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	<title>Comments on: ICE Nabs 34 Illegal Aliens In Manassas</title>
	<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/</link>
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		<title>By: citizenofManassas</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-59281</link>
		<dc:creator>citizenofManassas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 16:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-59281</guid>
		<description>Nota,

Just stop making excuses for the illegals.  Would it be OK for me to rob banks in order to support my family?  Would it be OK for me to rob people on the street to support my family?

Should we allow the drunk driver to avoid jail time in order to support his family?  

These illegals are the reason for their families being in the shape they are in.  They complain about the break up of families on our immigration laws, yet come here knowing they will be deported.  

Exactly what laws do you think illegals need to break before you start to blame them and want them out of the Country?

Do you think the illegal rapist should be able to stay and support his family?  What about the MS-13 gang members who are illegal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nota,</p>
<p>Just stop making excuses for the illegals.  Would it be OK for me to rob banks in order to support my family?  Would it be OK for me to rob people on the street to support my family?</p>
<p>Should we allow the drunk driver to avoid jail time in order to support his family?  </p>
<p>These illegals are the reason for their families being in the shape they are in.  They complain about the break up of families on our immigration laws, yet come here knowing they will be deported.  </p>
<p>Exactly what laws do you think illegals need to break before you start to blame them and want them out of the Country?</p>
<p>Do you think the illegal rapist should be able to stay and support his family?  What about the MS-13 gang members who are illegal?</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-59242</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 05:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-59242</guid>
		<description>"That is all I am doing when I talk about my opinions. If someone risks their lives to come over the border, then there must be a damn good reason for them to do it."

Yeah...greed and a false sense of entitlement!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That is all I am doing when I talk about my opinions. If someone risks their lives to come over the border, then there must be a damn good reason for them to do it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah&#8230;greed and a false sense of entitlement!!</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-59241</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 05:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-59241</guid>
		<description>"Look how many Americans do not want to work, who keep having children just so they can get more money."

So, notalatino, it's OK with you if illegal aliens feed at the public trough, but NOT OK for Americans to do it?  

Nobody has denied that welfare fraud exists, but the BIG difference is that these people "who want to do the jobs Americans won't" are not entitled to be here, adding to the problem!  Frankly, given a choice, I'd much rather see us having to deal with that home-grown problem than an imported one that seems to multiply exponentially!  At least our home-grown problem is entitled to be here and has no place to run when they get caught.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Look how many Americans do not want to work, who keep having children just so they can get more money.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, notalatino, it&#8217;s OK with you if illegal aliens feed at the public trough, but NOT OK for Americans to do it?  </p>
<p>Nobody has denied that welfare fraud exists, but the BIG difference is that these people &#8220;who want to do the jobs Americans won&#8217;t&#8221; are not entitled to be here, adding to the problem!  Frankly, given a choice, I&#8217;d much rather see us having to deal with that home-grown problem than an imported one that seems to multiply exponentially!  At least our home-grown problem is entitled to be here and has no place to run when they get caught.</p>
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		<title>By: notalatino</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-59238</link>
		<dc:creator>notalatino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 05:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-59238</guid>
		<description>LBM - it is these discussions that warrant a pants load, as you put it.  I am tired of bantering back and fourth.  I gave my opinion, and that is just what it is, an opinion.  I see it from both sides, so excuse me if I feel for the Americans and the Immigrants.  Also, why do you feel that I have to be from any group?  To suprise you, I AM NOT.  I am just an American, born and raised here by American parents, who pays taxes and has worked all of my life.  Why do you feel that someone has to be a part of a group or cult to express their opinions?  But if it makes you feel better, then think what you like.  I have my opinions and  I have clearly stated them.  I have more important things to do with my time than bicker like teenagers over something that our government should be controlling.  But if you think, for one minute, that the latinos that they are catching and deporting will not be back here in a few weeks, you are wrong.  They have families here and or they are the only means of support for their families in their country.  So they will be back, to work the same jobs, and make the same monies they were before to either take care of their loved ones here or send the money back to their country.  All I am trying to do is look at this from both viewpoints, but it does not seem any of you will take off your blinders .  Put yourselves in the position of having a family that you have a hard time feeding or taking care of, what would you do?  At least instead of going on some type of welfare, they come here to work.  And before anyone goes into a tirade, I know that there are latinos on welfare, BUT IT IS NOT ONLY LATINOS that are on welfare.    Look how many Americans do not want to work, who keep having children just so they can get more money.  PLEASE people, before bantering and ranting and raving put yourself in the shoes of another person.  That is all I am doing when I talk about my opinions.  If someone risks their lives to come over the border, then there must be a damn good reason for them to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LBM - it is these discussions that warrant a pants load, as you put it.  I am tired of bantering back and fourth.  I gave my opinion, and that is just what it is, an opinion.  I see it from both sides, so excuse me if I feel for the Americans and the Immigrants.  Also, why do you feel that I have to be from any group?  To suprise you, I AM NOT.  I am just an American, born and raised here by American parents, who pays taxes and has worked all of my life.  Why do you feel that someone has to be a part of a group or cult to express their opinions?  But if it makes you feel better, then think what you like.  I have my opinions and  I have clearly stated them.  I have more important things to do with my time than bicker like teenagers over something that our government should be controlling.  But if you think, for one minute, that the latinos that they are catching and deporting will not be back here in a few weeks, you are wrong.  They have families here and or they are the only means of support for their families in their country.  So they will be back, to work the same jobs, and make the same monies they were before to either take care of their loved ones here or send the money back to their country.  All I am trying to do is look at this from both viewpoints, but it does not seem any of you will take off your blinders .  Put yourselves in the position of having a family that you have a hard time feeding or taking care of, what would you do?  At least instead of going on some type of welfare, they come here to work.  And before anyone goes into a tirade, I know that there are latinos on welfare, BUT IT IS NOT ONLY LATINOS that are on welfare.    Look how many Americans do not want to work, who keep having children just so they can get more money.  PLEASE people, before bantering and ranting and raving put yourself in the shoes of another person.  That is all I am doing when I talk about my opinions.  If someone risks their lives to come over the border, then there must be a damn good reason for them to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-59226</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 03:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-59226</guid>
		<description>"And do you honestly think companies will raise their wages for these people if naturalized???"

You're right, LBM, they won't...they'll just import more illegals to "do the jobs that legal residents and citizens won't."  That's what happened with the last amnesty, and it's continually escalating.

"Looking at my emergency cards I have only 7..that is SEVEN parents that are employed. The other 11? I have no clue."

They're either working for cash "under the table" or living on the dole...very likely both, ateacher.  Aren't we a wonderful society of schmucks?!  It's not surprising that the Mexican Government, and very likely many other governments, are openly advertising our stupidity to their dregs to get rid of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And do you honestly think companies will raise their wages for these people if naturalized???&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, LBM, they won&#8217;t&#8230;they&#8217;ll just import more illegals to &#8220;do the jobs that legal residents and citizens won&#8217;t.&#8221;  That&#8217;s what happened with the last amnesty, and it&#8217;s continually escalating.</p>
<p>&#8220;Looking at my emergency cards I have only 7..that is SEVEN parents that are employed. The other 11? I have no clue.&#8221;</p>
<p>They&#8217;re either working for cash &#8220;under the table&#8221; or living on the dole&#8230;very likely both, ateacher.  Aren&#8217;t we a wonderful society of schmucks?!  It&#8217;s not surprising that the Mexican Government, and very likely many other governments, are openly advertising our stupidity to their dregs to get rid of them.</p>
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		<title>By: ateacher</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-59212</link>
		<dc:creator>ateacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 00:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-59212</guid>
		<description>Weird thing is after I read about the arrests I looked at  my students emergency cards and this is what I discovered....Yes parents listed their home address, and emergency contact numbers, but out of 18 students, only SEVEN parents listed employer numbers, employment information, or employer addresses. Looking at my emergency cards I have only 7..that is SEVEN parents that are  employed.  The other 11?  I have no clue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weird thing is after I read about the arrests I looked at  my students emergency cards and this is what I discovered&#8230;.Yes parents listed their home address, and emergency contact numbers, but out of 18 students, only SEVEN parents listed employer numbers, employment information, or employer addresses. Looking at my emergency cards I have only 7..that is SEVEN parents that are  employed.  The other 11?  I have no clue.</p>
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		<title>By: CitizenofManassas</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-59211</link>
		<dc:creator>CitizenofManassas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 23:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-59211</guid>
		<description>Nota,

Nice try attempting to change the topic. 

They make up less then 5% of the work force, exactly why we would not miss them, and why it would not take too long of enforcement of the current laws to see them all leave. 

I suppose if we just made killing not a criminal offense, we would no longer have a murder problem.   

I would venture to say outside of the major metro areas, and I have visited many over the ten years or so(about 8 round  driving trips to Florida and many places all over the Country), it is very much the norm to see American teenagers work in fast food places and for that matter older Americans do the same and in other jobs that supporters of illegals say we do not want to do.   

If you are not part of any groups, why do you use the same language and have the same self loathing attitude many of these same groups have?  

Again, what law breaking are you willing to overlook by the illegals?


I cut my own grass, clean my own home, and if I need to hire outside help I hire  folks I know.   


Why do you blame everyone but the illegals?  A bit self loathing me thinks. Typical liberal BS.

Oh, and yes the Indians were immigrants too.  

The World has not  changed  so much that we need to have illegals come here to do jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nota,</p>
<p>Nice try attempting to change the topic. </p>
<p>They make up less then 5% of the work force, exactly why we would not miss them, and why it would not take too long of enforcement of the current laws to see them all leave. </p>
<p>I suppose if we just made killing not a criminal offense, we would no longer have a murder problem.   </p>
<p>I would venture to say outside of the major metro areas, and I have visited many over the ten years or so(about 8 round  driving trips to Florida and many places all over the Country), it is very much the norm to see American teenagers work in fast food places and for that matter older Americans do the same and in other jobs that supporters of illegals say we do not want to do.   </p>
<p>If you are not part of any groups, why do you use the same language and have the same self loathing attitude many of these same groups have?  </p>
<p>Again, what law breaking are you willing to overlook by the illegals?</p>
<p>I cut my own grass, clean my own home, and if I need to hire outside help I hire  folks I know.   </p>
<p>Why do you blame everyone but the illegals?  A bit self loathing me thinks. Typical liberal BS.</p>
<p>Oh, and yes the Indians were immigrants too.  </p>
<p>The World has not  changed  so much that we need to have illegals come here to do jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: LBM</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-59176</link>
		<dc:creator>LBM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-59176</guid>
		<description>@ nota

"Why do you not blame the Indian or chinese people for taking over the jobs of the Americans of answering the phones for the credit card or computer companies. Almost any call you make now for help with anything goes overseas."

Did anyone exonnerate these people?  I don't recall seeing such.  They, along with their governments and the businesses who move are at fault.

"You can not blame people in Mexico for taking factory jobs that an American company moved over to their country."

Actually yes, I can.  Twas the Mexican government, acting on behalf of the will of its people, who lobbied and made conditions such for those US companies to move there.

"I am not saying that coming into this country without papers is not breaking the law,"

Good, because it is breaking the law.

"I am just saying that there are so many other more important issues that our tax dollars can go for."

Frankly when a population of illegal aliens is sucking up tax revenue allocated for legal and naturalized US citizens, it is a BIG issue.  If you don't pay taxes, like the illegals, however I can see where this would be a non-issue.

"If we allowed them to be legal, then we would not have to worry about wages becoming stagnent. Then they would not be afraid to report those companies who paid them below what they are suppose to be paid."

Why should they get a pass when plenty of other people who are going through the proper channels for naturalization have waited for years going through all the appropriate steps?  And do you honestly think comapnies will raise their wages for these people if naturalized???

"just imagine how much more money the government would have in their pockets because these people would happily pay their taxes and contribute to our society"

Thank you for confirming that they do not pay taxes into a public system that they depend upon.

"It is because of the American families who do not make their children take responsibility and get jobs. We as Americans let our children think it is okay to sit at home and play video games all day and play on the computer."

That may be how it was in your household growing up, and may be how it is now but you have no place to speak for all other Americans.

"As for how we survived without latinos before….well, look at how our world has changed. The housing markets, the fact that women do not stay home anymore (we get cleaning ladies, people to do our lawn, etc.,) we are a busier America where we do not even have time to get a good night sleep. "

A bit of irrelevancy mixed with mysogyny and voila you have a pointless tirade....

Like I stated before - what a pantsload.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ nota</p>
<p>&#8220;Why do you not blame the Indian or chinese people for taking over the jobs of the Americans of answering the phones for the credit card or computer companies. Almost any call you make now for help with anything goes overseas.&#8221;</p>
<p>Did anyone exonnerate these people?  I don&#8217;t recall seeing such.  They, along with their governments and the businesses who move are at fault.</p>
<p>&#8220;You can not blame people in Mexico for taking factory jobs that an American company moved over to their country.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually yes, I can.  Twas the Mexican government, acting on behalf of the will of its people, who lobbied and made conditions such for those US companies to move there.</p>
<p>&#8220;I am not saying that coming into this country without papers is not breaking the law,&#8221;</p>
<p>Good, because it is breaking the law.</p>
<p>&#8220;I am just saying that there are so many other more important issues that our tax dollars can go for.&#8221;</p>
<p>Frankly when a population of illegal aliens is sucking up tax revenue allocated for legal and naturalized US citizens, it is a BIG issue.  If you don&#8217;t pay taxes, like the illegals, however I can see where this would be a non-issue.</p>
<p>&#8220;If we allowed them to be legal, then we would not have to worry about wages becoming stagnent. Then they would not be afraid to report those companies who paid them below what they are suppose to be paid.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why should they get a pass when plenty of other people who are going through the proper channels for naturalization have waited for years going through all the appropriate steps?  And do you honestly think comapnies will raise their wages for these people if naturalized???</p>
<p>&#8220;just imagine how much more money the government would have in their pockets because these people would happily pay their taxes and contribute to our society&#8221;</p>
<p>Thank you for confirming that they do not pay taxes into a public system that they depend upon.</p>
<p>&#8220;It is because of the American families who do not make their children take responsibility and get jobs. We as Americans let our children think it is okay to sit at home and play video games all day and play on the computer.&#8221;</p>
<p>That may be how it was in your household growing up, and may be how it is now but you have no place to speak for all other Americans.</p>
<p>&#8220;As for how we survived without latinos before….well, look at how our world has changed. The housing markets, the fact that women do not stay home anymore (we get cleaning ladies, people to do our lawn, etc.,) we are a busier America where we do not even have time to get a good night sleep. &#8221;</p>
<p>A bit of irrelevancy mixed with mysogyny and voila you have a pointless tirade&#8230;.</p>
<p>Like I stated before - what a pantsload.</p>
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		<title>By: notalatino</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-59163</link>
		<dc:creator>notalatino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-59163</guid>
		<description>First of all, I do not run away from anything.  I just do not have all day like you do to sit on the computer and chat.  My time is valuable and I do not like to waste it. I review this site once a day and can answer any comments that come my way.  So here we go, if you are saying that the latino work force is less than 5% of the US workforce, then what are you crying about?  This would lead people to believe there is no issue.  How could the latinos "take over" all the jobs of the Americans if this is a true statement?  Please think before you write something that will make you look like the back end of  a mule.  As far as the factories going to Mexico, is that the fault of the Mexican community?  Why do you not blame the Indian or chinese people for taking over the jobs of the Americans of answering the phones for the credit card or computer companies.  Almost any call you make now for help with anything goes overseas.  Is that the fault of the latinos too?  You can not blame someone for something they have no control over. You can not blame people in Mexico for taking factory jobs that an American company moved over to their country. American companies should be penalized, not the people.  If this is your mentality, then I would not be suprised if you blame the latinos for the bunyons on your feet or the fact that you are going bald.  I am not saying that coming into this country without papers is not breaking the law, I am just saying that there are so many other more important issues that our tax dollars can go for.  If the money was spent securing the borders, and the non law breaking (exluding them being here with no documentation as this is not serious crime) immigrants were given legal status, just imagine how much more money the government would have in their pockets because these people would happily pay their taxes and contribute to our society.  Like someone said before, for every person you catch and deport, there are two more coming in every day.  It will be a never ending battle until they do something to secure the borders.  Look at it from another perspective.  If we allowed them to be legal, then we would not have to worry about wages becoming stagnent.  Then they would not be afraid to report those companies who paid them below what they are suppose to be paid.

Leila, I will answer you now.  Just because you went to ONE fast food resturant and saw some kids working that were Amercian, that is not the norm.  It is because of the American families who do not make their children take responsibility and get jobs.  We as Americans let our children think it is okay to sit at home and play video games all day and play on the computer.  We do not see children outside playing like we used to, or teenagers with any manners.  You all know this is true.  We are raising a generation of children that I am embarrased to be around sometimes.  They talk back to their parents and disregard other elders.  My point is THIS IS NOT THE NORM. As for how we survived without latinos before....well, look at how our world has changed.  The housing markets, the fact that women do not stay home anymore (we get cleaning ladies, people to do our lawn, etc.,)  we are a busier America where we do not even have time to get a good night sleep.  The world today is not how it was even when we were children.  So yes, maybe before, when nice, polite teenagers worked at McDonals and Americans worked in construction jobs from 9-5 and everthing was like Leave it to Beaver it worked, but in this day and age it does not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, I do not run away from anything.  I just do not have all day like you do to sit on the computer and chat.  My time is valuable and I do not like to waste it. I review this site once a day and can answer any comments that come my way.  So here we go, if you are saying that the latino work force is less than 5% of the US workforce, then what are you crying about?  This would lead people to believe there is no issue.  How could the latinos &#8220;take over&#8221; all the jobs of the Americans if this is a true statement?  Please think before you write something that will make you look like the back end of  a mule.  As far as the factories going to Mexico, is that the fault of the Mexican community?  Why do you not blame the Indian or chinese people for taking over the jobs of the Americans of answering the phones for the credit card or computer companies.  Almost any call you make now for help with anything goes overseas.  Is that the fault of the latinos too?  You can not blame someone for something they have no control over. You can not blame people in Mexico for taking factory jobs that an American company moved over to their country. American companies should be penalized, not the people.  If this is your mentality, then I would not be suprised if you blame the latinos for the bunyons on your feet or the fact that you are going bald.  I am not saying that coming into this country without papers is not breaking the law, I am just saying that there are so many other more important issues that our tax dollars can go for.  If the money was spent securing the borders, and the non law breaking (exluding them being here with no documentation as this is not serious crime) immigrants were given legal status, just imagine how much more money the government would have in their pockets because these people would happily pay their taxes and contribute to our society.  Like someone said before, for every person you catch and deport, there are two more coming in every day.  It will be a never ending battle until they do something to secure the borders.  Look at it from another perspective.  If we allowed them to be legal, then we would not have to worry about wages becoming stagnent.  Then they would not be afraid to report those companies who paid them below what they are suppose to be paid.</p>
<p>Leila, I will answer you now.  Just because you went to ONE fast food resturant and saw some kids working that were Amercian, that is not the norm.  It is because of the American families who do not make their children take responsibility and get jobs.  We as Americans let our children think it is okay to sit at home and play video games all day and play on the computer.  We do not see children outside playing like we used to, or teenagers with any manners.  You all know this is true.  We are raising a generation of children that I am embarrased to be around sometimes.  They talk back to their parents and disregard other elders.  My point is THIS IS NOT THE NORM. As for how we survived without latinos before&#8230;.well, look at how our world has changed.  The housing markets, the fact that women do not stay home anymore (we get cleaning ladies, people to do our lawn, etc.,)  we are a busier America where we do not even have time to get a good night sleep.  The world today is not how it was even when we were children.  So yes, maybe before, when nice, polite teenagers worked at McDonals and Americans worked in construction jobs from 9-5 and everthing was like Leave it to Beaver it worked, but in this day and age it does not.</p>
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		<title>By: CitizenofManassas</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-59090</link>
		<dc:creator>CitizenofManassas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-59090</guid>
		<description>I figured that would get Nota to run away.  Funny how these supporters of illegals run off the mouth until they are forced to answer pointed questions.   Ha ha ha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I figured that would get Nota to run away.  Funny how these supporters of illegals run off the mouth until they are forced to answer pointed questions.   Ha ha ha.</p>
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		<title>By: CitizenofManassas</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-58959</link>
		<dc:creator>CitizenofManassas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-58959</guid>
		<description>Nota,

Illegals make up less then 5% of the work force in this Country.  What does that mean?  It means there are plenty of Americans who do not mind digging ditches and working outside, or cleaning, or any job there is. 

Exactly what crimes other then breaking immigration laws would you deport illegals for breaking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nota,</p>
<p>Illegals make up less then 5% of the work force in this Country.  What does that mean?  It means there are plenty of Americans who do not mind digging ditches and working outside, or cleaning, or any job there is. </p>
<p>Exactly what crimes other then breaking immigration laws would you deport illegals for breaking?</p>
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		<title>By: Angry Blackman!</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-58940</link>
		<dc:creator>Angry Blackman!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-58940</guid>
		<description>Notalatino is crazy and so out in left field.

Before the illegal aliens arrived, over 90% of labor jobs at contruction companies like Hazel, Phoenix development, Rogers were done by Americans who were either black or white. Slowly but surely, the aliens arrived and these workers were for some reason replaced with the illegal aliens. (I wonder why????)


These guys who were once labors worked hard and they didn't quit for welfare. I wonder why all of a sudden the construction crews are now made of Latinos mostly and now Americans? Anyone wanna take a wild guess?

Illegal Aliens have caused the wages to become stagnant, I personally want more to be done about the Illegal Alien problem and hope that ICE remains in our area until the problem is solved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notalatino is crazy and so out in left field.</p>
<p>Before the illegal aliens arrived, over 90% of labor jobs at contruction companies like Hazel, Phoenix development, Rogers were done by Americans who were either black or white. Slowly but surely, the aliens arrived and these workers were for some reason replaced with the illegal aliens. (I wonder why????)</p>
<p>These guys who were once labors worked hard and they didn&#8217;t quit for welfare. I wonder why all of a sudden the construction crews are now made of Latinos mostly and now Americans? Anyone wanna take a wild guess?</p>
<p>Illegal Aliens have caused the wages to become stagnant, I personally want more to be done about the Illegal Alien problem and hope that ICE remains in our area until the problem is solved.</p>
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		<title>By: LBM</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-58931</link>
		<dc:creator>LBM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-58931</guid>
		<description>notalatino - what a pantsload.

I come from up north where plenty of manufacturing jobs were sent south to the likes of Mexico.  Those "lazy" Americans upon whom you spit fought tooth and nail to keep their jobs.  In Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas - the deep south African Americans have for generations raised, slaughtered and processed the poultry we eat....that is until the agra-conglomerates decided it would be cheaper to hire illegals.  So the generations of poultry workers were traded in for cheap labor...as were the steel-workers of the north....the manufacturing labor pool of the north....

Funny, the majority of people I hear from who claim "Americans don't want to do manual labor, "dirty jobs", etc...." are not Americans, but foreigners or immigrants.

Yet I remember the cries and outrage of my fellow countrymen as they watched their jobs disappear - be it to another nation, or to a local illegal labor pool.  It's a line of merde to parrot the tired old copout, "we do the jobs americans don't want to do"  No, you do the jobs Americans have had stolen from them in the name of profit.  You are all just the pawns in a moneymaking scheme.  But I understand it makes you feel better repeating to yourself you do the work no one else does....no one likes to acknowledge they've been had and exploited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>notalatino - what a pantsload.</p>
<p>I come from up north where plenty of manufacturing jobs were sent south to the likes of Mexico.  Those &#8220;lazy&#8221; Americans upon whom you spit fought tooth and nail to keep their jobs.  In Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas - the deep south African Americans have for generations raised, slaughtered and processed the poultry we eat&#8230;.that is until the agra-conglomerates decided it would be cheaper to hire illegals.  So the generations of poultry workers were traded in for cheap labor&#8230;as were the steel-workers of the north&#8230;.the manufacturing labor pool of the north&#8230;.</p>
<p>Funny, the majority of people I hear from who claim &#8220;Americans don&#8217;t want to do manual labor, &#8220;dirty jobs&#8221;, etc&#8230;.&#8221; are not Americans, but foreigners or immigrants.</p>
<p>Yet I remember the cries and outrage of my fellow countrymen as they watched their jobs disappear - be it to another nation, or to a local illegal labor pool.  It&#8217;s a line of merde to parrot the tired old copout, &#8220;we do the jobs americans don&#8217;t want to do&#8221;  No, you do the jobs Americans have had stolen from them in the name of profit.  You are all just the pawns in a moneymaking scheme.  But I understand it makes you feel better repeating to yourself you do the work no one else does&#8230;.no one likes to acknowledge they&#8217;ve been had and exploited.</p>
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		<title>By: notalatino</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-58919</link>
		<dc:creator>notalatino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-58919</guid>
		<description>I am not debating that some companies take advantage of hiring latinos for smaller wages, like the factory workers, however, I am so sure Americans would rather work in a factory than outside in the 100 degree heat in the summer time and the bitter cold in th winter time digging ditches and performing construction work.  I can tell you this.  I have worked for a company that does work outside for 12 years and in all of those years there have been maybe 4 Americans that have applied for jobs at our company.  We even went so far as to post applications at the homeless shelter in manassas, with only response from ONE person.  We need to WAKE UP.  Americans DO NOT want to perform hard labor.  They would rather be on welfare taking advantage of the same system we blame latinos for taking advantage of.  For everyone (you know who you are) that use latinos to clean your houses, tend your gardens, do your home repairs, SHAME ON YOU for joining the bandwagon on this witch hunt.  America need to sit down and think what is best for the country.  Giving the latinos legal status if they have been in this country a certain length of time and have not committed crime is the decent thing to do.  Spend the money on securing the boarders and not allowing more and more people to come across evey day.  This is where we should concentrate our efforts.  And NO, I am not part of any group, I am just a citizen tired of people throwing the race card.  Remember, all of our ancestors, unless we are American Indians, were immigrants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not debating that some companies take advantage of hiring latinos for smaller wages, like the factory workers, however, I am so sure Americans would rather work in a factory than outside in the 100 degree heat in the summer time and the bitter cold in th winter time digging ditches and performing construction work.  I can tell you this.  I have worked for a company that does work outside for 12 years and in all of those years there have been maybe 4 Americans that have applied for jobs at our company.  We even went so far as to post applications at the homeless shelter in manassas, with only response from ONE person.  We need to WAKE UP.  Americans DO NOT want to perform hard labor.  They would rather be on welfare taking advantage of the same system we blame latinos for taking advantage of.  For everyone (you know who you are) that use latinos to clean your houses, tend your gardens, do your home repairs, SHAME ON YOU for joining the bandwagon on this witch hunt.  America need to sit down and think what is best for the country.  Giving the latinos legal status if they have been in this country a certain length of time and have not committed crime is the decent thing to do.  Spend the money on securing the boarders and not allowing more and more people to come across evey day.  This is where we should concentrate our efforts.  And NO, I am not part of any group, I am just a citizen tired of people throwing the race card.  Remember, all of our ancestors, unless we are American Indians, were immigrants.</p>
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		<title>By: CitizenofManassas</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-58907</link>
		<dc:creator>CitizenofManassas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-58907</guid>
		<description>Nota,

How did America survive without illegals?  Exactly how did America become a successful Nation without illegals?   Why exactly if illegals are such hard workers, did they leave their Nations, where obviously that superior work ethic would have made it moot for them to seek jobs in other Nations since they own Nations would have a booming economy due to that superior work ethic.  

 Maybe if you travel outside of your neighborhood, you will see plenty of examples of Americans working these jobs you say only illegals will do.  In fact I posted just a couple of weeks ago about my experience at a fast food restaurant in Fredericks burg.  The work force appeared to be extras from the Leave it to Beaver show.  I hardly doubt those hard working teenagers would accept what you posted. 

Of course illegals are not the only ones who commit crimes.  But, I also do not see American drunks in the streets protesting tougher DUI laws, I also do not see American bank robbers in the streets protesting tougher sentencing laws either.


Leila,

Why don't you comment now?  You are the typical lib, you attempt to change the topic and ignore directed and simple questions asked of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nota,</p>
<p>How did America survive without illegals?  Exactly how did America become a successful Nation without illegals?   Why exactly if illegals are such hard workers, did they leave their Nations, where obviously that superior work ethic would have made it moot for them to seek jobs in other Nations since they own Nations would have a booming economy due to that superior work ethic.  </p>
<p> Maybe if you travel outside of your neighborhood, you will see plenty of examples of Americans working these jobs you say only illegals will do.  In fact I posted just a couple of weeks ago about my experience at a fast food restaurant in Fredericks burg.  The work force appeared to be extras from the Leave it to Beaver show.  I hardly doubt those hard working teenagers would accept what you posted. </p>
<p>Of course illegals are not the only ones who commit crimes.  But, I also do not see American drunks in the streets protesting tougher DUI laws, I also do not see American bank robbers in the streets protesting tougher sentencing laws either.</p>
<p>Leila,</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you comment now?  You are the typical lib, you attempt to change the topic and ignore directed and simple questions asked of you.</p>
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		<title>By: Dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-58888</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-58888</guid>
		<description>Patty,

Thanks.  He certainly is someone I don't want to run into out in the wild.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty,</p>
<p>Thanks.  He certainly is someone I don&#8217;t want to run into out in the wild.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave in PWC</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-58887</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave in PWC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-58887</guid>
		<description>Notalatino,

After the raid in New Bedford, MA of the factory that made Army ammo vests the next day over 700 AMERICANS applied for the jobs that the illegals were doing.  Take your ideas and tell them to MWB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notalatino,</p>
<p>After the raid in New Bedford, MA of the factory that made Army ammo vests the next day over 700 AMERICANS applied for the jobs that the illegals were doing.  Take your ideas and tell them to MWB.</p>
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		<title>By: LeilainthePRA</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-58886</link>
		<dc:creator>LeilainthePRA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-58886</guid>
		<description>Mr. Anon said: 

"The usual pro-illegal suspects are not commenting on this story. Interesting….

Leila, Charlotte, El Guapo, where are you? I hope none of you got arrested yesterday (not)."

Mr. Anon, you are hysterical. You commented at what, 2 pm something? As totally blissful a site as BVBL is, I don't have a chance to look at it all the time. Sorry to disappoint you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Anon said: </p>
<p>&#8220;The usual pro-illegal suspects are not commenting on this story. Interesting….</p>
<p>Leila, Charlotte, El Guapo, where are you? I hope none of you got arrested yesterday (not).&#8221;</p>
<p>Mr. Anon, you are hysterical. You commented at what, 2 pm something? As totally blissful a site as BVBL is, I don&#8217;t have a chance to look at it all the time. Sorry to disappoint you.</p>
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		<title>By: Parker</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-58875</link>
		<dc:creator>Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-58875</guid>
		<description>@Notalatino Americans would do those jobs if the wages weren't undercut by companies profiting of illegals.  If yours so happy about having Latinos drive down wages and working 70hrs a week don't be surprised when the new prefab housing takes ofter and Latinos are under cut by Chinese working 80hrs a week.  Is this really the direction you want to be going?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Notalatino Americans would do those jobs if the wages weren&#8217;t undercut by companies profiting of illegals.  If yours so happy about having Latinos drive down wages and working 70hrs a week don&#8217;t be surprised when the new prefab housing takes ofter and Latinos are under cut by Chinese working 80hrs a week.  Is this really the direction you want to be going?</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-58869</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/ice-nabs-34-illegal-aliens-in-manassas/#comment-58869</guid>
		<description>Notalatino's tirade sounds very familiar.  Most of it (with the exception of the first sentence) sounds like it came directly from our local Mexicans Without Borders (Nancy Lyall, perhaps?).  Of course, that first sentence could well be as a result of the reality that supporting blatant criminals will do little to help their cause, so this could be the new rhetoric we are to expect...mixed with the old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notalatino&#8217;s tirade sounds very familiar.  Most of it (with the exception of the first sentence) sounds like it came directly from our local Mexicans Without Borders (Nancy Lyall, perhaps?).  Of course, that first sentence could well be as a result of the reality that supporting blatant criminals will do little to help their cause, so this could be the new rhetoric we are to expect&#8230;mixed with the old.</p>
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