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Corey Stewart Pre-Announces LG Bid
By Greg L | 14 February 2008 | Virginia Politics, Prince William County | 102 Comments
What would be happening in Richmond this year if Corey Stewart was Lieutenant Governor and presiding over a Senate that is determined to obstruct any efforts to address the illegal alien problem in Virginia? We would probably see the Senate pass more than a couple weak bills on this issue during the first half session, which would be a huge improvement. The Washington Times covers Corey Stewart’s rumored candidacy on the front page of the metro section in today’s edition, and it’s looking like Corey is going to announce his candidacy pretty soon. This is great news, although it would be tough to lose him as chairman of the Prince William Board of County Supervisors.
Lieutenant Governor Bill Bolling is not an illegal alien apologist by any means, but we haven’t seen much evidence of him working the Senate and pushing for important policy reforms. To the extent he may have done so, the results aren’t that encouraging, which makes me believe he simply has other priorities. Corey Stewart, who has seen this problem manifested in so many disturbing ways in Prince William and helped lead the charge for reform would certainly be more dedicated to this fight. I can’t imagine Dick “Do Nothing” Saslaw getting a pass from Corey Stewart, who I am sure would be pulling out all the stops in order to help advance much-needed reforms such as E-Verify and Section 287(g).
Simply put, Corey would regard Saslaw much like a pit bull would look at someone wearing a steak suit covered in gravy. “Snack time!”
Traditionally, the Lieutenant Governor’s job has been about as meaningful as the Vice Presidency of the United States. Unless the terrible occurs, there’s very little to do other than preside over the Senate when it is in session and do a lot of campaigning. Corey Stewart could well re-craft that role into being something far more meaningful, a role that would help make the Senate of Virginia more responsive to the concerns of the Virginia electorate and more representative of the people, and that would be right up his alley. His candidacy is intriguing, and I look forward to hearing more about what he wants to bring to Richmond. We sure need some help there, as the Senate’s obstructionism has been the key reason why it’s been so hard to get meaningful solutions for transportation, earmarks reform, the illegal alien issue, and a whole host of other important initiatives.
Should Corey be successful, this should shake things up a bit in Prince William. I can see Gainesville Supervisor John Stirrup taking the chairmanship, and at least in Gainesville there are plenty of good potential candidates for the District Supervisor Job. There are a couple of other potential Lieutenant Governor candidates out there, but I haven’t heard anyone saying that they clearly intend to run if Bill Bolling runs for Governor, as expected.
At this point, you’d have to assume Corey Stewart is the front-runner for the Republican nomination.
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Congratulatons! You were a convenient stepping stone for this climber.
I’m torn, I would love to see Corey leave PWC… on the other hand, is his support really that strong outside of PWC? And isn’t anyone at least a little bit unhappy about the fact that Corey has never had any attention of sticking around as Chairman for his full term? It isn’t like Corey hasn’t been telling people for ages that this was his plan all along…
Has anyone else thrown their names in (Republicans or Democrats)?
The Honorable has never had any honorable intentions regarding PWC. If he loses can he return as Chair??? Need to know that before I vote.
With Bolling and Stewart at the helm then they would surely make this state a non-desirable place for illegal aliens to dwell. The problem with that scenario is that it would be a day late and a dollar short. McAmnesty and the two dems are sure to grant amnesty in the form of learning English and paying fines stipulations (haha right…) so in 2 years these guys running Virginia will be of no consequence to any of us. It’s all planned.
To answer OV’s question, there is no requirement that one resign in order to seek a higher office. Hence, like Chairman Sean, should Corey not prevail (presuming he runs) he will remain PWC Chairman.
Pretty amazing how local guys all of sudden become statewide candidates. Didn’t Corry get elected just a few years ago?
Greg, are you suggesting that Lt. Gov. Bolling has done a poor job presiding over the state senate this year? Just curious.
I hope we continue to find candicates like Corey. But people had better wake up and see who very well may be in the White House after November: Obama’s campaign office sports Che Guevera flag. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56293
Has Corey Stewart ever explained HOW he could go to the opening of a Woodbridge mosque last summer and announce that “I put Faisal Gill on the ballot”?
What did Stewart mean by “I put Faisal Gill on the ballot.”? What did Stewart do to accomplish this unworthy aim? Does Stewart believe his actions were wise? Would he do it again?
Does Stewart intend to run for LG stonewalling these questions? Does he think that no one will ask them? I think there will be a need for Corey Stewart to answer up front just what he meant by “I put Faisal Gill on the ballot.”
Stewart would do an excellent job if elected but I do think he is jumping the gun a little bit to go for in in 09. He just does not have enough experience yet.
Unfortunately the LT GOV has NO SAY in say anthing other than presiding over the senate. His illegal immigration platform would be taken to the media but he cannot do anything different than Bolling. To get anything done substancially in the senate we would need about 11 new members next term. Lets see Stewart improve PWC before we give him a statewide position. Rhetoric is a great start but we need actions to back him up.
In order to run statewide one needs to
1. Raise money, Raise money, Raise money
2. Balanced conservative agenda
3. Normally have a long background working conservative circles.
Right now Stewart does not have any of these three working for him. Thats why he is probably 4 years too early. One issue candidates rarely make it. Lets see how he deals with the budget and other things before we give him the lt. gov.
Anon 1:26 makes some good points, and I might even agree, on balance, but on the other side, doesn’t it benefit Corey to run now, when he has just made a big splash on an important issue?
Corey is a legend in his own eyes. He doesn’t have a chance in a state wide election. His support for Gill will be the millstone around his neck and I for one will never forgive him for that, and will do my best to alert the folks in the rest of the state about it.
If the way Corey has presided over the BOCS is any indication how he’ll preside over the senate if elected LG, he’ll have my unmitigated support.
Interesting report on a bill of Delegate Marshall’s that has Corey’s support:
lkafka@potomacnews.com
Thursday, February 14, 2008
RICHMOND - In an effort to quell long-standing zoning ordinance violations, Prince William County officials sought a legislative remedy, and it appears they’ll get it.
Two legislators have ushered identical bills through the House of Delegates and Senate, essentially ensuring passage of a simple practice that officials hope will cause new landowners to straighten out zoning violations.
HB 80 and SB 427 have each passed their respective houses.
They put notices on land deeds so prospective buyers can see that the property has an active zoning violation. And this won’t preclude interested parties from buying the land, said Del. Robert G. Marshall, R-Prince William, the sponsor of the House version.
“We’re trying to focus our cleanup efforts in certain parts of the county, around the city of Manassas and along the Route 1 corridor, and we think this will go a long way toward that effort,” said Prince William County Chairman Corey A. Stewart, R- at large.
When county zoning officials seek to remedy violations, the legal process can draw out over a long period of time, said Dana Fenton, the county’s lobbyist.
He said buyers of the lands wouldn’t be directly responsible for remedying the violations unless the county took specific action against them, he said.
He said this process of notifying future owners would encourage compliance.
HB 80 has already passed through the Senate Courts of Justice and is now up for consideration in the full Senate.
I like Corey Stewart a lot, but do think this is maybe a wee bit too early. However, you never know, especially not knowing the rest of the field at this point. We did pretty much come out of nowhere to win the BOS Chairmanship.
I do agree that the Gill stench will stick to him somewhat. It remains my biggest complaint against Bolling as well.
That should be “he” instead of “we”!
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Now what?
He would have to go to the meetings though.
Anonymous said on 14 Feb 2008 at 1:26 pm:
By 2009 Corey will have more experience and more solid plans than Obama has today, but that hasn’t stopped the worshippers from bowing down at Obama’s feet now has it?
Let’s finish the job in PWC first before moving on. Nothing has been implemented yet, so why the hurry to move on? I have to wonder how aggresive a Lt. Governor Stewart would be. I see him as poltically calculating to a certain extent, so he may not be the pit bull that Greg envisions.
By the way, I don’t have to like him or his ambitions. He is a politician; merely a tool to acheive objectives. People need to get over the “personality” thing (i.e. Chuck Colgan) and see who is going to get the job done. I’m tired of nice guys who don’t get anything accomplished other than good intentions.
How long has Corey been in office?
Is PWBOCS his first post?
What can he take credit for doing?
Former Senator Jay O’Brien intends to run for Lt. Governor.
Jay has a solid conservative track. He has served in the Commonwealth as a Delegate and Senator. He is a solid social and FISCAL onservative. No elected official comes closer to being a true Ronald Reagan Republican–big tent Republican than Jay.
Senator Jay O’Brien has a proven track record in getting legislation passed on illegal immigration and is on record since 2001. It was his bill that made it illegal for non-residents to obtain a drivers license in the State of VA. His record speaks for itself.
Corey has served 1-full year as Chairman following the special election, and was re-elected for the full four year term in November 2007. Prince William needs his leadership. Abandoning his chairmanship to run a statewide campaign makes me very, very nervous.
“”"Former Senator Jay O’Brien intends to run for Lt. Governor.
Jay has a solid conservative track. He has served in the Commonwealth as a Delegate and Senator. He is a solid social and FISCAL conservative. No elected official comes closer to being a true Ronald Reagan Republican–big tent Republican than Jay.”"”
As opposed to Corey Stewart, whose tent is so big that it includes the imprisoned Abdurahman Alamoudi’s former chief lobbyist.
Don’t forget that O’Brien asked the HOD-51 Convention not to nominate Faisal Gill because sharing a ballot with Gill would make O’Brien’s own reelection more difficult. Stewart and the others didn’t care.
Now Gill lost (as expected) but so did O’Brien (not expected, and totally avoidable.)
I hope O’Brien whups Corey “I Put Faisal Gill On The Ballot” Stewart. When is Stewart going to explain his actions in putting Faisal Gill on the ballot?
Well said, Ari. I agree, Corey is needed to finish the job here. As you illustrate, there are other capable candidates that can fill the Lt. Governor role.
I imagine most folks in PWC that support Corey have a similar opinion as the one I expressed. The timing is not good for this, and it comes off as overly ambitious, IMHO.
jfk,
I think so as well. I want to see him finish what he has started here first.
Jay O’Brien wasn’t all aboard the Faisal bandwagon either - big plus.
Ari,
Nice to see you. Very well stated. We need him here more than the state needs him.
jfk & M64,
Count me in too. We still have a lot of work to do here in PWC!
Outside of parts of PWC who gives a care who supported who during last years races? I’ll tell you.. NO ONE! This point black will NOT be a factor whatsoever. Both Stewart and O’Brien need to prove they can raise a ton of money, and get insider support for their nominations from the ultra conservatives that decide conventions and nominating primary’s. NO one outside of his district his going to want to back somone who lost a state senate race two years ago for whatever reason. It is just wishful thinking at this point. O’Brien just does not bring a whole lot of excitement to the table when he speaks and Stewart is way and I mean way too inexperienced to run yet. O’Brien would do an excellent job but he is running up a mountain when the rest of the state sees he just lost. It will be difficult to impossible to get the financial backing with a loss fresh in most peoples minds.
The person who makes the most backroom deals and gets party insider backing normally always wins. Right now I have to believe both Stewart and O’Brien are extreme longshots.
Most I can muster on the subject is that the Honorable should finish what he has started and not run….away.
I May Disagree with Corey on some issues, But He is fair. At the Immigration hearings he allowed NO applause from ANY side, Unlike Dick Saslaw who allows it only if it helps HIS Bills. I Have the Video up on my page of saslaw interrupting a speaker who was speaking against his bill
My money is on Chris Saxman for the nomination, if he wants it. He’s a balanced, experienced polititian who hasn’t made his career on a single issue.
“”"the convention that nominated Mike Gill for Occoquan supervisor”"”
I meant Mike May.
park’d said on 14 Feb 2008 at 11:07 am:
McAmnesty and the two dems are sure to grant amnesty in the form of learning English and paying fines stipulations (haha right…) so in 2 years these guys running Virginia will be of no consequence to any of us. It’s all planned.
In the past few months your stance has changed from being a positive one to try and help remove the invaders from the area to one that looks now like you have become complacent. If you are just going to continue to complain about the situation and not try to do anything about it, you are doing exactly that the illegals and their supporters are hoping for. Quit whining!
Loudoun Insider said on 14 Feb 2008 at 1:50 pm:
I like Corey Stewart a lot, but do think this is maybe a wee bit too early.
That’s what they were saying a couple of months ago about Obamarama and look at where he is.
“James Young said on 14 Feb 2008 at 1:31 pm:
Anon 1:26 makes some good points, and I might even agree, on balance, but on the other side, doesn’t it benefit Corey to run now, when he has just made a big splash on an important issue?”
Although it pains me to admit this, I must agree with James Young. Now might be the best time for Corey to run.
Corey Stewart is known outside of PWC for one issue: Illegal Immigration. He will be able to tap into some serious frustration at the lack of legislation coming out of Richmond regarding this issue to gain his initial momentum. Once he gets going, he can talk about his other considerable conservative creds on taxes, controlled growth, Life, etc.. I think many folks over estimate the “Gill Effect” outside of PWC, and it really effected no one except Gill last November. It won’t be a factor in the 2009 LG race. With either a less-than-100%-Conservative or a full-on socialist in the Whitehouse, conservatives will fight like hell to get one of their own in the LG and Gov seats.
“”"I think many folks over estimate the “Gill Effect” outside of PWC, and it really effected no one except Gill last November. It won’t be a factor in the 2009 LG race.”"”
It depends upon the level of awareness of terrorist threats, including Hezbollah threats, in 2009.
When the now-imprisoned American Muslim Council founder Abdurahman Alamoudi spoke in front of the White House in 2000 he proclaimed his support for two groups, Hamas and Hezbollah. Hamas will probably not strike outside the Mideast.
Hezbollah is another matter. It is angry that its leader Mughniyeh got assassinated and is threatening worldwide attacks.
Hopefully Hezbollah is just bluffing. That is my preference. But people who know more than I do say that it is not, and that such attacks are coming.
Terrorism may be a bigger issue in 2009 than immigration is in 2008. And if it is then Stewart will have some explaining to do. What did Stewart mean when he told a Woodbridge mosque last summer that “I put Faisal Gill on the ballot.”?
How did Stewart do that? What was Stewart’s relationship with Gill and Gill’s former employer, the terrorist-led American Muslim Council?
People will ask. Stewart will stonewall. We will see how Stewart’s alliance with Gill plays out.
Like many others here, I emphatically disagree with the position of Corey Stewart and a number of other “good Republicans” concerning the suitability of Faisal Gill, and he knows that. Further, I can not forgive Corey or the other politicians who supported a man of such questionable background and future motives as Faisal Gill. However, I support Corey’s stand on every other issue I can imagine.
My primary concern is “where can Corey Stewart serve us best”? Aside from supporting his financial benefactor, Faisal Gill, what noteworthy impact has Bill Bolling had as LG? I certainly would NOT support his bid for Governor.
I’m afraid that if Corey Stewart were to become LG, his influence would be similar to that of Bolling, zilch. I believe that at least for the nearterm, Corey can better serve our interest as Chairman of the PWCBOS than as LG.
I did find it interesting to see how Chairman Stewart in the WaPo article about this candidacy stated that he is the pre-emminent Republican in Northern Virginia.
Does anyone else really think that?
His wife, maybe? And Gill?
I don’t care who runs, I’m NOW focused on getting out the word to those in my circle that Mark Warner is a fake. I’ve emailed his website 5 times about what he’ll do about illegals and have yet to hear back.
This should be the focus…”Stop Mark Warner” and the last time, I voted for him!
Warner is a disaster. Angry, just curious, how do you feel about George Allen?
Here is a question that people in the rest of the state will want answered. Corey is against illegal immigration. In the WashTimes article he points out that his wife is an immigrant.
Question: Is his wife a U.S. citizen or is she at least on the path to citizenship?
Question: What made him fully support Faisal Gill, someone with VERY questionable ties to terrorism and lacking in good judgment over a MUCH better qualified candidate in Julie Lucas?
Question: 11 Feb WashPo article states: “Corey A. Stewart (R-At Large), chairman of the Prince William Board of County Supervisors, said he has confidence that the School Board will investigate the New York audit thoroughly. “But if things get out of hand and [School Board members] don’t take charge of the situation, the Board of Supervisors will have to do something,” he said. “The School Board needs to look at everything very critically and openly and shouldn’t take anybody’s word for it that nothing was done wrong.”
SubQuestion 1: When does the PWCBoS have jurisdiction over the School Board?
SubQuestion 2: Is not the School Board accountable only to the voters of PWC and NOT the BoS?
Question: While what Mr. Stewart did for PWC concerning illegals is admirable, what experience does he truly have in dealing with state-wide issues?
George Allen posed questions to Jim Webb about various cities and towns in Virginia. Webb did not even know where the localities were. Which will Corey be on this, a George Allen, or a Jim Webb.
If it is true that Jay O is running for LtG., you can bet my vpap.org that my money will be with him!!!
Krutis said on 15 Feb 2008 at 9:35 am:
“His wife, maybe? And Gill?”
LMAO - good one
JL,
You have asked some excellent, critical questions. I do not think that the BOCS has any oversight over school board matters in Virginia. I will be interested to learn what you find out.
Why isn’t Corey considering a run against Nichols? He would actually have a vote then.
Corey is so full of himself. But that could be because no one else thinks of him doing something great.
Corey is inexperienced and takes on people who marches to his tune. He also pays money for their time and he appoints a favorite to Committees that pay money. It’s all about money and buying people to like you.
Corey is not ready for State and he needs to stick with his current position and do what is right for our County.
Jay OBrien has experience and he needs to have support for what ever he takes on.The group, Corey and Faisal saw to it that O’Brien didn’t go anywhere.
Bolling is like Corey,he doesn’t mind who he steps on and he speaks out of both sides of his mouth.
Jay O’Brien lost his last election. Not usually a good position to move up from. He also voted for H.B. 3202, the abominable transportation bill that has now been repealed.
I hate George Allen! Back in 1991, I worked (can’t say where) at a sensitive place and while doing so, met a young man out of college, he was 5 years younger than me. He was white and told me all I needed to know about George the racist Allen! Back then, he mentioned how is roommate did some internship under Allen and he stated that all he did was use the N word daily and talked about blacks negatively.
So George Allen can go to hell and I’m glad his Macaca comment bit him in the butt. In today’s world, there is NO PLACE for a George Allen except a dumpster.
BTW…I NOW feel the same about Mark Warner although not as bad. STILL, I’m doing all i can to prevent him from being elected!
Mark Warner is no George Allen, thank goodness!
Personally, THIS Maccaca is FOR George Allen. I have met him on MANY occassions and he is ANYTHING but a racist - a word thrown out so casually by those who are too weak to do anything and feel that the world owes them a living.
Check out THIS clip that was done just a FEW years before the “Macaca” incident (you can stop it after “Krusty the Klown”):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtPVNvQSr1M
Now it is true, George collapsed like a house of cards when the libs jumped him for the failed attempt at humor - his damage control was absolutely HORRIBLE which showed America that he really was not ready for The White House. He did so much good for the State of Virginia…it’s just a shame that we have Webb in his place. Well, hopefully we can get that seat back to an (R) in the next election.
It was absolutely pathetic when you heard Larry Sabato state, “Well, I heard from a friend who knew someone who was roomates with George Allen at UVa who once met someone who went hunting with a guy who mentioned that he went hunting with George Allen and he used “the n-word” when pointing to a mailbox and everyone laughed.” I think the fact that the ENTIRE UVa football team came forward and said that George Allen NEVER used that word speaks volumes, not 15th-hand information.
The BOCS only has authority over the School Board insomuch as the BOCS controls the school’s county-provided revenue. But even there, with the standing agreement to allocate 56.75% of the yearly budget to the schools, the BOCS have little leverage there unless they want to abandon the revenue-sharing agreement (which would open up its own can of worms).
You know, back when I was a young pup, a freshman in Highschool, I met a girl who had come up in a different part of town, and had attended a different Junior High (remember those?). She was stunning (comparitive terms, she was 14, so was I). I asked her out. She accepted. We went on a few dates, we started going steady (remember that?). As soon as that became known, all of these kids started “volunteering” all of this information about her. “She’s a slut” “she did so and so, AND so and so”. Everyone “knew” someone who had slept with her, or played “5 minutes in the closet” with her, but nobody had actually been the recipient of her “favors”.
Suffice it to say, I was a dumb-assed 14 yearold, who couldn’t handle all of the rumor and inuendo, so I dumped her. Nevermind that during the month or so that we had been together, she had been nothing but the sweetest, nicest girl I could have asked for, and had done nothing that would indicate that her “rep” was true. It wasn’t, but I wasn’t smart enough at the time to figure that out. SHe was heart broken, but she moved on, and afterwards wouldn’t give me time of day. I don’t blame her.
So where am I going with this? I “hear” a lot about George Allen being a “racist”. Lot’s of people “claim” to know someone who knew someone who heard Allen use the “N-word”. So, we dumped him for it, and ended up the big losers in the deal.
“”"He also voted for H.B. 3202, the abominable transportation bill”"”
So did Ken Cuccinelli, and he’s running for AG after winning reelection by 100 votes.
It ought to be pleasant to see him get his butt kicked in a state-wide election.
Batson D. Belfrey: “I “hear” a lot about George Allen being a “racist”. Lot’s of people “claim” to know someone who knew someone who heard Allen use the “N-word”. So, we dumped him for it, and ended up the big losers in the deal.”
Quite right! Allen’s a good man. Too bad he got railroaded by the moonbats and the MSM.
Of course, it’s forgivable that a senior Democrat U.S. Senator was an Exalted Cyclops of the KKK, i.e. Robert Byrd (D - WV). I guess since he’s a Democrat he can’t be a racist. [sarcasm]
Such a double-standard.
Let me repeat what I have said many times. George Allen wouldn’t have been anything or anywhere, had it not been for the fact that his father was a Redskins coach. He didn’t seem very bright trying to act the cowboy with his boots, ten gallon, hat, and snuff. Whether he is a racist or not, I don’t know.
I’m just glad he’s out for now.
James Webb isn’t much of a substitute. - And then I think about the time when Ollie North ran for the senate!!! EEEEK!
As for WVa’s Byrd - I sent him a letter telling him it was time to quit. Term limits look pretty good in most cases. But the longer they stay in, the higher their retirement pay, I believe, and it’s not ease to let go of money and power.
What’s going on with funding Stewart’s anti-immigration initiatives? When Stewart was running for reelection he never mentioned that PWC had a $50 million deficit and couldn’t fund what he is proposing.
I saw a TV report which said that PWC officers have received ICE training, and the other 494 have not. Is that accurate?
Uh, can anyone say inflated sense of self importance?
Like many others, I’d love to see Corey Stewart out of Prince William County. But I have to admit I will enjoy watching him humiliated in a state wide election even more. The self-described “pre-eminent Republican in Northern Virginia”??? Hahaha–I wonder if Mr. Cuccinelli agrees. Or Mr. Albo?
Get a grip Corey. Time for a reality check. Fear mongering worked well in PWC in 2007 but it won’t cut it state wide in 2009. Here’s a good idea: hang a big banner on the tall black building at the Springfield mixing bowl. It worked really well for George, Sean, Jerry.
JM
The lack of funding has been WELL KNOWN, by the Honorable, since the board was updated in September, 2007 AND before. Many times I pointed that out again through the election and was villified very often here for doing so.
Cripes. Can’t imagine why he didn’t mention it, can you? Last APRIL when it became clear that this economic disaster was staring PWC in the face the BOCS had the option to adjust the tax rate by 2 or 3 pennies. Mrs. Caddigan and Mr. Jenkins, who have years and years of fiscal experience were handily criticized for supporting this.
Look on the county website, there is an audio available for every meeting going back several years. Listen for yourself. It’s been discussed over and over and over and over and over………
The response I’ve received here when I bring this up is that we won’t have this deficit when the illegals leave.
The good news is that the $51 million shortfall is shared with the schools.
Thanks for the tip. I will. That is my task. Find out how this mess occurred, what Stewart knew and when he knew it, and organize the info online so others can find it.
I will start in April 2007, since that is when you say “it became clear that this economic disaster was staring PWC in the face.”
Stewart’s idea of running for statewide office when he is leaving PWCs finances in a wreck may not be a winning strategy for Mr. I-Put-Faisal-Gill-On-The-Ballot.
On the other hand, abandoning PWC to its devices after bankrupting it sounds like something Corey Stewart would do.
Go back to the meeting in April where they decide what tax rate to advertise. You will hear that discussion. Go to the county website and find the presentations that have been given to the BOS. They are all there. I think they are under the Budget and Management Analysis office. It is all there. All of it.
There are presentations from the Finance Manager in December or January that speak of this. The presentation of the Capital Projects Plan addressess it…….
This is a train wreck or as I have called it between Illegal Immigration and declining real estate revenues this is a PERFECT STORM.
Of course there are those that think it’s all my immagination…..
Krutis said on 15 Feb 2008 at 8:12 pm:
But the longer they stay in, the higher their retirement pay, I believe, and it’s not ease to let go of money and power.
Have you ever seen an armored car following a hearse in a funeral procession?
Yup, called the spouse in the limo.
If Stewart cared about this county and it’s citizens he would want to stick around and get a handle on illegal immigration right here, before moving on. He needs to finish what he helped to start, instead of leaving. If he decides to move on, then all we really were to him, was a stepping stone. I will be very disappointed in him, if he moves on before the resolution is fully funded and implemented.
Don’t get an anxiety attack, “Batson”: I wasn’t arguing anything; hence, there was nothing with which to agree.
I was simply raising a question, an issue which Corey should and probably is considering as he mulls/mulled his options.
As for JL’s questions, perhaps now is the time for Julie Lucas to prove just how qualified she is, or is not, by taking the lead on the Waltz situation. And explain why she supported hiring someone to lead our government schools with a DIRECTLY questionable background.
And why does innuendo fand rumor-mongering about George Allen surprise you, “Batson” and “es_la_lay”? That is the stock in trade of most commenters here.
“fand” = “and”
You George Allen symphathizers can keep at it but the people of Virginia hav spoke and WE…sent Allen on his way!
Going back years before the incident that caused him to lose, I knew the dude was a racist and am glad he lost. In fairness to him, I do have friends that attented the HBC (Virginia State University) and they mention how that when Allen was in charge, he gave the Black Colleges alot of money (through state programs) that helped them universities but imo, he had a “seperate but equal” plan in mind when doing so.
Again, “glad Allen is gone”! …END OF STORY!
Thank you, “Angry Blackman!,” for demonstrating how the race hustlers can have it both ways and use the nuclear bomb of political rhetoric to smear anyone who pays insufficient homage (or payoffs) to the grievance lobby. Doubtless, had Allen opposed funding for historically black colleges in opposition to a “separate but equal” mentality, he would have been decried as a “racist” (see Ward Connerly). Absurdly, you cite that support as support for a “separate but equal” agenda. I’ve known George Allen for nearly 20 years. Not as intimately as many, though we have many friends and associates in common. Anyone who calls him a “racist” is ignorant at best, and simply a politically-expedient liar at worst.
…but jimmy, you seem to forget so quickly…it is soooooooo easy to accuse those who disagree of being racist if a difference in skin color happens to exist.
AGAIN…”The People of Virginia Spoke” and we sent George Allen PACKING which is probaly the end of anymore political aspirations he will have!
The man is a racist and I watched the video of him calling the young man “Macaca” and yes he did intend for it to be racial.
I could care like ZERO of how long you or anyone else has known this clown and I’m just glad we got rid of him!
Well, “Fredo,” I haven’t forgotten anything, and you’re right: it is “easy to accuse those who disagree of being racist if a difference in skin color happens to exist.” That’s why I rarely do it, absent affirmative and compelling evidence.
Why you have to couple agreement with belittlement simply demonstrates your pathological attitudes and behavior.
And “Angry Blackman!,” saying the same thing over and over again doesn’t make it true. I know Herr Goebbels thought so, but on accusations like this, we should be interested in truth, not politically-expedient propaganda.
James Young, have a great day partner! No matter how you try to spin it, “Allen is gone…poof..History and I take pride in that I did my part”!
Skin color issues are for those with small minds which does NOT apply to me however if it makes you feel better then do as you please but WE BOTH KNOW that there is nothing you can or would do to anyone like me so best you relax and let that blood pressure come down some. (LMAO).
You are correct in one aspect though Einstein…saying the same thing over does not make it true however “Allen is gone” is this is FACT!
NOW…back to the fight against illegals and my continued support of Help Save Manassas! BTW, you’ll find a large portion of those who were instrumental in sending Allen packing, now giving their support to a great organization like HSM!
Ahhhhhhhh jimmy, so now YOU’RE the one to decide who is and who is not a racist….based upon what YOU consider to be “compelling evidence.”
:)
…and belittlement? Huh?? What you talking about? Oh, in calling you jimmy, vice James?? Why do you suppose you’re so widely known here as jimmy? …think on it a bit; perhaps it too has something to do with “compelling evidence.”
“Fredo,” you’re such a dunce that you just can’t take “yes” for an answer. Yes, I do sometimes judge those whom I find to be “racist,” just as I judge those whom I find to be “idiots,” like you. And just as you choose those whom you belittle, ironically, hiding your own little identity behind a pseudonym.
But nothing you or “Angry Blackman!” says is likely to ruin my day, particularly today. You see, I learned today that I will shortly be arguing a case before the Supreme Court.
It is therefore little wonder that you continue to belittle me. I guess belittling one’s betters is the last refuge of one so little as yourself.
Jim,
Interesting how you single Julie Lucas out for this. I did not think you though so highly of her, but then again for someone NOT in her district, everything you write always comes back to her now, doesn’t it??? Milt Johns is THE Chairman, but knowing you think Julie would be the right person to take the lead is a nice change!
The School Board has already taken the lead with the situation and has met to specifically discuss the “Draft” Audit marked “Confidential, not for use with the public, exempt from FOIA.” Interesting how a confidential document was “leaked” to people here don’t you think? It is also interesting that the Board Member in New York that was going after Dr. Walts’ head has now backed off and is taking a “wait and see” approach with the Final Audit.
As far as Dr. Walts’ “directly questionable background”…. Jim I would think YOU of all people would appreciate Dr. Walts fighting the Teacher’s Union in New York!!! This discussion has been in the press numerous times. With regard to the current School Board in Greece, NY it seems they are mad because Walts negotiated a “good deal” with regard to his lifetime health benefits, but that is THEIR problem for agreeing to that.
I know the PWCS Board Members well enough to know they would never agree to that. This all seems politically motivated to me and sour grapes for others. I think the PWCS Board has acted accordingly and will continue to do so when the Final Audit is released.
So back to my questions that you did not address….. why is the Chairman of the Board of County Supervisors acting as if he has any control over the School Board with their Superintendent and threatening to take action if the School Board does not address the situation to Corey’s level of approval? The only authority the BOCS has over the School Board is allocating the funding. Is he saying he will withhold funding for students if he does not like what the School Board does with regard to Dr. Walts?
John
Well, John Light, I agree with you completely on this issue. Preliminary audits are ususally filed with the intention of forcing reponses to open questions. I have been the “victim” of several DOJ/OIG audits in the past where the preliminary findings were based on information available not complete or final. By the time the final came out, it usually looked like a rose in summer.
It also appears that he was subject to a board whose primary interests were not the community or the children, but themselves. Hmmm……. that can result in disaster.
The Honorable has a history of publicly stating that he will insert himself into school issues as he sees fit. Reminds me of the former Sheriff Stoffregen claiming to be the highest ranking law official in PWC just to gig the PD. Very similar…. There may be some basis for it as I am sure the Honorable would not legally overstate his bounds, but if there is, it is largely out of practice or very remote control which he appears to be maximizing again for his own benefit, certainly not for the community’s gain.
PWC Residents need to hold their elected officials accountable.
Within a month of being sworn in to office Corey Stewart went public expressing his interest in seeking the office of LT. Governor. The only way Corey won’t run is if he can’t raise the money, and raising money has never been his strength.
In the mean time Prince William has the highest foreclosure rate in the state. 50% of the homes for sale are foreclosures. The budget shortfall is 55 million dollars not factoring in the recent state budget cuts. We don’t have enough police officers, and after the death of Kyle Wilson we learned that more firefighters are needed.
Our education system is failing…drop out rates are high, student test scores fall below the national average, schools are overcrowded, teachers salaries are below the national average, and to fund the immigration resolution we had to raid our rainy day fund. Libraries for Montclair and Gainesville are on hold and the new stadium for the P-Nats?
Remember the pledge to NOT raise taxes?
“”"you’re right: it is ‘easy to accuse those who disagree of being racist if a difference in skin color happens to exist.’ That’s why I rarely do it, absent affirmative and compelling evidence.”"” — JY
What JY is admitting here is that while he “rarely” makes accusations of racism “absent affirmative and compelling evidence,” sometimes–albeit “rarely”–JY does so.
As when a friend of his, a former “Director of Government Relations” for the terrorist-led American Muslim Council, ran for office. The evidence for JYs rantings was somehow never at hand.
JY sounded like Al Sharpton as he foolishly argued that his friend had been duped, and that anyone who didn’t agree was prejudiced.
By the way, isn’t JY a minor PWCRC official at the precinct level? My impression is that he is the under-assistant alternate in charge of getting the sugared donuts for meetings. But judging by his mammoth girth he eats them all before anyone else can get any!
JM is lying, again. I never said “anyone who didn’t agree was prejudiced.” Most probably weren’t, and even if they were, on some level, gave no evidence of such sufficient upon which to base such an accusation.
Some who didn’t agree certainly were. I don’t even recall if JM was among them. He may well have been, given his penchant for guilt-by-association accusations against someone who has been cleared of all accusations of wrongdoing. If he was, then my comment was certainly based upon some specifically racist or prejudiced comment made by him.
On the other hand, I certainly never accused Greg of being a “racist,” or “prejudiced,” as some have. To the contrary, Greg has never uttered or written a single racist word, as far as I know. He has consistently couched his efforts in terms of the rule of law. Some (not all) commenters here have, on the other hand, made such statements, and I have reluctantly made such comments.
Of course, JM reveals his childish nature — a nice counterpoint to his childish logic — when he attacks me on a personal level. Of course, if he did so to someone who agrees with Greg, his comment would be edited.
Finally, as to JL’s comments, why is it so “interesting”? Julie Lucas voted to hire Waltz, and therefore bears some responsibility for his behavior/qualifications. Yes, Milt Johns is the Chairman (he, too, voting on Waltz’s hiring), but leadership is not always a function of office/position. I certainly wouldn’t urge her (or any elected official) to follow JM’s example and assume guilt, but serious questions have been raised, and need to be investigated fairly and thoroughly. I know fair and thorough investigation is not in vogue here — witness those who maintain their hatred for Faisal Gill notwithstanding the outcome of such an investigation — but it should occur, nevertheless, and Lucas is in a position to seek it.
You write that “everything you write always comes back to her now, doesn’t it???” Well, no, actually. YOU were the one who injected her into this conversation (remember?); mine was a rejoinder to the original comment made by you (i.e., she was “a MUCH better qualified candidate,” with which a majority of 51st District Republicans disagreed). I merely pointed out that she is now presented with the opportunity to demonstrate whether your assertion has any basis in fact. Why you apparently fear that opportunity speaks volumes.
Aristotle - do you have any thoughts as to why the Honorable can’t raise money? Just wondering.
One Voice,
He has gotten this far on the good will and pocketbooks of the grassroots GOP-Committee activist. It is going to take a lot more than that to run for LG.
Why should anyone support him? It’s just too soon for him to ask for anything more and expect to get it.
The economic downturn is an external factor, but all the more reason supporters are ready to see results.
Funding an immigration resolution by raiding the rainy day fund is something you would expect from Democrats but not Republicans.
This wasn’t a “raid” on the “rainy day fund”. The contingency fund is an unallocated annual budget item used to handle things like extra unplanned snow and ice removal during a budget cycle. You spend it every year, unlike a “rainy day fund”, which is NOT being raided, and actually grew this year despite budget challenges.
Thank you for your thoughts. I don’t trust him with the future or the present of this community. He does not appear to be very interested in long term plans or programs. I don’t think community results are his focus. He strikes me as being more interested in personal results.
While not surprised I was nevertheless stunned to see him proclaim himself as the “pre-eminent republican in Northern Virginia” and then further in the article indicate that “he held Prince William together” during the last election. I wonder what other elected Republicans in the area thought about that. I can’t imagine that would help him in the region or statewide for that matter. We have family in southern VA and they are not very interested in folks from Northern Virginia running ‘their’ state! NOVA is like NYC to New York State.
I did not get the impression that ‘they spend it every year’ as you did. I did not hear that at all. I think you are inserting words. I heard that it was available. But the audio will be accesible shortly.
Oh, the only reason the large reserve grew is that other things were cut to grow it so the AAA bond rating would be preserved. You do put quite a spin on these things!!!!!
John Light,
Another 100% agreement with you concerning Dr. Walts, Prince William County School Board, and interference by the BOCS.
One Voice,
I thought the contingency fund was like a savings account that municipalities keep for emergencies, to help it through hard times, and to, yes, preserve bond ratings.
Have I missed something here?
I am most concerned over the amount of money being spent in this county over things where we do not have complete control.
Unfortunately these fund names aren’t readily distinguishable from each other for us laymen. There’s what’s termed a “rainy day fund” which is used to tide us over in case of a natural disaster, severe economic downturn, or some other unforeseen problem, and in order to keep our bond rating we have to maintain that at something like 7% of general fund expenditures. Then there’s this “contingency fund” which is sort of a slush fund to deal with unanticipated expenses that happen during a budget cycle. The expectation is that the contingency fund is either used every year, carried over to the next fiscal year, or invested if they can’t figure out how to spend the money (a rather unlikely occurrence in local government). By having a contingency fund, you can deal with mundane budget hiccups without undercutting the financial position of the county.
Most of the time it’s used to handle snow and ice removal when we get hit with a big storm. This has been a mild year in that regard, so instead of paying overtime for snowplows and such, we can use those funds to help us realize some savings in the school system and in public services that would otherwise go to illegal aliens.
My back-of-the-envelope calculations suggest by spending this money we could reduce expenditure requirements by between ten and forty million dollars annually, with about 2/3 of that savings happening in the school system.
Just imagine a few more trailer-free elementary and middle schools in the county…
Dolph, thank you.
JY,
No Jim, you are wrong again (I keep noticing a pattern with you, Jim, wrong on SO many issues!!!). With regard to me asking why Corey commented on handling Dr. Walts if the School Board fails to do so, no, I DID NOT single out any one Board Member and did not understand why YOU DID. The entire Board is handling this issue and because the situation was discussed in closed session no one will really know which Board Members pushed for what with regard to what to do next.
People in Ms. Lucas’ district know she is a leader and fights hard for what her district needs. I realize YOU ARE NOT in her district, but those who are in her district know. You obviously do not know her at all if you feel she fears anything. With regard to your comment about the 51st convention…. you hang on to your feeling that, that farce of a convention was legitimate and I will hold onto the truth along with the majority of the voters who voted for Nichols over Faisal. I personally do not know ANYONE who supports terrorism or was a spokesman for a terrorist organization. My friends KILL terrorists, Jim.
Let’s face it, Jim, you support Faisal, who has direct ties to terrorists, you are against Dr. Walts who spoke against the Unions. I really have to wonder where your loyality lies. How are things going in the Tom Kopko camp, Jim? Also, please explain to me, and the readers on here, WHY with you, EVERYTHING keeps coming back to Ms. Lucas. She is NOT EVEN in your District, Jim. Is it that you WISH you lived in the 51st??? Ms. Lucas won her last election by oh, what was it again, 73%??? 75%???? How has EVERY ONE OF YOUR candidates done lately?
“”"James Young said on 19 Feb 2008 at 5:44 pm:
JM is lying, again. I never said “anyone who didn’t agree was prejudiced.” Most probably weren’t, and even if they were, on some level, gave no evidence of such sufficient upon which to base such an accusation.
Some who didn’t agree certainly were. I don’t even recall if JM was among them. ””"”
During Faisal’s failed campaign JY repeatedly accused me (on his own trashy blog) of being prejudiced, without any evidence whatever. JY often referred to me as “Psychotic Racist Jonathan Mark” or PRJM.
I assumed that what JY did to me he also did to others.
Has Jim forgotten so soon? It was just a few months ago. Google the phrase “Psychotic racist Jonathan Mark” and see JYs accusations for yourself.
http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&q=%22Psychotic+racist+Jonathan+Mark%22&btnG=Google+Search
If I really were a psychotic racist, and JY really had seen evidence that I was, would JY not remember it? Yet JY now claims that he cannot remember whether he called me a racist or not.
“”"He may well have been, given his penchant for guilt-by-association accusations against someone who has been cleared of all accusations of wrongdoing.”"”
Wrongdoing is subjective. I maintain that by serving as “Director of Governmental Relations” for the terrorist-led American Muslim Council in 2001 JYs candidate acted wrongly. I never maintained that JYs candidate acted illegally.
The distinction between wrong and illegal is one that as an attorney JY ought to understand. However, this distinction seems to escape him.
“”"If he was, then my comment was certainly based upon some specifically racist or prejudiced comment made by him.”"”
Which a few months later JY cannot remember. Again, if JY really believed that I or anyone was a psychotic racist wouldn’t he be able to remember why?
Clearly, JY is a person who makes claims without evidence. If he had evidence of a serious charge, against me or against anyone, then JY would remember that evidence a few months later.
There is a reason why JYs role in the PWCRC has been progressively reduced to that of the under-assistant substitute on a precinct Refreshments Committee. Obviously, JY pissed off too many people for too long and was removed from positions of authority.
“”"Yes, Milt Johns is the Chairman (he, too, voting on Waltz’s hiring), but leadership is not always a function of office/position. I certainly wouldn’t urge her (or any elected official) to follow JM’s example and assume guilt,”"”
Guilt can be a legal term. Show me where I ever accused JYs candidate of committing a crime.
I say JYs candidate acted wrongly, harmfully, showed poor judgement, provided encouragement to terror supporters, etc.
“”"I know fair and thorough investigation is not in vogue here — witness those who maintain their hatred for Faisal Gill”"”
I don’t hate him, I just didn’t want him passing laws for me in the Virginia House of Delegates. I didn’t want JYs candidate setting an example that one can go from an organization led by someone serving a 23-year federal sentence to the Virginia legislature.
I do, however, hate those who endorsed him for the nomination–Stewart, Cuccinelli, Lingamfelter, McQuigg and Bolling. Bolling was just hustling for campaign cash (Faisal gave Bolling about $15K), but that is no excuse.
“”"notwithstanding the outcome of such an investigation — but it should occur, nevertheless, and Lucas is in a position to seek it.”"”
It is not the job of those who grant security clearances to investigate whether a person’s political judgement and associations are wrongful. That is the job of voters.
As long as there was no evidence that JYs candidate had or would provide classified information to unauthorized persons then JYs candidate was entitled to keep his clearance.
No one that I know of accused Gill of mishandling classified information. Michelle Malkin said that potentially he might do so someday, but she did not accuse JYs candidate of it either.
We feel JYs candidate displayed poor judgement and harmed the US in working on behalf of and under the partial authority of a now-convicted terrorist, Abdurahman Alamoudi, at the AMC organization which Alamoudi founded, funded and led.
If Gill had known that Alamoudi was funding Al-Qaeda then probably Gill would be guilty of a crime, but I certainly don’t assert that Gill knew that.
“”"mine was a rejoinder to the original comment made by you (i.e., she was “a MUCH better qualified candidate,” with which a majority of 51st District Republicans disagreed).”"”
Given the overvotes at the HOD-51 convention we don’t know that. We do know that Julie Lucas, not Faisal Gill, won the non-overvoted precincts.
Doesn’t matter much now. Julie’s chances of winning in 2009 are less than they would have been in 2007, because she will be facing an incumbent. Cuccinelli, Corey Stewart, etc. took the PWCRCs best shot at the seat and squandered it on someone whose record as a lobbyist made him radioactive.
Someday Ken Cuccinelli perhaps, Corey Stewart certainly, will understand that.
Lost me on the back of the envelop calcuations. Are you suggesting we abolish the debt based reserve every year? Remember, the bond rating, which is based on having that account keeps our borrowing interest rate down…… so before we get to trailer free schools, which is a very ambitious and admirable goal, we might want to think about that.
Clearly the responsiblity of budgeting, planning and being prepared and assuring a community that it could withstand a disaster is such a simple thing. Just like a household budget and it can be done on the back of an envelope! Quick, someone call Moody’s….
Is it me, or does Jimmy Young seem a lot like Eric Cartman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Cartman)???
RE-SPECT MY AU-THOR-ITY!!!
I also see that Jimmy did not adress any of JLs questions - maybe he should be called “the artful dodger”, much like a certain President we once had.
JL, are your fantasies so strong that you can’t even remember what you wrote in the same comment thread? Didn’t you say “Question: What made him fully support Faisal Gill, someone with VERY questionable ties to terrorism and lacking in good judgment over a MUCH better qualified candidate in Julie Lucas?” YOU injected her name into this thread (try a “find” on “Julie,” you’ll see); I merely pointed out this wonderful opportunity for her to demonstrate the “qualifications” about which you speak so glowingly. Then again, I don’t expect logic — or even truth — from you anymore, JL. More’s to pity.
And no, I don’t live in her district, JL, as though that would deny me the right to comment about her actions, particularly since I pay the taxes that she votes (among others) to spend. ‘Matter of fact, that gives me MORE right to comment about her than you. Aren’t you living in Springfield (Fairfax County) these days?
And please accept my apologies, Psychotic Racist Jonathan Mark, for not immediately remembering all of your racist comments, psychotically and manically asserted against Faisal. It is certainly interesting that you now concede that it was little more than guilt-by-association, and already are making apologies for any potential run by Lucas for the 51st District seat. Of course, as a Democrat, there is little doubt that you would hope to see her lose, were she to run.
And as for you, cowardly “Not JY,” I have no interest in “adressing,” or for that matter, addressing the questions of the likes of JL. Why bother? He has demonstrated in word and deed on these pages his contempt for me. Why would I care to indulge his contempt? Or the contempt of a gutless wonder like yourself.
“”"And please accept my apologies, Psychotic Racist Jonathan Mark, for not immediately remembering all of your racist comments, psychotically and manically asserted against Faisal.”"”
JY doesn’t remember or describe ANY incidents of psychotic racism, so how can JY simultaneously claim that the alleged instances even occurred?
If JY allegedly observed someone being a psychotic racist wouldn’t he at least remember what it was that JY allegedly observed?
A simple explanation is that JY makes accusations without cause.
“”"It is certainly interesting that you now concede that it was little more than guilt-by-association,”"”
How clearly do I have to state that JYs candidate acted wrongly by serving as Director of Government Relations for the terrorist-led American Muslim Council? JYs candidate acted wrongly by working as a lobbyist for a radical organization whose founder and leader Abdurahman Almoudi is now in jail.
“”"and already are making apologies for any potential run by Lucas for the 51st District seat.”"”
Why would I apologize for that? It would have nothing to do with me.
The rest of the world knows that, on average, it is harder to defeat an incumbent than it is to win an open seat. HOD-51 was open in 2007, and geniuses like Corey Stewart wasted the opportunity on an unelectable baggage-laden candidate.
Anyone who runs in 2009 would have a harder time winning than she would have in 2007. If JYs candidate were to run again he would have a harder time of it.
Ah Jim Young, Mr. Legend in his own mind, like the broken clock you are right every so often and unlike you, I am MAN (please forgive the caps, only way I know on here how to emphasize a point, not yelling as caps is usually associated) enough when to admit the error of my ways. Yes, I did mention Julie’s name, however you give her power to “…taking the lead on the Waltz situation”. Isn’t that really the job of the head of the School Board?
Now yes, I do live in Fairfax County…jealous???? However, I ALSO have an interest because MY children attended the public school system in Prince William County so the teachers and the school system there will always be near and dear to me. Wasn’t that one of your many faults when you got spanked way back in the 90s, that you sent your kids to private schools? Memory may serve me wrong because unlike women, I really do not have a steal trap as to the goings on of the 90s…I worry more about what has gone on today.
Do I hate you, no, because with hate, Jim, there is always some ounce of respect, of which I have none for you. You are like the anons on here to me - you mean nothing because of your contempt of women, your slander of friends, and your questionable ties to those who work with terrorists.
Is Julie qualified??? Well, Jim, she is a Conservative Republican who continues to win victories in a strong Democratic area because she IS so effective. While you and your ilk are Conservative much like radical Islam (keep women out of politics and with veils on their faces), she is just the opposite. She is the Conservative that the Liberals made fun of George Bush when he talked about “passionate conservatism”. She has proven time and again how passionate she is about the school system be it the teachers, the children, or the staff.
You state that you don’t expect logic or truth from me. Well, if you mean the “Jim Young” brand of truth that brings about candidates like Faisal Gill or people like Tom Kopko, then you are correct. But if you mean the truth of men who are honorable, Citadel Men, then that is what you will get from me. I guess I should be honored that you are devoting so much time and effort to attacking me, a private citizen, because every moment you attack me some good, honest, politician is safe from your insults.
And the ONLY reason I brought up the fact that you are not living in her district is that you devoted so much time and effort into HER race, cutting her down, name calling, smearing women in general and bloggers on here specifically, that it caused MANY a blogger on here to wonder and ask what was it that crawled up you and caused you to go full bore against her when we NEVER read anywhere you talking about any other school board member. I personally think it is because you are jealous that time and again, she proves you wrong and wins by margins of 60+ and 70+%…something neither you, nor Tom Kopko or Faisal Gill will ever be able to duplicate.
Have a great day, Jim, and next time you are at a School Board meeting - why you DO go to them don’t you? Or are you all blog and no action? - why don’t you address the concerns that you bring up that you agree with the Unions up in New York, you agree with a leaked memo, and that Waltz should be held accountable. Hold the School Board to task. Hold them accountable. Unlike a Faisal Gill/Tom Kopko meeting, last time I checked the PWCSB meetings are not only open to the public, they are also shown on TV. Isn’t Democracy great
Gee, JL, I would have thought that they would have taught you at the Citadel that we’re a republic, not a democracy, and that democracy (two wolves and a sheep getting together to vote on who’s … er, what’s for dinner) ain’t so great. ‘Guess I’ll have to alter my opinion about the value of such an education.
As for your “facts,” you know not of what you speak. In fact, when I “got spanked way back in the 90s,” the only school-age child in our household at the time went to the government schools, not private schools. That I have used your experience — you know of what I speak, and concern for an innocent party not present precludes me from giving details here — as a good reason to keep my sons from the tender mercies of the irrationalities of the government schools should flatter you, yet you use it as a club. Interesting.
You might want to bear that in mind when you speak of “slander of friends.” My “friends” need fear no such thing. The likes of you — for whom slander is a stock in trade, and surrendered that appellation when, inter alia, you decided to engage in peurile attack — frequently confuse “slander” with “facts.”
And don’t speak to me about “honor,” JL. We both know the end of that discussion, and it’s only concern for innocent parties not present — one of whom is a woman, in fact — that precludes me from bringing facts to the attention of the forum that would belie your protestations, and reveal your comments regarding respect for “women” rather hollow, indeed. Needless to say, it renders your purported lack of “respect” for me a badge of honor which I proudly bear.
It’s also too bad that you fail to understand the difference between making gross generalizations based on the behavior of the few, i.e., going from the specific (my contempt for one woman — She Who Shall Not Be Named — in particular) to the general, and judging individuals — whether women or men — by their behavior, qualifications, and/or accomplishments. Doubtless another failing of your education. Nevertheless, it surely explains the basis for your faulty claims about Faisal.
As to Julie, I would not dispute your comments about her success at the ballot box. Obviously, this last time, it proves little, as the fact that her opponents were buffoons didn’t hurt, either. That having been said, my judgment is that her accomplishments there did not justify a “promotion” to the House of Delegates in comparison to the available Republican choice. I merely point out that the Waltz situation provides her with an opportunity to beef up those credentials should she choose to seek that office again. Whether it is MORE within the purview of the Chairman isn’t really the point, since any Member of the School Board could properly take a leadership role in investigating these questions, whether they result in condemnation or vindication, both of which are possible.
And it’s truly sad — but revealing — that you reflect blind acceptance of the caricatures of the far Left regarding my professional associations, and assume that it is adequate to suggest that the source of the questions raised is “the Unions up in New York.” That the source is “the Unions up in New York” does not mean that the questions raised are not worthy of investigation, any more than the fact that the former Executive Director of the Arkansas Education Association — whom I deposed regarding cases in his capacity as ED of the NEA-Alaska — and I shared an opinion as to the character of the late Ed Kelly calls into question the validity of that evaluation. It is truly ironic that I would be the one who frequently is accused of irrational partisanship.
And BTW, it’s “compassionate conservatism,” not “passionate conservatism.” And many criticize GWB for the phrase. Most particularly, conservatives do, because we understand that the phrase is a redundant and self-defeating surrender to compassion fascists (to use P.J. O’Rourke’s insightful phrase) of the far Left.
I am not a writer, not knowing how to put words to paper. I am better working with children and I am the one in the shadows, keeping watch out for the truth on things. I am Jim’s wife, and the woman John describes when he comments - and puts it so nicely (keep women out of politics and with veils on their faces) - about Jim Young’s politics. If so, he hasn’t done a very good job.
I have been a member (voter) on the PWCRC since it was founded, for more than 15 years. I was Vice Chairman-stand-in for a couple of months when John lived in the county. I have been a member of the PWCRWC just about as long, and have held a few offices. I was Treasurer of the PWC YRs. I have been to every state convention (except one) since we have lived in Virginia.
Two of my three children have gone to public school (one from 1991-98; another from 2002-04). I know Julie and I like her I know her passion that John speaks of. I also know John and his kids. I know Jim Young and his politics. Yes, we have cancelled each others’ vote out once or twice. But I really want to reply about Corey Stewart. Yes, I am on his band wagon. Last month he came and spoke at the PWRWC members. This man is down to earth and is ready for PWC to let go of his apron string and get a handle on illegal immigration now that he has opened Pandora’s box. It is time for the voters to finish what Corey started.
First to B. Young, please know I was not referring to you in any way with my comments. Jim’s hatred towards Ms. Lucas being in office, and other comments he has said on multiple blogs and threads, is why I said the comment I did about “keeping women out of office.”
As far as Jim Young’s comments… I find him once again bringing up my ex-wife to be below the belt, even for him. My comments about Jim with regard to women are based on PUBLIC comments he has made on multiple blogs, not private statements he has made to me multiple times when he, and I, were friends. Private statements should be kept private, but public statements everyone has a right to respond to.
Anyone who has been through a divorce knows that there are two sides to every story and Jim can choose to believe one side if he so chooses, but Jim, like me, is also a father and should not be bringing this issue up in public because it is not only me involved with this, but my children. To help remove any doubt to readers since Jim has now “implied” many false things here, I think it speaks volumes that I have full custody of all three of my children.
Jim, you can hate me as much as you want, but bringing up such a personal issue when I am only referring to your public comments is reprehensible.
You consider yourself honorable? Wow, I think if Greg put that up as a poll you would find out what the majority of people think.
You also say that what I said is “hollow.” What is “hollow” Jim is you now acting as if you are trying to help Ms. Lucas by suggesting she take the lead with the current school situation, saying this would help her “beef up credentials should she choose to seek office again.” As if you would ever support her for anything? In fact you even recently posted on a blog that you would not support her if she ran again for a higher office. Did you forget you said that? So, why should anyone believe you are genuine with your comments towards Ms. Lucas when you recently said what you did about her? If you have had a very recent change of heart, wonderful, but very, very doubtful.
What exactly are you trying to say when you said, “it surely explains the basis of your faulty claims about Faisal?” Jim, one of my last comments about Faisal here on BVBL I not only stated facts, but put up several links for people so they could see with their own eyes what I was referring to. You don’t have to believe me, you can take the Department of Treasury’s word for it.
So bring it on when it comes to debating me on the issues, but leave my family out of it.
Wow. You attack me as misogynist, but when someone alludes to facts which only you would understand, and which would, if revealed, demonstrate that you’re hardly an appropriate person to be making such a charge (perhaps, suggesting that you would be well-advised to back the Hell off, given your own record?) and then play the wounded victim? Right out of the far Left playbook. I didn’t “bring[] up your ex-wife.” You did.
So stop whining about my allusions to facts known to you, but unknown to the casual reader. If you don’t happen to like that, stop making your outrageous, foolish attacks. I am a little sick of it, and if you expect me simply to sit back and take it, you obviously know me less well than you claim to.
There you go again, JL, confusing “hatred” with “contempt.”
And isn’t it interesting that the woman closest to me felt compelled — out of character — to jump in to rebut your outrageous charge? I suppose it makes you feel good to make such outrageous charges, but they shrivel when facts about specifics are presented.
And lying. I have “hatred towards Ms. Lucas being in office”? To the contrary, I was happy to see her reelected to her current office. You seem to be unable to contemplate that someone might be perfectly happy to have her where she is, simply because I didn’t support her for another office, or more accurately, found a better candidate for that other office. Indeed, you can’t seem to contemplate the fact that someone who declines to support her efforts to achieve another office “hate” her. More’s to pity.
To the extent that I have any contempt (wrongly belittled by you as “hatred”) at all, it’s the despicable behavior with which her supporters have treated Faisal Gill. You people are poison.
And as for “debating the issues,” you might want to try it some time. Please, oh, please, explain to me how the following constitutes “debating the issues”:
“I keep noticing a pattern with you, Jim, wrong on SO many issues!!!”
“YOU ARE NOT in her district….”
“you hang on to your feeling….”
“I personally do not know ANYONE who supports terrorism or was a spokesman for a terrorist organization.”
[Good for you; neither do I.]
“Faisal … has direct ties to terrorists….”
“She is NOT EVEN in your District, Jim.”
“How has EVERY ONE OF YOUR candidates done lately?”
And let’s not forget these gems:
“Ah Jim Young, Mr. Legend in his own mind, like the broken clock….”
“Now yes, I do live in Fairfax County…jealous????”
“Wasn’t that one of your many faults when you got spanked way back in the 90s, that you sent your kids to private schools?”
“You are like the anons on here to me - you mean nothing because of your contempt of women, your slander of friends, and your questionable ties to those who work with terrorists.”
“You state that you don’t expect logic or truth from me. Well, if you mean the “Jim Young” brand of truth that brings about candidates like Faisal Gill or people like Tom Kopko, then you are correct. But if you mean the truth of men who are honorable, Citadel Men, then that is what you will get from me.”
“you devoted so much time and effort into HER race, cutting her down, name calling, smearing women in general”
“Have a great day, Jim, and next time you are at a School Board meeting - why you DO go to them don’t you? Or are you all blog and no action?….”
Methinks that Mr. Light hit a nerve with Jimmy “Cartman” Young - haha. Truth must hurt, Jimmy, to have your wife come out to defend you - lol. Why don’t you let the readers make up their own mind. Look around this site and we will find time and again you blathering like an idiot. Take a break from blogging, Jimmy, it only works you up and makes us laugh.
Angry Blackman!: We will give the Dems one Jim Young for, oh I don’t know, help me out here, who would be a good trade, lol
I have nothing to fear from truth, “Not JY.” To the contrary, truth is my friend. Since you cower in anonymity, it’s obviously your enemy.
Sorry to tell you this John Light but your little darlin’ Julie Lucas needs to be grateful she was able to keep her seat on the School Board.
As a candidate JL failed to lead and manage her convention process tightly enough, she didn’t have a platform, the campaign was disorganized, she made poor choices, and I lost all respect when she filed an appeal but gave up the fight way too soon.