As a candidate JL failed to lead and manage her convention process tightly enough, she didn’t have a platform, the campaign was disorganized, she made poor choices, and I lost all respect when she filed an appeal but gave up the fight way too soon.

Angry Blackman!: We will give the Dems one Jim Young for, oh I don’t know, help me out here, who would be a good trade, lol

So stop whining about my allusions to facts known to you, but unknown to the casual reader. If you don’t happen to like that, stop making your outrageous, foolish attacks. I am a little sick of it, and if you expect me simply to sit back and take it, you obviously know me less well than you claim to.

There you go again, JL, confusing “hatred” with “contempt.”

And isn’t it interesting that the woman closest to me felt compelled — out of character — to jump in to rebut your outrageous charge? I suppose it makes you feel good to make such outrageous charges, but they shrivel when facts about specifics are presented.

And lying. I have “hatred towards Ms. Lucas being in office”? To the contrary, I was happy to see her reelected to her current office. You seem to be unable to contemplate that someone might be perfectly happy to have her where she is, simply because I didn’t support her for another office, or more accurately, found a better candidate for that other office. Indeed, you can’t seem to contemplate the fact that someone who declines to support her efforts to achieve another office “hate” her. More’s to pity.

To the extent that I have any contempt (wrongly belittled by you as “hatred”) at all, it’s the despicable behavior with which her supporters have treated Faisal Gill. You people are poison.

And as for “debating the issues,” you might want to try it some time. Please, oh, please, explain to me how the following constitutes “debating the issues”:

“I keep noticing a pattern with you, Jim, wrong on SO many issues!!!”

“YOU ARE NOT in her district….”

“you hang on to your feeling….”

“I personally do not know ANYONE who supports terrorism or was a spokesman for a terrorist organization.”

[Good for you; neither do I.]

“Faisal … has direct ties to terrorists….”

“She is NOT EVEN in your District, Jim.”

“How has EVERY ONE OF YOUR candidates done lately?”

And let’s not forget these gems:

“Ah Jim Young, Mr. Legend in his own mind, like the broken clock….”

“Now yes, I do live in Fairfax County…jealous????”

“Wasn’t that one of your many faults when you got spanked way back in the 90s, that you sent your kids to private schools?”

“You are like the anons on here to me - you mean nothing because of your contempt of women, your slander of friends, and your questionable ties to those who work with terrorists.”

“You state that you don’t expect logic or truth from me. Well, if you mean the “Jim Young” brand of truth that brings about candidates like Faisal Gill or people like Tom Kopko, then you are correct. But if you mean the truth of men who are honorable, Citadel Men, then that is what you will get from me.”

“you devoted so much time and effort into HER race, cutting her down, name calling, smearing women in general”

“Have a great day, Jim, and next time you are at a School Board meeting - why you DO go to them don’t you? Or are you all blog and no action?….”

As far as Jim Young’s comments… I find him once again bringing up my ex-wife to be below the belt, even for him. My comments about Jim with regard to women are based on PUBLIC comments he has made on multiple blogs, not private statements he has made to me multiple times when he, and I, were friends. Private statements should be kept private, but public statements everyone has a right to respond to.

Anyone who has been through a divorce knows that there are two sides to every story and Jim can choose to believe one side if he so chooses, but Jim, like me, is also a father and should not be bringing this issue up in public because it is not only me involved with this, but my children. To help remove any doubt to readers since Jim has now “implied” many false things here, I think it speaks volumes that I have full custody of all three of my children.

Jim, you can hate me as much as you want, but bringing up such a personal issue when I am only referring to your public comments is reprehensible.

You consider yourself honorable? Wow, I think if Greg put that up as a poll you would find out what the majority of people think.

You also say that what I said is “hollow.” What is “hollow” Jim is you now acting as if you are trying to help Ms. Lucas by suggesting she take the lead with the current school situation, saying this would help her “beef up credentials should she choose to seek office again.” As if you would ever support her for anything? In fact you even recently posted on a blog that you would not support her if she ran again for a higher office. Did you forget you said that? So, why should anyone believe you are genuine with your comments towards Ms. Lucas when you recently said what you did about her? If you have had a very recent change of heart, wonderful, but very, very doubtful.

What exactly are you trying to say when you said, “it surely explains the basis of your faulty claims about Faisal?” Jim, one of my last comments about Faisal here on BVBL I not only stated facts, but put up several links for people so they could see with their own eyes what I was referring to. You don’t have to believe me, you can take the Department of Treasury’s word for it.

So bring it on when it comes to debating me on the issues, but leave my family out of it.

I have been a member (voter) on the PWCRC since it was founded, for more than 15 years. I was Vice Chairman-stand-in for a couple of months when John lived in the county. I have been a member of the PWCRWC just about as long, and have held a few offices. I was Treasurer of the PWC YRs. I have been to every state convention (except one) since we have lived in Virginia.

Two of my three children have gone to public school (one from 1991-98; another from 2002-04). I know Julie and I like her I know her passion that John speaks of. I also know John and his kids. I know Jim Young and his politics. Yes, we have cancelled each others’ vote out once or twice. But I really want to reply about Corey Stewart. Yes, I am on his band wagon. Last month he came and spoke at the PWRWC members. This man is down to earth and is ready for PWC to let go of his apron string and get a handle on illegal immigration now that he has opened Pandora’s box. It is time for the voters to finish what Corey started.

As for your “facts,” you know not of what you speak. In fact, when I “got spanked way back in the 90s,” the only school-age child in our household at the time went to the government schools, not private schools. That I have used your experience — you know of what I speak, and concern for an innocent party not present precludes me from giving details here — as a good reason to keep my sons from the tender mercies of the irrationalities of the government schools should flatter you, yet you use it as a club. Interesting.

You might want to bear that in mind when you speak of “slander of friends.” My “friends” need fear no such thing. The likes of you — for whom slander is a stock in trade, and surrendered that appellation when, inter alia, you decided to engage in peurile attack — frequently confuse “slander” with “facts.”

And don’t speak to me about “honor,” JL. We both know the end of that discussion, and it’s only concern for innocent parties not present — one of whom is a woman, in fact — that precludes me from bringing facts to the attention of the forum that would belie your protestations, and reveal your comments regarding respect for “women” rather hollow, indeed. Needless to say, it renders your purported lack of “respect” for me a badge of honor which I proudly bear.

It’s also too bad that you fail to understand the difference between making gross generalizations based on the behavior of the few, i.e., going from the specific (my contempt for one woman — She Who Shall Not Be Named — in particular) to the general, and judging individuals — whether women or men — by their behavior, qualifications, and/or accomplishments. Doubtless another failing of your education. Nevertheless, it surely explains the basis for your faulty claims about Faisal.

As to Julie, I would not dispute your comments about her success at the ballot box. Obviously, this last time, it proves little, as the fact that her opponents were buffoons didn’t hurt, either. That having been said, my judgment is that her accomplishments there did not justify a “promotion” to the House of Delegates in comparison to the available Republican choice. I merely point out that the Waltz situation provides her with an opportunity to beef up those credentials should she choose to seek that office again. Whether it is MORE within the purview of the Chairman isn’t really the point, since any Member of the School Board could properly take a leadership role in investigating these questions, whether they result in condemnation or vindication, both of which are possible.

And it’s truly sad — but revealing — that you reflect blind acceptance of the caricatures of the far Left regarding my professional associations, and assume that it is adequate to suggest that the source of the questions raised is “the Unions up in New York.” That the source is “the Unions up in New York” does not mean that the questions raised are not worthy of investigation, any more than the fact that the former Executive Director of the Arkansas Education Association — whom I deposed regarding cases in his capacity as ED of the NEA-Alaska — and I shared an opinion as to the character of the late Ed Kelly calls into question the validity of that evaluation. It is truly ironic that I would be the one who frequently is accused of irrational partisanship.

And BTW, it’s “compassionate conservatism,” not “passionate conservatism.” And many criticize GWB for the phrase. Most particularly, conservatives do, because we understand that the phrase is a redundant and self-defeating surrender to compassion fascists (to use P.J. O’Rourke’s insightful phrase) of the far Left.

Now yes, I do live in Fairfax County…jealous???? However, I ALSO have an interest because MY children attended the public school system in Prince William County so the teachers and the school system there will always be near and dear to me. Wasn’t that one of your many faults when you got spanked way back in the 90s, that you sent your kids to private schools? Memory may serve me wrong because unlike women, I really do not have a steal trap as to the goings on of the 90s…I worry more about what has gone on today.

Do I hate you, no, because with hate, Jim, there is always some ounce of respect, of which I have none for you. You are like the anons on here to me - you mean nothing because of your contempt of women, your slander of friends, and your questionable ties to those who work with terrorists.

Is Julie qualified??? Well, Jim, she is a Conservative Republican who continues to win victories in a strong Democratic area because she IS so effective. While you and your ilk are Conservative much like radical Islam (keep women out of politics and with veils on their faces), she is just the opposite. She is the Conservative that the Liberals made fun of George Bush when he talked about “passionate conservatism”. She has proven time and again how passionate she is about the school system be it the teachers, the children, or the staff.

You state that you don’t expect logic or truth from me. Well, if you mean the “Jim Young” brand of truth that brings about candidates like Faisal Gill or people like Tom Kopko, then you are correct. But if you mean the truth of men who are honorable, Citadel Men, then that is what you will get from me. I guess I should be honored that you are devoting so much time and effort to attacking me, a private citizen, because every moment you attack me some good, honest, politician is safe from your insults.

And the ONLY reason I brought up the fact that you are not living in her district is that you devoted so much time and effort into HER race, cutting her down, name calling, smearing women in general and bloggers on here specifically, that it caused MANY a blogger on here to wonder and ask what was it that crawled up you and caused you to go full bore against her when we NEVER read anywhere you talking about any other school board member. I personally think it is because you are jealous that time and again, she proves you wrong and wins by margins of 60+ and 70+%…something neither you, nor Tom Kopko or Faisal Gill will ever be able to duplicate.

Have a great day, Jim, and next time you are at a School Board meeting - why you DO go to them don’t you? Or are you all blog and no action? - why don’t you address the concerns that you bring up that you agree with the Unions up in New York, you agree with a leaked memo, and that Waltz should be held accountable. Hold the School Board to task. Hold them accountable. Unlike a Faisal Gill/Tom Kopko meeting, last time I checked the PWCSB meetings are not only open to the public, they are also shown on TV. Isn’t Democracy great

JY doesn’t remember or describe ANY incidents of psychotic racism, so how can JY simultaneously claim that the alleged instances even occurred?

If JY allegedly observed someone being a psychotic racist wouldn’t he at least remember what it was that JY allegedly observed?

A simple explanation is that JY makes accusations without cause.

“”"It is certainly interesting that you now concede that it was little more than guilt-by-association,”"”

How clearly do I have to state that JYs candidate acted wrongly by serving as Director of Government Relations for the terrorist-led American Muslim Council? JYs candidate acted wrongly by working as a lobbyist for a radical organization whose founder and leader Abdurahman Almoudi is now in jail.

“”"and already are making apologies for any potential run by Lucas for the 51st District seat.”"”

Why would I apologize for that? It would have nothing to do with me.

The rest of the world knows that, on average, it is harder to defeat an incumbent than it is to win an open seat. HOD-51 was open in 2007, and geniuses like Corey Stewart wasted the opportunity on an unelectable baggage-laden candidate.

Anyone who runs in 2009 would have a harder time winning than she would have in 2007. If JYs candidate were to run again he would have a harder time of it.

And no, I don’t live in her district, JL, as though that would deny me the right to comment about her actions, particularly since I pay the taxes that she votes (among others) to spend. ‘Matter of fact, that gives me MORE right to comment about her than you. Aren’t you living in Springfield (Fairfax County) these days?

And please accept my apologies, Psychotic Racist Jonathan Mark, for not immediately remembering all of your racist comments, psychotically and manically asserted against Faisal. It is certainly interesting that you now concede that it was little more than guilt-by-association, and already are making apologies for any potential run by Lucas for the 51st District seat. Of course, as a Democrat, there is little doubt that you would hope to see her lose, were she to run.

And as for you, cowardly “Not JY,” I have no interest in “adressing,” or for that matter, addressing the questions of the likes of JL. Why bother? He has demonstrated in word and deed on these pages his contempt for me. Why would I care to indulge his contempt? Or the contempt of a gutless wonder like yourself.

RE-SPECT MY AU-THOR-ITY!!!

I also see that Jimmy did not adress any of JLs questions - maybe he should be called “the artful dodger”, much like a certain President we once had.

Clearly the responsiblity of budgeting, planning and being prepared and assuring a community that it could withstand a disaster is such a simple thing. Just like a household budget and it can be done on the back of an envelope! Quick, someone call Moody’s….

Some who didn’t agree certainly were. I don’t even recall if JM was among them. ””"”

During Faisal’s failed campaign JY repeatedly accused me (on his own trashy blog) of being prejudiced, without any evidence whatever. JY often referred to me as “Psychotic Racist Jonathan Mark” or PRJM.

I assumed that what JY did to me he also did to others.

Has Jim forgotten so soon? It was just a few months ago. Google the phrase “Psychotic racist Jonathan Mark” and see JYs accusations for yourself.

http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&q=%22Psychotic+racist+Jonathan+Mark%22&btnG=Google+Search

If I really were a psychotic racist, and JY really had seen evidence that I was, would JY not remember it? Yet JY now claims that he cannot remember whether he called me a racist or not.

“”"He may well have been, given his penchant for guilt-by-association accusations against someone who has been cleared of all accusations of wrongdoing.”"”

Wrongdoing is subjective. I maintain that by serving as “Director of Governmental Relations” for the terrorist-led American Muslim Council in 2001 JYs candidate acted wrongly. I never maintained that JYs candidate acted illegally.

The distinction between wrong and illegal is one that as an attorney JY ought to understand. However, this distinction seems to escape him.

“”"If he was, then my comment was certainly based upon some specifically racist or prejudiced comment made by him.”"”

Which a few months later JY cannot remember. Again, if JY really believed that I or anyone was a psychotic racist wouldn’t he be able to remember why?

Clearly, JY is a person who makes claims without evidence. If he had evidence of a serious charge, against me or against anyone, then JY would remember that evidence a few months later.

There is a reason why JYs role in the PWCRC has been progressively reduced to that of the under-assistant substitute on a precinct Refreshments Committee. Obviously, JY pissed off too many people for too long and was removed from positions of authority.

“”"Yes, Milt Johns is the Chairman (he, too, voting on Waltz’s hiring), but leadership is not always a function of office/position. I certainly wouldn’t urge her (or any elected official) to follow JM’s example and assume guilt,”"”

Guilt can be a legal term. Show me where I ever accused JYs candidate of committing a crime.

I say JYs candidate acted wrongly, harmfully, showed poor judgement, provided encouragement to terror supporters, etc.

“”"I know fair and thorough investigation is not in vogue here — witness those who maintain their hatred for Faisal Gill”"”

I don’t hate him, I just didn’t want him passing laws for me in the Virginia House of Delegates. I didn’t want JYs candidate setting an example that one can go from an organization led by someone serving a 23-year federal sentence to the Virginia legislature.

I do, however, hate those who endorsed him for the nomination–Stewart, Cuccinelli, Lingamfelter, McQuigg and Bolling. Bolling was just hustling for campaign cash (Faisal gave Bolling about $15K), but that is no excuse.

“”"notwithstanding the outcome of such an investigation — but it should occur, nevertheless, and Lucas is in a position to seek it.”"”

It is not the job of those who grant security clearances to investigate whether a person’s political judgement and associations are wrongful. That is the job of voters.

As long as there was no evidence that JYs candidate had or would provide classified information to unauthorized persons then JYs candidate was entitled to keep his clearance.

No one that I know of accused Gill of mishandling classified information. Michelle Malkin said that potentially he might do so someday, but she did not accuse JYs candidate of it either.

We feel JYs candidate displayed poor judgement and harmed the US in working on behalf of and under the partial authority of a now-convicted terrorist, Abdurahman Alamoudi, at the AMC organization which Alamoudi founded, funded and led.

If Gill had known that Alamoudi was funding Al-Qaeda then probably Gill would be guilty of a crime, but I certainly don’t assert that Gill knew that.

“”"mine was a rejoinder to the original comment made by you (i.e., she was “a MUCH better qualified candidate,” with which a majority of 51st District Republicans disagreed).”"”

Given the overvotes at the HOD-51 convention we don’t know that. We do know that Julie Lucas, not Faisal Gill, won the non-overvoted precincts.

Doesn’t matter much now. Julie’s chances of winning in 2009 are less than they would have been in 2007, because she will be facing an incumbent. Cuccinelli, Corey Stewart, etc. took the PWCRCs best shot at the seat and squandered it on someone whose record as a lobbyist made him radioactive.

Someday Ken Cuccinelli perhaps, Corey Stewart certainly, will understand that.

JY,
No Jim, you are wrong again (I keep noticing a pattern with you, Jim, wrong on SO many issues!!!). With regard to me asking why Corey commented on handling Dr. Walts if the School Board fails to do so, no, I DID NOT single out any one Board Member and did not understand why YOU DID. The entire Board is handling this issue and because the situation was discussed in closed session no one will really know which Board Members pushed for what with regard to what to do next.

People in Ms. Lucas’ district know she is a leader and fights hard for what her district needs. I realize YOU ARE NOT in her district, but those who are in her district know. You obviously do not know her at all if you feel she fears anything. With regard to your comment about the 51st convention…. you hang on to your feeling that, that farce of a convention was legitimate and I will hold onto the truth along with the majority of the voters who voted for Nichols over Faisal. I personally do not know ANYONE who supports terrorism or was a spokesman for a terrorist organization. My friends KILL terrorists, Jim.

Let’s face it, Jim, you support Faisal, who has direct ties to terrorists, you are against Dr. Walts who spoke against the Unions. I really have to wonder where your loyality lies. How are things going in the Tom Kopko camp, Jim? Also, please explain to me, and the readers on here, WHY with you, EVERYTHING keeps coming back to Ms. Lucas. She is NOT EVEN in your District, Jim. Is it that you WISH you lived in the 51st??? Ms. Lucas won her last election by oh, what was it again, 73%??? 75%???? How has EVERY ONE OF YOUR candidates done lately?

Most of the time it’s used to handle snow and ice removal when we get hit with a big storm. This has been a mild year in that regard, so instead of paying overtime for snowplows and such, we can use those funds to help us realize some savings in the school system and in public services that would otherwise go to illegal aliens.

My back-of-the-envelope calculations suggest by spending this money we could reduce expenditure requirements by between ten and forty million dollars annually, with about 2/3 of that savings happening in the school system.

Just imagine a few more trailer-free elementary and middle schools in the county…

I thought the contingency fund was like a savings account that municipalities keep for emergencies, to help it through hard times, and to, yes, preserve bond ratings.

Have I missed something here?

I am most concerned over the amount of money being spent in this county over things where we do not have complete control.

Another 100% agreement with you concerning Dr. Walts, Prince William County School Board, and interference by the BOCS.

While not surprised I was nevertheless stunned to see him proclaim himself as the “pre-eminent republican in Northern Virginia” and then further in the article indicate that “he held Prince William together” during the last election. I wonder what other elected Republicans in the area thought about that. I can’t imagine that would help him in the region or statewide for that matter. We have family in southern VA and they are not very interested in folks from Northern Virginia running ‘their’ state! NOVA is like NYC to New York State.