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	<title>Comments on: The Illegals Walk Away</title>
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		<title>By: MP Resident</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58652</link>
		<dc:creator>MP Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58652</guid>
		<description>I bet 9264 Kristy gets foreclosed a second time. It lost $77K in value the first time.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58594</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 02:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58594</guid>
		<description>park'd said on 24 Mar 2008 at 3:37 pm: 
It truly is criminal that they sent me this bill and have the gall to claim that loss in value due to foreclosures is not taken into effect. 


http://www.cityofmanassaspark.us/Public_Documents/ManassasParkVA_Assessor/Residential_Sales_Considered_for_2008_AVs.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>park&#8217;d said on 24 Mar 2008 at 3:37 pm:<br />
It truly is criminal that they sent me this bill and have the gall to claim that loss in value due to foreclosures is not taken into effect. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.cityofmanassaspark.us/Public_Documents/ManassasParkVA_Assessor/Residential_Sales_Considered_for_2008_AVs.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.cityofmanassaspark.us/Public_Documents/ManassasParkVA_Assessor/Residential_Sales_Considered_for_2008_AVs.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Not Zoe Vitter</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58593</link>
		<dc:creator>Not Zoe Vitter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 01:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58593</guid>
		<description>Oh, you must mean Alana Almeda, the same woman behind removestirrup.com, and the same woman who claimed Patty was a racist even though she's married to an immigrant.

What a piece of work she is.  No surprise she's found some reason to attack you.  I think Rush refers to these types as "Donner Party Democrats", although I doubt she's in any danger of starving.  She looks about ready to hibernate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, you must mean Alana Almeda, the same woman behind removestirrup.com, and the same woman who claimed Patty was a racist even though she&#8217;s married to an immigrant.</p>
<p>What a piece of work she is.  No surprise she&#8217;s found some reason to attack you.  I think Rush refers to these types as &#8220;Donner Party Democrats&#8221;, although I doubt she&#8217;s in any danger of starving.  She looks about ready to hibernate.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryanna</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58592</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 01:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58592</guid>
		<description>I'm no historian, but I can tell you that the woman who spoke at Citizen's Time that accused me of being a racist (which I am not), has been identified as the founder of a blog called antibvbl.  End of story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m no historian, but I can tell you that the woman who spoke at Citizen&#8217;s Time that accused me of being a racist (which I am not), has been identified as the founder of a blog called antibvbl.  End of story.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58586</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 01:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58586</guid>
		<description>Ari Stotle, there appears to be quite a bit of confusion still in what you are writing. Do you really mean to suggest Hitler (born 1889) had an army in the early 1900s? You repeat early 1900s twice so it seems you might. Hitler served *in* the army in World War I, but as LBM mentioned didn't take power until 1933. Auschwitz, which you brought up, wasn't in operation until the 1940s.

On immigration, actually immigration in the early 1900s was far less stringent than today. Essentially there was open immigration until the start of the 1920s and the passage of a quota act in 1921 and a more comprehensive immigration act in 1924. TR made the speeches you quote at a time of open immigration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ari Stotle, there appears to be quite a bit of confusion still in what you are writing. Do you really mean to suggest Hitler (born 1889) had an army in the early 1900s? You repeat early 1900s twice so it seems you might. Hitler served *in* the army in World War I, but as LBM mentioned didn&#8217;t take power until 1933. Auschwitz, which you brought up, wasn&#8217;t in operation until the 1940s.</p>
<p>On immigration, actually immigration in the early 1900s was far less stringent than today. Essentially there was open immigration until the start of the 1920s and the passage of a quota act in 1921 and a more comprehensive immigration act in 1924. TR made the speeches you quote at a time of open immigration.</p>
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		<title>By: Dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58579</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58579</guid>
		<description>jfk,

I urge you to contact Senator Colgan's office and talk to him about what you want done.  From what I understand, he is very approachable.  I think you might feel better after you talk to him about what happened with that other bill.

~~splash~~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jfk,</p>
<p>I urge you to contact Senator Colgan&#8217;s office and talk to him about what you want done.  From what I understand, he is very approachable.  I think you might feel better after you talk to him about what happened with that other bill.</p>
<p>~~splash~~</p>
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		<title>By: Advocator</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58573</link>
		<dc:creator>Advocator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58573</guid>
		<description>To LBM:

Why not come to the Help Save Manassas meeting Wednesday night and put your questions to Congressman Frank Wolf's staffer.  

I guess Frank is tied up in Darfur or Sierra Leone or some place that's more important than his district, and can't make it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To LBM:</p>
<p>Why not come to the Help Save Manassas meeting Wednesday night and put your questions to Congressman Frank Wolf&#8217;s staffer.  </p>
<p>I guess Frank is tied up in Darfur or Sierra Leone or some place that&#8217;s more important than his district, and can&#8217;t make it.</p>
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		<title>By: LBM</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58572</link>
		<dc:creator>LBM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58572</guid>
		<description>Completely OT....Not to be picky but...

"Eastern Europeans heard rumors of horror about Hitler’s Army in the early 1900’s but the Holocaust didn’t actually occur until 1933 to 1945."

Hitler didn't have an army until he took control of the German government in 1933, and even then it was the Wehrmacht, not the SS.  The German troops in WWI were not Nazis.  First there was the SA, Sturmabteilung the "brown shirts" who propulgated Kristalnacht and were all-in-all neighborhood/local thugs who harassed communists, Jews, gypsies and other so-called "undesirables."  Hitler did away with them in the late 1930s (Night of the Long Knives) because he was prepping for war and wanted his own personal security unit/elite military corps - the SS.

The Holocaust did not begin in 1933.  The Holocaust began with WWII.  Now while the Nazis were practicing with eugenics (forced sterilizations, termination of the mentally ill, etc), they didn't begin killing wholesale - as in the holocaust with box cars of families sent to death - until 1941 after Der Wansee Conferenz (The Wansee Conference) where the "final solution" was put into place.

Your chronology is still off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely OT&#8230;.Not to be picky but&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Eastern Europeans heard rumors of horror about Hitler’s Army in the early 1900’s but the Holocaust didn’t actually occur until 1933 to 1945.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hitler didn&#8217;t have an army until he took control of the German government in 1933, and even then it was the Wehrmacht, not the SS.  The German troops in WWI were not Nazis.  First there was the SA, Sturmabteilung the &#8220;brown shirts&#8221; who propulgated Kristalnacht and were all-in-all neighborhood/local thugs who harassed communists, Jews, gypsies and other so-called &#8220;undesirables.&#8221;  Hitler did away with them in the late 1930s (Night of the Long Knives) because he was prepping for war and wanted his own personal security unit/elite military corps - the SS.</p>
<p>The Holocaust did not begin in 1933.  The Holocaust began with WWII.  Now while the Nazis were practicing with eugenics (forced sterilizations, termination of the mentally ill, etc), they didn&#8217;t begin killing wholesale - as in the holocaust with box cars of families sent to death - until 1941 after Der Wansee Conferenz (The Wansee Conference) where the &#8220;final solution&#8221; was put into place.</p>
<p>Your chronology is still off.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryanna</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58570</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58570</guid>
		<description>Harry said on 24 Mar 2008 at 1:05 pm: 
Paul Nichols had a bill that required proof of legal presence before a mortgage could be granted, the House leadership (Bill Howell) would not release the bill from the rules Committee for a vote...

I expected this bill to make it. Utterly ridiculous that it failed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry said on 24 Mar 2008 at 1:05 pm:<br />
Paul Nichols had a bill that required proof of legal presence before a mortgage could be granted, the House leadership (Bill Howell) would not release the bill from the rules Committee for a vote&#8230;</p>
<p>I expected this bill to make it. Utterly ridiculous that it failed.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryanna</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58568</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58568</guid>
		<description>Anonymous said on 23 Mar 2008 at 9:13 pm: 
A very tragic story Ari Stotle. I just have a question. I am confused by the chronology.

Eastern Europeans heard rumors of horror about Hitler’s Army in the early 1900’s but the Holocaust didn't actually occur until 1933 to 1945.  In the early 1900's immigration in to the U.S. was much more stringent compared to today.   American's wanted assurance that their own needs would be met before considering the needs of immigrants and American leaders made it a priority to take care of their own first. 

As Freedom has pointed out, we have become so absorbed with political correctness in our Nation, that instead we turned a blind eye until the over crowding of schools and hospital emergency rooms could no longer be ignored. 

If Theodore Roosevelt gave this specific speech today, our society would want to flog him publicly calling him a racist and a bigot.  

There can be no divided allegiance here. . . 
We have room for but one language here, 
and that is the English language, 
for we intend to see that the crucible turns our people out as Americans,
of American nationality, and not as dwellers in a polyglot boarding-house; and we have room for but one soul loyalty, 
and that is loyalty to the American people.
January 13th, 1919

If an immigrant is not fit to become a citizen, he should not be allowed to come here. if he is fit, he should be given all the rights to earn his own livelihood, and to better himself, that any man can have. 
(Before Knights of Columbus, New York City, October 12, 1915.)


http://www.theodoreroosevelt.org/tr%20web%20book/TR_CD_to_HTML280.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous said on 23 Mar 2008 at 9:13 pm:<br />
A very tragic story Ari Stotle. I just have a question. I am confused by the chronology.</p>
<p>Eastern Europeans heard rumors of horror about Hitler’s Army in the early 1900’s but the Holocaust didn&#8217;t actually occur until 1933 to 1945.  In the early 1900&#8217;s immigration in to the U.S. was much more stringent compared to today.   American&#8217;s wanted assurance that their own needs would be met before considering the needs of immigrants and American leaders made it a priority to take care of their own first. </p>
<p>As Freedom has pointed out, we have become so absorbed with political correctness in our Nation, that instead we turned a blind eye until the over crowding of schools and hospital emergency rooms could no longer be ignored. </p>
<p>If Theodore Roosevelt gave this specific speech today, our society would want to flog him publicly calling him a racist and a bigot.  </p>
<p>There can be no divided allegiance here. . .<br />
We have room for but one language here,<br />
and that is the English language,<br />
for we intend to see that the crucible turns our people out as Americans,<br />
of American nationality, and not as dwellers in a polyglot boarding-house; and we have room for but one soul loyalty,<br />
and that is loyalty to the American people.<br />
January 13th, 1919</p>
<p>If an immigrant is not fit to become a citizen, he should not be allowed to come here. if he is fit, he should be given all the rights to earn his own livelihood, and to better himself, that any man can have.<br />
(Before Knights of Columbus, New York City, October 12, 1915.)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theodoreroosevelt.org/tr%20web%20book/TR_CD_to_HTML280.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.theodoreroosevelt.org/tr%20web%20book/TR_CD_to_HTML280.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Red Woman</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58567</link>
		<dc:creator>Red Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58567</guid>
		<description>Opposing illegal immigration does not make a person racist.  It just means the person favors upholding the rule of law, as it is.  Since the law should apply equally to a Lithuanian as to a Mexican, the law is not racist, nor does it discriminate because of national origin.  Some of the proposals to fix illegal immigration are discriminatory, however - usually against the Lithuanian!

There are many, upstanding, good people who come here from other countries (including many people from Spanish speaking lands) who wait their turn in line to receive green cards and become Americans.  I hate to hear anyone disparage Hispanics, but I don't think a lot of people on this board or other boards really do that.  They seem focused on people who have presumably broken at least one law by entering the country by stealth.  

There is no doubt that overflowing housing have become an issue in many areas.  Drive the zoning enforcement people nuts until they crack down on the landlord.  Pester your Supervisor.   If you see cleanliness type violations, make a health department complaint.  Make several.  I hate being the pain in the butt neighbor, but I'm willing to do it, as are many people in my neighborhood.  In many places, you may have no more than four or some similar number of unrelated people in a house.  Trash cannot pile up.  Cars cannot be parked on the grass.  If you see violations or what looks like violations, drive the County inspectors nuts until they look into the situation and resolve it.  We had a nuisance house in our neighborhood, but it is a nuisance no more.  The landlord was actually as innocent as he can be (I think you are never resolved of responsibility for property you own) - he had rented to two people.  Six people moved in.  (They were not Hispanics, either.  They were white.)  They parked cars on the lawn, they didn't mow the lawn, and they didn't take out the trash.  No matter who it is, those in neighborhoods that end up with "that house" can pester officials until they get off their butts and do something.  They will do their jobs eventually.  They get sick of the calls.  The house now has new, responsible occupants.  The old ones were tossed out on the street as soon as the complaint was made known to the landlord.    

As far as foreclosures, where I live most of them have been against foreign homeowners from Asia.   A lot of them barely speak English.  I don't know what they do for a living with limited English.  A few of them seem dressed for restaurant work, which doesn't fit with owning a house that sold for over a million dollars.  They probably got taken advantage of by shady mortgage lenders catering to their  immigrant community.  These people moved a bunch of relatives and distant relatives in - at least they tend to walk and have bicycles instead of piling up cars - but they still couldn't make the payments and we started seeing pathetic "must sell this house" flyers, sometimes written in rather halting English.  What puzzles me is why they just didn't buy what they could afford in the first place, like most of us would?  There were many cheaper houses around of similar size.  Again, though, there is a sucker born every minute.  The trick is not to be one, no matter who you are or where you come from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opposing illegal immigration does not make a person racist.  It just means the person favors upholding the rule of law, as it is.  Since the law should apply equally to a Lithuanian as to a Mexican, the law is not racist, nor does it discriminate because of national origin.  Some of the proposals to fix illegal immigration are discriminatory, however - usually against the Lithuanian!</p>
<p>There are many, upstanding, good people who come here from other countries (including many people from Spanish speaking lands) who wait their turn in line to receive green cards and become Americans.  I hate to hear anyone disparage Hispanics, but I don&#8217;t think a lot of people on this board or other boards really do that.  They seem focused on people who have presumably broken at least one law by entering the country by stealth.  </p>
<p>There is no doubt that overflowing housing have become an issue in many areas.  Drive the zoning enforcement people nuts until they crack down on the landlord.  Pester your Supervisor.   If you see cleanliness type violations, make a health department complaint.  Make several.  I hate being the pain in the butt neighbor, but I&#8217;m willing to do it, as are many people in my neighborhood.  In many places, you may have no more than four or some similar number of unrelated people in a house.  Trash cannot pile up.  Cars cannot be parked on the grass.  If you see violations or what looks like violations, drive the County inspectors nuts until they look into the situation and resolve it.  We had a nuisance house in our neighborhood, but it is a nuisance no more.  The landlord was actually as innocent as he can be (I think you are never resolved of responsibility for property you own) - he had rented to two people.  Six people moved in.  (They were not Hispanics, either.  They were white.)  They parked cars on the lawn, they didn&#8217;t mow the lawn, and they didn&#8217;t take out the trash.  No matter who it is, those in neighborhoods that end up with &#8220;that house&#8221; can pester officials until they get off their butts and do something.  They will do their jobs eventually.  They get sick of the calls.  The house now has new, responsible occupants.  The old ones were tossed out on the street as soon as the complaint was made known to the landlord.    </p>
<p>As far as foreclosures, where I live most of them have been against foreign homeowners from Asia.   A lot of them barely speak English.  I don&#8217;t know what they do for a living with limited English.  A few of them seem dressed for restaurant work, which doesn&#8217;t fit with owning a house that sold for over a million dollars.  They probably got taken advantage of by shady mortgage lenders catering to their  immigrant community.  These people moved a bunch of relatives and distant relatives in - at least they tend to walk and have bicycles instead of piling up cars - but they still couldn&#8217;t make the payments and we started seeing pathetic &#8220;must sell this house&#8221; flyers, sometimes written in rather halting English.  What puzzles me is why they just didn&#8217;t buy what they could afford in the first place, like most of us would?  There were many cheaper houses around of similar size.  Again, though, there is a sucker born every minute.  The trick is not to be one, no matter who you are or where you come from.</p>
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		<title>By: park'd</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58565</link>
		<dc:creator>park'd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58565</guid>
		<description>Never any mention about those of us who are upside down now because of all these vultures packing up and leaving and causing our values to hit the floor. Manassas Park still seems to be under the impression that my house is valued at 2005 values judging by my latest assessment. I will be filling out a form to refute this bill and will not pay it even if it costs me my home. I'll toss them the keys and tell them to enjoy. People need to make a stand against this kind of tyranny. 

It truly is criminal that they sent me this bill and have the gall to claim that loss in value due to foreclosures is not taken into effect. Like hell it's not. This town and its government are an abomination to mankind. It is so sad to see what has happened here and how such a teeny little town could have so many foreclosures. That's probably 20% of the town's entire home numbers in foreclosure. Anyone know where to find how many homes are in the town? It would also be very interesting to go through all of those foreclosed homes and generate some data on who the realtors were, who the mortgage companies were, which banks gave the loans, etc and try to find out the biggest culprits. I would love to do this is I had access to the data. I could then maybe get a class action lawsuit arranged for the rest of us left in the town to sue the company, the owners and the banks for every penny they are worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never any mention about those of us who are upside down now because of all these vultures packing up and leaving and causing our values to hit the floor. Manassas Park still seems to be under the impression that my house is valued at 2005 values judging by my latest assessment. I will be filling out a form to refute this bill and will not pay it even if it costs me my home. I&#8217;ll toss them the keys and tell them to enjoy. People need to make a stand against this kind of tyranny. </p>
<p>It truly is criminal that they sent me this bill and have the gall to claim that loss in value due to foreclosures is not taken into effect. Like hell it&#8217;s not. This town and its government are an abomination to mankind. It is so sad to see what has happened here and how such a teeny little town could have so many foreclosures. That&#8217;s probably 20% of the town&#8217;s entire home numbers in foreclosure. Anyone know where to find how many homes are in the town? It would also be very interesting to go through all of those foreclosed homes and generate some data on who the realtors were, who the mortgage companies were, which banks gave the loans, etc and try to find out the biggest culprits. I would love to do this is I had access to the data. I could then maybe get a class action lawsuit arranged for the rest of us left in the town to sue the company, the owners and the banks for every penny they are worth.</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58564</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58564</guid>
		<description>A bill like that sounds good, but there's a problem...it would also eliminate foreign investment.  That's getting into an area involving international politics and economics, and would most likely violate some Federal law or another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bill like that sounds good, but there&#8217;s a problem&#8230;it would also eliminate foreign investment.  That&#8217;s getting into an area involving international politics and economics, and would most likely violate some Federal law or another.</p>
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		<title>By: jfk</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58558</link>
		<dc:creator>jfk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that a similar bill should be introduced again next session.  Senator Colgan has shown he is a proponent of enforcing the law.  Maybe Dolph or one of his other more strident supporters could contact him and request that he take action here?  I'm sure we can all agree on this issue; people should have to prove some sort of legal status in this country before they can purchase a home or property.

It might be good for him to conduct some legal due dilligence so that this bill doesn't conflict with any federal laws, as the last one did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that a similar bill should be introduced again next session.  Senator Colgan has shown he is a proponent of enforcing the law.  Maybe Dolph or one of his other more strident supporters could contact him and request that he take action here?  I&#8217;m sure we can all agree on this issue; people should have to prove some sort of legal status in this country before they can purchase a home or property.</p>
<p>It might be good for him to conduct some legal due dilligence so that this bill doesn&#8217;t conflict with any federal laws, as the last one did.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58552</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58552</guid>
		<description>Paul Nichols had a bill that required proof of legal presence before a mortgage could be granted, the House leadership (Bill Howell) would not release the bill from the rules Committee for a vote...it would have stopped illegals from getting a mortgage and then walking away after 6 months when they couldn't/wouldn't pay the mortgage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Nichols had a bill that required proof of legal presence before a mortgage could be granted, the House leadership (Bill Howell) would not release the bill from the rules Committee for a vote&#8230;it would have stopped illegals from getting a mortgage and then walking away after 6 months when they couldn&#8217;t/wouldn&#8217;t pay the mortgage.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58551</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58551</guid>
		<description>The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 24 Mar 2008 at 8:59 am: 
Let’s be honest people! While a LEGAL citizen has to go through a monstrous amount of paperwork and thorough “background/credit checks” to get a loan…how many of the hispanics that foreclosed went through this process? Or, were they given a “free pass” by their hispanic realtors? Hmmm….little conflict of interest maybe?

It is past time that someone "in the know" and has the resources to begin checking out those who gave out the no paperwork, no money down, no ID check loans and make them pay for their criminal activity.  It should not be hard to trace back those who completed these transactins and have them answer for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 24 Mar 2008 at 8:59 am:<br />
Let’s be honest people! While a LEGAL citizen has to go through a monstrous amount of paperwork and thorough “background/credit checks” to get a loan…how many of the hispanics that foreclosed went through this process? Or, were they given a “free pass” by their hispanic realtors? Hmmm….little conflict of interest maybe?</p>
<p>It is past time that someone &#8220;in the know&#8221; and has the resources to begin checking out those who gave out the no paperwork, no money down, no ID check loans and make them pay for their criminal activity.  It should not be hard to trace back those who completed these transactins and have them answer for it.</p>
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		<title>By: The Patriot (Got E-Verify?)</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58547</link>
		<dc:creator>The Patriot (Got E-Verify?)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58547</guid>
		<description>Bottom-line:
1. Illegal aliens that got any kind of mortgage and foreclosed....TOO BAD! It was their "choice".
2. Businesses that set up to cater to the illegal alien market that are losing business or have gone out of business....TOO BAD! It was their "choice".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bottom-line:<br />
1. Illegal aliens that got any kind of mortgage and foreclosed&#8230;.TOO BAD! It was their &#8220;choice&#8221;.<br />
2. Businesses that set up to cater to the illegal alien market that are losing business or have gone out of business&#8230;.TOO BAD! It was their &#8220;choice&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: LBM</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58544</link>
		<dc:creator>LBM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58544</guid>
		<description>Greg:

While saying we disagree on nearly every other issue is an understatement, you hit the nail on the head with this one.

As my husband and I read this story last night from the paper, we asked ourselves several questions:

#1 - How come an ILLEGAL immigrant can get a mortgage??  No tax ID, no paperwork, no nothing.....and yet he is handed a 200K mortgage on a landscaper's salary?  We immediately envisioned an overcrowded townhouse open to at least 3 families "renting" from him to make the monthly payment.  

#2 - What about the immigrant community's involvement in marketing these subprime loans and their involvement in circumnavigating the law and good business practices?  Seems as if a lot of them duped their own and made it back to wherever they came from with a nice fat check - in turn sticking it to their own and everyone else.  Why no mention of them?  THAT is a story that needs telling

#3 - Why are we presented with the plight of a man and his family who have no right to be here (in the US)?  What about Joe Schmoe who has seen his/her neighborhood turned into swiss cheese because of all the foreclosures?  Joe's housing value drop like a lead balloon?  Joe's neighborhood now full of empty homes (or soon to be) - homes that are prone to vandalism, squatters and decay?  In my small development we went from an over population of white vans, lawn-care trucks, homes that WERE nice transformed into worn, multi-housing duplexes....to....vacated homes left in shambles and unable to be sold leaving those remaining watch those properties decay as time goes on.  Why no talk of the people who still remain in these neighborhoods?  You know, the people who didn't bite off more than they could chew and still pay their mortgage?

There is a second round of foreclosures yet to come as another round of ARMs re-adjust in May - what is next?  An "In Memorium" column dedicated to the vacating illegal immigrant community of PWC?  The tragic loss of pupuserias detailed ad nausieum?  The "loss" of such landmarks like El Mercado Hispanio and La Herradura off 28??  Boo friggin hoo...

More attention needs to be paid to the people who live here, and have lived here instead of focusing on those who literally got off the boat and are now moving on to greener pastures because, well...they can and don't give a damn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg:</p>
<p>While saying we disagree on nearly every other issue is an understatement, you hit the nail on the head with this one.</p>
<p>As my husband and I read this story last night from the paper, we asked ourselves several questions:</p>
<p>#1 - How come an ILLEGAL immigrant can get a mortgage??  No tax ID, no paperwork, no nothing&#8230;..and yet he is handed a 200K mortgage on a landscaper&#8217;s salary?  We immediately envisioned an overcrowded townhouse open to at least 3 families &#8220;renting&#8221; from him to make the monthly payment.  </p>
<p>#2 - What about the immigrant community&#8217;s involvement in marketing these subprime loans and their involvement in circumnavigating the law and good business practices?  Seems as if a lot of them duped their own and made it back to wherever they came from with a nice fat check - in turn sticking it to their own and everyone else.  Why no mention of them?  THAT is a story that needs telling</p>
<p>#3 - Why are we presented with the plight of a man and his family who have no right to be here (in the US)?  What about Joe Schmoe who has seen his/her neighborhood turned into swiss cheese because of all the foreclosures?  Joe&#8217;s housing value drop like a lead balloon?  Joe&#8217;s neighborhood now full of empty homes (or soon to be) - homes that are prone to vandalism, squatters and decay?  In my small development we went from an over population of white vans, lawn-care trucks, homes that WERE nice transformed into worn, multi-housing duplexes&#8230;.to&#8230;.vacated homes left in shambles and unable to be sold leaving those remaining watch those properties decay as time goes on.  Why no talk of the people who still remain in these neighborhoods?  You know, the people who didn&#8217;t bite off more than they could chew and still pay their mortgage?</p>
<p>There is a second round of foreclosures yet to come as another round of ARMs re-adjust in May - what is next?  An &#8220;In Memorium&#8221; column dedicated to the vacating illegal immigrant community of PWC?  The tragic loss of pupuserias detailed ad nausieum?  The &#8220;loss&#8221; of such landmarks like El Mercado Hispanio and La Herradura off 28??  Boo friggin hoo&#8230;</p>
<p>More attention needs to be paid to the people who live here, and have lived here instead of focusing on those who literally got off the boat and are now moving on to greener pastures because, well&#8230;they can and don&#8217;t give a damn.</p>
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		<title>By: The Patriot (Got E-Verify?)</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58543</link>
		<dc:creator>The Patriot (Got E-Verify?)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58543</guid>
		<description>The House Analogy....
Your house
1. You have only so much food and water in your house.
2. You have only so many bedrooms and other living spaces in your house.

If you allowed people to continously come into your house without leaving here is what would happen:

1. Your food would run out. Your water would run out.
2. Your house would start becoming overcrowded and dirty and suffer massive wear and tear.
3. The people in your house would suffer from unhealthy living conditions due to overpopulation.
4. Your home's infrastructure...furniture, walls, structures, etc. would soon collapse due to the excessive wear and tear.
5. Soon...you would have no house.

This is no different than our country. Our country is our "house" on a larger scale. So please people....we must be good stewards with what we have and we must use our legal process to slow down the influx of people coming into our house. That is why the process takes TIME...because it allows our house to adjust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The House Analogy&#8230;.<br />
Your house<br />
1. You have only so much food and water in your house.<br />
2. You have only so many bedrooms and other living spaces in your house.</p>
<p>If you allowed people to continously come into your house without leaving here is what would happen:</p>
<p>1. Your food would run out. Your water would run out.<br />
2. Your house would start becoming overcrowded and dirty and suffer massive wear and tear.<br />
3. The people in your house would suffer from unhealthy living conditions due to overpopulation.<br />
4. Your home&#8217;s infrastructure&#8230;furniture, walls, structures, etc. would soon collapse due to the excessive wear and tear.<br />
5. Soon&#8230;you would have no house.</p>
<p>This is no different than our country. Our country is our &#8220;house&#8221; on a larger scale. So please people&#8230;.we must be good stewards with what we have and we must use our legal process to slow down the influx of people coming into our house. That is why the process takes TIME&#8230;because it allows our house to adjust.</p>
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		<title>By: Bl</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58540</link>
		<dc:creator>Bl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/23/the-illegals-walk-away/#comment-58540</guid>
		<description>Overpopulation, congestion, urban sprawl, pollution, environmental damage, crime, diminishing resources, Diseases,  lack of affordable housing, depressed wages, underground economic, fraudulent documents, identity thief, tax invasion, soaring crime rate,  increased tax burdens, overcrowded schools, uneducated children, overcrowded prisons,  inadequate health care, the balkanization of our communities and a large and growing population with loyally to other Nations,  the overall decline in our quality of life are the result of unconstrained illegal immigration! America cannot accept the worlds population of other Nations Criminals, Undesirables and Uneducated Peons. Too many people chasing too few resources is not sound economic, social or cultural policy. This is not racism but pragmatism &#38; common sense! Every industrialized nation has taken steps to end illegal immigration and to limit legal immigration to only that which is prudent, demonstrably necessary, and above all other concerns, in the best interest of their native population. Its insane to suggest that America should not do likewise!

 The illegal invasion can only be understood by  the corrupting influence on politicians of money for cheap labor for the Republicans or the Welfare votes for the Democrats that makes them dishonor their Oath of Office, the US Constitution against Invasion, and Enforcement of our Immigration Laws!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Overpopulation, congestion, urban sprawl, pollution, environmental damage, crime, diminishing resources, Diseases,  lack of affordable housing, depressed wages, underground economic, fraudulent documents, identity thief, tax invasion, soaring crime rate,  increased tax burdens, overcrowded schools, uneducated children, overcrowded prisons,  inadequate health care, the balkanization of our communities and a large and growing population with loyally to other Nations,  the overall decline in our quality of life are the result of unconstrained illegal immigration! America cannot accept the worlds population of other Nations Criminals, Undesirables and Uneducated Peons. Too many people chasing too few resources is not sound economic, social or cultural policy. This is not racism but pragmatism &amp; common sense! Every industrialized nation has taken steps to end illegal immigration and to limit legal immigration to only that which is prudent, demonstrably necessary, and above all other concerns, in the best interest of their native population. Its insane to suggest that America should not do likewise!</p>
<p> The illegal invasion can only be understood by  the corrupting influence on politicians of money for cheap labor for the Republicans or the Welfare votes for the Democrats that makes them dishonor their Oath of Office, the US Constitution against Invasion, and Enforcement of our Immigration Laws!</p>
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