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	<title>Comments on: The Wait Is Over, The Crackdown Begins</title>
	<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/</link>
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		<title>By: Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56801</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 23:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56801</guid>
		<description>http://www.thespeciousreport.com/news.aspx?newsnum=7070179

Don't know how accurate this is.</description>
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<p>Don&#8217;t know how accurate this is.</p>
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		<title>By: es_la_ley</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56750</link>
		<dc:creator>es_la_ley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56750</guid>
		<description>off topic:

Gaithersburg Seeks New Ways to Curb Day Laborers

http://www.news8.net/news/stories/0308/501671.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>off topic:</p>
<p>Gaithersburg Seeks New Ways to Curb Day Laborers</p>
<p><a href="http://www.news8.net/news/stories/0308/501671.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.news8.net/news/stories/0308/501671.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56744</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56744</guid>
		<description>My guess is SaveAmerica (arrogant user name don't you think?) stopped blogging because it finally occured to him that maybe more than one former Officer of the mighty PWCPD left out of disgust for the way that place is run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess is SaveAmerica (arrogant user name don&#8217;t you think?) stopped blogging because it finally occured to him that maybe more than one former Officer of the mighty PWCPD left out of disgust for the way that place is run.</p>
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		<title>By: Enough is Enough</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56738</link>
		<dc:creator>Enough is Enough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 06:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56738</guid>
		<description>Saveamerica
Do you no longer feel like slandering past members of the police department? 

Do you plan on answering how the current Chief is helping represent the law enforcement desires of PWC citizens?

I guess we should take "good time charlie" for his word. Charlie Deane answers to nobody, and he treats the lower ranks like second class people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saveamerica<br />
Do you no longer feel like slandering past members of the police department? </p>
<p>Do you plan on answering how the current Chief is helping represent the law enforcement desires of PWC citizens?</p>
<p>I guess we should take &#8220;good time charlie&#8221; for his word. Charlie Deane answers to nobody, and he treats the lower ranks like second class people.</p>
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		<title>By: Loudoun</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56681</link>
		<dc:creator>Loudoun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56681</guid>
		<description>Coverstone 7-11 Update

Monday 3:00 pm - no day laborers
Tuesday 3:00 pm - no day laborers
Wednesday 2:30 pm - two day laborers</description>
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<p>Monday 3:00 pm - no day laborers<br />
Tuesday 3:00 pm - no day laborers<br />
Wednesday 2:30 pm - two day laborers</p>
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		<title>By: Good Time Charlie</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56671</link>
		<dc:creator>Good Time Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56671</guid>
		<description>Anonymous on 5 Mar @ 6:52 am

Notice the response from Saveamerica

...................................crickets.............................</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous on 5 Mar @ 6:52 am</p>
<p>Notice the response from Saveamerica</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..crickets&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56611</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56611</guid>
		<description>SM
Having credit for a full career means you must have worked for many years in the police department.  How about helping us see the other side of this story.  Help us understand what it is that the police dept top man has done to help this country and how he is behind this crackdown 100%.  Maybe then some of these doubter will be put to rest by someone that knows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SM<br />
Having credit for a full career means you must have worked for many years in the police department.  How about helping us see the other side of this story.  Help us understand what it is that the police dept top man has done to help this country and how he is behind this crackdown 100%.  Maybe then some of these doubter will be put to rest by someone that knows.</p>
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		<title>By: Saveamerica</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56584</link>
		<dc:creator>Saveamerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 01:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56584</guid>
		<description>Nice try Good Time Charlie, but I have earned my retirement the right way...full credit for a full career, unlike others we have discussed.  So, no violation.  However, if you read the General Orders, such discussion is not prohibited and if you read my posts, you will see that I have not claimed to work there now.  I suppose you think you could do better in a supervisory position, but that was proven wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice try Good Time Charlie, but I have earned my retirement the right way&#8230;full credit for a full career, unlike others we have discussed.  So, no violation.  However, if you read the General Orders, such discussion is not prohibited and if you read my posts, you will see that I have not claimed to work there now.  I suppose you think you could do better in a supervisory position, but that was proven wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Enough is Enough</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56579</link>
		<dc:creator>Enough is Enough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 01:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56579</guid>
		<description>SaveAmerica
Not sure why you include me with your response to Good TIme Charlie.  I don't know who Moyers is.  I do know officers currently on your dept. and I know fact from fiction.  He appears to be factual.  What's your beef?
You seem to be getting off topic.  If he isn't with PWCPD why blog about him, he isn't tasked with implementing the crackdown.  It appears to me that maybe whoever he is he's a thorn in the side of Deane and his high ranking officers.  Why else would you try to redirect the attacks at someone not even inside the dept.

Back on topic...in the world I work in when your boss or supervisor tell you to implement a policy that's what you do.  It's call performace.  Deane needs to do what the BOS implemented.  If he can't perform according to his requirements he should face what the rest of us would face, dismissal.

Stick with the topic, stop trying to discredit someone who appears to have real facts.  If you have something FACTUAL to share with us about Deane or the PWCPD please share, otherwise just keep to your self.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SaveAmerica<br />
Not sure why you include me with your response to Good TIme Charlie.  I don&#8217;t know who Moyers is.  I do know officers currently on your dept. and I know fact from fiction.  He appears to be factual.  What&#8217;s your beef?<br />
You seem to be getting off topic.  If he isn&#8217;t with PWCPD why blog about him, he isn&#8217;t tasked with implementing the crackdown.  It appears to me that maybe whoever he is he&#8217;s a thorn in the side of Deane and his high ranking officers.  Why else would you try to redirect the attacks at someone not even inside the dept.</p>
<p>Back on topic&#8230;in the world I work in when your boss or supervisor tell you to implement a policy that&#8217;s what you do.  It&#8217;s call performace.  Deane needs to do what the BOS implemented.  If he can&#8217;t perform according to his requirements he should face what the rest of us would face, dismissal.</p>
<p>Stick with the topic, stop trying to discredit someone who appears to have real facts.  If you have something FACTUAL to share with us about Deane or the PWCPD please share, otherwise just keep to your self.</p>
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		<title>By: Good Time Charlie</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56560</link>
		<dc:creator>Good Time Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 21:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56560</guid>
		<description>Saveamerica.........Let me see if I have this right. He was not fired? But according to you he was forced to leave against his wishes?  I do know several officers found other jobs, and left the dept. to work with other law enforcement agencies after the manner he was treated over a private matter. My knowledge over the incident lead me to believe the COP targeted him over something that was none of his business. He worked with another agency after leaving PWCPD, before entering a private sector. My next thought would be you are confusing "loose cannon" with that of an officer with an aggressive style of police work who produced results.

Thank you...........you just described the problem with our current COP I have been describing on this blog. Charlie Deane confusing good street cops with recklessness, and forcing them out of the dept. These stories are funneling down to new hires and assisting them in making decisions to leave for other LEO jobs.

The problem once again with the PWCPD is at the top. My second guess is you are one of Charlie Deane's bobble heads inside the puzzle palace. So while you're throwing names around, once again, why don't you reveal your identity. If you refuse, maybe it is you that should leave the blog since it appears you are a current public servant. Your current comments in this blog are a direct violation of your own general orders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saveamerica&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;Let me see if I have this right. He was not fired? But according to you he was forced to leave against his wishes?  I do know several officers found other jobs, and left the dept. to work with other law enforcement agencies after the manner he was treated over a private matter. My knowledge over the incident lead me to believe the COP targeted him over something that was none of his business. He worked with another agency after leaving PWCPD, before entering a private sector. My next thought would be you are confusing &#8220;loose cannon&#8221; with that of an officer with an aggressive style of police work who produced results.</p>
<p>Thank you&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..you just described the problem with our current COP I have been describing on this blog. Charlie Deane confusing good street cops with recklessness, and forcing them out of the dept. These stories are funneling down to new hires and assisting them in making decisions to leave for other LEO jobs.</p>
<p>The problem once again with the PWCPD is at the top. My second guess is you are one of Charlie Deane&#8217;s bobble heads inside the puzzle palace. So while you&#8217;re throwing names around, once again, why don&#8217;t you reveal your identity. If you refuse, maybe it is you that should leave the blog since it appears you are a current public servant. Your current comments in this blog are a direct violation of your own general orders.</p>
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		<title>By: Good Time Charlie</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56542</link>
		<dc:creator>Good Time Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56542</guid>
		<description>Angry Black............I am not a Stoffregen supporter either. I do like our current sheriff but Deane supplied him with his staff after winning the election. So I would say that Deane's control is possibly spread into the Sheriff's Office as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angry Black&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;I am not a Stoffregen supporter either. I do like our current sheriff but Deane supplied him with his staff after winning the election. So I would say that Deane&#8217;s control is possibly spread into the Sheriff&#8217;s Office as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Good Time Charlie</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56541</link>
		<dc:creator>Good Time Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56541</guid>
		<description>Loose Cannon? Then why did Deane promote him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loose Cannon? Then why did Deane promote him?</p>
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		<title>By: Angry Blackman!</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56512</link>
		<dc:creator>Angry Blackman!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56512</guid>
		<description>Once I read his comments (good time charlie) in attempt to Make Lee Stoffgren look good, I just passed over without reading further. Everyone knows what Stoffgren was about and this is why he was voted out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once I read his comments (good time charlie) in attempt to Make Lee Stoffgren look good, I just passed over without reading further. Everyone knows what Stoffgren was about and this is why he was voted out!</p>
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		<title>By: Saveamerica</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56510</link>
		<dc:creator>Saveamerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56510</guid>
		<description>Hey Enough is Enough and Good Time Charlie, you can get vested in the Virginia Retirement system after five years and you're in with minimal benefits.  So leaving with a stake in the system isn't difficult to do.  I know who "Good Time Charlie" is because I know him..plus his post on Riley's blog is the same and he used his real name...Dwayne Moyers.  Go look.

I just think the full story needs to be shared.  He claims to have inside knowledge, well, can't imagine who would associate with him, he was considered a loose cannon when he worked in PWCPD.  I'll tell ya this, he didn't leave on his own choice, lets put it that way, but I'll leave the details up to him to share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Enough is Enough and Good Time Charlie, you can get vested in the Virginia Retirement system after five years and you&#8217;re in with minimal benefits.  So leaving with a stake in the system isn&#8217;t difficult to do.  I know who &#8220;Good Time Charlie&#8221; is because I know him..plus his post on Riley&#8217;s blog is the same and he used his real name&#8230;Dwayne Moyers.  Go look.</p>
<p>I just think the full story needs to be shared.  He claims to have inside knowledge, well, can&#8217;t imagine who would associate with him, he was considered a loose cannon when he worked in PWCPD.  I&#8217;ll tell ya this, he didn&#8217;t leave on his own choice, lets put it that way, but I&#8217;ll leave the details up to him to share.</p>
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		<title>By: /\/\3&#124;)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award)</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56508</link>
		<dc:creator>/\/\3&#124;)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56508</guid>
		<description>One way to help pay for the resolution:

http://www.cbs46.com/news/15438184/detail.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One way to help pay for the resolution:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cbs46.com/news/15438184/detail.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbs46.com/news/15438184/detail.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: /\/\3&#124;)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award)</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56507</link>
		<dc:creator>/\/\3&#124;)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56507</guid>
		<description>Angry Blackman! said on 4 Mar 2008 at 11:48 am:


I agree 100%  We need someone that is not going to pander to these voters.  Unfortunately it is getting to the point where we will have to vote for the lesser of 3 evils.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angry Blackman! said on 4 Mar 2008 at 11:48 am:</p>
<p>I agree 100%  We need someone that is not going to pander to these voters.  Unfortunately it is getting to the point where we will have to vote for the lesser of 3 evils.</p>
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		<title>By: Angry Blackman!</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56506</link>
		<dc:creator>Angry Blackman!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56506</guid>
		<description>John Mccain is for Amnesty so what makes him any different?

They all are just pandering to the ILLEGAL ALIENS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Mccain is for Amnesty so what makes him any different?</p>
<p>They all are just pandering to the ILLEGAL ALIENS.</p>
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		<title>By: /\/\3&#124;)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award)</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56504</link>
		<dc:creator>/\/\3&#124;)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56504</guid>
		<description>Obviously someone is out of touch with reality:

Barack tells Mexico: Raids, deportations don’t work

By Jeremy Schwartz &#124; Friday, February 29, 2008, 09:58 AM

Barack Obama hit the front page of the Mexican papers again this morning, this time in an exclusive interview (snagged after his speech at the Austin Convention Center) with the Mexico City daily Reforma, in which he made comments sure to please Mexicans. In some of his strongest language so far on the immigration issue, Obama told Reforma that raids and deportations aren’t the answer.

“The raids haven’t worked,” Obama said. “It’s clear the contribution these Mexican workers make for our economy and one of my priorities on this issue is to keep the families of immigrants united and not separate them with deportations.”

Mexico by and large couldn’t be happier with the three remaining presidential candidates, widely perceived here to be the most immigrant-friendly of the original slate of candidates.
_____________________________________________

Go to this website and see just how many states are considering or have passed ILLEGAL alien laws:

http://www.outragedpatriots.com/

It is amazing that this isn't on the MSM.  How much more is being hidden from us?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously someone is out of touch with reality:</p>
<p>Barack tells Mexico: Raids, deportations don’t work</p>
<p>By Jeremy Schwartz | Friday, February 29, 2008, 09:58 AM</p>
<p>Barack Obama hit the front page of the Mexican papers again this morning, this time in an exclusive interview (snagged after his speech at the Austin Convention Center) with the Mexico City daily Reforma, in which he made comments sure to please Mexicans. In some of his strongest language so far on the immigration issue, Obama told Reforma that raids and deportations aren’t the answer.</p>
<p>“The raids haven’t worked,” Obama said. “It’s clear the contribution these Mexican workers make for our economy and one of my priorities on this issue is to keep the families of immigrants united and not separate them with deportations.”</p>
<p>Mexico by and large couldn’t be happier with the three remaining presidential candidates, widely perceived here to be the most immigrant-friendly of the original slate of candidates.<br />
_____________________________________________</p>
<p>Go to this website and see just how many states are considering or have passed ILLEGAL alien laws:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.outragedpatriots.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.outragedpatriots.com/</a></p>
<p>It is amazing that this isn&#8217;t on the MSM.  How much more is being hidden from us?</p>
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		<title>By: /\/\3&#124;)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award)</title>
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		<dc:creator>/\/\3&#124;)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angry Blackman! said on 4 Mar 2008 at 10:31 am:

That is why I suggested The Less Angry Blackman ;)  Progress is being made and it is good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angry Blackman! said on 4 Mar 2008 at 10:31 am:</p>
<p>That is why I suggested The Less Angry Blackman <img src='http://www.bvbl.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Progress is being made and it is good.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheesh</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/02/the-wait-is-over-the-crackdown-begins/#comment-56498</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did Krutis run out of her Prozac?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did Krutis run out of her Prozac?</p>
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