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	<title>Comments on: The Rule Of Law Resolution Works: Another Example</title>
	<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/</link>
	<description>Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics.</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 11:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Greg L</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-60881</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 04:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-60881</guid>
		<description>Readers might find the difference between this article and &lt;a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/06/AR2006080600800_pf.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;one published in 2006&lt;/a&gt; about the soccer leagues remarkable.

Note the references to team owners overcrowding residences so they can warehouse soccer players...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Readers might find the difference between this article and <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/06/AR2006080600800_pf.html" rel="nofollow">one published in 2006</a> about the soccer leagues remarkable.</p>
<p>Note the references to team owners overcrowding residences so they can warehouse soccer players&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Patriot (Got E-Verify?)</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57417</link>
		<dc:creator>The Patriot (Got E-Verify?)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57417</guid>
		<description>Faith...tell Friar Bob to actually READ his Bible (particularly Romans)! Oh...and also tell him that turning a blind eye to illegal aliens (and encouraging them to stay)...is actually causing them to continue in their "sinful" behavior (forging documents, stealing benefits, stealing identities, etc.). So in a sense...he is enabling their sin (which is a sin in and of itself). Christians are not supposed to assist others in sinful behavior. Looks like Friar Bob needs to study his Bible more! The right thing to do is to help the illegal aliens in coming to the realization of their sin and to help them turn away from that activity. This would be the Christian thing to do. Yes, this would mean that the illegal aliens would have to go home and come back (if they wanted) through the legal channels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faith&#8230;tell Friar Bob to actually READ his Bible (particularly Romans)! Oh&#8230;and also tell him that turning a blind eye to illegal aliens (and encouraging them to stay)&#8230;is actually causing them to continue in their &#8220;sinful&#8221; behavior (forging documents, stealing benefits, stealing identities, etc.). So in a sense&#8230;he is enabling their sin (which is a sin in and of itself). Christians are not supposed to assist others in sinful behavior. Looks like Friar Bob needs to study his Bible more! The right thing to do is to help the illegal aliens in coming to the realization of their sin and to help them turn away from that activity. This would be the Christian thing to do. Yes, this would mean that the illegal aliens would have to go home and come back (if they wanted) through the legal channels.</p>
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		<title>By: faithmy</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57406</link>
		<dc:creator>faithmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57406</guid>
		<description>Fr Bob gave my daughters 8th grade class a talk on why the new law was racist and unCatholic.  I about flipped out.  Fortunately, my daughter is far too smart to be bullied into believing that it is un-Christian to enforce the law.  As for the soccer field, I would like to smack the men who ruined it.  If they want to be Americans, great, START ACTING LIKE IT!  Dont get on Mr Conroy, he isnt a yes man.  He does a great job, but he cant sleep on the field to protect it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fr Bob gave my daughters 8th grade class a talk on why the new law was racist and unCatholic.  I about flipped out.  Fortunately, my daughter is far too smart to be bullied into believing that it is un-Christian to enforce the law.  As for the soccer field, I would like to smack the men who ruined it.  If they want to be Americans, great, START ACTING LIKE IT!  Dont get on Mr Conroy, he isnt a yes man.  He does a great job, but he cant sleep on the field to protect it.</p>
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		<title>By: The Patriot (Got E-Verify?)</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57390</link>
		<dc:creator>The Patriot (Got E-Verify?)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57390</guid>
		<description>But yet....they seem to make due just fine....with their luxury SUV's, cell phones, large number of kids, foodstamps/WIC, and having plenty of money (somehow) to send BILLIONS of dollars each year back home!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But yet&#8230;.they seem to make due just fine&#8230;.with their luxury SUV&#8217;s, cell phones, large number of kids, foodstamps/WIC, and having plenty of money (somehow) to send BILLIONS of dollars each year back home!</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Bentley</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57387</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Bentley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57387</guid>
		<description>My GOD!  They're not playing as much SOCCER!  Get McCain, Lindsay Graham, Obama, and Hillary on this right away!  Truly these people are victimized and oppressed.

Also sometimes when they are in the Emergency Room getting free health care from American taxpayers they get DIRTY LOOKS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My GOD!  They&#8217;re not playing as much SOCCER!  Get McCain, Lindsay Graham, Obama, and Hillary on this right away!  Truly these people are victimized and oppressed.</p>
<p>Also sometimes when they are in the Emergency Room getting free health care from American taxpayers they get DIRTY LOOKS.</p>
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		<title>By: Dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57347</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57347</guid>
		<description>I almost never use the word 'racist.'  I think it is over worked, over used, and takes away from the real thing--sort of like on the order of the little boy who cried wolf.  When it really comes along, no one will listen.  

El Lobo, your post @ 5:58 is close to making me get over my self imposed restriction.  You really need to go back and reread what you have written. 

 Furthermore, I live in Sudley and I don't feel like my neighborhood is a slum.  I doubt that the rank and file person driving down the street would feel like they were in a slum.  I am not a newcomer to the county either.  In fact, Ms. Lafayette has me beat by 7 months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I almost never use the word &#8216;racist.&#8217;  I think it is over worked, over used, and takes away from the real thing&#8211;sort of like on the order of the little boy who cried wolf.  When it really comes along, no one will listen.  </p>
<p>El Lobo, your post @ 5:58 is close to making me get over my self imposed restriction.  You really need to go back and reread what you have written. </p>
<p> Furthermore, I live in Sudley and I don&#8217;t feel like my neighborhood is a slum.  I doubt that the rank and file person driving down the street would feel like they were in a slum.  I am not a newcomer to the county either.  In fact, Ms. Lafayette has me beat by 7 months.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave in PWC</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57344</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave in PWC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57344</guid>
		<description>Another Opinion,

Does this make you a grand-grand Anchor baby?  Guessing on the number of ancestors that came before you...

Soccer fans or not,

When the world cup soccer was going on a few years ago our parking lot was jammed with cars and trucks that didn't belong, people came home from work and called the tow trucks and had them towed out of their reserved spots.  Lots of angry men in the parking lot almost tipped over the tow truck before he just hit the gas and dragged a truck along with him down the road.  It's the rule of law stupid...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another Opinion,</p>
<p>Does this make you a grand-grand Anchor baby?  Guessing on the number of ancestors that came before you&#8230;</p>
<p>Soccer fans or not,</p>
<p>When the world cup soccer was going on a few years ago our parking lot was jammed with cars and trucks that didn&#8217;t belong, people came home from work and called the tow trucks and had them towed out of their reserved spots.  Lots of angry men in the parking lot almost tipped over the tow truck before he just hit the gas and dragged a truck along with him down the road.  It&#8217;s the rule of law stupid&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Freedom</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57343</link>
		<dc:creator>Freedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57343</guid>
		<description>Why oh why in the world can't we simply accept existing law,  until it is changed?  We have a country of laws...no, not all are perfect, but we have a country with laws.  The question is, do we preserve that imperfect but best on Earth country or not?

From my perspective, we need to illustrate to those who are in this country illegally how wonderful it would be for them in their home countries...and then, as follow-on, encourage them to return home and help their parents, brothers, sisters, uncles, aunts, cousins, nieces and nephews to become stronger and better.

Some deserve to become American citizens through proper channels; the majority deserve to help their families exist.  Wouldn't it be nice if we could save the entire world?  We can't.  :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why oh why in the world can&#8217;t we simply accept existing law,  until it is changed?  We have a country of laws&#8230;no, not all are perfect, but we have a country with laws.  The question is, do we preserve that imperfect but best on Earth country or not?</p>
<p>From my perspective, we need to illustrate to those who are in this country illegally how wonderful it would be for them in their home countries&#8230;and then, as follow-on, encourage them to return home and help their parents, brothers, sisters, uncles, aunts, cousins, nieces and nephews to become stronger and better.</p>
<p>Some deserve to become American citizens through proper channels; the majority deserve to help their families exist.  Wouldn&#8217;t it be nice if we could save the entire world?  We can&#8217;t.  <img src='http://www.bvbl.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: MP Resident</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57341</link>
		<dc:creator>MP Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57341</guid>
		<description>Although..were German-Americans considered WASPs back then or did that term only apply to those of English descent? (Now the term WASP seems to apply to any white person, whether or not they are Anglo-Saxon or protestant).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although..were German-Americans considered WASPs back then or did that term only apply to those of English descent? (Now the term WASP seems to apply to any white person, whether or not they are Anglo-Saxon or protestant).</p>
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		<title>By: MP Resident</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57340</link>
		<dc:creator>MP Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57340</guid>
		<description>"Many very legal Japanese became displaced persons in their own land and, furthermore had land taken from them, after Pearl Harbor. If they hadn’t looked different than the WASPs and had Japanese names, I wonder whether they would have been treated that way."

A link for you which answers the question:

http://www.foitimes.com/internment/udq.htm

"Years of silence: The untold story of German-American internment"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Many very legal Japanese became displaced persons in their own land and, furthermore had land taken from them, after Pearl Harbor. If they hadn’t looked different than the WASPs and had Japanese names, I wonder whether they would have been treated that way.&#8221;</p>
<p>A link for you which answers the question:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.foitimes.com/internment/udq.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.foitimes.com/internment/udq.htm</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Years of silence: The untold story of German-American internment&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dignidad</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57339</link>
		<dc:creator>Dignidad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57339</guid>
		<description>El Lobo, perhaps I didn't make myself clear, or perhaps it's just a knee-jerk reaction when the word "racism" is used. I was taught that racism is wrong, but those who believe the resolution is racist are dreaming. They want us to be racist so they can justify their behavior. 
Klaatu1's post was very interesting. I have felt so defensive when anti-illegal ideas are attacked as racist that I didn't stop to look at any similarities between the racism of some Hispanic groups and the horrible racism of the Nazis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>El Lobo, perhaps I didn&#8217;t make myself clear, or perhaps it&#8217;s just a knee-jerk reaction when the word &#8220;racism&#8221; is used. I was taught that racism is wrong, but those who believe the resolution is racist are dreaming. They want us to be racist so they can justify their behavior.<br />
Klaatu1&#8217;s post was very interesting. I have felt so defensive when anti-illegal ideas are attacked as racist that I didn&#8217;t stop to look at any similarities between the racism of some Hispanic groups and the horrible racism of the Nazis.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Opinion</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57338</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Opinion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57338</guid>
		<description>El Lobo,
You might want to go back and read all of what Dignidad had to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>El Lobo,<br />
You might want to go back and read all of what Dignidad had to say.</p>
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		<title>By: Krutis</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57337</link>
		<dc:creator>Krutis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57337</guid>
		<description>Not all ships came through the port of New York.  I'll bet a lot of sailors from Europe jumped ship without ANY papers.

Many very legal Japanese became displaced persons in their own land and, furthermore had land taken from them, after Pearl Harbor.  If they hadn't looked different than the WASPs and had Japanese names, I wonder whether they would have been treated that way.  Looks are important as the Latinos are finding out today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not all ships came through the port of New York.  I&#8217;ll bet a lot of sailors from Europe jumped ship without ANY papers.</p>
<p>Many very legal Japanese became displaced persons in their own land and, furthermore had land taken from them, after Pearl Harbor.  If they hadn&#8217;t looked different than the WASPs and had Japanese names, I wonder whether they would have been treated that way.  Looks are important as the Latinos are finding out today.</p>
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		<title>By: CJC</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57336</link>
		<dc:creator>CJC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57336</guid>
		<description>Yet another opinion 10:17
Thanks for your excellent post.  That should give everyone plenty to think about.
I wonder if the soccer teams paid any "field usage fees."  I know years ago when my kids were on local soccer teams the Park Authority was charging us field user fees.  I don't know if they still do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another opinion 10:17<br />
Thanks for your excellent post.  That should give everyone plenty to think about.<br />
I wonder if the soccer teams paid any &#8220;field usage fees.&#8221;  I know years ago when my kids were on local soccer teams the Park Authority was charging us field user fees.  I don&#8217;t know if they still do.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Opinion</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57335</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Opinion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57335</guid>
		<description>Exactly right, Dolph. 

My ancestors are from Greece and Spain. They came here on a boat, and did not go through Ellis Island (to hear Greg L talk all immigrants used to come through Ellis Island). When they arrived, got a job, got a house, had no visa and no paperwork. They made good lives for themselves. Did not speak or read English. Their children were the ones who were bi-lingual. I am the blessed recipient of their travel to the United States.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly right, Dolph. </p>
<p>My ancestors are from Greece and Spain. They came here on a boat, and did not go through Ellis Island (to hear Greg L talk all immigrants used to come through Ellis Island). When they arrived, got a job, got a house, had no visa and no paperwork. They made good lives for themselves. Did not speak or read English. Their children were the ones who were bi-lingual. I am the blessed recipient of their travel to the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: El Lobo</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57334</link>
		<dc:creator>El Lobo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57334</guid>
		<description>Another Opinion and Dignidad: PULEZZEZE get off your high horse, sacrocinct puplpit of ILLEGAL ALIEN "Apologism". You are unable to grasp the simple concept of what constitutes abiding by the RULE of LAW. I have been a PWC resident for 36 years. What used to be a clean, orderly, beautiful place is now, within the 5-7 years ( since the mass invasion of ILLEGAL ALIENS), a trashy, unsightly and unpleasant place to live. The subdivisions of Sudley, West Gate, Point of Woods, Weems, and many others have been turned into slums and overcrowded bordelos for the Hispanics and their ILLEGAL ALIEN amigos. I see NO intent by the Hispanics to ASSIMILATE into American culture. Hopefully the ILLEGALS will continue to flee PWC and NOT seek "refuge" in other American citites, but RETURN to their own countries and fix what needs fixing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another Opinion and Dignidad: PULEZZEZE get off your high horse, sacrocinct puplpit of ILLEGAL ALIEN &#8220;Apologism&#8221;. You are unable to grasp the simple concept of what constitutes abiding by the RULE of LAW. I have been a PWC resident for 36 years. What used to be a clean, orderly, beautiful place is now, within the 5-7 years ( since the mass invasion of ILLEGAL ALIENS), a trashy, unsightly and unpleasant place to live. The subdivisions of Sudley, West Gate, Point of Woods, Weems, and many others have been turned into slums and overcrowded bordelos for the Hispanics and their ILLEGAL ALIEN amigos. I see NO intent by the Hispanics to ASSIMILATE into American culture. Hopefully the ILLEGALS will continue to flee PWC and NOT seek &#8220;refuge&#8221; in other American citites, but RETURN to their own countries and fix what needs fixing.</p>
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		<title>By: Dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57331</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57331</guid>
		<description>Wine Please,

100 years ago people didn't come here with paper work and visas.  They were processed through at a port of entry.  If they didn't pass muster, they got sent back.  Some of the shipping lines were fairly careful about who got on board, mainly so they didn't have to bring them back for free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wine Please,</p>
<p>100 years ago people didn&#8217;t come here with paper work and visas.  They were processed through at a port of entry.  If they didn&#8217;t pass muster, they got sent back.  Some of the shipping lines were fairly careful about who got on board, mainly so they didn&#8217;t have to bring them back for free.</p>
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		<title>By: 999</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57329</link>
		<dc:creator>999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57329</guid>
		<description>Mr. Anon said on 12 Mar 2008 at 1:17 pm: 
999, Fr. Bob does not see this as a problem.

Thanks for the update.  I figured as much. Nothing was ever said re the situation when the church was used for a Mexican Without Borders meeting and one of the large windows was smashed by a Latino drunk.   One of the former principals was of the same mindset and her excuse was "if it happens after 3:00pm it's NOT MY PROBLEM."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Anon said on 12 Mar 2008 at 1:17 pm:<br />
999, Fr. Bob does not see this as a problem.</p>
<p>Thanks for the update.  I figured as much. Nothing was ever said re the situation when the church was used for a Mexican Without Borders meeting and one of the large windows was smashed by a Latino drunk.   One of the former principals was of the same mindset and her excuse was &#8220;if it happens after 3:00pm it&#8217;s NOT MY PROBLEM.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bl</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57326</link>
		<dc:creator>Bl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The  vitriolic labels the pro-illegal immigration cronies like to use, that the term "racist" is one of their favorites to describe anyone who is against illegal immigration, a pathetic attempt to use the race card to try and shield illegal immigrants from accepting responsibility for breaking the law, and shield themselves for supporting such a travesty. 

They try to do this so that anti-illegal immigration forces will back down for fear of public shame, but the logic of their attacks is flawed when one looks at the broader picture, and that the previous waves of mass immigration from European, i.e. the "white" countries in the 19th and early 20th centuries came here LEGALLY, made an effort to learn our language and customs, and way of life, and therefore assimilated into American Society. Maybe they were forced to come here legally because they had to sail over an ocean and could not exploit a poorly secured land border, but that does not change the fact that they obeyed the law, and the current wave of immigrants are breaking the law. 

The pro-illegal immigration forces that want amnesty are completely out of touch with mainstream American society - just look at most of the comments here - the majority of the posters are against illegal immigration, and most people I know who are against illegal immigration have no problem with LEGAL immigration, regardless of country of origin, ethnicity, etc. 

They try to paint us as fear-mongering demagogues because it is the only weapon that they have against the cold, hard facts: that we are a country of dwindling resources being asked (forced, really - they did not ask, they just snuck over the border) to support illegals who are driving down wages for the lower middle class, draining government tax dollars that they do not put back into the system because they do not pay taxes, and creating a division in American society by not assimilating into our culture and refusing to learn our language. To many of them, we are the "gringos", and some of them even believe in "reconqista", the re-capture of the American southwest, which they conveniently forget that we rightfully won in both war and by purchasing much of the land from Mexico. 

It is not our fault that Mexico is one of the most corrupt governments on the face of the planet, which has led to the impoverishment of their people. And it is absurd that they come here and demand rights that they are not legally entitled to when they should be forcing change in their home country. I think that they are actually taking advantage of liberals that make excuses for them - laughing while the liberal, pro-illegal immigration forces do their work for them, because they have no intention of assimilating into American society. The liberals should also look at the fall of other great nations as Amy Chua has, and understand that non-homogenous societies tend to fall apart, from the Roman Empire to the Soviet Union. 

I do agree with many of Amy Chua’s points from her article, such as strict immigration quotas based on country of origin and levels of education. But she misses the point that Mark Krikorian makes, which is that a mass immigration of unskilled peoples is incompatible with an advanced society that places a greater value on education and already spends to much money on a welfare state. 

Plus, what about all the poor and homeless people in the US that were born here and have paid whatever taxes they can their whole lives? It outrages me that our tax dollars are being used to pay for education, hospitalization, and increased law enforcement needed for illegal immigrants when the money should be used to cover the needs of those here rightfully and legally. 

The pro-illegal immigration forces are self-righteous hypocrites that fail to see the broader implications to our society, and are actually complicit in hastening it’s downfall. As Mark points out, the public knows that the media, government (and businesses that exploit the inexpensive illegal labor) have no solidarity with the average mainstream U.S. citizen, and no interest in preserving American sovereignty, even if our society has given them rights and freedoms that very few nations offer. What will they say when society starts unraveling? That it was the Republican’s fault? That they wish they could go back to the good old days? They will blame everyone but themselves, but we will all be to shame for allowing them to get away with it, and for it to happen in the first place by not holding our government accountable for the chaos at the border, and for enforcing our laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The  vitriolic labels the pro-illegal immigration cronies like to use, that the term &#8220;racist&#8221; is one of their favorites to describe anyone who is against illegal immigration, a pathetic attempt to use the race card to try and shield illegal immigrants from accepting responsibility for breaking the law, and shield themselves for supporting such a travesty. </p>
<p>They try to do this so that anti-illegal immigration forces will back down for fear of public shame, but the logic of their attacks is flawed when one looks at the broader picture, and that the previous waves of mass immigration from European, i.e. the &#8220;white&#8221; countries in the 19th and early 20th centuries came here LEGALLY, made an effort to learn our language and customs, and way of life, and therefore assimilated into American Society. Maybe they were forced to come here legally because they had to sail over an ocean and could not exploit a poorly secured land border, but that does not change the fact that they obeyed the law, and the current wave of immigrants are breaking the law. </p>
<p>The pro-illegal immigration forces that want amnesty are completely out of touch with mainstream American society - just look at most of the comments here - the majority of the posters are against illegal immigration, and most people I know who are against illegal immigration have no problem with LEGAL immigration, regardless of country of origin, ethnicity, etc. </p>
<p>They try to paint us as fear-mongering demagogues because it is the only weapon that they have against the cold, hard facts: that we are a country of dwindling resources being asked (forced, really - they did not ask, they just snuck over the border) to support illegals who are driving down wages for the lower middle class, draining government tax dollars that they do not put back into the system because they do not pay taxes, and creating a division in American society by not assimilating into our culture and refusing to learn our language. To many of them, we are the &#8220;gringos&#8221;, and some of them even believe in &#8220;reconqista&#8221;, the re-capture of the American southwest, which they conveniently forget that we rightfully won in both war and by purchasing much of the land from Mexico. </p>
<p>It is not our fault that Mexico is one of the most corrupt governments on the face of the planet, which has led to the impoverishment of their people. And it is absurd that they come here and demand rights that they are not legally entitled to when they should be forcing change in their home country. I think that they are actually taking advantage of liberals that make excuses for them - laughing while the liberal, pro-illegal immigration forces do their work for them, because they have no intention of assimilating into American society. The liberals should also look at the fall of other great nations as Amy Chua has, and understand that non-homogenous societies tend to fall apart, from the Roman Empire to the Soviet Union. </p>
<p>I do agree with many of Amy Chua’s points from her article, such as strict immigration quotas based on country of origin and levels of education. But she misses the point that Mark Krikorian makes, which is that a mass immigration of unskilled peoples is incompatible with an advanced society that places a greater value on education and already spends to much money on a welfare state. </p>
<p>Plus, what about all the poor and homeless people in the US that were born here and have paid whatever taxes they can their whole lives? It outrages me that our tax dollars are being used to pay for education, hospitalization, and increased law enforcement needed for illegal immigrants when the money should be used to cover the needs of those here rightfully and legally. </p>
<p>The pro-illegal immigration forces are self-righteous hypocrites that fail to see the broader implications to our society, and are actually complicit in hastening it’s downfall. As Mark points out, the public knows that the media, government (and businesses that exploit the inexpensive illegal labor) have no solidarity with the average mainstream U.S. citizen, and no interest in preserving American sovereignty, even if our society has given them rights and freedoms that very few nations offer. What will they say when society starts unraveling? That it was the Republican’s fault? That they wish they could go back to the good old days? They will blame everyone but themselves, but we will all be to shame for allowing them to get away with it, and for it to happen in the first place by not holding our government accountable for the chaos at the border, and for enforcing our laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Wine Please</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57323</link>
		<dc:creator>Wine Please</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/12/the-rule-of-law-resolution-works-another-example/#comment-57323</guid>
		<description>Why do people automatically assume that those of us concerned about illegal immigrants are racists?  How can they even know what background any of the commenters are (well, supposing they don't follow links back to your own sites/blogs)?  I don't care where you're from, what color you are, what language you speak...if you are not here legally, then you do not belong here.  And for all those crying that many of our ancestors came here illegally, I'd like them to prove it.  Mine came over from Lituania and the Austrio-Hungarian empire about 100 years ago.  They came with the appropriate paperwork and visas.  They came through major ports of entry, not under the cloud of darkness through a desert or a tunnel under a fence, or wading through a river.  Maybe gaining legal access to the US was easier and quicker 100 years ago...but hundreds of thousands of other people did it just like my family did.  And have since.  Why should these groups be any different?  Just because the reside on the same continent as our country?  So for all you bleeding-heart liberals, maybe you can open your eyes and ears and see that most Americans concerned with illegal immigration are not racists or viscious nationalists.  We just want our communities to be nice places to raise our children, and not have essential services overburdened by people who don't pay into the system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do people automatically assume that those of us concerned about illegal immigrants are racists?  How can they even know what background any of the commenters are (well, supposing they don&#8217;t follow links back to your own sites/blogs)?  I don&#8217;t care where you&#8217;re from, what color you are, what language you speak&#8230;if you are not here legally, then you do not belong here.  And for all those crying that many of our ancestors came here illegally, I&#8217;d like them to prove it.  Mine came over from Lituania and the Austrio-Hungarian empire about 100 years ago.  They came with the appropriate paperwork and visas.  They came through major ports of entry, not under the cloud of darkness through a desert or a tunnel under a fence, or wading through a river.  Maybe gaining legal access to the US was easier and quicker 100 years ago&#8230;but hundreds of thousands of other people did it just like my family did.  And have since.  Why should these groups be any different?  Just because the reside on the same continent as our country?  So for all you bleeding-heart liberals, maybe you can open your eyes and ears and see that most Americans concerned with illegal immigration are not racists or viscious nationalists.  We just want our communities to be nice places to raise our children, and not have essential services overburdened by people who don&#8217;t pay into the system.</p>
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