOUS allegations of improprieties and coverups by city officials and if they are true then Greg needs to take all of this evidence to the mass media, the federal authorities, the national abused children organizations and misc. other entities that can do something about it. Screaming from the rafters that MP and Brendell are corrupt and are purveyors of kiddy porn will only serve to get Greg served with a libel lawsuit if he doesn’t soon put his money where his keyboard is.

  28. monticup said on 13 Feb 2008 at 10:45 am:
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    Pat Herve: Your opinion that the picture is not necessary is totally immaterial. What you need to do is start your own blog, write the story and DO NOT include the pictures.

  29. monticup said on 13 Feb 2008 at 10:49 am:
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    These girls, whoever they are, have major problems in the intelligence and mental health areas. What kind of girl exposes herself willingly for someone’s camera?

  30. Dolph said on 13 Feb 2008 at 11:10 am:
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    Red letter day here. I totally agree with you.

    I don’t feel sorry for either of those girls. If you don’t want your image floating around on the internet somewhere, keep your shirt down. They are stupid. I rarely say that about someone. (although I often think it.)

  31. Krutis said on 13 Feb 2008 at 11:41 am:
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    This is, and has for a long time been, Greg’s OBSESSION! Can’t help but wonder why.

  32. Krutis said on 13 Feb 2008 at 11:57 am:
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    Must be at least the fourth or fifth time this picture has been up on this blog. What do you want, Greg? Do you have some special relationship with Ruttenberg? Has anyone else taken up this case with the same passion as you? It would be nice if you’d state your reasons and your goal.

    It seems that if something illegal has taken place, it would be investigated in depth. If the local investigation is unsatisfactory, isn’t it possible to go to a higher court for further investigation? I don’t understand Greg’s intensity re this case.

  33. MP Resident said on 13 Feb 2008 at 12:04 pm:
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    “You want things to change in Manassas Park, but yet you have created a climate that is so hostile”

    I’ll tell you what was hostile..Frank Jones screaming at Adam Larson that there were no plans for a new city hall, just about a year and a half before they (surprise!) voted to acquire land for a (surprise!) new city hall.

  34. MP Resident said on 13 Feb 2008 at 12:05 pm:
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    “Anon 7:28: your post doesn’t make sense to me. Care to elaborate?”

    I will. He thinks that MP officials shouldn’t be subject to scrutiny…but that’s how we got into this mess in the first place, isn’t it?

  35. MP Resident said on 13 Feb 2008 at 12:07 pm:
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    “will only serve to get Greg served with a libel lawsuit”

    That would be interesting, for the same reason it would NEVER happen: Discovery.

  36. monticup said on 13 Feb 2008 at 12:34 pm:
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    Dolph: May we have many more red letter days!

  37. Loudoun Insider said on 13 Feb 2008 at 1:36 pm:
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    Greg you’re obviously getting closer to the truth and the opposition is bringing out it’s allies to their rescue.

    To those defenders of the oligarchy, you know why nothing has happened as far as an investigation - Ebert protects his fellow elitists. For whatever reason the state and federal authorities don’t have the manpower or interest.

    This whole mess stinks to high heaven just like the mess in Loudoun County. It’s way past time for Bob McDonnell to get involved and appoint a NOVA special prosecutor.

  38. John Light said on 13 Feb 2008 at 1:46 pm:
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    monticup said on 13 Feb 2008 at 10:49 am:
    These girls, whoever they are, have major problems in the intelligence and mental health areas. What kind of girl exposes herself willingly for someone’s camera?

    Monticup: Ever been to a concert??? When I was at The Village of the Damned at Ozzfest a couple years ago with my son, the employees of Nissan were ENCOURAGING the girls to lift their shirts. I had not seen ANY girl lift her shirt until the employees (identified by the side of the fence they were standing on, the short sleeve polo shirt with Nissan Staff printed on it, and them SCREAMING lift your shirts while they were dangling beads in the air) started encouraging it.

    Now while I AM a fan of Greg as well of this site - I must say that as a parent I was/am taken aback by the photo. Whether or not the girls are “of age” I can guarantee this much by looking at the picture…they aren’t old enough to drink!!! It was wrong of the girls to lift their shirt, it was wrong of the photographer to take the shot, and it was wrong of Greg to post.

    Please remember, these girls are SOMEONE’S daughter and while their lack of judgement does not excuse what they did, posting the picture on here does nothing to bring a positive resolution to the end. Maybe I am just too hyper-sensitive, but I think that words would have done better than pictures.


  39. monticup said on 13 Feb 2008 at 1:51 pm:
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    John Light: If the pictures had not been blurred out I would agree with you.

  40. park'd said on 13 Feb 2008 at 1:52 pm:
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    NBC Dateline, Bill O’ Reilly or Lou Dobbs. I’m sure Lou would LOVE to air a story on this if he thinks he could nail the officials of a town that is known as one of the greatest sanctuary cities in the state of Va. Stop blathering about this nonsense if you don’t want to do something with the evidence! I say this with the utmost respect to you and your blog and your authority to do what you want though ;)

    Show me the evidence! — Jerry Maguire

  41. NW said on 13 Feb 2008 at 3:10 pm:
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    This evidence has been kept under wraps for way too long…and it’s about time someone exposes the truth of what’s going on in MP. If it takes showing a picture to PROVE that there is wrongdoing that has to this date been ignored, then I say do it. The girls in the picture obviously want some justice, too. Maybe now the FBI or OTHER law enforcement will pay attention to what’s happening here. Noone has been able to out this guy, so now the story can be exposed by someone that knows what happened from the very beginning, and action can be taken. You have no idea how much
    is being hidden by the MP gov’t.

    By the way, I’m one of the “tawdry” people that like to go into Rack N Roll because if you went in sometime, it’s just a nice place to hang out and talk to friends. I wish Dave the best of luck with his lawsuit.

  42. Chrissy said on 13 Feb 2008 at 4:19 pm:
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    First of all none of the girls in the pictures have made a formal complaint. Second did you stop to think that an outside agency would need to investigate so there wouldnt be a conflict of interest. That just may be why Manassas Park Police hasnt done anything.

  43. Michael said on 13 Feb 2008 at 6:55 pm:
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    I also curious, are these “girls” or women wearing wedding rings? Begs the question of “proof” under secrecy. Secret laws are problem laws.

  44. Anon said on 13 Feb 2008 at 8:25 pm:
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    Park’d, this my elaboration via example…

    As a parent of children in this community, I would love to serve on the school board. But after seeing members of the school board described as “co-conspirators” on this blog for their approval of the new school building - I went to one of the two town hall meetings on the subject and not a single person at the one meeting I attended said anything negative about the price tag (there were concerns about taking it out of the other side of town, but that was the extent of it.) I had heard from a neighbor that the tone of the second was pretty much the same. So how are individual members of the school board labeled as “co-conspirators” to new construction that was discussed in a public forum where the majority of the opinion was for the building? Granted, it was a poor financial decision, but it was one made in public, to some degree by the public, and we all have to live with the result. I don’t recall any screaming about the price tag of that building.

    It not the only characterization that I feel Greg has gotten wrong about the leadership of MP, but it is the one that I can recall that makes me most leery of running for office or serving this community in a public fashion. That characterization is untrue, unfair, and damaging. Conspiracy takes place behind closed doors, not in two town hall meetings.

    MP Resident, elected and public officials should be subject to scrutiny, not distortions like the one I mention above. If you don’t like the decision that someone has made, that doesn’t make public officials “co-conspirators.” Perhaps short sighted and less than intelligent, but neither are illegal, which is the implication of the term “co-conspirators.” (A side note - even though I don’t have the luxury of posting from work, given time I am perfectly capable of elaborating for myself..)

    There is scrutiny and there is abuse and I think that in the example I cited, a line was crossed. I have every confidence that it will be crossed again. And that hurts people - their families, their professional reputations, things I value too much to put myself out there (heck, I think you would have to be crazy to do that now.) I have good ideas regarding fiscal responsibility for the schools and community and quality of life issues like overcrowding, things that could change this community for this better if I ran for the Governing Board or put my name in for the school board. But I won’t. Yes, I would be willing to withstand scrutiny to serve, but not the abuse that gets dished around here.

  45. MP Resident said on 14 Feb 2008 at 12:22 am:
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    “I don’t recall any screaming about the price tag of that building.”

    Fran Kassinger had her concerns about it, but chose to vote to approve it.

  46. MP Resident said on 14 Feb 2008 at 12:34 am:
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    Incidentally, that school has a per square foot cost about DOUBLE that of any school built in Virginia as of May 2007 when I researched it.

    When I asked the school board why, they replied that they needed a larger building because of block scheduling. I don’t know if they really misunderstood the question. It seems pretty clear to me–I asked not why the building is the number of square feet that it is, I asked why each square foot costs so much.

    Either the school board is a bunch of morons or they think the citizens are.

    As for me, I gave up on them. I’ll just sit back and watch the economy in MP implode and hopefully I’ll soon be living in PWC without even having had to move.

    The tax monster that is MP is going to run out of food and die.

  47. MP Resident said on 14 Feb 2008 at 12:56 am:
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    “A side note - even though I don’t have the luxury of posting from work”

    When you work with equipment that you paid for as well as internet service that you pay for, sitting at a desk you paid for in a chair you paid for in a house you’re still paying for then you can post from work and it isn’t a luxury.

    If it’s your employer’s equipment, internet connection, desk, chair, and building and they allow you to post from work then I suppose it is a luxury.

  48. Lafayette said on 14 Feb 2008 at 1:49 am:
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    MP Resident,
    Too bad the market’s so bad. There are plenty of very affordable houses in PWC. Those real estate taxes are enough to make me choke compared to PWC’s.
    BTW-I loved you comment about the “luxury of posting”.

  49. Anon said on 14 Feb 2008 at 6:21 am:
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    You’re right, Fran who objected and then went along anyway. I don’t recall any of the electorate screaming. Maybe I wasn’t at the townhall meeting that you were at.

  50. park'd said on 14 Feb 2008 at 10:05 am:
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    Laffy: you got that right. I wait with bated breath for my new tax assessment. My house has lost minimum 100k in value in the past 2 years and paying 4k+ a year in taxes on a house that might be worth 250-275k these days is absolutely RIDONKULOUS and frankly criminal and unconstitutional. I bet people in Potomac don’t pay anywhere near this kind of tax. I should be paying about 3k a year at the most.

  51. Lafayette said on 14 Feb 2008 at 11:02 am:
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    I know you would love to lay rubber and peel out of the city. Here’s an example of PWC RE Tax Bill
    Total Assessment $350,600=Annual RE Tax of $2,936.
    I hate to add salt to a wound, but all need to be aware of the significant difference. Good luck over there. There are brick single family homes in West Gate now going for $130k-$250k, and they were selling for $400-$500k. The prices really can’t bottom out much more. We’ve heard of one house that the starting bid is $89k? This is very nice house. This unbelievable.

  52. Anon said on 14 Feb 2008 at 11:34 am:
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  53. park'd said on 14 Feb 2008 at 11:39 am:
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    I’ll bet you those 130-250k homes in westgate are still being taxed at a value that is significantly higher than what they are currently selling for. It’s a crime what goes on in this city but nobody cares. As long as the illegals can stay without fear of crackdowns then they don’t rock the boat and the pols just keep going with their scams. This area has a reputation as being home to nothing but illegals so nobody wants to live here. Something has to give or the city will implode.

  54. park'd said on 14 Feb 2008 at 11:42 am:
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    Lou Dobbs.

    I agree.

    Dobbs would love to tear a sanctuary city like MP a new a$$ on tv for a scandal like this. He dreams about stuff like this. Greg, get your docs and your facts and call Dobbs.

  55. Patty said on 14 Feb 2008 at 1:13 pm:
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    I had a wild idea. If all the citizens of Manassas Park marched into governement headquarters asking them to re-assess all your property values based on current sales, it would cause them to faint. Then while they are unconscious decent people could come in to run the government. The decent people should then call the FBI to round up these crooks while they are still in their stupor.

    So, when is the next election for the City of Manassas Park? Or did the current powers take away elections?

  56. MP Resident said on 14 Feb 2008 at 1:49 pm:
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    Nov 4, 2008. 5 of them are up for re-election.

  57. MP Resident said on 14 Feb 2008 at 2:30 pm:
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    Hey Park’d, go to http://www.homesdatabase.com and look up
    MP6617545 — a townhouse in Mosby Ridge selling for $139K.

    Is that the sound I just heard the assessor for MP {censored} a brick?

  58. park'd said on 14 Feb 2008 at 4:58 pm:
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    MP Resident: No, because their assessments are never up to date. They are going to pull the values from the past year’s averages that have been sold before this town really hit the crapper. The values have really only hit the floor in the past 6 months since subprime got big. I guarantee you that they will send me an assessment in the 300k range and houses in my development can’t even sell at 275k. If it hits 230K which is what I paid for it then I’m officially up the creek. I bought at the bottom when they first built this development and if it hits that amount then values are less now than when they first started building the development in 2002. I can’t imagine what all these Hispanics are feeling now that all bought within the past 2 years and all paid 350-375k which is what these places were going for 2 years ago. Walking away is the only sane thing to do at that point. How low can this town go? If the local govt. doesn’t do something quick to make this town more desirable to people looking to buy then there’s no way the town can make it an additional 2 years. Allowing illegals to run rampant while trash, blight and unenforced zoning infractions are out there for everyone to see certainly is not what will do that.

    Patty: Won’t happen because most of the town is eyeball deep in the illegal immigration quandary and don’t want to rock the boat. I can’t fathom paying 4+k a year in taxes on this place now when the values could potentially hit the value of what I paid for it when the houses were first built 6 years ago. Prices were still affordable then and we are almost near that point now. If it gets below what I paid for it then I’m going to have to really think long and hard with my mom who is a real estate agent and my brother who is an attorney as to whether or not I am going to just walk away from the house. Not really much point in sticking around in a town where home values are dropping like a rock in deep water and trash, blight, corruption, and cultural shock are all I get for my trouble.

  59. AnonymouS said on 14 Feb 2008 at 9:22 pm:
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