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NLS Tries Thirty Degrees Of Separation, And Fails

By Greg L | 19 April 2008 | 51st HOD District, Prince William County | 19 Comments

We had lawyers, they had lawyers, and our lawyers beat the snot out of theirs.  Instead of slinking off in well deserved embarrassment as they should, the next chapter of the battle by the losers is to smear the victors as part of a “hate group”, and some are dumb enough to fall for this, or perhaps desperate enough to try to use it for leverage in the 11th District nomination fight among Democrats.  I guess bothering to get the story straight isn’t that important if you can rail on in support of Leslie “the loser” Byrne, whose struggling candidacy apparently demands an ever-more screeching level of hyperbole in order to remain somewhat viable.  Slamming Paul Nichols in the process makes this attack even more bizarre.

If little of this makes any sense, I can certainly understand.  So let’s walk through this crazy story.

Help Save Manassas got a briefing by Mike Hethmon of the Immigration Reform Law Institute about federal immigration law and opportunities for local legislation in one if its first meetings, after being formed in April of 2007.  It was an eye opener.  There are more potential and dire pitfalls than most could possibly imagine when crafting local legislative approaches to dealing with the illegal alien problem, and it was clear from this briefing that caution and competence are absolutely essential. No one at that meeting had any previous experience with the complicated legal landscape of federal immigration law, and that education proved to be awfully valuable in the debate that followed.

When it came time to start talking about a legislative initiative to overturn the policies of the Prince William County Police Department which prevented officers from even asking suspected illegal aliens about their legal status except in some circumstances, it wasn’t only reasonable to get these constitutional lawyers involved, it was clearly the only responsible choice.  We’re not the only folks who have tried to address this issue at the local level, and those that didn’t get solid legal advice right from the beginning ended up with lots of problems in the end, as we’ve seen too often.   It’s not enough to intend to do things right.  If you don’t do things right, your effort to make your community better is going to result in that community getting slapped with lawsuits from every civil rights legal organization.   You must get it right, and get it right the first time.

That has proven to be the right choice.  As soon as the Rule of Law Resolution was adopted, the threats of legal action came hot and heavy.  Even before the resolution came into full effect, the Puerto Rican Legal Defense and Education Fund cobbled together a bunch of folks — including a bunch of illegal aliens — who they claimed were fearful of what actual enforcement of immigration laws might mean, and filed a lawsuit against Prince William County.  That lawsuit lasted only a couple of weeks before being dismissed in a pre-trial motion.  The threats continue, but no lawsuit has been filed, despite an active effort by Mexicans Without Borders to recruit potential plaintiffs.  The reason for all this is pretty clear:  there’s simply no legal basis to claim that the Rule of Law Resolution violates anyone’s rights.

A few months ago, apparently frustrated that citizens in Prince William County, working with their elected officials and with the assistance of some top-notch legal experts, the illegal alien lobby decided to take a new tack.  They lobbied the Southern Poverty Law Center, which is not southern, doesn’t deal with poverty, and rarely engages in any sort of legal action, to declare that the Federation for American Immigration Reform a “hate group”.  FAIR has been around for about thirty years, and the SPLC had never seemed to have a problem with them before. Suddenly they do, and dig up some decades-old connection between FAIR and an eccentric named John Tanton who donated to FAIR, along with other organizations such as the Mayo Clinic.  On that basis, the SPLC declares that FAIR is a “hate group”, and since the Immigration Reform Law Institute was set up with the assistance of FAIR, now IRLI is a “hate group” as well.  Since IRLI gave legal advice in support of the Rule of Law Resolution, somehow the Rule of Law Resolution itself sports a pitchfork, horns, and a tail.

It’s an interesting way to try to win back a legal battle that was lost.  If you can’t win in the courts, go ahead and brand someone connected in even a hugely tangential way as a “hate group” in order to make a legislative initiative carefully crafted to comply with federal law look like something irresponsible.  I would assume that these folks wouldn’t have been placated had legal advice been provided by the firm of Dewey, Cheatem and Howe and required that illegal aliens parade around in pink underwear and sing “I’ve got a lovely bunch of coconuts” as an alternative, which certainly would have violated civil rights, even if it would have been amusing.  The lawsuit then would have been swift, and successful.

Based on this ridiculous argument, NLS is trying to attack Delegate Paul Nichols of all people, someone who never had a role at all in the Rule of Law Resolution, not because he has ever actually disagreed with any of the legislation Nichols proposed, but because he has violated the NLS rule that thou shalt not support an unauthorized candidate in a Democratic primary battle.  How’s that for tenuous connections?  While I’ve no love whatsoever for “Boss” Connolly, and think he’s a disaster for Fairfax County, this is utterly ridiculous.  If this is what the Leslie Byrne campaign has to offer the voters of the 11th Congressional District, they should pass.

Keith Fimian should have a field day with this garbage.



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19 Comments

  1. Harry C from Manassas said on 19 Apr 2008 at 10:52 pm:
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    If the SPLC made a formal declaration that FAIR is a “hate group” based on such specious evidence, I think it only appropriate that FAIR sue them for libel.

  2. I hate borders said on 19 Apr 2008 at 11:11 pm:
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    you suck!

  3. sandman said on 20 Apr 2008 at 12:32 am:
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    If you look at the SPLC website, they have declared a lot of groups
    to be “hate groups”. Primarily, anyone they disagree with.
    Gun Owners of America? I think NOT!

  4. Not4Nothing said on 20 Apr 2008 at 5:40 am:
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    First of all, that “eccentric named John Tanton ” is an old line environmentalist who believes that overpopulation in the US, caused mainly by massive immigration both legal and illegal, is a major threat to the environment here. The “inconvenient fact” is that he is absolutely correct.

    I always love it when the open borders crowd start screaming xenophobe, racist, hate group, etc. It means that they know they don’t have the facts on their side. The more people hear the facts, the less they like the idea of massive immigration. We are not talking about reasonable numbers here. We’re talking millions a year.

  5. Ron said on 20 Apr 2008 at 8:02 am:
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    Ben Tribbett has a bigger connection with pedophilia than you do with hatred! (I mean, if Ben wants to be judged by the same standards he uses on others.)

    With all his complaining, isn’t it funny that Ben and his ilk never actually make a positive statement as to what laws, if any, should be on the books and/or enforced. I think that anyone who is critical of the PWC “Rule of Law” Resolution should do so or keep quiet.

    As far as “environmentalists” are concerned, isn’t it also funny that today’s greenie whack jobs are protesting against border fences on environmental grounds?

  6. Freedom said on 20 Apr 2008 at 8:48 am:
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    Oh my Ron, any issue they don’t support will be “anti-environment,” and and if enacted, will ultimately kill the planet.

  7. Freedom said on 20 Apr 2008 at 10:45 am:
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    Having just reviewed the NLS piece, it brought to my mind yet again that Paul Nichols deserves a lot more credit for his first session in the HOD than he has received. He introduced a number of bills designed to help in the illegal alien problem. It is unfortunate his is initiatives were not allowed to go forward, presumably because he was a newbie and hadn’t yet “paid his dues.” What a shame!

    Thanks, Paul, we appreciate your efforts…

  8. Citizen 12 said on 20 Apr 2008 at 11:39 am:
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    As a side note, here is Cory Stewart on last week’s NPR radio intervew along with immigration and human rights lawyer Elinor Tesfamarian.

    Overcrowded Jails Follow Immigration Crackdown

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89643842

  9. R said on 20 Apr 2008 at 11:49 am:
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    Thanks for this post, Greg. I’m a moderate Republican and generally enjoy taking a peek at all the blogs across the political spectrum, but I’ve about had it with NLS. Don’t think I’ll be viewing that page anymore. Keep up the good fight.

  10. Johnson said on 20 Apr 2008 at 12:03 pm:
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    Greg, accept the fact that they went right to “hate group” as a compliment. Desperation is a stinky cologne. Once again, logic overcomes passion. If they can’t win the fight, they start the name-calling.

    “Big ones, small ones, some as big as your head…”

  11. Spank That Donkey said on 20 Apr 2008 at 3:04 pm:
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    The Democrat/ics always attack the most effective opponents, ala the Clinton attack machine.

    Many Kudos for you Sir!

  12. charles said on 20 Apr 2008 at 7:02 pm:
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    Suddenly they do, and dig up some decades-old connection between FAIR and an eccentric named John Tanton who donated to FAIR, along with other organizations such as the Mayo Clinic. On that basis, the SPLC declares that FAIR is a “hate group”, and since the Immigration Reform Law Institute was set up with the assistance of FAIR, now IRLI is a “hate group” as well. Since IRLI gave legal advice in support of the Rule of Law Resolution, somehow the Rule of Law Resolution itself sports a pitchfork, horns, and a tail.

    Yea, that guilt-by-association stuff is intellectually vapid, deceitful, and a tool used by those who have no real arguments.

    But you knew that :-)

  13. Benton said on 20 Apr 2008 at 7:27 pm:
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    Attacking NLS is preeetttyyy transparent. Yawn.

  14. Joe Budzinski said on 20 Apr 2008 at 7:58 pm:
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    This is a great post, Greg, thanks for all the background information.

  15. Anonguy said on 20 Apr 2008 at 8:49 pm:
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    Glad to see the Charles is still the insipid little hobbitt he’s always been. Still bitter about your boy Gill getting his clock cleaned? Happy that you managed to get a bunch of hysterical housewives to form a hate-Greg blog? Which anonymous name do you post under, at the anti site, Charles?

  16. Freedom said on 20 Apr 2008 at 9:03 pm:
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    Because of his “guilt by association” speech, seems to me that Charles must be a Barack Obama supporter. Is that correct?

  17. Not4Nothing said on 20 Apr 2008 at 9:04 pm:
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    “As far as “environmentalists” are concerned, isn’t it also funny that today’s greenie whack jobs are protesting against border fences on environmental grounds?”

    Absolutely. Anybody who has seen the acres of human trash left at the border would have to agree that it is more detrimental to the environment than a fence would be.

  18. choctaws said on 20 Apr 2008 at 11:17 pm:
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    Check the pedofile list for houses less than a mile from Obamas house.

    Then move there, and increase the number by one

  19. AWCheney said on 20 Apr 2008 at 11:52 pm:
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    For some, ignorance knows no bounds…isn’t that right, choctaws? If you ever have a legitimate point to make, by all means join the commentary.

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