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	<title>Comments on: Tuition Rates, Citizenship, And Illegal Aliens</title>
	<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/</link>
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		<title>By: The Patriot (Got E-Verify?)</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57881</link>
		<dc:creator>The Patriot (Got E-Verify?)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57881</guid>
		<description>If illegal aliens keep getting benefits....they will continue to flood into our country. Think of it this way....would you keep giving a drunk booze if you wanted him/her to quit being a drunk? Would you keep giving an obese person ding-dongs if you wanted them to lose weight? REMOVE THE INCENTIVES....that is the solution!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If illegal aliens keep getting benefits&#8230;.they will continue to flood into our country. Think of it this way&#8230;.would you keep giving a drunk booze if you wanted him/her to quit being a drunk? Would you keep giving an obese person ding-dongs if you wanted them to lose weight? REMOVE THE INCENTIVES&#8230;.that is the solution!</p>
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		<title>By: The Patriot (Got E-Verify?)</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57879</link>
		<dc:creator>The Patriot (Got E-Verify?)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57879</guid>
		<description>NO BENEFITS OF ANY KIND to illegal immigrants and/or to their children....EVER! ALL incentives must be removed in order to solve our illegal immigration problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NO BENEFITS OF ANY KIND to illegal immigrants and/or to their children&#8230;.EVER! ALL incentives must be removed in order to solve our illegal immigration problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryanna</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57809</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 09:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57809</guid>
		<description>Big Dog, This is a finger in the eye from Walts. Oversized envelopes that require additional postage, heavy paperstock and what about the multi-language insert!  

The entire school board, with the exception of Gill Trenum have been drinking too much Kool-Aid. Trenum is sticking to his campaign commitments . 
It's time to end revenue sharing in this county.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Dog, This is a finger in the eye from Walts. Oversized envelopes that require additional postage, heavy paperstock and what about the multi-language insert!  </p>
<p>The entire school board, with the exception of Gill Trenum have been drinking too much Kool-Aid. Trenum is sticking to his campaign commitments .<br />
It&#8217;s time to end revenue sharing in this county.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg L</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57760</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57760</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;If you worked to elevate the level of discourse you encourage, you might also invite more people like me to return to participate in the dialogue, something that I have foresworn as a useless exercise in your fulminating corner of the blogosphere. -- Claire Gastanaga, 27 minutes prior to this post.&lt;/i&gt;

Let me guess.  Either you don't really believe what you said, or you acknowledge that I have resolved your concerns in less than half an hour without doing a thing.

This is altogether &lt;i&gt;too&lt;/i&gt; easy....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If you worked to elevate the level of discourse you encourage, you might also invite more people like me to return to participate in the dialogue, something that I have foresworn as a useless exercise in your fulminating corner of the blogosphere. &#8212; Claire Gastanaga, 27 minutes prior to this post.</i></p>
<p>Let me guess.  Either you don&#8217;t really believe what you said, or you acknowledge that I have resolved your concerns in less than half an hour without doing a thing.</p>
<p>This is altogether <i>too</i> easy&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Claire Gastanaga</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57758</link>
		<dc:creator>Claire Gastanaga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57758</guid>
		<description>USMC wife ... 
Your situation was complicated by the fact that domicile rules for in-state tuition also presumed that the domicile of the wife is that of the husband, i.e., that you couldn't establish a domicile separate from your husband to qualify you or your children for in-state tuition. The common law and statutory presumption is that you are a family and that the family can only have one domicile.  Otherwise, the law would be saying that you as a wife can have a present intent to remain in VA indefinitely while your husband has a present intent to remain (or return to) his tax home.  Because of the number of active duty military spouses who now work outside the home and who sought in-state status to pursue a college education, some years ago (before the bill two years ago that now allows all active duty personnel and their dependents to qualify for in-state aid regardless of domicile or tax home), the law was changed to permit spouses of active duty military to qualify for in-state aid if they paid taxes for a year.  The law did not, however, sweep the children into this statutory change to common law presumptions about family domicile.

The treatment of the family as an inseparable legal unit in the case of domicile  and in-state tuition decisions is not unlike the Virginia insurance rules that do not allow husbands and wives to buy separate car insurance (e.g., allow them to insure themselves separately where one party has a significantly worse driving record from the other).  

One might ask why these "family unit" rules now seem to engender cries of unfairness whenever they are brought to light.  Is it a function of the increasing individuation of our society, the breakdown of the concept of a family as a cohesive and unitary construct, feminism (we women don't want to be seen as "owned" by our husbands)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>USMC wife &#8230;<br />
Your situation was complicated by the fact that domicile rules for in-state tuition also presumed that the domicile of the wife is that of the husband, i.e., that you couldn&#8217;t establish a domicile separate from your husband to qualify you or your children for in-state tuition. The common law and statutory presumption is that you are a family and that the family can only have one domicile.  Otherwise, the law would be saying that you as a wife can have a present intent to remain in VA indefinitely while your husband has a present intent to remain (or return to) his tax home.  Because of the number of active duty military spouses who now work outside the home and who sought in-state status to pursue a college education, some years ago (before the bill two years ago that now allows all active duty personnel and their dependents to qualify for in-state aid regardless of domicile or tax home), the law was changed to permit spouses of active duty military to qualify for in-state aid if they paid taxes for a year.  The law did not, however, sweep the children into this statutory change to common law presumptions about family domicile.</p>
<p>The treatment of the family as an inseparable legal unit in the case of domicile  and in-state tuition decisions is not unlike the Virginia insurance rules that do not allow husbands and wives to buy separate car insurance (e.g., allow them to insure themselves separately where one party has a significantly worse driving record from the other).  </p>
<p>One might ask why these &#8220;family unit&#8221; rules now seem to engender cries of unfairness whenever they are brought to light.  Is it a function of the increasing individuation of our society, the breakdown of the concept of a family as a cohesive and unitary construct, feminism (we women don&#8217;t want to be seen as &#8220;owned&#8221; by our husbands)?</p>
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		<title>By: ateacher</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57698</link>
		<dc:creator>ateacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57698</guid>
		<description>It's actually an easy fix.  The student in question gets a job (like my husband had to b/c of his parents refusal to pay), and lives on his own for a year and works full time, then applies for a loan.  As an adult he will pay taxes, and then apply for a loan.  Or he could do as my father had to do b/c neither parent could afford tuition...enter the military.  Or he can find a work/study program that my mom used to fund her college education.  My husband did the whole semester on/semester off thing because he was busy working to afford a college education.  My husband and I worked our way thru our college education, ended up with loans for years.  My grandmother hostessed her way thru college in the 1920's.  The student in question is an US citizen, quite worthy I must say, so let him work his way to his degree like the rest of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s actually an easy fix.  The student in question gets a job (like my husband had to b/c of his parents refusal to pay), and lives on his own for a year and works full time, then applies for a loan.  As an adult he will pay taxes, and then apply for a loan.  Or he could do as my father had to do b/c neither parent could afford tuition&#8230;enter the military.  Or he can find a work/study program that my mom used to fund her college education.  My husband did the whole semester on/semester off thing because he was busy working to afford a college education.  My husband and I worked our way thru our college education, ended up with loans for years.  My grandmother hostessed her way thru college in the 1920&#8217;s.  The student in question is an US citizen, quite worthy I must say, so let him work his way to his degree like the rest of us.</p>
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		<title>By: jfk</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57688</link>
		<dc:creator>jfk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57688</guid>
		<description>And when it's time to pay back that student aid, the graduate mom and dad will go back to Mexico or wherever, while we pay the bill.  

They don' t want to be Americans, doesn't anyone get that??? They want to turn America into Mexico.

They are here for the money and the benefits, but that's it.  That's why they invest in things they can take with them, like cars and not houses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And when it&#8217;s time to pay back that student aid, the graduate mom and dad will go back to Mexico or wherever, while we pay the bill.  </p>
<p>They don&#8217; t want to be Americans, doesn&#8217;t anyone get that??? They want to turn America into Mexico.</p>
<p>They are here for the money and the benefits, but that&#8217;s it.  That&#8217;s why they invest in things they can take with them, like cars and not houses.</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57687</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57687</guid>
		<description>"Whether we like it or not, the 14th amendment gives birthright citizenship to those born in the United States. He was."

I have to disagree specifically with your wording here, Dolph: The 14th Amendment did not give birthright citizenship to these people...the Supreme Court INTERPRETED it to give birthright citizenship to these people.  This does not, however, obligate the states to provide in-state tuition to ALL citizens...each state has the right to set their own critieria.  The in-state tuition issue has absolutely nothing to do with the 14th Amendment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Whether we like it or not, the 14th amendment gives birthright citizenship to those born in the United States. He was.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have to disagree specifically with your wording here, Dolph: The 14th Amendment did not give birthright citizenship to these people&#8230;the Supreme Court INTERPRETED it to give birthright citizenship to these people.  This does not, however, obligate the states to provide in-state tuition to ALL citizens&#8230;each state has the right to set their own critieria.  The in-state tuition issue has absolutely nothing to do with the 14th Amendment.</p>
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		<title>By: 999</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57648</link>
		<dc:creator>999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57648</guid>
		<description>Dolph said on 15 Mar 2008 at 5:46 am: 
999,

I missed your point. NOVA is state funded and students without legal status do not get in-state tuition. Please elaborate on your point.

Here's the way they get around it:

http://chronicle.com/news/article/2918/some-immigrants-get-in-state-tuition-in-virginia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dolph said on 15 Mar 2008 at 5:46 am:<br />
999,</p>
<p>I missed your point. NOVA is state funded and students without legal status do not get in-state tuition. Please elaborate on your point.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the way they get around it:</p>
<p><a href="http://chronicle.com/news/article/2918/some-immigrants-get-in-state-tuition-in-virginia" rel="nofollow">http://chronicle.com/news/article/2918/some-immigrants-get-in-state-tuition-in-virginia</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57647</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57647</guid>
		<description>http://www.finaid.org/otheraid/undocumented.phtml

Federal Student Aid 

If the student is a US Citizen but one or more parents are undocumented, the student is eligible for federal student aid. However, if the parents supply a fake or stolen social security number (SSN) on the form, the student's FAFSA will be rejected when the parent's social security number fails to match. The FAFSA may also be rejected when the parents submit a SSN or Taxpayer Identification Number (TIN) that is valid for work purposes only. If the parents do not have a social security number or the social security number fails the match, they should use 000-00-0000 as their social security number on the FAFSA form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.finaid.org/otheraid/undocumented.phtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.finaid.org/otheraid/undocumented.phtml</a></p>
<p>Federal Student Aid </p>
<p>If the student is a US Citizen but one or more parents are undocumented, the student is eligible for federal student aid. However, if the parents supply a fake or stolen social security number (SSN) on the form, the student&#8217;s FAFSA will be rejected when the parent&#8217;s social security number fails to match. The FAFSA may also be rejected when the parents submit a SSN or Taxpayer Identification Number (TIN) that is valid for work purposes only. If the parents do not have a social security number or the social security number fails the match, they should use 000-00-0000 as their social security number on the FAFSA form.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57642</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57642</guid>
		<description>Rick Bentley said on 15 Mar 2008 at 9:00 am: 
The kid can declare independent status. 

Maybe he can lobby Mexico for a free education because of all the money his folks sent back there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick Bentley said on 15 Mar 2008 at 9:00 am:<br />
The kid can declare independent status. </p>
<p>Maybe he can lobby Mexico for a free education because of all the money his folks sent back there.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Bentley</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57637</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Bentley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 13:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57637</guid>
		<description>The kid can declare independent status.  

I think the reason he feels victiomized is because his parents are poor enough (5 people in 2 bedrooms) that he would qualify for Pell Grants or government gioveaways that most of us can't get ... but can't ebcause of the illegal status.  Instead he would have to declare independence, move out of that 2/5 of a bedroom he occupies, get a job, and then borrow most of the money.  Just like many, many American kids.

No sympathy from me.  There are lots of sob stories about college funding.  As usual we only hear about the ones relating to illegal aliens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The kid can declare independent status.  </p>
<p>I think the reason he feels victiomized is because his parents are poor enough (5 people in 2 bedrooms) that he would qualify for Pell Grants or government gioveaways that most of us can&#8217;t get &#8230; but can&#8217;t ebcause of the illegal status.  Instead he would have to declare independence, move out of that 2/5 of a bedroom he occupies, get a job, and then borrow most of the money.  Just like many, many American kids.</p>
<p>No sympathy from me.  There are lots of sob stories about college funding.  As usual we only hear about the ones relating to illegal aliens.</p>
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		<title>By: Dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57636</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57636</guid>
		<description>Pat.Herve,

Mrs. USMC worked and paid state taxes.  Does she not count as a parent?  Furthermore, I am not so sure 'paying taxes' is the only criteria that should be used for in state tuition criteria.  

Young Mr. Lopez is a United States citizen.  He has lived most of his life in Virginia.  That should end the discussion.  Whether we like it or not, the 14th amendment gives birthright citizenship to those born in the United States.  He was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat.Herve,</p>
<p>Mrs. USMC worked and paid state taxes.  Does she not count as a parent?  Furthermore, I am not so sure &#8216;paying taxes&#8217; is the only criteria that should be used for in state tuition criteria.  </p>
<p>Young Mr. Lopez is a United States citizen.  He has lived most of his life in Virginia.  That should end the discussion.  Whether we like it or not, the 14th amendment gives birthright citizenship to those born in the United States.  He was.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat.Herve</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57631</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat.Herve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 11:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57631</guid>
		<description>He is not being denied an education - in fact he did get a state sponsored education in the state of Virginia.

He is not being denied entry into a Virginia State college or university - he does not qualify for in state tuition rates.  What if my nephew wanted to go to UVA, could he move to my house in the last year of high school, graduate from high school, and then qualify for being a VA state resident for in state tuition?  I hope not - that is called working the system.

He can become emacipate himself from his family, and set up his own domicile - he will then be a legal resident of VA.

There is criteria to prove residency, as noted by someone previous - does he qualify - if the answer is no, then the answer is no.

It is funny, because Colgan supported a bill that said that a person had to meet the following criteria for in state tuition - 
Parents had to have filed tax returns for the past three years, the student graduated from a Virginia high school, and the student was in a documented path to us citizenship - and you all cried that he was giving in state tuition to illegal aliens.

As far as the military - my utmost respect for them and their family - but if you do not change your residency to this state, well, then you should not be entitled to this state's benefits.  I know many military people choose florida as their home state - to avoid state taxes - they do not change their state of residency because they do not want to pay state taxes, so why should they get in state tuition?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is not being denied an education - in fact he did get a state sponsored education in the state of Virginia.</p>
<p>He is not being denied entry into a Virginia State college or university - he does not qualify for in state tuition rates.  What if my nephew wanted to go to UVA, could he move to my house in the last year of high school, graduate from high school, and then qualify for being a VA state resident for in state tuition?  I hope not - that is called working the system.</p>
<p>He can become emacipate himself from his family, and set up his own domicile - he will then be a legal resident of VA.</p>
<p>There is criteria to prove residency, as noted by someone previous - does he qualify - if the answer is no, then the answer is no.</p>
<p>It is funny, because Colgan supported a bill that said that a person had to meet the following criteria for in state tuition -<br />
Parents had to have filed tax returns for the past three years, the student graduated from a Virginia high school, and the student was in a documented path to us citizenship - and you all cried that he was giving in state tuition to illegal aliens.</p>
<p>As far as the military - my utmost respect for them and their family - but if you do not change your residency to this state, well, then you should not be entitled to this state&#8217;s benefits.  I know many military people choose florida as their home state - to avoid state taxes - they do not change their state of residency because they do not want to pay state taxes, so why should they get in state tuition?</p>
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		<title>By: Dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57628</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 09:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57628</guid>
		<description>999,

I missed your point.  NOVA is state funded and students without legal status do not get in-state tuition.  Please elaborate on your point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>999,</p>
<p>I missed your point.  NOVA is state funded and students without legal status do not get in-state tuition.  Please elaborate on your point.</p>
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		<title>By: Student for life</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57626</link>
		<dc:creator>Student for life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 05:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57626</guid>
		<description>This issue is just bunk.  If this kid doesn't like it that his parents are preventing him from getting in-state tuition than he can just suck it up.  If they declare him as a dependent then so be it. 

We all have our challenges to get ourselves through school.  When I was in college I needed to pay for it myself, but I was denied financial aid because I was told that family assets prevented it.  The following semester I just declared myself independent (not declared a a dependent on tax returns of course) and applied for things based on my income and assets...problem solved.

Later in life, I returned to school in another state and was denied in-state tuition even though I had lived and worked in that state for over a year.  Those were the rules..I appealed, I lost, and I dealt with it.  Their reasoning was that I did not have "family or enough connection" to the state.  So, I just persisted and made sure I found a way to qualify the following semester.

Those were the rules...I knew them going in....I abided by them.  It never occurred to me to try to have the rules changed after the fact by holding myself out as a member of some sort of "victim class" who needed special benefits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This issue is just bunk.  If this kid doesn&#8217;t like it that his parents are preventing him from getting in-state tuition than he can just suck it up.  If they declare him as a dependent then so be it. </p>
<p>We all have our challenges to get ourselves through school.  When I was in college I needed to pay for it myself, but I was denied financial aid because I was told that family assets prevented it.  The following semester I just declared myself independent (not declared a a dependent on tax returns of course) and applied for things based on my income and assets&#8230;problem solved.</p>
<p>Later in life, I returned to school in another state and was denied in-state tuition even though I had lived and worked in that state for over a year.  Those were the rules..I appealed, I lost, and I dealt with it.  Their reasoning was that I did not have &#8220;family or enough connection&#8221; to the state.  So, I just persisted and made sure I found a way to qualify the following semester.</p>
<p>Those were the rules&#8230;I knew them going in&#8230;.I abided by them.  It never occurred to me to try to have the rules changed after the fact by holding myself out as a member of some sort of &#8220;victim class&#8221; who needed special benefits.</p>
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		<title>By: monticup</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57620</link>
		<dc:creator>monticup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 03:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The boy described in the article sure developed a strong sense of entitlement.  What's wrong with community college?  And working your way through college?  UVa is very competitive--I wonder if affirmative action kicked in for him?  

This anchor baby scam has got to be stopped.  We can't afford it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The boy described in the article sure developed a strong sense of entitlement.  What&#8217;s wrong with community college?  And working your way through college?  UVa is very competitive&#8211;I wonder if affirmative action kicked in for him?  </p>
<p>This anchor baby scam has got to be stopped.  We can&#8217;t afford it.</p>
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		<title>By: 999</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57618</link>
		<dc:creator>999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 03:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dolph said on 14 Mar 2008 at 10:35 pm: 
NOVA is state funded. Same deal. 



http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&#38;node=&#38;contentId=A55650-2002Nov29&#38;notFound=true</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dolph said on 14 Mar 2008 at 10:35 pm:<br />
NOVA is state funded. Same deal. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&amp;node=&amp;contentId=A55650-2002Nov29&amp;notFound=true" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&amp;node=&amp;contentId=A55650-2002Nov29&amp;notFound=true</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave in PWC</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57616</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave in PWC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 02:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patriot,

We should all send emails to that diplomat.  Here is what I sent to the email address on the video.

Sir,

Your recent comments in San Diego about this being your country is clearly wrong.  I doubt that your efforts to invade by sending your mexican citizens one by one over the walls or thru the tunnels will be successful.  You have provoked the American People and we are now awake and insisting our elected officials enforce and close our borders.  San Diego will never be part of Mexico, not in my lifetime for sure.  Most likely not in yours.  You are younger than me based on your picture in the video, but I have faith in our citizens to hold our politicians feet to the fire to secure the borders.

r,

A loyal member of Help Save the Old Dominion
That's Virginia, also not becoming Mexico.  Wait and see how many mexicans we deport in our county, our state and our country over the next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patriot,</p>
<p>We should all send emails to that diplomat.  Here is what I sent to the email address on the video.</p>
<p>Sir,</p>
<p>Your recent comments in San Diego about this being your country is clearly wrong.  I doubt that your efforts to invade by sending your mexican citizens one by one over the walls or thru the tunnels will be successful.  You have provoked the American People and we are now awake and insisting our elected officials enforce and close our borders.  San Diego will never be part of Mexico, not in my lifetime for sure.  Most likely not in yours.  You are younger than me based on your picture in the video, but I have faith in our citizens to hold our politicians feet to the fire to secure the borders.</p>
<p>r,</p>
<p>A loyal member of Help Save the Old Dominion<br />
That&#8217;s Virginia, also not becoming Mexico.  Wait and see how many mexicans we deport in our county, our state and our country over the next year.</p>
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		<title>By: Dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57615</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 02:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/14/tuition-rates-citizenship-and-illegal-aliens/#comment-57615</guid>
		<description>NOVA is state funded.  Same deal.  

USMC wife, you and your kids got screwed.  It was my understanding that military kids can now get the in state tuition.  

I don't think Mr. Lopez should be denied.  I don't think your kids should have been denied.  These are 2 different situtations but both are dead wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOVA is state funded.  Same deal.  </p>
<p>USMC wife, you and your kids got screwed.  It was my understanding that military kids can now get the in state tuition.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Mr. Lopez should be denied.  I don&#8217;t think your kids should have been denied.  These are 2 different situtations but both are dead wrong.</p>
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