Open Thread
By Greg L | 22 February 2008 | Uncategorized | 77 Comments
Once again, have at it…
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Literacy Night at Mullen Elementary last night. Kindergarden through Second-grade kids to put on a short program and get a book for coming. Tuesday night, I get a recorded message calling my house urging me to come. A few minutes later, I pick up and hear the same message in Spanish. (Comically, at the end after the Spanish, in English a speaker says “Press the Star key in you want to hear this message again”).
Yeah if you live around here you’re not even free from being cold-called in Spanish. By a local school.
At the program, the Principal makes a big show that they have a translator there for those who speak Spanish. And after all of her remarks the translator translates them into Spanish while Americans who can speak English sit and suffer. The worst aspect of this to me is that the little kids are apparently being taught, on a daily basis, that this country is bilingual and business is to be conducted in two languages.
Also the signs that kids were holding up signaling the crowd to be quiet please were done in English and again in Spanish.
Also the Principal said something to the effect, I don’t have the exact quote, of read to your kids and it’s not important that it be in English, it can be in any language and they’ll benefit from it, it can be in Spanish or German or any language. A dubious message for the Spanish underclass in my opinion.
In mitigation, the kids’ songs and poems and the tedious 45-minute storytelling segment were English-only, it was just the Administration’s remarks that were translated. But it was enough to really make me question what my child is being exposed to over there.
I notice also that despite this hue and cry about how you were going to have to present ID to get into our schools around here, nobody took any ID of anyone coming in (or walking away with the kids). I guess that would be at odds with the idea of the translator and of doing everything possible to make lawbreakers feel nice and cozy in Prince William County and with the Prince William County school system.
Why give away books, why not fake ID cards next time or maybe coupons for Dish Latino.
Anyone see Governor Kaine at our court house?
I thought you all might find the 2 below stories interesting.
The Centreville “community” has been holding public meetings to find “solutions” to the illegal immigrant problem.
The meetings appear to be bizzare and Orwellian “group think” brainwashing/propoganda sessions designed to seduce the public into believing the only solution to illegal immigration is accept it as inevitable and feel sorry for illegals.
http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/article.asp?article=93703&paper=62&cat=104
My favorite exceprt from this story is: ‘He also noted that “illegal immigrants aren’t criminals” but, because they don’t have papers, people think they are.’
http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/article.asp?article=93706&paper=62&cat=104
Good one from the article: “The impact of illegal immigrants on us is negligible…”
So….you thought that schools were for the education of little minds? The NEA works on a slightly different premise: those minds are most vulnerable to societal assumptions that ensure future NEA dominance.
Rick Bentley,
Is Joyce Sigmundsson still the principal at Mullen?
No. It’s a Mrs. Notyce. Her e-mail is at http://www.pwcs.edu/mullen/addresses3.htm .
Correction I meant Ms. Notyce, I have no idea whether she’s married or not.
The Only Way Liberalism survives is thru the dominance of the educational system
The McMansion on Lomond Drive is in foreclosure. It was to be auctioned on January 30. Anyone know any further details?
Why do all of our local newspapers suck so bad? I assume that most are probably owned by the same company, because they seem very synchronized on the issues and the spin that is put on the “news”. The Urinal Massager comes to my home occassionally, and it goes strait to the recycle bin. A terrible waste of paper, I think.
Any news on the Liberty sign? Seems like something should have been done by now.
I’ll be glad to put my own message up there. Anybody care to join me?
Loudoun,
There’s not be a Trustee’s Deed recorded yet. That place looked pretty occupied last Saturday morning when we rolled by there. They may have come up with the payment too. I doubt that one though. Maybe, once the bank owns it PCE might actually go there and take look at that entire backyard paved that the county says everything has proper approval. I’d like to see that asphalt in the back tore up and the house tore down.
Mr. Anon,
One would think, wouldn’t they.
Lafayette
Have you noticed the curtains tied back in the front windows of the house next to Frapps? Called that one in last week because of the oversized driveway (or the now undersized front yard.) It sure looks like a bording house has sprouted up with all the cars. Did you also notice that the driveway goes all the way through to the back yard. Called the one in on Westmoreland also. That driveway/parking lot is almost as big as Giant’s. Have a few more “residents” in that yellow house on Greenview. Just wonder with all of these bording houses now sprouting up that the people moving into them are the ones who have had their houses foreclosed.
City motto of Eagle Pass, Texas -
“Where Yee-Hah meets Ole’!”
Toss down a tall one next month in the name of history-
and I don’t mean just St Patrick’s Day.
Washington Post (March 20, 1908) “The Manassas
Anti-Saloon Party wins election 88 to 36. The town
will go dry on May 1, 1908.”
Vigilant1 said on 22 Feb 2008 at 6:32 pm:
Yes, I checking that place out because I turned them in for a car parking in the backyard(last Saturday), and it’s now on the side of the house. Funny thing is, it had been in the backyard for about a week before I sent complaint. Then oddly enough Monday the car was not in the backyard anymore. Hmm..
Have you noticed the concrete walkway leading around to the back of the Bishop’s old house. Two doors down from the tied curtain house.
Now, onto Westmoreland…Loudoun and I have both called the police about that truck. The last time was 2/9/08, and I haven’t seen it since. How long is the tow truck with the vehicle on the back going to stay down there. I noticed today, there’s now a For Sale sign on the towtruck. Oh, how about that small boat on Lomond just past Westmoreland? It “ship wrecked” there sometime between Sunday night and early Monday morning.
“The Blue Goose is on a trailer with no tags. Here’s a picture and go to the last page for a close up. Note the PA on the side not VA.
http://community.webshots.com/album/561184047yuacNi?start=48
Vigilant1,
You sure left no stone unturned. Did you go on down King George and see the Pinta, Nina, and Santa Maria in the yard of the house that should have been condemned 10 years ago. I wish someone would call that atrocity in. That is the worst house in Westgate, by far.
What are the truck rules for neighborhoods? I keep getting conflicting opinions. If you know them, I would appreciate you sharing the info or directing me to its source via a link.
Patty wins for the winter though…for discovering the ice house. that was priceless. Just priceless. I simply cannot imagine the damage that was done in that house.
Dolf, Lafayette,
I haven’t checked on King George. Is it on the portion of KG that is near Stonewall MS or off to the left of Strasburg? Those pics Lafayette took of zoning violations are really sickening. There is no way that situations like those photos show should be happening. I hope zoning has taken action.
With regard to trucks, it seems to me that recently I saw something about what could and could not be parked in a residential area but can’t remember where I saw it. Will scout around and see if I can come up with something. It seems to me though it depended on the number of axels (more than 2) and vehicle weight (over 10-12,000 lbs) to be considered a commercial vehicle which could not be parked in a residential neighborhood. I’ll have to check Hank’s house and the concrete walkway. The for sale sign has been down for a couple of months now and place looks empty (but you never know who has the keys.) The “blue goose” probably won’t be there long. Some drunk will hit it eventually. If the trailer has no valid plates, it is no doubt parked illegally.
Dolf,
BINGO! Here is the site - PWCPD - that spells out commercial vehicle parking restrictions.
Dolf,
Forgot to post the site. Here it is.
http://www.co.prince-william.va.us/default.aspx?topic=040036003240003425
Thank you V1!!!,
I wish I knew my trucks better. I am gunning for the tire truck on SM Dr between Copeland and Dublin. That thing just doesn’t belong in a residential area.
The Pinta, Nina, and Santa Maria are on the splashdown side of Strasburg, I think between Woodstock and Dublin…I think. It might be the other section, going towards the pool, on your left. Laf can pin point it better than I can. It is all just one big blur to me.
V1,
The zoning violations are mostly from last summer, and they have been taken care of. I’m very pleased to say, but it did take some time and effort.
That dump truck that was down on Westmoreland certainly qualified as a Commercial vehicle. It’s a crying shame those “taqueria” trucks don’t fall into the Comm. category.
I am turning the “blue goose” into Patty’s tagwatch email, and attach the photos. Tagwatch for tagless boats? What’s next?
Dolph’s right KG between Woodstock and Dublin. The 9600 block. If you are coming from the light on Strasburg go right on KG then at the end go right on Woodstock, then quick left onto the block, and the Yogi Bear and the “fleet” are on the left. The pictures are somewhere on my webshots.
I turned in the house with the Nina, Pinta, and Santa Maria, for maintaining a dump heap and was advised by the inspector that it didn’t qualify as a dump heap. Oh bother!
Back to the nea comment…I like this quote:
the public schools are the church of liberalism and their highest sacrament is abortion. To that I would add closely follwed by multiculturalism.
http://www.grassfire.org/242/petition.asp?PID=15651590&NID=1
Everyone…please sign the petition….200,000 signatures are needed. Pass the link on to everyone you know too!
Lafayette said on 23 Feb 2008 at 1:00 am:
V1,
Thanks for the info and will check out Columbus’ fleet. The Blue Goose should be eligible for “sailing” to the impound lot if the trailer has no tags on it. Give the PD a call and they can verify that. Sounds like the inspectors have free reign to make decisions on whether or not to cite a property. It’s funny you mentioned your call re the house next to Frapps and find the car had been move just after the call. Basically the same thing happened to that car on the grass on Lomond that I called in. Short time after I called the car “disappeared” and few days later the inspector called and said there was no car on the grass. I told him exactly where on the lawn it was and how long it had been there. He got a little “huffy” about the car but again I pointed out exactly wher it had been parked and if he looked at the area, he would see the dead grass where the wheels had been. It did end on a good note because he said he found other discrepancies he would cite.
V1,
You’re so right the tire tracks and dead grass are dead give aways of the problem. Well, good for them for citing other violations. I’m guessing you spoke w/ Mr. S and NOT Sr. C.
I know Mr S and Ms. J will find and cite other things we might not see or even are a violation.
I remain hopeful we will see a change in PCE’s overall attitude.
I don’t call anymore. I know do it online, and if you want to attach pictures. Michelle Casiato said just send an email to neighborhood services. Attaching the “photographic evidence” littles no room for DENIAL!. I still say more flexible hours prior to 6am, after 6pm, and on the weekend. They could really rake in the bucks for all those signs in the medians. I found a couple of good ones on 234 yesterday at Portsmouth. Take a look. This is insane and the fine is $100 per sign. I saw a day care sign, a Singles in Manassas sign, and some other.
http://community.webshots.com/album/561333843rNGkke?start=60
Loudoun,
If there are no violations over at ‘Columbus Circle’ there is no hope. How about it just qualifying for being UGLY.
All, is someone living there now? What did they need that new gargage for?
correction: garage
Loudoun,
Is it true? Is 10131 Lomond going to bite the dust? I haven’t seen that many cars parked there during the week. I thought it would be a matter of time.
Looks like neighborhood watch is coming soon. I’ll have to do some flybys.
Dolph & Loudoun,
I just went by the “fleet” on KG. It seems as though they’ve built a “patio” of sorts for “dry docking”.
If they are living there I hope it’s in that new garage. The house should be demolished for blight if nothing else.
Woodstock,
Excellent! Make sure to keep Vigilant1 in the loop so they can join us. Check your email.
I just came down Stonehouse Rd off of Williamson Blvd and all the boats and rv’s have been tagged by PWPD with orange cards for removal from the street. I will try to get some pictures later.
http://www.vdare.com/awall/voter_registration.htm
“Why Is Mexico’s Voter Registration System Better Than Ours?”
Why Does our voting machines have posted on them voting directions in english AND spanish? You Must be an American Citizen to vote and you must be fluent in English to be an American Citizen, Does Anyone smell something fishy?
For the truth about the Vogel-Tate Incident go here http://pwconservative.blogspot.com/
Here’s a list of all the racist comments made in this thread. By racist, I meand that, clearly, these comments are directed toward all people of Spanish-speaking decent, regardless of their immigration status. This is why the anti-illegal immigration crowd has problems building new members.
And after all of her remarks the translator translates them into Spanish while Americans who can speak English sit and suffer.
Yeah if you live around here you’re not even free from being cold-called in Spanish. By a local school.
Also the signs that kids were holding up signaling the crowd to be quiet please were done in English and again in Spanish.
The worst aspect of this to me is that the little kids are apparently being taught, on a daily basis, that this country is bilingual and business is to be conducted in two languages.
Why give away books, why not fake ID cards next time or maybe coupons for Dish Latino.
Why Does our voting machines have posted on them voting directions in english AND spanish?
Could Obama Turn Red States Blue?
By Chris Cillizza And Shailagh Murray
Sunday, February 24, 2008; Page A02
As Sen. Barack Obama creeps ever closer to the Democratic presidential nomination, the eyes of The Fix are more and more diverted to what a general election matchup between the senator from Illinois and Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) might look like.
Obama’s campaign released a memo shortly after the Feb. 5 Super Tuesday votes that made a similar case, noting that in six states carried by President Bush in 2004 — Colorado, Georgia, Iowa, Missouri, North Dakota and South Carolina — Obama received more votes than the top two Republican finishers combined. (Since that memo, the trend has held true in Nebraska, Louisiana and Virginia.)
It’s obvious that a handful of red states — Colorado, Iowa, Missouri, Virginia — are almost certain to be competitive whether Obama or Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) is the Democratic nominee. The demographics in those states have shifted toward Democrats of late, and the party made gains in each in 2006.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/23/AR2008022302274.html?tid=informbox
Virginia is turning blue.
Ducky….puleeezzzzzzeeee! I did not see one racist comment in those statements. The poster was merely stating that bilingualism (aka cover word in liberal terms for Spanish in our school system) is being pushed! Bilingualism means (being able to learn/speak any second language…not just Spanish…yes, that’s right….it is a choice). However, we all know that the liberal school system uses the word bilingual as a smoke screen for Spanish. You know that too! We here have every right to demand that we not turn into a Spanish speaking (or any other lanugage speaking) nation. We speak English here. Adapt or move out.
The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 24 Feb 2008 at 7:44 am:
Bilingualism means (being able to learn/speak any second language…not just Spanish…yes, that’s right….it is a choice).
Yes, Patriot, judging by your poorly constructed sentence above, I can see your public school failed to teach you proper English.
Categorize me how you want Ducky, I will fight until I die against letting 15 million lawbreakers integrate into our nation.
Obama will probably become President. But that doesn’t mean he’ll succeed at providing amnesty for illegals. It may be his waterloo, may wreck his Presidency. I can’t wait to see him try to sell universal health care when many of the uninsured are illegals.
I’m with Rick. I will fight until I die to oppose amnesty.
If amnesty occurs - once our children complete high school - we are moving to St. John’s.
I will not continue to live in America and watch it’s destruction due to the amnesty of illegal aliens.
Loudoun @ 9:31 am -
My, my; “fight until I die”. “I will not continue to live in America…” Big words but rather contradictory. First you say you’ll fight until you die, but then you say that you will not continue to live in America. How can you do both those things?
Ducky-
What did you “meand” by that? Glass houses, Miss…
Don’t criticize. It’s petty, and you’re not impressing anyone with your your own inflated opinion of yourself. You’re better than that. I’ve seen your past postings and they’re usually very well presented.
P.S. If a citizen needs the instructions in Spanish in order to vote, how did they pass their citizenship test? Stop looking for the “wrong” in every statement. The illegal alien issue, once again, is not about racism. It’s about the rule of law. It’s frustrating to beat a dead horse (apologies to equian enthusiasts) but keep at it. You present good viewpoints!
Ooops! Too many “your” ’s. Apologies!
Nader announces new run for president
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080224/ap_on_el_pr/nader
Ducky,
Every comment you cited is not racist, but further proof of “political correctness” run amuck. This manipulation is continually shown when anti-American groups seem to always drop the word “illegal” out of any statement made in defense of their actions. We fail to hear the Hispanic voice against the lawbreakers causing this problem. This is no different than the lack of outrage from the Islamic community about suicide bombings. It makes it easy to see the commitment to being an American is NOT there.
Ducky…what a come back! Wow…you are simply amazing! Of course, as usual, you liberals never address the actual point that was made. Why? Because you have no legit comeback. You always use your “other” comebacks (i.e., racism, xenophobia, grammar errors, blah blah blah, etc.). RIDICULOUS!
You’re right, Patriot, and if Ducky would go back and read his own posts he will see that they aren’t flawless either…NOBODY’S are. This “racism, xenophobia” excrement is beginning to get to me as well, but the “spelling and grammar nazis” are truly infantile.
Use the ignore button for Ducky.
Ducky’s a dude? That’s a shocker.
Oops, sorry. My entire post is grammatically incorrect.
Here is a pretty interesting webpage.
http://www.city-data.com/zips/20110.html
Krutis said on 24 Feb 2008 at 10:02 am:
Loudoun @ 9:31 am -
My, my; “fight until I die”. “I will not continue to live in America…”
Sounds like the words Alex Baldwin said if Bush was elected/re-elected. Notice that he is still in this country and he was offered a free plane ticket out by some prominent people.
DUCKY SEZ……THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!
http://www.goblueridge.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2713&Itemid=28
Someone please tell me why we are letting Mexican trucks on our roads again? This article shows why we do NOT want this.
http://www.thedailyitemoflynn.com/articles/2008/02/22/news/news15.txt
A taste of “culture” for all to enjoy!
http://www.keloland.com/News/NewsDetail6371.cfm?Id=0,66776
No, be mad at her because she’s a lying, murderous criminal!
http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2008/02/local_governments_should_enact.html
If we all work together, federal, state and local, we can do it!
http://www.northstarwriters.com/dkk106.htm
Bitter pill. If a person with a gun had killed these kids, the liberals would be screaming bloody…well, you know.
Shooters!
Ammo prices are going up! I saw an increase of 3 cents per round since I last bought target ammo a month ago.
The demand for lead, copper and brass is increasing world-wide, so stock up.
And please pass the word if you find good deals.
Lafayette,
I know in your past posts you’ve said you can get title info on properties. I’m concerned that a self proclaimed illegal and his 13 relatives abandoned his condo in the same building as mine when the idiot didn’t drain his outside faucet and it burst some pipes inside the unit and trashed the bottom two floors. They have been gone for a few weeks now. If I get you the address can you give me the name of the bank so I can write them and they can make sure the heat is on in the unit so no more pipes will bust and affect the rest of the building?
Greg, please give Lafayette my email address if she can help me. Thanks
[Ed note: Done.]
Dave in PWC,
I’ve sent you an email.
Thanks,
Chris
Johnson said on 26 Feb 2008 at 3:36 pm:
http://www.northstarwriters.com/dkk106.htm
Bitter pill. If a person with a gun had killed these kids, the liberals would be screaming bloody…well, you know.
If you haven’t already, perhaps you should e-mail that article to our illustrious govenor. It may not change his mind (and probably won’t) but at least it will show him what inaction breeds.
Johnson said on 25 Feb 2008 at 1:06 pm:
http://www.thedailyitemoflynn.com/articles/2008/02/22/news/news15.txt
A taste of “culture” for all to enjoy!
Lynn Beach at low tide!
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080226/NEWS10/802260380/-1/LIFE04
Former undocumented worker Bernard Ortiz, an Altoona resident who is now a U.S. citizen and human rights activist, told lawmakers that the proposal would reinforce negative stereotypes that are harmful to Latinos.
“All these laws will increase stereotypes, harassment, racism. It’s just more obstacles for me,” Ortiz said
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Isn’t this the idea? How is enforcing the law promoting racism? I guess they are relying on the politically correct crowd to come forward and say, OMG, there is the “R” word. We can’t have any of that going on around here. Let’s just hide our heads in the sand and maybe it will go away or give them what they want so they will not say the “R” word again.
BS!!! Let’s enforce the law no matter what they claim is racism. It isn’t since ALL ILLEGAL aliens will be affected by this, not just one group.
Time and again, courts at all levels are upholding anti-illegal alien statutes. The illegal alien lobby is getting desperate and is gasping it’s last. Name-calling , whining and finger-pointing won’t work. No matter who gets elected POTUS, we will continue the fight until the illegals are gone. The will of the people will continue to prevail, as it did last year.
No puede!
http://www.kswo.com/Global/story.asp?S=7927938
For ‘Jose,’ there is no place like the Oklahoma panhandle. This is home for me because I have never been back, he says. Never been back to Mexico since his parents brought him to the U.S. illegally when he was five. After Oklahoma enacted laws that punish employers who hire undocumented people, his family considered returning to Mexico.
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How is this our problem? No one made them come across the border ILLEGALLY and have children. The threat that the family will be broken up is BS. All of them can go back together. No one says the anchor baby has to stay here.
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But for Jose, that move would be foreign. “I’ve never been to Mexico since I was five. I have siblings that were born here. They have never even been to Mexico…and that doesn’t look like a future for my family.” Half his family members are citizens, and the others are illegal.
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Again, how is this OUR problem?
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“It really isn’t fair for the American tax dollars to provide for these people,” says Ursula Whitfield. But another leader calls the law a human injustice and warns it will only do the city harm as workers leave. I suspect we would lose some of the companies who’ve moved in recent years, says Father Bill Pruett of St. Peter’s Catholic Church.
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What benefit are they when they are not paying the proper taxes for their employees? Why isn’t the Father up in arms about the people being exploited for corporate greed and profits due to their slave status?
A self-deporter made an interesting point-she said that she had to get citizen I.D.’s for her kids to attend school in Mexico (wow, imagine that?) and in order to do that, had to denounce their U.S. citizenship. Anchors away!
Johnson said on 27 Feb 2008 at 11:54 am:
WAY COOL!!!!! That is good. If the jobs dry up here, more will be self deporting soon as well. Many states are getting tired of supporting these people and the citizens will start pressuring the legislators to do something. I think even more so than before since money is about to be tight with the economy is headed the way it is. Also more laws passed that punish employers for hiring ILLEGAL aliens will help with the self deportation.
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Another thing I saw that really stuck in my craw:
http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/immigration/entries/2008/02/26/no_more_illegal_aliens_in_the.html
PC whimps!!
Wow, my mom (school teacher) would have a field day with the back of my hands if she saw that post!!
I think even more so than before since money is about to be tight with the economy headed the way it is. Also, more laws, being passed and enforced, that punish employers for hiring ILLEGAL aliens will help.
Lafayette,
Thanks so much for your diggin the info out for me. You’re awesome!!! I’ll take your advice and mail the bank the info you found.
Medic,
Poor ‘Jose’, he just wants to stay in the panhandle that nobody else wants to stay in (tongue in cheek).
Dave in PWC,
You are welcome. Good luck over there.
Dave in PWC,
Yeah I think so too. It is not our problem that they choose to have the anchor babies and now they have to go back. Take the child with you. I am sorry if they are in HS, but you broke the law and now you ave to pay the consequences. The ole saying goes, if you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime right??
http://www.wsoctv.com/news/15425120/detail.html
Just here to do the jobs that American gangs won’t do…no, wait…what??
Medic,
You’re not old enough to have watched Baretta are you?
I agree, take those anchor babies with you when you leave and don’t let the door hit you on the way back across the river. Bet those innertube sales are skyrocketing along the US side of the border…
Dave,
I am old enough
Robert Blake as Det Tony Baretta. One of my favorites. It ended in the late 70’s I believe. I watched it towards the end. I was in my teens 
I do not remember all of the episodes, but I do remember it as a whole. Why??
I tubed down the Current River in MO one summer. Wasn’t much current because it hadn’t rained. I wound up paddling most of the way. Wasn’t as much fun as advertised.
Dave,
He had a white bird too, Floyd or Fred something like that. I thought the bird was cool, but my mom wouldn’t let me have one because they just $hit all over the place. Her words
One more step closer to the NAU:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=57228