I have seen estimates that the LEP students (limited English Proficiency) students cost an extra $3,000 a year.

I believe the cost per student in PWC is around $7,500 (well below the national average) –

So when slightly less than 20% of the students cost as much as 40% more to education — this means that those other 80+% of the students are cheated from the full value of the education dollar.

However, with a one semester drop of 600 to 800 students out of ESOL enrollment this is a savings of at least $4 million and probably more.

So — the non-English speaking community is a much larger burden upon our taxpayers for educating their students.

I will be happy to pay my extra taxes — however every time I come across someone speaking Spanish in public — especially to their children I am going to request that they pay me $1.00.

I estimate that my property tax bill will go up about $400 — so I think a couple weekends in Wal-mart and I will have “re-extorted” the money back from those directly responsible for my increased burden.

Does anyone know how to save “please give me a dollar – this is what you owe me for educating your children” in Spanish.

Do we really need a mounted police unit in PWC? Do we really need a police boat and several fire boats when we have no water in our jurisdiction? Do we really need a palace of a School Admin building and numerous high-priced administrators?

I have no problem with the cost of controlling immigration but I am certain that there are areas that can be cut to pay for it WITHOUT raising the tax rate 27%. It seems to me that the CXO is unwilling to make the department heads find the fat and cut it.
So, if you know where there is fat, let’s hear it and throw a spotlight on it so it can be CUT!

What don’t you understand? The whole point of cracking down on illegals was that they’re supposedly costing us all this money and resources. And now, to kick them out, we need to…..raise taxes?

This crackdown IS about racism. Spin it all you guys want, but at the end of the day it’s clear from comments posted on this site (griping again and again about hearing Spanish spoken, how they don’t “conform,” etc.). Look, I don’t necessarily have a problem with that. I freely admit to racist attitudes myself on occasion. There’s a big segment of America that is ultimately racist. Always has been. (Remember Ronald Reagan giving all those speeches about “welfare queens”? That played well to a specific segment who “got” the code–he meant blacks.) Probably always will be.

But here’s the thing…people will happily cop a racist attitude, until it hits them in the pocketbook. I’d honestly be happy with a lot fewer Mexicans running around here. But make me pay to do it? No way.

As long as they don’t use it to deny admission to public schools, why is this any different than all the other info they keep in file, like race, insurance, social security numbers, etc?

There is nothing that legally prevents any school system from asking for documentation of legal residency. The citizenry should be clamoring for it.

You should stop spreading false information.

Big Dog: I’ve got the entire Plyler decision in front of me and I cannot find anywhere in it a holding that says school systems cannot collect information on the legal residency (or the lack thereof) of their enrollees. It does say you cannot deny them an education on that basis, and I’d agree with that decision on the particular facts of that case. If you could quote me some language out of that case (or any other) that says school systems cannot collect the information, I would really appreciate it. If you want to correspond personally on this subject, you could send an e-mail to DukesPlace@verizon.net.

Thanks.

Perhaps the responsible members of the BOCS understand that many of us living here would like to live in a county has services and a school system that meets state standards.

Many people sat right on this blog and went to BOCS meetings and said they would accept their taxes being raised if the BOCS did something about illegal immigration.

We are in uncharted waters as far as how much money will be saved because of the rule of law. Maybe…maybe not.

It is probably time for everyone to put their money where their mouth is. You asked for it, you got it. I am just glad that a couple hundred dollars isn’t going to throw my budget in to a tailspin.

It galls me that they choose this soultion instead of budget cuts and despite the fact that the resolution is resulting in savings for the county.

Does anyone else have experience with other programs or commissions that can be studied for cost-saving measures? Let your PWC BOCS know!

The county attorney and is backed up by Stewart and the BOCS says the Board of Appeals can take your money some 400.00 to hear a request for a set back variance to build an addition or garage on your property. The problem is that the VA State Supreme Court has ruled there is no exception to the set back laws on the books of any county or city. The county takes your money and then tells you per the court ruling at the hearing that they cannot and will not grant you that variance request. If a business man did they they would be charged with a crime. Of course Stewart and the BOCS feels it is alright to cheat you and do nothing to stop this illegal practice. We could get rid of at least one employee by just telling the truth to the public when they come in to request a variance. Unless a board is required by law I agree that many of them could be eliminated. In the public works department I asked to look at the plans to build a sidewalk infront of my property by the county. It took 4 people to show me the plans but we can thank the British for teaching those people how to increase the government spending.

Legal2 The Board does not care what is spent and Stewart is no more a consertative then the man in the moon. Bond paument require a tax increase if you are going to issue them.

I, for one, would appreciate the BOCS to force severe cuts to these non-essential groups (which is why I believe Stewart, Stirrup & Covington tried to keep the tax rate down - to encourage the county services to get serious about saving taxpayers money). I am tired of PWC (Gerhardt in particular) and Kaine always going after essential services such as police, fire&rescue and DMV when cost cutting is needed. They “punish” the taxpayers in order to “make us see the need” to continue the wasteful spending on special interest or non-essential programs/boards/offices/commissions.

I’d like to see the BOCS replace the County Exec. & Chief Deane with two other individuals who would be paid less (salary commensurate, not time in position) and truly care about the Rule of Law and financial accountability (not spinning the numbers to further their own agendas). The Director of the county’s Human Rights Commission is paid about $100,000 per year. Pare it down to a less-costly part-time position or eliminate it. If there is an actual case of discrimination or crime, take it to the police or a lawyer.

Does anyone else have experience with other programs or commissions that can be studied for cost-saving measures? Let your PWC BOCS know!

“Now that Stewart can not run away from the mess he and others like him have created in PWC he will have to be shown as how incompentent he is as he did last week with no leardship in getting a tax rate set to be advertised. I wonder how long Gerhert will stay and deal with the children we have on the BOCS?”

I don’t know what your talking about Willis…LOL ( you saw that on another thread, I HOPE!)

Anyway,

My ears are still on and eyes watching