Comments on: The Zapatistas, In Their Own Words http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/22/the-zapatistas-in-their-own-words/ Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:09:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: Che' http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/22/the-zapatistas-in-their-own-words/#comment-58535 Che' Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:02:14 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/22/the-zapatistas-in-their-own-words/#comment-58535 Military action and terrorism are two different things. I don't recall seeing a portrait of Washington or John Paul Jones wearing ski masks. Also, to the best of my knowledge, FDR did not own or wield a machete. Bush? That's another story.... Military action and terrorism are two different things.

I don’t recall seeing a portrait of Washington or John Paul Jones wearing ski masks. Also, to the best of my knowledge, FDR did not own or wield a machete.

Bush? That’s another story….

]]> By: Greg L http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/22/the-zapatistas-in-their-own-words/#comment-58503 Greg L Mon, 24 Mar 2008 04:03:57 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/22/the-zapatistas-in-their-own-words/#comment-58503 Inconsequential insect: The clip is still up as far as I can tell. You keep on telling us about how noble and laudible this anarchist-communist group is, and how somehow Western countries are hungry about the prospect of shipping water from Chiapas province in Southern Mexico. Oil, yes. Hydropower, perhaps. Coffee, definitely. But water? You are out of your mind. That's about as economical as mining ice in Antarctica. By all means continue to wax poetic about the Zapatista Army of National Liberation and SubCommandante Marcos. I'm sure the electorate will just eat it up. Inconsequential insect:

The clip is still up as far as I can tell.

You keep on telling us about how noble and laudible this anarchist-communist group is, and how somehow Western countries are hungry about the prospect of shipping water from Chiapas province in Southern Mexico. Oil, yes. Hydropower, perhaps. Coffee, definitely. But water? You are out of your mind. That’s about as economical as mining ice in Antarctica.

By all means continue to wax poetic about the Zapatista Army of National Liberation and SubCommandante Marcos. I’m sure the electorate will just eat it up.

]]> By: mosquito http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/22/the-zapatistas-in-their-own-words/#comment-58498 mosquito Mon, 24 Mar 2008 03:32:33 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/22/the-zapatistas-in-their-own-words/#comment-58498 The Zapatistas are incredible...they have created their own government in their part of the country which gives the people a legitimate, valid voice....everyone participates. However, western countries are very interested in obtaining the water resources on Zapatista lands....so hopefully they will be able to continue their lives with little outside interference but it doesn't look likely. It's ridiculous any thought of the poor Zapatistas wanting to invade the USA....chuckle....However, there are quite a few Americans who are studying their political system and hoping it will be useful in creating better local governments here in the USA....The Zapatistas are extremely democratic. sorry I couldn't see the film clip...it has been taken down. buzz...buzz... The Zapatistas are incredible…they have created their own government in their part of the country which gives the people a legitimate, valid voice….everyone participates.

However, western countries are very interested in obtaining the water resources on Zapatista lands….so hopefully they will be able to continue their lives with little outside interference but it doesn’t look likely.

It’s ridiculous any thought of the poor Zapatistas wanting to invade the USA….chuckle….However, there are quite a few Americans who are studying their political system and hoping it will be useful in creating better local governments here in the USA….The Zapatistas are extremely democratic.

sorry I couldn’t see the film clip…it has been taken down.

buzz…buzz…

]]> By: legal2 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/22/the-zapatistas-in-their-own-words/#comment-58493 legal2 Mon, 24 Mar 2008 02:32:52 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/22/the-zapatistas-in-their-own-words/#comment-58493 They need to put on their masks and take over their own countries. They need to put on their masks and take over their own countries.

]]> By: El Lobo http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/22/the-zapatistas-in-their-own-words/#comment-58490 El Lobo Mon, 24 Mar 2008 02:12:47 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/22/the-zapatistas-in-their-own-words/#comment-58490 El Guapo......too much Tequila? El Guapo……too much Tequila?

]]> By: Bryanna http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/22/the-zapatistas-in-their-own-words/#comment-58474 Bryanna Sun, 23 Mar 2008 23:44:28 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/22/the-zapatistas-in-their-own-words/#comment-58474 EL Guapo "But yes, the success of military action is limited especially when you have to fight against U.S. provided arms as did the Zapatistas, the Sandinistas and many others." I've heard from legal Hispanic immigrants that these groups have been threatening a revolution against the U.S. government and our citizens. Let that be a lesson to you, and for Americans, protect your second amendment rights. EL Guapo “But yes, the success of military action is limited especially when you have to fight against U.S. provided arms as did the Zapatistas, the Sandinistas and many others.”

I’ve heard from legal Hispanic immigrants that these groups have been threatening a revolution against the U.S. government and our citizens.
Let that be a lesson to you, and for Americans, protect your second amendment rights.

]]> By: PWConservative http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/22/the-zapatistas-in-their-own-words/#comment-58453 PWConservative Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:24:57 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/22/the-zapatistas-in-their-own-words/#comment-58453 The Voice in the trailer sounded suspiciously like Annabel Park, Does anyone know if she is involved in this Propamentury? The Voice in the trailer sounded suspiciously like Annabel Park, Does anyone know if she is involved in this Propamentury?

]]> By: Dolph http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/22/the-zapatistas-in-their-own-words/#comment-58449 Dolph Sun, 23 Mar 2008 16:08:35 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/22/the-zapatistas-in-their-own-words/#comment-58449 How is this threatening to me? I have missed the point. How is this threatening to me? I have missed the point.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/22/the-zapatistas-in-their-own-words/#comment-58445 Anonymous Sun, 23 Mar 2008 15:05:36 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/22/the-zapatistas-in-their-own-words/#comment-58445 El Guapo said on 23 Mar 2008 at 6:30 am: and what every foreign leader needs to do truth be told, is kiss the pink behind of the Republican leadership in the USA even if you have to hold your nose and take a bottle of Dramamine. And where does that put Bill (the panderer) Richardson? El Guapo said on 23 Mar 2008 at 6:30 am:
and what every foreign leader needs to do truth be told, is kiss the pink behind of the Republican leadership in the USA even if you have to hold your nose and take a bottle of Dramamine.

And where does that put Bill (the panderer) Richardson?

]]> By: Freedom http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/22/the-zapatistas-in-their-own-words/#comment-58444 Freedom Sun, 23 Mar 2008 14:59:47 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/22/the-zapatistas-in-their-own-words/#comment-58444 El Guapo, not even worth a response. :( El Guapo, not even worth a response. :(

]]> By: Good Time Charlie http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/22/the-zapatistas-in-their-own-words/#comment-58434 Good Time Charlie Sun, 23 Mar 2008 11:47:44 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/22/the-zapatistas-in-their-own-words/#comment-58434 Reply to El Guapo: What? Reply to El Guapo:

What?

]]> By: El Guapo http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/22/the-zapatistas-in-their-own-words/#comment-58433 El Guapo Sun, 23 Mar 2008 10:30:38 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/22/the-zapatistas-in-their-own-words/#comment-58433 Washington, John Paul Jones, FDR, Bush and Bush used military action to accomplish their respective objectives. I've never heard Parker say that maybe we should have talked with Hitler. Maybe we could have talked him out of his quest for world domination. Maybe he would have understood why genocide was wrong. Why the double standard? The original Zapatistas originated in a small town south of Mexico City. For decades they petitioned the government to have some of their land returned to them. After military action, they got their land back. The Tzotzil and Tzeltal also used nonviolent action to obtain property rights among other things. They were ignored. One day of military action in 1994 got the attention of the government. The government invested more in education in the state and pledged to improve the security of property rights. But yes, the success of military action is limited especially when you have to fight against U.S. provided arms as did the Zapatistas, the Sandinistas and many others. What they should have done, and what every foreign leader needs to do truth be told, is kiss the pink behind of the Republican leadership in the USA even if you have to hold your nose and take a bottle of Dramamine. Now genuflecting at the feet of Republican leadership is not going to improve anything unless it's in the best interest of the US to help. But not doing so will guarantee failure. Washington, John Paul Jones, FDR, Bush and Bush used military action to accomplish their respective objectives. I’ve never heard Parker say that maybe we should have talked with Hitler. Maybe we could have talked him out of his quest for world domination. Maybe he would have understood why genocide was wrong. Why the double standard?

The original Zapatistas originated in a small town south of Mexico City. For decades they petitioned the government to have some of their land returned to them. After military action, they got their land back.

The Tzotzil and Tzeltal also used nonviolent action to obtain property rights among other things. They were ignored. One day of military action in 1994 got the attention of the government. The government invested more in education in the state and pledged to improve the security of property rights.

But yes, the success of military action is limited especially when you have to fight against U.S. provided arms as did the Zapatistas, the Sandinistas and many others. What they should have done, and what every foreign leader needs to do truth be told, is kiss the pink behind of the Republican leadership in the USA even if you have to hold your nose and take a bottle of Dramamine. Now genuflecting at the feet of Republican leadership is not going to improve anything unless it’s in the best interest of the US to help. But not doing so will guarantee failure.

]]> By: Parker http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/22/the-zapatistas-in-their-own-words/#comment-58432 Parker Sun, 23 Mar 2008 07:53:17 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/22/the-zapatistas-in-their-own-words/#comment-58432 Apparently they think that military action will solve their problems. That's foolish, violence begets violence. Someone needs to tell them about how nonviolent action has been successful in the past and even thought it's counter intuitive it should be studied and practiced. Apparently they think that military action will solve their problems. That’s foolish, violence begets violence. Someone needs to tell them about how nonviolent action has been successful in the past and even thought it’s counter intuitive it should be studied and practiced.

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