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Mexican Government Comes To Lecture Us

By Greg L | 26 March 2008 | Illegal Aliens, Prince William County | 107 Comments

The MJM is reporting that The Mexican Government is coming to talk to Prince William County Police Chief Deane about the concerns of the immigrant community. I don’t quite get what the heck Deane is doing here.

The meeting will be tomorrow at 7:00PM in the Hi Mart at 13412 Jefferson Davis Highway.

Maybe we should show this to the Mexican Consul tomorrow night:

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  1. TDB said on 26 Mar 2008 at 3:35 pm:
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    What is Hi Mart?

  2. James Young said on 26 Mar 2008 at 3:38 pm:
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    What, Charlie Deane now has his own foreign policy?

    And what is the Mexican Consul doing by purporting to represent the interests of immigrants? Didn’t many of those people LEAVE his country?

    This is the kind of behavior which lends support to the worst concerns about the indifference — even support — of the Mexican government for the lawbreaking of its citizens.

    What Deane should do is show up with all illegals currently in PWC custody, and require the Consul to get them the Hell out of our country!

  3. CitizenofManassas said on 26 Mar 2008 at 3:41 pm:
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    I love how the MJM used staff reporters to cover this story, but used the AP to report the immigration raid. If there were any doubt as to how the MJM views illegals, it is gone now.

  4. Big Dog said on 26 Mar 2008 at 4:04 pm:
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    Hi Mart is like a 7-11, just not as fancy.

    The good old MJM - no coverage of Monday’s
    Manassas City Council meeting — a few little things
    like the abortion clinic and the Liberty St. sign
    came up — nothing important . (For a change, the
    WaPo did have a reporter there - a story
    may be in tomorrow’s zoned PW section).

  5. legal2 said on 26 Mar 2008 at 4:04 pm:
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    This meeting should be televised on the PWC Cable channel with subtitles translating both English & *Spanish*. The citizens have a right to know exactly what transpires in this meeting.

  6. Rick Bentley said on 26 Mar 2008 at 4:11 pm:
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    What do you think Deane’s doing there? Undercutting the will of the people who pay his salary as usual.

  7. josh said on 26 Mar 2008 at 4:11 pm:
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    They should have the meeting on the corner of route 1 and parkway…the 7-11 would make a good backdrop for the meeting. The mexicans should just go home, I personally dont feel they are welcome here. They have enough problems running their own crappy government to stick their noses in our’s.

  8. Big Dog said on 26 Mar 2008 at 4:27 pm:
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    As John Kennedy said at the Berlin Wall years ago,
    “People vote with their feet”.

    If you think it is bad to live in a country where everyone
    wants in — how about being in a country where
    everyone wants out?

    Mexico is a wealthy country with rich natural resources,
    including oil. Their problem is a flawed government.

    Realize this is a PR deal by Charlie - doubt if it will
    help or hurt much in the long run.

  9. starryflights said on 26 Mar 2008 at 4:45 pm:
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    Where is the BOCS in all this?

  10. starryflights said on 26 Mar 2008 at 4:46 pm:
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    Adding…it looks like the BOCS power may be being usurped.

  11. Johnson said on 26 Mar 2008 at 5:10 pm:
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    I’d like to know how Deane expects to get away with this. Didn’t Nancy Pelosi take a trip to Syria recently? I hope that the Dept. of State sends a representative.!

  12. starryflights said on 26 Mar 2008 at 5:14 pm:
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    I think we should all call for Dean’s resignation.

  13. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 26 Mar 2008 at 5:15 pm:
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    I think Chief Deane should resign! This is an outrage!

  14. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 26 Mar 2008 at 5:16 pm:
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    Does the BOCS know?

  15. The Patriot (Got E-Verify?) said on 26 Mar 2008 at 5:22 pm:
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    Since when does the Mexican government have ANY say in how our country carries on with business? They can go pack sand!

  16. Bob Wills said on 26 Mar 2008 at 5:25 pm:
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    I still think that if the Inter County Education assosiation wore their jackes there it would be a great help to our education expenses. That is the jacket with ICE on the back of it

  17. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 26 Mar 2008 at 5:26 pm:
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    It is time to put away the PC hats and get out the real life helmets!!

  18. park'd said on 26 Mar 2008 at 5:39 pm:
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    Umm OMG. I can’t believe Deane is there pandering to these clowns. I didn’t see him holding any special meetings with the concerned CITIZENS of this county when we were BEGGING him to implement 287G before the resolution. This guy is at odds with the community and his force and if anyone ever needed to get canned, it’s him. This is an outrage. I am furious at this blatant pandering and I’m not even a PWC citizen. OUTRAGEOUS behavior.

  19. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 26 Mar 2008 at 5:42 pm:
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    It is outrageous behavior!! He will spend time with somone that should have NOTHING to say about PWC policy.

  20. Chris Royse said on 26 Mar 2008 at 6:00 pm:
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    Chief Deane is out of line. Have these “GOM Officials” registered with the DOS and been cleared to conduct political activities on their visit per their visa request(s)? If not, he’s going to be there to apprehend them? See you all at the Hi Mart tomorrow night at 7.

  21. AWCheney said on 26 Mar 2008 at 7:18 pm:
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    I wonder if Chief Deane will have the wherewithal to invite ICE to this meeting considering that their raid is figuring prominently in what is allegedly to be discussed there. I wonder if the State Department has also been notified of this meeting, which would most certainly fall under their purview. I wonder if this will be the “straw that broke the camel’s back” for our Board of Supervisors, and resumes will be requested for Chief Deane’s job by Friday morning.

  22. Good Time Charlie said on 26 Mar 2008 at 7:29 pm:
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    This is his attempt to display himself as a man of the people. He is attempting to publically send a message of understanding & compassion. Once he has won the hearts & minds of the media, nothing you can do can force him from his intended hands-off approach to dealing with the rule of law resolution. He’s trying to win over the media to silence voices supporting positions against illegals. This is what he does best. If anything, he knows how to manipulate the local media.

    It’s just too bad he doesn’t treat his own departmental members with the same false compassion he’s trying to display toward “helpless hard working immigrants.” I’ve sent several warnings on this web site (even before the proposal of local measures to deal with illegal immigration) that Charlie Deane leads the direction of the police department in accordance with public opinion. As stated in many other threads………police work through perception.

    If you are sick of being protected by this method of policing I encourage you to contact your district supervisor & inform them you will be voting for the opponent in the next local election if immediate leadership is not displayed by forcing the retirement of Charlie Deane. If the members of the BOCS receive enough phone calls & E-mails forcing them to deal with this renegade or face defeat in the next election………..maybe Deane will be reminded of who actually calls the shots regarding proper enforcement positions.

  23. ateacher said on 26 Mar 2008 at 8:29 pm:
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    I’m sorry. I just don’t get why the USA is sending many dollars(millions) to Mexico due to the current drug wars happening there, basically on our borders. There have been significant gun fights in border towns recently and somebody in Mexico actually cares what is going on in PWC????? Why? To what end? Tijuiana is a war state as of yesterday with rival gangs killing poilce cheifs and judges, and journalists, as well as innocent bystanders, and the police force is in cahoots with the gangs…read the paper and realize this. What should Cheif Deane be expected to learn from them?

  24. Citizen 12 said on 26 Mar 2008 at 11:32 pm:
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    “The informational meeting is intended to dispel fears and rumors about the resolution in the wake of an Immigrations and Customs Enforcement raid on a worksite in the Manassas area on Monday.”

    Yea, like Hi mart always has impromptu meeting time available just in case some foreign consul calls for a quick get together with a branch of our local government. I guess it’s just a coincidence the folks on Prince William St. got their new billboard up just in time for this event. Pressure for this one might be coming from Washington. Feathers were surely ruffled after the end run around the feds with BOCS resolution. This new twist is not helping them move on with their North American Union AKA New World Order.

  25. Dolph said on 26 Mar 2008 at 11:36 pm:
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    Why should Chief Deane not talk to a representative of the Mexican Government? Talking is talking. We aren’t talking about the Camp David Accords here.

    The meeting is billed as informational and ‘is intended to dispel fears and rumors about the resolution in the wake of an Immigrations and Customs Enforcement raid on a worksite in the Manassas area on Monday.’

    Chief Deane was charged with educating the community about what the resolution will and will not do. This meeting seems in line with those objectives.

  26. anon said on 26 Mar 2008 at 11:51 pm:
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    Chief Deane meeting with the community discussing the implementation of the resolution FINE!

    Chief Deane meeting with a Mexican official NOT FINE!
    Mexico has nothing to do with the implementation of the resolution. Good grief, all illegals are not Mexican. Is Chief Deane going to have to meet with officials from every government that may have an illegal person in the community?

    This should be the last straw unless the Board of Supervisors agreed to this meeting.

  27. AWCheney said on 26 Mar 2008 at 11:57 pm:
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    Dolph, it’s a severe violation of protocol and, technically, a violation of the U.S. Constitution on the part of a local government official (talks, whether informational or otherwise, with official representatives of a foreign government are CLEARLY within the realm of powers reserved for the Federal Government). Now, unless the State Department (a represenative of whom should be accompanying the Consul) is complicit in this WITHOUT notifying the local government authority, the Mexican Consul will, and should, be sanctioned. If he is not, then the State Department HAS been notified and failed to subsequently notify the local government authority…then just watch them start to scramble to find a fall guy.

  28. Not a fan of Nohe or Caddigan said on 27 Mar 2008 at 12:05 am:
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    Now will the BOCS fired Chief Deane?? I don’t think a majority of the board have the fortitude to do so. Maybe Nohe and Caddigan can explain this one.

  29. Trent A Barton said on 27 Mar 2008 at 12:06 am:
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    Fire Deane today

    Just my Thoughts-
    Trent A Barton

  30. LeilainthePRA said on 27 Mar 2008 at 12:07 am:
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    AWC, you seem awfully certain about that. I can think of many very innocuous ways local officials might engage with official representatives of a foreign government, including sister city festivities. I can also think of ways local officials engage with foreign officials in legal matters.
    Protocol is not a matter of enforceable law, but I am curious where you are seeing that any talking is a breach.

  31. AWCheney said on 27 Mar 2008 at 1:21 am:
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    The “Sister Cities” program fell under the auspices of the US Information Agency (adjunct of the State Department) until 1999, after which all it’s information and exchange programs (including Sister Cities) were folded in the State Department’s Bureau of Public Affairs (part of the Foreign Affairs and Restructuring Act). Whatever you may believe Leila, there ARE Federal Government protocols involved in the interaction between OFFICIAL representatives of a foreign nation and local or state government representatives and, although many are informal, they are no less serious than the sovereignty of a foreign embassy on American soil. If you can’t understand the logic of this, perhaps you should do some of your own research into international law and relations. I did my own research first hand in the early to mid 80’s. The behavior of the Mexican Government and its official representatives toward Prince William County is a gross breach that would never have been tolerated by any Administration, unless they had an interest in selling out our country to a foreign power (YES, it’s that serious).

  32. AWCheney said on 27 Mar 2008 at 1:28 am:
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    And, YES, Deane SHOULD be fired for setting up any kind of a meeting of this nature with a foreign embassy without notifying and clearing it with his bosses (PWCBOS).

  33. Good Time Charlie said on 27 Mar 2008 at 2:40 am:
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    Where is SaveAmerica?

    He can make himself useful by submitting his name for the new supervisory position of Charlie Deane’s foreign policy unit.

  34. AWCheney said on 27 Mar 2008 at 3:08 am:
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    “Protocol is not a matter of enforceable law, but I am curious where you are seeing that any talking is a breach.”

    One more thing, Leila…this “meeting” is not merely talking. “Talking” between two officials is conducted in an office or some official setting behind closed doors. “Meeting” in a mini-mart is OBVIOUSLY some public media event being staged by a foreign government along with a local official for purposes of making some sort of a public statement of foreign policy (on the part of the foreign official). Deane should be toast.

    I’m getting the idea that, if our State Department is sanctioning this, our government has already turned us over to a foreign power to do with as they may. Maybe the other embassies should put in their bid, attempting to intimidate local citizens into doing things according to the wishes of foreign governments. Maybe President Bush should be invited to the mini-mart to turn over the keys to the government while we’re at it. Frankly, if our government is to change hands, I’d much rather it be a government other than Mexico…I hope they’ve thought that through.

    (2nd paragraph, sarcasm alert…the kind with a bit of caustic anger thrown in)

  35. SLB said on 27 Mar 2008 at 6:57 am:
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    The latest example of the crappy POST’s love for illegals…

  36. Rick Bentley said on 27 Mar 2008 at 7:11 am:
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    Why would Deane want to dispel fears about illegal aliens being subject to deportation? Deane undercuts the effort of our citizens, continually. I’d love to see a petition on firing him.

  37. Pat.Herve said on 27 Mar 2008 at 7:21 am:
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    maybe they are meeting town hall style to let the Legal Mexicans in PWC know that they are not being targeted, and how to handle themselves if/when their employer is targeted by ICE.

    The Legal Immigrants can sometimes be fearful also. The MJM does not say that this meeting is to talk to the Illegal Mexican Immigrants, or am I missing something.

  38. Angry Blackman! said on 27 Mar 2008 at 7:27 am:
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    ICE should also be invited. I am not against Hispanics, Latinos or any race but I am against “Illegal Aliens”.

    They have broken rules and what about this does the Mexican Consul not understand? I am outraged that they would even have the audacity to even suggest coming here and holding a meeting.

    Invite ICE!!!!!!!!!!

  39. Leila said on 27 Mar 2008 at 7:36 am:
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    AWC, I wasn’t doubting there were protocols. Although a breach of protocol isn’t the same as a breach of law even if it creates a major international incident as in De Gaulle’s saying Vivre le Quebec livre during a public appearance in Canada. Somehow I don’t the Mexican official meeting with Deane will have that kind of impact, but then PWC is an explosive place.

  40. Anonymous said on 27 Mar 2008 at 7:39 am:
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    Has anyone simply asked Chief Deane or his Public Relations Officer about the nature of this meeting?

  41. Rick Bentley said on 27 Mar 2008 at 8:16 am:
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    Man legal immigrants know darned well they’re not “targeted”. I see lots of them happy and with a seeming new outlook on life since the illegals started leaving. You won’t read about it in the Washington post but that’s the view from the ground.

    Targeted. I.e. we might enforce the law. Almost amazingly there’s been no violence and outside-the-law activity, it’s not as if anyone’s being lynched. Just asked to comply with US law. That’s considered targeting?

  42. Anonymous said on 27 Mar 2008 at 8:31 am:
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    “Has anyone simply asked Chief Deane or his Public Relations Officer about the nature of this meeting?”-

    Like Deane or his PRO would tell you the truth anyway. The PRO is told what to say by Deane so what’s the point.

    He is either over the deep end or finally showing his true colors. My guess is the latter.

  43. Krutis said on 27 Mar 2008 at 8:41 am:
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    Where is your idolized and admired county chief, Stewart, in all this?

  44. park'd said on 27 Mar 2008 at 8:44 am:
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    Well my take on this is that Charlie never bothered to meet with us citizens with regard to our desire to protect our neighborhoods and communities from blight and crime but seems to think that he has to cater to a minority community that isn’t even legally aloud to be here. Doesn’t anyone else see what a slap in the face this is to us?? He waves us away like a common fly that annoys him yet has his nose buried deep in the buttocks of the illegal community. It’s an outrage. Greg: can’t you use your contacts in the BOCS to get to the bottom of this and find out why this is happening? If this is sanctioned by the BOCS then it’s an outrage, but if it’s unsanctioned then it’s an UTTER outrage and he needs to be fired and the BOCS needs to be held to account for policing the chief of police.

  45. Saveamerica said on 27 Mar 2008 at 8:52 am:
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    Good Time Charlie, I’m just reading your rants and wondering why a Stafford County resident should have any say in PWC officials. Unless of course, there is an axe to grind.

  46. Chris Royse said on 27 Mar 2008 at 9:04 am:
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    Stop the folly, this is a political meeting and whether it’s illegal or not, good luck getting a ruling on that anytime soon.

    Security/Law Enforcement exchanges between Operators (i.e. not Diplomats or “Dips”) happen all the time and they should, as improving information sharing among these organizations was a major recommendation of the 9-11 Commission. Meetings abroad with Local Security/Law Enforcement Officials are to discuss activities on the ground resulting from an agreement between the US and their country 1. To understand and gain their assistance in assuring we follow THEIR LAWS in the conduct of US official business as a GUEST of THEIR COUNTRY and 2. To ensure there is an open line of communications so that if anytime something does not seem right, in effect, a “time out,” can be called until things could be resolved. If anyone was uncomfortable, it is reported back to the Dips there’s a problem. Security/Law Enforcement investigate, Dips negotiate. Rarely do you get to meet with the Chief directly. You do not discuss “why they have a law” except on the rare occasion they want to explain its necessity due to a danger that had existed to their citizens due to lawlessness in the past (where have we heard of this scenario before?). Operators don’t ask and quite frankly, don’t care so much about the “whys” other than to ensure they are following it to the letter.

    Diplomat to top Local Law Enforcement employee meeting? There’s no investigating occurring and surely, at the county level, no employee is engaging in negotiating during tonight’s meeting right? What’s going on then? Hmmm, watch for the bribes behind the scenes; put on a display of “openness” and “information sharing” while the Banco de Mexico trucks unload pesos into certain high placed employees’ retirement accounts. Why do you think our borders are so porous, because we are doing nothing? C’mon.

    The only thing I want to hear out of the GOM and the El Sal Consulate located here is that they are willing to sign a joint-resolution with our BOCS (i.e. elected officials which have testified before Congress on our position) denouncing illegal immigration and their pledge to assist with our rule of law resolution and to pay reparations for their lax internal/border security which, yes it can be and has been demonstrated attorneys, harm to our nation.

  47. Chris Royse said on 27 Mar 2008 at 9:29 am:
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    Last sentence 9:04 a.m. post:

    …lax internal/border security which has caused, yes it can be and has been demonstrated attorneys, harm to our nation.

  48. Ted said on 27 Mar 2008 at 9:31 am:
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    I called Covington’s office about this and am waiting for a response. My thought, no way should Deane be meeting with the reps of another country. If Mexico has a problem with what PWC is doing they should take it up with Condi.

  49. Howard the Duck said on 27 Mar 2008 at 9:44 am:
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    What??? You mean the government that Elvira spoke to the National Assembly after she was deported? That hands out instructions on how to cross the border illegally? That issues matricular counsular id’s? You have to be kidding!

    When, just when, did that government ever, ever, consider our interests? That tells you right there what the public will get out of this:


  50. starryflights said on 27 Mar 2008 at 9:52 am:
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    I emailed the BOCS and can’t wait to receive some replies.

  51. Dave in PWC said on 27 Mar 2008 at 10:23 am:
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    I too mailed Corey and the rest of the BOCS last night around midnight and have not heard a thing.

  52. Dave in PWC said on 27 Mar 2008 at 10:23 am:
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    corr: should have said emailed.

  53. LBM said on 27 Mar 2008 at 10:28 am:
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    @ Big Dog

    Actually Pemex’s capacity for meeting demand with supply is rapidly declining. Mexico’s principal field for oil has passed peak. The cheap crude we imported from them is coming to an end and expect Mexican imports to cease in a couple of years. As their prime source of income vanishes, expect more and more people to venture north.

    As for why the Mexican Counsul will be here…



  54. Dave in PWC said on 27 Mar 2008 at 10:36 am:
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    Somebody from BOCS Jenkins office reads your blog. Not 10 minutes after I posted that I hadn’t heard from anyone, an email arrives and says that it’s been received and is being reviewed…

  55. monticup said on 27 Mar 2008 at 10:42 am:
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    Is Charlie Deane conducting foreign policy? He can’t even do the job he is SUPPOSED to do. Does he have the authority to meet with Mexican governmental officials? I doubt it. Someone, call the State Department, we have some here impersonating a diplomat!

  56. Cardinal/Flag/Dogwood said on 27 Mar 2008 at 10:47 am:
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    Will Sen. Puller be there, seated with the Mexican officials? Should be, seeing as she voted down every illegal immigration bill that made it to the Senate this year, straight Democrat Party Line (Charlie’s party).

    Never mind. The only time Toddy takes a stand is when she can crouch behind the DPV. She needs to go as well.

  57. Kathy Royse said on 27 Mar 2008 at 11:08 am:
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    This morning I have contacted Senators Warner and Webb, Congressman Davis, Senator Puller, Delegate Frederick and Supervisor Principi regarding this ridiculous meeting. So far I have learned that Delegate Frederick’s office learned of it from the newspaper.

    I certainly hope there is a large turnout for this “informational meeting”. I, for one, would like to know why a local police chief is meeting with representatives from a foreign government. It seems to me like this is a job for the United States Department of State.

  58. Bill Dupray said on 27 Mar 2008 at 12:21 pm:
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    Tried to email at admin@bvbl.net, but it got kicked back as undeliverable. Just wanted to say thanks for the link in the blogroll. My blog is www.patriotroom.com and I cover conservative politics with occasional sarcasm, as warranted. I have added this site to my blogroll.

    Bill Dupray

  59. Judy T. said on 27 Mar 2008 at 12:55 pm:
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    Well looks like I need to be at Hi-Mart tonight

  60. Bryanna said on 27 Mar 2008 at 12:59 pm:
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    Has anyone contacted Chief Deane’s supervisor County Executive Craig Gerhardt, or the Assistant Executive Melissa Peacor to confirm the origination of this directive? I don’t think the Chief would act on this with out pre-approval from at least the county attorney’s offce.

  61. Big Dog said on 27 Mar 2008 at 1:14 pm:
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    “If the community understands completely what is
    going on, they will have a better understanding of the
    current situation. People need to be informed. It is
    important that they listen to the chief of police”
    Enrique Escorza, Mexican Consul
    Washington Examiner (3-27-2008)

    What is wrong with that?

    - Chief Deane is doing part of his job- explaining the law.

    -Officials of friendly foreign governments meet all the
    time with local officials for many reasons. It is not
    that uncommon, trust me.

  62. k. o'toole said on 27 Mar 2008 at 1:18 pm:
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    According to this, http://www.wtop.com/?nid=600&sid=1373303 the meeting is in the old KMart building in Woodbridge - what is that, an abandoned building?

  63. Bryanna said on 27 Mar 2008 at 1:25 pm:
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    The Hi-Mart is a member of the Prince William Regional Chamber of Commerce. The Hi-Mart general manager is a member of the Chamber’s Hispanic Business Council. Radio Fiesta owner C. Marshall is the chairwoman of the Chamber’s Hispanic Business Council.

    Radio Fiesta has retained the services of Miles Friedman. Friedman is considered an international expert in economic development and has been boasting of his consulting efforts on this project. Friedman supposedly has been setting up a Radio Fiesta Foundation to help failing hispanic owned businesses in Prince William.

    The man is a Pandak “for just the cost of a pizza” buffoon. This is probably a publicity stunt to help fund the Foundation!

  64. starryflights said on 27 Mar 2008 at 1:35 pm:
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    I just called Jenkins office and was told that they had only received one other phone call about this and that she didn’t know if Police Chief Deane had the authority to meet with foreign government officials or not. I hope more people will contact the BOCS about this matter. I am looking forward to hearing and updates that Greg L. can dig up. I really want to know what the BOCS thinks about Deane possibly usurping their authority.

  65. Anonymous said on 27 Mar 2008 at 2:02 pm:
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    I received this response so far (what do you think?):

    The meeting at the HiMart tonight is part of a larger public outreach/public education and information campaign by the Police Department to explain the new illegal immigration program. There have been upwards of 50 of these meetings throughout the county since the Fall. The audiences for these have included business leaders, members of the faith community, foreign government representatives (Consuls), school employees, county employees, civic associations, etc. In addition to the Mexican Consul in attendance tonight, there will be many private citizens. You are welcome to attend. The locations of these public meetings have included public facilities, businesses, restaurants, and churches. Incidentally, there is no link between the ICE raid earlier this week and this meeting as it was scheduled several weeks ago. The Police Department plans to issue a press release later today.

    Supervisor Frank J. Principi

    Prince William County Board of Supervisors, Woodbridge Magisterial District

    15941 Donald Curtis Drive, Suite 140

    Woodbridge, Virginia 22191


  66. Johnson said on 27 Mar 2008 at 2:03 pm:
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    The Post story today is a perfect end to our efforts. Illegals leaving PWC, as the initiatives intend them to do.

  67. Anonymous said on 27 Mar 2008 at 2:05 pm:
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    Could it really be that Police Deane doesn’t want illegal aliens to leave this county? I have to wonder. Principi doesn’t say whether or not the BOCS approved this “police outreach program” that is welcoming and possibly conspiring with foreign government officials.

  68. Ted said on 27 Mar 2008 at 2:14 pm:
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    So which one is it?

    Another in a series of community outreach meetings or a one on one with consular officials resulting from the ICE raid in Manassas?

  69. Johnson said on 27 Mar 2008 at 2:30 pm:
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    Sounds as if Deane and Principati need to get their stories together.

  70. Anonymous said on 27 Mar 2008 at 2:30 pm:
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    To me, there is a big difference between community outreach meetings and meeting with Mexican Government Officials.

  71. Anonymous said on 27 Mar 2008 at 2:37 pm:
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    This video may show what is going to happen.


  72. Patty said on 27 Mar 2008 at 3:05 pm:
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    Big Dog, you obviously promote misinformation. Foreign governments do not meet with local officials especially police chiefs on a regular basis. Part of the Rule of Law resolution was community education not educating every foreign government that has its cititzens in this county illegally. The citizens of Prince William County are now footing the bill for this meeting with a foreign government official. I think this is an outrage. I’m sure that this foreign consulate realizes that entry into this country is to be by legal means. He needs no further education.

    Since when did the Chief of Police start working for the State Department. This whole meeting is uncalled for and as far as I know not authorized by our elected supervisors. I’m beginning to wonder who works for who. Does Chief Deane work for the Board of County Supervisors or do the County Board of Supervisors work for Chief Deane?

    I really do not think Chief Deane ever liked the Rule of Law resolution. I don’t think he has his heart into it. I think with the times we live in and types of things we’ve seen in this county the last six years maybe the Chief needs to retire. Maybe the game has passed him by so to speak.

  73. manassascityresident said on 27 Mar 2008 at 3:06 pm:
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    off topic:

    Just watched Corey Stewart on FOX NEWS with E.D. Hill, discussing the resolution and its effects in PWC.
    He did an outstanding job!
    Well done, Chairman Stewart!

  74. starryflights said on 27 Mar 2008 at 3:13 pm:
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    Response from Supervisor Nohe:

    Thank you for taking the time to share these comments. While I can certainly understand your concern, I can assure you that the Chief is acting propertly in accoradance wiht county policy. The Board of County Supervisors directed the Chief of Police to engage in a public outreach effort to educate the public, particularly minority and/or immigrant communities, regarding the illegal immigration policy that the Board adopted back in October. This meeting is part of that Public Outreach effort.

    I hope that this answers your questions. If you have any others, or if my office can assist you in any other matter, please do not hesitate to contact me at any time.

    Marty Nohe

    Martin E Nohe
    Coles District Supervisor

  75. starryflights said on 27 Mar 2008 at 3:14 pm:
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    Supervisor Nohe doesn’t say anything about authorizing Deane to hold meetings with foreign government officials.

  76. Anonymous said on 27 Mar 2008 at 3:31 pm:
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    Which supervisor is Chief Deane’s boss? Hell they can’t even get together long enough to agree on a tax rate to advertise. It took meeting in a special session. It would make more sense to me to have the County Executive Officer be the boss. I see nothing wrong with informal talks. Who knows what transpired before hand.

    I will meanwhile try to spend my time trying to figure out why so many people on bvbl want to have Chief Deane fired. It sounds to me like he didn’t roll over and do someone’s bidding.

  77. Bryanna said on 27 Mar 2008 at 3:41 pm:
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    The county executive IS Chief Deane’s boss, not the Board of County Supervisors, or any one specific supervisor.

    Chief Deane is acting on specific orders from his boss. At least he isn’t guilty of insubordination!

  78. Loudoun said on 27 Mar 2008 at 3:42 pm:
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    The Mexican consulate has absolutely no business sticking their noses in our county affairs. If the Mexican consulate wants information about our government policies - they should take it up with the U.S. Department of State.

  79. Big Dog said on 27 Mar 2008 at 3:50 pm:
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    Chief Deane should use all the legal available resources
    to help explain the “rule of law” to those most
    impacted. If a Mexican consul wants to join
    by supporting the Chief then all the better.

    This is, if nothing else, good PR for a county that really
    needs it.

    Patty, take a deep breath, and read the information
    from Nohe and Principi. Are they also
    “misinformed”? Calm down and think.

  80. Bryanna said on 27 Mar 2008 at 3:54 pm:
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    Nohe is giving lip service to the situation. Chief Deane is trying to avoid rioting and subdue threats of a civil war.

    I think NOT going to this event sends a stronger message….. The Rule of Law Resolution is done. We won, it’s over….LEAVE.

    They want attention, an audience, and to make the news. Don’t give it to them.

  81. Anonymous said on 27 Mar 2008 at 4:11 pm:
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    The histeria on this thread is laughable. Maintaining order is the Chief’s “Prime Directive”. Let the Chief do his job.

  82. starryflights said on 27 Mar 2008 at 4:17 pm:
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    So the taxpayers of Prince William County are funding the cracking down on illegal immigration and at the same time the taxpayers of Prince William County are paying for all these meetings of Deane’s to “educate” criminals (illegal aliens) so that they will not fear the crackdown and will stay in Prince William County. No wonder this country is in such a mess!

  83. SaveAmerica said on 27 Mar 2008 at 7:02 pm:
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    Hey Starryflights, there is NO County expense for this meeting. The building was NOT rented by the County and the Chief is a salaried employee so he gets nothing extra for being there tonight. So, Starryflights, please show me the expense to the County.

  84. monticup said on 27 Mar 2008 at 8:18 pm:
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    SaveAmerica: The expense to the county is this: Chief Deane spent time with the Mexican official on the county’s dime. This took away time he SHOULD have been spending on appropriate business.

    Another cost to the county is the spectacle of Chief Deane conducting “diplomacy” and making a fool of himself. This goes against standard protocol, I’m certain.

  85. PWC born said on 27 Mar 2008 at 8:50 pm:
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    Has anyone noticed that all of the pro Deane comments in here are Anonymous. Could it be all of Charlie’s Boys?

  86. Good Time Charlie said on 27 Mar 2008 at 8:53 pm:
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    Save America-
    Not sure why I should even bother to respond but I an a product of PWC, always have been and always will be. Stafford isn’t my thing. How about you.

  87. Patty said on 27 Mar 2008 at 10:38 pm:
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    Did you ever work? I’m sure Chief Deane is filling out his expense report right now. Let’s see mileage, food, drinks, etc. He may have handed out brochures and information packets.

    It is totally unnecessary for the Chief of Police to inform foreign consulates on the Rule of Law resolution. Who is next? The consulate from El Salvador, from Honduras, from Anogola. Shoot, he might as well put in a call to the UN.

  88. Dolph said on 27 Mar 2008 at 11:13 pm:
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    Chief Deane probably doesn’t work routinely at 7 p.m. Most county employees do get to go home occassionally. He was directed by the supervisors to educate the community. He is doing that. He isn’t costing the tax payers a red cent. He isn’t utilizing county space, and he isn’t on the clock. Chief Deane is salaried. He makes as much if he works 1 hour a day or 24 hours a day.

    PWC born, anonymous? now let me guess…if I look in the phone book under born, I am going to see PWC as a first name, and when I call you are going to answer? Nahhh…and you won’t get me on the phone if you call the dolph hotline. We are both anonymous. I am not one of Charlie’s boys though. Not even a county employee.

    I am a Chief Deane supporter. I admire someone who will not roll over and play dead under political pressure. He hasn’t caved to political hysteria which shows he has a lot more integrity and common sense than many of his critics.

  89. Patty said on 27 Mar 2008 at 11:15 pm:
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    Your wrong about the cost. He does fill out an expense report. I think you know that. Defend him for something else but don’t defend him for this.

  90. Patty said on 27 Mar 2008 at 11:23 pm:
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    He is on the path of life who heeds instruction, but he who ignores reproof goes astray. Prov 10:17

  91. monticup said on 28 Mar 2008 at 9:50 am:
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    Deane IS rolling over and playing dead–to the Mexican consulate.
    What is his agenda, anyhow?

  92. Dolph said on 28 Mar 2008 at 2:39 pm:
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    Last I heard his agenda was to do his job in accordance with the objectives set forth by Prince William County. He has not told me personally though.

    No one has offered any proof of wrong doing. I seriously doubt if any will be found, regardless of how many rocks are overturned.

    If anyone is concerned over the gas that it took Chief Deane to get to the meeting last night, then we have much bigger financial problems than I thought.

  93. Anonymous said on 29 Mar 2008 at 6:51 am:
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    “I am a Chief Deane supporter. I admire someone who will not roll over and play dead under political pressure. He hasn’t caved to political hysteria which shows he has a lot more integrity and common sense than many of his critics.”


  94. FHL said on 29 Mar 2008 at 9:17 am:
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    Chief Deane did a wonderful job Wednesday evening. I am not a PW Co resident but wanted to attend the meeting to see what would transpire. Chief Deane was informative and answered many unanswered questions. He is admirable man doing a great job!!!!

  95. citizenofManassas said on 29 Mar 2008 at 5:26 pm:
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    Give it a break. This is a guy who did not even want to pick up people like the rapist or the hores who were busted this week in the County. Until he was told to do so by his bosses.

    How is that doing a good job?

  96. citizenofManassas said on 29 Mar 2008 at 5:28 pm:
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    that should be whores.

  97. Dolph said on 30 Mar 2008 at 2:23 pm:
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    Proof? Who says he didn’t want to pick up rapists and whores? Which rapists and whores? Do you mean his officers or he himself personally?

    I love all these sprinklings of stories without giving details.

  98. CitizenofManassas said on 30 Mar 2008 at 6:09 pm:
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    Again, if Deane had his way, the illegal alien who was arrested for raping a four year would not have been checked for immigration status and after serving his jail time, if convicted, would have been released and allowed to continue to live in the County. The illegal alien whores who were busted in the whore house this past week would have been treated the same way.

  99. Dolph said on 31 Mar 2008 at 4:17 am:
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    Would those be the illegal Korean whores or other whores? I missed the whore arrests this past week.

    How on earth do you know what Chief Deane would have done or not done about arresting the rapist? How come he has arrested child molesters for 30 some years? Has he declared a hiatus on perv arrests?

  100. CitizenofManassas said on 31 Mar 2008 at 8:08 am:
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    I’m not sure of the Nationality of the whores, all I know is that they are illegal, and that is most important thing.

    As I said, Deane did not want to crack down on illegals, because in his words, he did not want to harm community relations with hispanics. You need to ask him why he seems to only want to target selective criminals of selective ethnicities. I can’t figure out the mind of a someone who is in law enforcement who does not want to take every step possible to fight crime.

    Stop making excuses for Deane, you simply will not own up to the fact he did not want this illegal immigration program from the start and is only on board because the BOS voted for it.

    Clearly he would not have wanted it. Under the program if the alleged rapist was pulled over and it he was suspected of being an illegal, he would have been taken off the street. Before the program started(the one Deane was opposed to) he would have been given a ticket and told to have a nice day.

    Now, you tell me if the program makes sense and tell me why someone who is in law enforcement would be opposed to such a program if it lead directly to criminals being taken out of the community.

  101. CitizenofManassas said on 31 Mar 2008 at 8:19 am:
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    Here is a post from last year regarding Deane. Why would the Washington Examiner call for the resignation of a law enforcement official? Maybe for not wanting to enforce the law????


  102. Dolph said on 31 Mar 2008 at 11:13 am:
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    Opinions about opinions. Where are the facts?

    Many LEOs across the nation feel as Chief Deane does, from a professional point of view. At the end of the day, those who want to remain in their job do what the boss says.

    From the people I know who have attended Chief Deane’s information sessions, he has done an excellent job of informing the public of the policies and laws in Prince William County.

    I just see this as character assassination and nothing more. Show me some facts and I might agree. To date, there have been none.

  103. CitizenofManassas said on 31 Mar 2008 at 4:01 pm:
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    Are you kidding? Let me break this down like I do when I ask those who support illegals(though I suspect you would run off too).

    1. Did Deane speak out against the program?

    2. Did he insult the County when he spoke out against the program?

    Funny, how you say many LEO’s feel the same way as Deane does, but you say you really can’t say how or what he feels. Well, which one is it?

    You will not take first hand what he has said as proof that he is against the program, but you will take second hand observations and believe them to the tee that Deane has done a good job in these meetings. Gee, Dolph, it seems that you are willing to believe anyone as long as it matches what you want to believe.

    It is not character assassination to point out that Deane was against the program when he came against it.

  104. Dolph said on 31 Mar 2008 at 5:20 pm:
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    Can you say dog with a bone? Geez. Can you not accept that we disagree on this issue?

    I do not know how Chief Deane FEELS. I know the concerns he voiced. You do understand that he might feel compelled to give features, advantages, and benefits based on his professional knowledge.

    It is character assassination to accuse our Chief of Police of nefarious behavior when none had been proven.

    As stated on the other thread, you may have the last word, we will not agree on this issue.

  105. Dolph said on 31 Mar 2008 at 11:17 pm:
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    Earlier topic. I found the whores you were referring to. I had overlooked them. It looks like 2 of them were Asian illegal. The impressive thing is, it also appears that some johns were arrested. Now here is my question for you: were all the johns legal? And if they weren’t, would they have been taken to ICE? My whore legal-ese is fairly limited. I was glad to see the males arrested too. It does take 2 to ‘tango.’

  106. CitizenofManassas said on 1 Apr 2008 at 11:49 pm:
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    I believe some of the “Johns” were arrested, though, I’m not sure on what charges.

    Would they even have been asked six months ago about their legal status? I doubt it.

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