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This Sign Should Not Be Vandalized
By Greg L | 5 April 2008 | Manassas City | 73 Comments
PWC Conservative is reporting that there are rumblings from residents about personally taking action against the outrageous sign that has been erected in Manassas City. While I understand and share the frustration that residents feel, any person damaging this sign would do Manassas City a great disservice. Vandalism is wrong, whatever the reason that may motivate it.
I would encourage citizens to keep an eye on this sign and take whatever actions they can to prevent anyone from damaging it. If in your travels you can alter your route to swing by this sign to keep an eye on it, I would personally appreciate it. Should you observe anyone attempting to damage this sign, please contact the police immediately.
The proper venue for your frustrations are your elected officials, and I am sure they would welcome hearing from you on this subject. The Manassas City Government will eventually resolve this situation, provided residents make their feelings clear on this, and while that process may take longer than many of us would hope, the legal process here is just as important as efforts to support the rule of law in Prince William County. We cannot embrace efforts to encourage lawful behavior in one jurisdiction while ignoring the rule of law in another.
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Anyone who damages the sign is showing the same lack of respect for the rule of law as those that put up the sign.
It should not be vandilized. But, it should be demolished by PWC for Zoning violations, and the bill sent to the owner of record.
Isn’t this sign in the City of Manassas? I don’t believe Prince William County can do anything about it.
Pat Herve, PWC isn’t going to do anything about the
sign - while it was apparently motivated by the
PWC “resolution”, the actual sign - for the 100th time - is in
the City of Manassas - not in Prince William County.
Be clear, as odious as we find the sign, it should NOT
be vandalized. Those who advocate “rule of law”
should take their own advice. The judicial system
may well decide this “land use” issue.
Those who have the most to gain by destroying the sign are the very activists who put it up. Maybe subconsciously that was the purpose of making it so inflammatory… to provoke the more passionate anti-illegals to react.
Would add, another reason the sign should not
be vandalized is that it makes public that the radical
pro-illegals are nut cases, totally out of touch with reality.
Reading the sign once will let anyone know that you
won’t be having a reasoned rational productive
discussion with these folks. The thing is a billboard
for supporting Greg and HSM - they should
send Mr. Fernandez a thank you card.
I keep mentioning the Railway Festival coming in June, but no one seems to take any interest. How many groups that put on displays there may decide to forgo it because of the sign ? I’d like to know your thoughts on what may happen.
Good Golly, Miss Molly - we don’t have to wait until
June - The weekend of April 12-13th will have:
- The Old Town Manassas farmer’s market
across the street from the sign.
- A Civil War encampment on the museum
lawn - Union and Confederate re-enactors -
just across Liberty St. from the sign.
- The VRE parking garage being completed -
one block down from the sign
- Several events at the Harris Pavillion -
a block away from the sign.
- If history is a guide, a gathering of dancers
band, etc. at the sign site.
- Lake Woebegone’s famous flying Gospel Birds
(Ok, this one is still a maybe)
- Plus, of course, the normal activity of
a vibrant city.
- Spring is here!
Anyone who skips the wonderful railroad festival because of this sign is as much an idiot as th people who put this sign up. If the people who erected this sign think this is helping their cause, they are complete bumbling idiots.
Hmmm, sounds like a fun place, despite all the illegals’ grumblings!
Yes, by all means, let us leave the sign alone, it is a perfect example of the ingratitude, disrespect and uncivil disobedience of the mass of people who came here by breaking the law. By allowing it to stay without vandalism, we will come out in the end the better, while the scurrilous verbiage will fail to impress those who know the truth and may even awaken some to what these people really have in mind.
Why are you people so afraid of the truth. I hear a lot of generalized BS but no details. What in the sign is not a fact. There is a long history 500 years of white people acting solely in their best interest regardless of the rights, pain, death, suffering of brown people of color. I have been asking for weeks for you people to get into detail and explain what the problem is.
This fact is as we look around the world there are no borders for white people. The last wall or border for white people in Europe was torn down after decades of protests by your people. Ronald Regan himself said “tear down that wall”, “it divides the continent and limit freedom.”
There is no wall with Canada. White people go to Mexico when they please and stay as long as desired. Can you at least be honest and admit that you just want to keep the majority of Turtle Islands inhabitants, who are brown Native Americans, out of what you consider to be white land. You know there are nearly a billion brown Indians on the other side of that artificially created border and your dream of manifest destiny dies if you do the morally and ethically legal thing and allow indigenous native Americans access to their own homeland.
Any group of thugs can steal something from someone at the point of a gun, declare their own rules and punish others who violate these artificial rules. If there is such as thing as terrorism this is it. It is what you are and have been doing to people of color on Turtle Island for 500 years and are continuing today with the deportation of brown Native Americans. Is that all you and the USA stand for. I have higher regard for white people than this. I believe that you have good hearts. I do not believe that you are merely bullying thugs. But you are the only ones that can prove this to the world by stopping the bullying and claiming to be such sweet innocent people. Look at Iraq. look at Vietnam, Look at Panama, look at central American. You have killed one million brown people in Iraq to get oil for your cars, all based upon lies and propaganda, and I see no remorse. Just the continued vilification of more brown people to justify your continued killing.
When will you stop the greed!!!!
IndigenousNativeAmerican
Fighting Terrorism since 1492
Just returned from Old Town Manassas-
- Hundreds of volunteers were gathering at the Harris
Pavillion to celebrate at the finish of their fund
raising walk to help fight Multiple
Sclerosis. Manassas has become a popular place
for these worthy groups to gather and we are
pleased to welcome them.
-The first vendors of Spring were at the Old Town
Farmer’s market. We are happy to see our old
friends.
- Mr. Fernandez’s sign - smeared with his dirty
bile of ignorance and hate. Sickening.
- Who adds to the community and who detacts from it?
That is the question.
COM - I don’t think you understand what “rule of law” means….
Indigenous Native American,
- As a white person, I have indeed gone to other
countries — with passport in hand. Anyone, including
you, can do the same. Nobody goes and comes as
they please — except, well, illegals.
- Whites indeed are not without blame in
their settlement of the New (to them) World.
But remember the Aztecs were a great culture, but
one built in no small part on bloody conquest. The
same could be said of the Sioux, Crow and many
other indian tribes - years before Columbus.
- As for the sign - please support the
statement that, in a country of thousands of jurisdictions,
PWC and Manassas are the “National Capital
of Intolerance”. Hazelton, Pa. gets a ride?
The state of Arizona? The list is large.
- “They ignore our civil and constitutional rights”
Amen, the Feds and you are kicking us down the
street with “our own tax money”.
“We will not be your slaves of the 21st century.”
People, legally and illegally, came here of thier own
free will and may leave at any time. That isn’t slavery.
The native population of Manassas refuses to
be your slave - supporting schools, hospitals, parks, etc.
only to see them abused by people unwilling to
do and pay their fair share.
I love that sign! It shows everyone what a bunch of spineless wimps are on the Manassas City Council.
Indigenous Native American, you are very uneducated and to engage in a discussion with you on immigration you would be an insult to people who oppose to 287g. Get a clue, you words hurt your cause.
Wise up or shut up.
IndigenousNativeAmerican is not an American at all…never has been, never will be…but if he’s offered amnesty he will no doubt lie and take the oath. Still not an American…how sad.
Interesting concept…vandalism should not be vandalized! Maybe the sign could be “improved upon” with a simple whitewash. What they should do with the sign is make it part of every marketing effort undertaken by the City of Manassas. It should be featured prominently in all literature. If the City is that proud of the thing, they should be honest about it.
I think it would be nice to see the United States Flag painted on both sides of this monstrosity.
starry flights 2:43 pm
Cannot agree with you more. It would be a pretty sight, wouldn’t it?
Back to Greg’s title “This Sign Should Not Be Vandalized”.
Agree 100%, if for no other reason than that is
what Mr. Fernandez and his pals want someone
to do for them. Don’t think for a second the community
isn’t being baited. You can bet MWB has ulterior motives.
Leave it alone — it demeans them more than anyone else.
Big Dog: “Don’t think for a second the community
isn’t being baited. You can bet MWB has ulterior motives.”
Needs repeated.
This sign is like some one in a bar picking a fight with a drunk so he will said some one over the head with a glass and get charged with assault with a deadly weapon.
IndigenousNativeAmerican,
Anything else you’d like to say? I guess by now you’ve figured that history is just that, history. We live in the present, so get over whatever it is that you are whining about. I’m sure you’d feel right at home in Mexico, so go!
Haven’t been called a spineless wimp yet Advocator. I’ll add that to the list of deficiencies.
Well, at least no one has called for me to hanged yet…;)
Advocator said:
“I love that sign! It shows everyone what a bunch of spineless wimps are on the Manassas City Council.”
As a resident of the City of Manassas living just blocks from the sign, and as one who hates that detestable, man-made billboard as much as anyone, I am proud of our City Council for being so patient and tolerant. They are doing exactly the opposite of what MWB and their ilk hoped they would do. In my view, despite that ugly eyesore, its lingering presence speaks more of the character and wisdom of our leaders, than of any kind of spinelessness.
“Mr. Fernandez and his pals want someone
to do for them. Don’t think for a second the community
isn’t being baited. You can bet MWB has ulterior motives.”
You’re absolutely correct, Big Dog…just like that Molotov Cocktail which was so conveniently found sitting by the sign that time. Anybody ever hear of someone producing a Molotov Cocktail and not using it?? It’s very simple…you just throw and run like the Devil. I believe that this “Devil” had other intentions…like publicity. Just watch them vandalize their own sign. If nobody bites, it’ll happen. It might be wise for the City to put a camera in a strategic location. There’s no honor among these people, and that includes you, so-called IndigenousNativeAmerican…there’s only greed and avarice.
“correctly”
I sure understand it, you are the one that does not.
DisingenuousNativeAmerican,
This “native american” BS doesn’t cut it with me… 3 scenarios:
1. Police Officer, “You were driving 30 mph over the limit.”
Native American, “But I am a native American. I am not subject to your laws.”
Police Officer, “Oh, excuse me! Continue on then!”
2. IRS Agent, “You didn’t pay your taxes!”
Native American, “But I am a native American. I am not subject to your laws.”
IRS Agent, “Oh, silly me! Yes, you don’t owe any taxes!”
3. Immigration Agent, “Hey, you broke into our country!”
Native American, “But I am a native American. I am not subject to your laws.”
Immigration Agent, “I’m sorry! Please continue on your way!”
These scenarios don’t work for obvious reasons.
Now, if a native American was living in a teepee, on government land, hunting with a bow and arrow, and a ranger insisted that he buy a hunting license, I would be one of the first to chastise that ranger! But these “native americans” want to live in homes, send their children to public schools, etc. If you want to live in society then you must play by society’s rules. You cannot have it both ways.
If you don’t want to play by society’s rules then you are welcome to move to a country where the rules are not enforced as strongly. I hear Mexico is one such country. BTW, ever wonder why Mexican society is such a disaster and people are crying to get out?
I agree that no vandalism should befall the sign. However during certain festivals in old town, the powers that be could in fact close the street and erect a tarp or other screen to divert eyes away from the latest lecture at hand if they so choose. That decision lies with them. As for the moniker IndigenousNative American, I don’t quite understand. Are you indigenous or native?
Karla Homolka!??? The Karla Homolka?
I’ll make the observation that the sign is both amateurish and boringly unattractive. In fact, it’s almost shockingly grade-schoolish when viewed up close. While I’ll certainly concede that these are not (in and of themselves) reasons to deface it, I’m also willing to accept that defacing this sign is hardly the same thing as putting a moustache on the “Mona Lisa”, or publicly treating the American flag as a casual piece of apparel. [By the way, I’ve seen a couple of the regular contributors here do THAT, and it annoys me a little. Appreciate the flag, don’t wear it. I spent well over a decade defending your right to do and say and wear whatever you want, but that doesn’t change the fact that smearing your sweat on your flag t-shirt strikes me as somewhat disrespectful.]
IndigenousNativeAmerican - You’ll want to be careful about casually throwing around the term “BS”. Some of us take it a bit personally!
Bob S. I agree that there are excuses to deface the sign, and by the way I thank you for your service to our country. Yes the sign is juvenile, but I feel that it must be allowed to stand for the point..their point. Do I have to agree? No. Instead of worring about what people might see when they come to old town, the elected officials can simply cover the sign, they have the ability. It could be a tarp, or some strategically place moon bounces.
Leila said on 5 Apr 2008 at 7:50 pm:
Karla Homolka!??? The Karla Homolka?
Okay, not knowing the moniker, I had to look. Yeesh!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karla_Homolka
i doubt that’s really “the” Karla Homolka; her changed name is still “teale” last I checked. But if I happen to be wrong, we have a celebrity in our midst!
Josh
I guess that’ll give the DNC something else to whine about.
josh said on 5 Apr 2008 at 8:17 pm:
i doubt that’s really “the” Karla Homolka; her changed name is still “teale” last I checked.
Well, duh.
But if I happen to be wrong, we have a celebrity in our midst!
And I’ll change my moniker to Bernard Goetz.
If the poster actually shares the name in real life, she has my sympathies and I apologize for bringing it up. It must be difficult, particularly anywhere near the Canadian border. If she chose it as an alias, I am curious why. Talking about “society’s rules” would be stretch!
Bernard Goetz is like Mr. Rogers compared to “the” KH.
Leila - I’ve got a lady acquaintance from Canada (but who lives here now) whose name is vaguely similar to Homolka’s. She has mentioned repeatedly that the closer she gets to the US/Canada border, the more folks who feel the need to mention her name with shock, awe and/or disgust. Those darned vicious Canadians! (Now, THERE’S a sentence you won’t see very often!)
Isn’t the land the sign on a part of Mexico? The presidente of Mexico says that anywhere there is a Mexican, there is Mexico. Maybe that is why the Manassas City councel will not address the problem and continues to ignore it.
Anonymous - Well, there you go! Nothing can be done. We can all stop worrying about it. Whew!
(By the way, think up a name. Don’t blend in with all of the other “Anonymous”-es. You’re much more interesting than them!)
if you live in the city, and you are upset that the city is letting ONE homeowner get away with violating billboard laws, there’s a simple short-term approach –
Put up your own huge signs. Especially if you live anywhere near this sign. Make them nice, make them vulgar, make them advertisements and see if you can get a company to pay you. Do whatever you want, litter manassas city with billboards.
Better still, if you live over in the REALLY NICE section, along 234, put up a really huge sign expressing your opinion about God, Jesus, Immigration, Taxes — whatever tickles your fancy. If you live next to one of the city administrators, make sure they can see the signs when they drive into their homes.
Sometimes a government will let a person get away with lawbreaking, because it’s just “one guy”, and they are afraid of rocking the boat.
The solution is to make it absolutely intolerable for the city to “allow” a billboard, by putting up so many that it becomes clear that they need a law against it, and they need to enforce it.
And as soon as they enforce it against one person, they will have to do it for all of them.
So, IF you want this sign down, that’s what you should do. I’m NOT saying you should want the sign down — just noting the obvious way to acheive that goal, or destroy the character of Manassas City trying.
[Ed note: I would strongly advise readers not to take this advice. Harming the city is not the way to enhance it, even if the tactic might be effective.]
indig: I’m no psychiatrist but you sound paranoid to me.
Charles, that’s just about the most asinine suggestion I’ve heard regarding the Manassas “sign.” That’s just what the citizens and legal residents of Manassas need…a sign war. I can’t imagine anything else that would play so thoroughly into the hands of those people already violating laws and ordinances with the original sign than to give them the excuse to put more of them up all over the City, and most likely MP and PWC as well!
AWC, perhaps a few more Fernandez signs all over the city and county might change your mind about Charles’ suggestion. It may sound far-fetched, but there are MANY abandoned/razed homes around here, that Fernandez and friends just may decide to adopt his idea themselves.
Charles’ idea is a sign war, legal 2, started by the legal residents. Read his comment more carefully. The LAST thing we need, which will really trash this area, is that!
Oh yeah, and by the way…that would REALLY set a fine example if the “Rule of Law” folks start doing as the illegal aliens and their apologists do.
What I can not figure out is how can these people continue to allow this property to sit in a nonproductive state. How can they pay the bills related to the property ownership?
Is MWB or John Steinbeck or Nancy Lyall, et.al paying their mortgage, taxes, insurance, etc.?
Mr. Big Dog you’re my kind of guy. All of these other people seem to be mindless generalists. Now you are talking details that we can dig into. But I warn you you’d better know you history before you step into the ring. And I am not talking that Hollywood crap.
# Big Dog said on 5 Apr 2008 at 1:21 pm: Indigenous Native American. As a white person, I have indeed gone to other
countries — with passport in hand.
I know many white people who have gone to Mexico without passports. As an U.S. Citizen I have done it myself many times.
Big Dog said: “- Whites indeed are not without blame in
their settlement of the New (to them) World.
INA: First lets get the terms straight. Settlement is not the correct term when you come into someone else’s home, kill with the intent of exterminating all of the home owners, rape, destroy, steal the wealth and make fake laws to call it your own. The correct terms are holocaust, genocide, grand theft, criminals, extermination, Hitler. Over 95% of Native populations were killed and in many places 100%. Read Las Casas. We have to be honest first and foremost. I have noticed that white people use the softest possible terms in describing their actions, settlement, but the harshest terms when describing other people’s actions, ‘illegal aliens”. There was full intent from the beginning to exterminate the Natives and quarantine the remaining Natives with borders and immoral laws. This is why these laws and borders are so repugnant today. But people like yourself are trying to disconnect your actions today from their roots in the past.
BD said: “But remember the Aztecs were a great culture, but
one built in no small part on bloody conquest. The same could be said of the Sioux, Crow and many other Indian tribes - years before Columbus.”
INA: Around the year 1000, 500 years before Columbus, Cucucan a white guy came to Mexico from Europe. He is described as having long flowing yellow hair, blue eyes and pale skin. As I have written about here it does not take much to destabilized a peaceful indigenous culture. So white people visited the Aztecs from Europe 500 years before columbus. 500 years later in 1532 when the European butcher Cortez arrived after Columbus, what he witnessed was a society which was a combination of authoritarian European culture and Indigenous NA culture. The Aztecs had begun doing what the Europeans had done 5000 years earlier by forcing peaceful tribes under their authoritarian control. 500 years is a long time and a culture can be altered a lot in this time if pulled off track. White people are not bad people you have just been forced out of peaceful indigenous systems for 5000 years and into the brutal violent authoritarian system. If Columbus had not come, my believe is that the entire continent would likely fallen under authoritarian control similar to what the Roman empire did in Europe. However, the key is that the peaceful social system was corrupted by an authoritarian influence from Europe. This is all documented with the Mayan calender which is so accurate that it predicted the exact date of Cortez arrival in present day Mexico in 1532.
BD said: The same could be said of the Sioux, Crow and many other Indian tribes - years before Columbus.”
INA: This is just plain wrong. What original source material do you have to support your position. By the time we have records regarding the Sioux, and Crow out west this was 300 to 350 years after Columbus and the violent European’s ways had infected indigenous populations. Even harden racist such as the fellow who wrote the Wizard of oz, who called for the extermination of all Indians, acknowledged in his writings that the nobel Indian had been infected by the white mans ways of hatred, and since there were so few left and they were now full of this hatred they just needed to be completely exterminated. And this is what the story of the Wizard of Oz is all about. The wicked witch of the east is dead (the estern Indians) and now we need to kill the wicked witch of the west (the western Indians). This is all well documented.
In 300 to 350 years the white infection had definitely spread through out the continent. For example we all consider the western Indian culture to be the great horse culture of the west, but their were no horses when Columbus arrived. In fact our prophecies before contact stated that the horse would be the down fall of indigenous culture.
BD: - As for the sign - please support the
statement that, in a country of thousands of jurisdictions,
PWC and Manassas are the “National Capital
of Intolerance”. Hazelton, Pa. gets a ride?
The state of Arizona? The list is large.
INA: Everyday people make judgments about things. The beauty is that free speech puts this decision in the hands of the individuals. Perhaps their should be a top ten list. You could be right maybe PWC is not #1 but # 5 or #10. But the point is the same. We have to be more tolerate and stop throwing stones especially when we live in glass houses.
Indigenous Native American
A Voice of Reason, Peace and Tolerance
Careful Big Dog…being identified as a “buddy” of INA is probably the last thing you’ll want to do. You may have noticed the only “history” book that he’s ever read is Las Casas, which he cites in many of his comments as he spouts his version of history. The fellow is quite mad (and I don’t mean in the “angry” sense). You need only note his sign-off, “A Voice of Reason, Peace and Tolerance,” which he uses after equating, not only all of us on this blog but the vast majority of American citizens, with Hitler and associating us all with holocaust, genocide, grand theft, criminals, extermination.” That’s REALLY reasonable for someone claiming to be someone of peace and tolerance. He’s just plain crazy…and most likely closely associated with that new philosophy depicted on that “sign” in Manassas.
INA,
your racist diatribe is sick, you mention “white guy” several times and speak of mexicans as though they should own the continent. The mexican is an amalgam of many different races.
so if whites raped and pillaged (like just about every race or existence did) then what do you say about all the illegals raping and killing people in PWC? If you are using history to paint a negative picture of white persons then it’s only fair to paint a history of mexicans as rapists and killers due to current events we see on the news right?
get real!
Indigenous Native American -
With all due respect, we will have to
just agree to disagree. I’m not able to follow
your line of reasoning - Googled “Cucucan” and
fear you may have merged a character in a
computer game with your unique understanding
of history.
“He’s just plain crazy”
I bet his parents gave him to much Greta and Azarcon when he was young.
Since when is defending your honor, or that of the people around you an admission of guilt? Taking no action against that sign is as if to say “tread all over me”, because I’m not going to defend myself. Back in school people who wouldn’t defend themselves were considered cowards, and that’s why they were always picked on. Have we all become so afraid of what ‘they’ may think that we take no action? I say anyone or group that makes statements as are on the sign doesn’t get any respect from me, and so I could care less what they may think. Why are we holding them to such a moral level that we don’t want to offend them, yet we will sit and take offense from them? I just don’t remember Americans being so passive. I remember them more as the day after 9-11 when the flags flew, and people were ready and willing to die in honor of their country! Bravery, not cowardice from lawyers is what dealing with that sign would represent.
During the upcoming events to be held in Old Town Manassas, the Help Save Manassas enlistment table should be set-up right in front of this sign!
IndigenousNativeAmerican
The “White Infection”?
You clearly are not a Native American as I have never heard my relatives, or any or any other Native American speak this racist BS that you propagate, If you really are an American Indian and not a Hispanic please tell me your tribal lineage. Mexicans are not true Native Americans, I’ve not seen one in PWC that was not mixed with Spaniard.
I love how the nut proclaims himself to be tolorant…. But seriously that is how the left operates today, they claim to be “tolerant”, yet hate anything that is not a far left wing nut value, and then paints anyone but them as being intolerant.
My mother is Navajo indian, born and raised on the reservation thus it means ..as was I. Never heard it mentioned like that, although we had our fair share of racist types..ticked off that the white man stole the land, etc…However this guy is definitely not native american and his sentiment is not shared among the entire tribe unless he grew up in a box somewhere. I’m positive the rest of the tribes feel the same way. If this guy is native american I want to know the nation he supposedly is a part of.
Josh
We just have to get INA out of the Sci-Fi section of the library, and back to the Reference section! Here’s one for him: Ok INA, you’re absolutely correct! Now what are you going to do about it ??????
Josh,
thank you for pointing that out. Not being a native American Indian I would never express myself as one. But history and my own American Indian friends have told me that the tribes, although united under the Indian Nation, do expressly request that no one would liken their tribe to any other as they do consider themselves, as they are, entirely different in their identity and tradition. In addition, American Indians were very territorial and did not condone nor permit incursions into their territory by any other north american tribe, let alone one from central america. It is exactly that very proud fighting tradition which would have made it impossible for them to share what they now claim is their territory.
And although many American Indians justly feel angry about past injustices, they do not share the disrespect or violent bent of their neighbors to the south.
I wish these people would quit identifying themselves as North American natives and quit spouting their vitriol.
Just news,
you are entirely correct, each nation is exactly that, a nation. I spent 18 years on a reservation and never once heard anything other horrible, maybe it was just the reservation I lived on. We were and still are a fairly peaceful people. although people these days are pretty upset about loosing their internet connection, a problem with billing the satellite company or something..got people really riled up
people can claim they are native american all they want, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery I suppose
Josh
not when it is misused and leaves people with the impression that native American Indians are as uncivilized and spiteful as this fellow. I should think they would be unhappy with people trying to claim your heritage and yet behaving as badly as they do. I have never seen this kind of behavior from my Indian friends.
Say what you will, mean what you say… but if you silly kids keep being casual about taking the initials B.S. in vain (IndigenousNativeAmerican, Karla Homolka, PWConservative - I’m looking directly at you!) then don’t be surprised if those of us who view them somewhat proprietarily choose to vent umbrage at you.
Ha! This sign is great. Maybe there’s some hope left for PWC after all. Even if it is just a spark, a tiny flame of stubborn diversity in the midst of a great suffocating mass of hysterical blandness.
Oh, wait. The sign isn’t in PWC. It’s in the CoM. And that’s a good thing, I suppose. Because you well know, my blustery conservatoid friends, that for all your carefully-parsed statements about The Law (so restrained! so unlike you!), this sign will not be around for long. Some red-faced patriot will make damn sure, come hell or high water, that this thing gets taken down. Even if he has to round up some of his meanest lawyerly golf buddies to get er done. Maybe the CoM can slow him down, but the outcome is inevitable. You know that as well as I do.
Just like you know as well as I do that this whole immigration fiasco has nothing to do with The Law and everything to do with clinging desperately to the status quo. Which in this case has little to do with the actual status quo and everything to do with some fleeting notion of Manassas as Purcellville South. Except your dreams of vast horseless horse farms and pristine upscale town centers were spoiled by all them gibbering immigrants with their seedy storefronts and their crazy Madonna statues RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LAWN. So now Loudoun is battling it out with Fairfax to be the richest county in the nation, and PWC is falling behind–getting a bad reputation, if you know what I mean. Leesburg has premium outlets, and Potomac Mills has gangs of Spanish teenagers. It’s enough to make a person do something downright unethical, like vote Republican.
But hell. You gotta do what you gotta do to keep them property values high.
So, shootist, are you the one who left that Molotov Cocktail by the sign for a photo op? Just wondering because it sounds like you’re setting it up for another one…photo op, that is.
IndigenousNativeAmerican said on 6 Apr 2008 at 12:50 am:
Mr. Big Dog you’re my kind of guy.
COWA GOOPA!
COWA BUNGA too!
I thought that the south/central americans first contact with europeans was with the spanish. I thought that the first exposure they had to small pox, syphillus, and the like, came from the spanish. Didn’t the Cinco de Mayo holiday occur b/c of a battle between France and Spain in Puebla, Mexico? Wasn’t CA a Spanish territory long before a white man entered? Did the Spanish live peaceably with the native americans? No. So why all the blame against the white man? Why do all the diseases of the time belong solely to the white man? Hey the entire reason Spanish is spoken in Mexico, Central America, and South America, is because the Spanish colonized those areas. They were in the Americas long before anyone established Jamestown. Blame the Europeans if you will for colonization, but don’t lay it all at the door of the “white man” alone. There were plenty of “brown men” complicit as well.
ateacher - That’s just strange!
How could California be “a Spanish territory long before a white man entered?”
Perhaps you should share your definition of “white man”.
She is just repeating what the Hispanics are calling themselves, Bob S. Those in the debate look upon themselves as the “brown” race, and claim that is why we are all racist.
Boy you guys are funny!!! I had a good laugh reading the above. If you readlly read what I have said there is no hate. But we must learn to speak the truth. If you take the time to read what I have written at:
http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/mexicans-without-borders-defaces-manassas-again/
the vast majority of your statements above are debunked. There are a few remaining open issues but I don’t have time to address them now. For example someone brought up Cucucan. I will provide references for this at:
http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/03/25/mexicans-without-borders-defaces-manassas-again/
It is documented in the Myan calander which has great precision.
Another point. Ateacher. For a teacher you should know that Spanish are white people and Europeans. This is our modern definition of white. However, this all really has nothing to do with race. Europe just happened to be happened to be overrun with authoritarian rule which it then exported to the Americas. The bigger issue is the authoritarian rule worldview vs the Indigenous Way.
Everyone please read what I am saying and do not come from fear and what you think I am saying.
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Paradigm Blindness Rots the Mind