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WashPo Covers The Positive Effects Of The Rule Of Law Resolution

By Greg L | 21 April 2008 | Prince William County | 75 Comments

Is the Rule of Law Resolution making a positive difference in Prince William County? Two citizens in Prince William County weigh in with the Washington Post with a decidedly affirmative answer.

When Pannell looks out her window at the house next to her mother’s, she said she sees the beginnings.

Before the house was foreclosed on in the summer, Pannell said, about 20 single men lived there, one of whom she said she saw urinate on the front lawn one Saturday afternoon three years ago as her daughter and stepdaughter played across the street.

Recently, a single man moved in. “An insurance agent,” Pannell said approvingly. She and Kipp hope teachers and firefighters will follow.

“This was not an election-year gimmick. . . . This was us demanding,” Kipp said. “You have to start small. And we knew we could do something here.”

And that something has yielded dramatic and positive results. One year ago this was a neighborhood in clear distress. Just a few months after the Rule of Law Resolution went into full effect, the community has seen the quality of life improve and even new residents move into houses that were previously overcrowded. Gang activity is down. Residential sales in March 2008 are up 65% over sales in March 2007, and are even higher than sales in March 2006. There’s more parking, and less trash. Demand for ESOL programs in county schools are down, while ESOL demands in neighboring jurisdictions are up. It’s the case of one neighborhood among many that have been rescued because citizens decided to engage in the legislative process.

And that makes all the difference.

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75 Comments

  1. Gainesville Resident said on 21 Apr 2008 at 3:54 am:
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    Now how did that article slip by the editors? My guess is the primary edit staff was off on Sunday and somebody (needle in a haystack at the Post) without an anti-PWC agenda let that article in. I’m sure they will be fired Monday…

  2. me-n-u said on 21 Apr 2008 at 6:13 am:
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    Great article.

  3. choctaws said on 21 Apr 2008 at 6:33 am:
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    Let us know in 5 years when PWC govt files for bankruptcy

  4. manassascityresident said on 21 Apr 2008 at 6:39 am:
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    This may be wishful thinking…..perhaps the MJM will take note of this article and follow suit? Nahhhh, probably not.

  5. Anonymous said on 21 Apr 2008 at 6:59 am:
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    choctaws,

    Why, you want to turn it into a reservation, and then build casinos? Great family environment!

  6. park'd said on 21 Apr 2008 at 8:25 am:
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    Anon 6:59: Mayor Jones and the city council cronies have already tried that and failed. IMO it is why they have run the city into the ground. Destroy the city so bad that the only way out will be to let the casino come into town and rescue us….

  7. Anonymous said on 21 Apr 2008 at 9:38 am:
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    I know for a fact that much of the Westgate clean up was the result of the hard work done by the ladies rather than any resolution. The economy also changed. I don’t think anything should detract from the vigilance shown by Chris, Allison or Patty.

    Bad neighbors are bad neighbors. With some gentle (and sometimes not so gentle ) nudging from the Westgate women, things spruced up quite a bit. Thanks ladies.

    It is going to be a grassy summer. I have no idea how the county will keep up with all the mowing. I also am concerned about who is going to buy up all these houses. What we don’t need is street after street of investor housing. Absentee landlordism just puts us right back where we started.

  8. CW of PWC said on 21 Apr 2008 at 9:44 am:
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    Obviously, you guys didn’t see the critical article on Corey Stewart this weekend(see attached) in the Post.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/19/AR2008041900943.html

  9. Dolph said on 21 Apr 2008 at 9:51 am:
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    Anonymous said on 21 Apr 2008 at 9:38 am:
    was me, Dolph.

  10. PWCHomeowner said on 21 Apr 2008 at 10:11 am:
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    The people who live here should buy up the properties. Anyone want to start an investment club. We can clean up our streets and make money at the same time

  11. AWCheney said on 21 Apr 2008 at 10:19 am:
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    That’s actually an excellent idea PWCHomeowner. If we didn’t have two kids in expensive colleges right now, I’d jump on that!

  12. choctaws said on 21 Apr 2008 at 10:24 am:
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    anon,
    I dont want reservations. I just want to send all the illegal aliens, all 290 million of them, back where they came from.

    Maybe they can pay the reparations doe what they did to my people.

    This plan gets rid of ll the brown folks too.

    So the bvbl community gets what it wants.

    When you resettle back in Europe, tell me about the illegal Muslim immigrants camped out at the france chunnel end.

  13. floodguy said on 21 Apr 2008 at 10:27 am:
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    The article did not say anything about immigrant families. It was all about single immigant single men overcrowding homes and foreclosures in a single-family dwelling community. Yet this person can makes an unfounded accusations to contribute to this article.

    “The resolution was motivated by people who, as we have said all along, would like to see Prince William County much less diverse,” said Nancy Lyall of the advocacy group Mexicans Without Borders. “It’s shocking to me and many people that there are people in this community that would rather live next to a vacant house than next to a house with an immigrant family. That is a perfect example of the racism in this county.”

    This is baseless and should not have even entered into the article.

  14. Advocator said on 21 Apr 2008 at 10:41 am:
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    PWCHomeowner:

    I’ve been advocating doing that for quite some time and believe the next couple of months would be the right time to buy.

    Starting an “investment club” for that purpose might not be that good of an idea, though. You’d need to form a partnership, with by-laws, etc., and somebody is always going to be discontented with the way the rest of the “club” is going. I’d advise people to do it on their own.

  15. Freedom said on 21 Apr 2008 at 10:52 am:
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    Be careful when you decide to buy these homes…it is my understanding that before leaving, some people are stripping the copper wiring and plumbing out of the homes due to the value of copper these days.

    It would be a shame to buy what you thought to be a good investment and then find that you needed to rewire and replumb…:(

  16. AWCheney said on 21 Apr 2008 at 10:55 am:
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    Advocator, people form “investment clubs” specifically because they don’t have enough to invest “on their own.” I imagine that part of the group investment would also be an investment manager, at least a professional of some kind, to oversee and moniter the investment(s), particularly when you’re talking about property.

  17. Dolph said on 21 Apr 2008 at 10:56 am:
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    Actually I did see both articles. I don’t see the immigration issue as a binary issue. No Good/Bad only for me. Both articles were good. It is entirely possible to support what Chris and Allison (and Patty who was not featured in the article but has put much effort into neighborhood improvement) are doing in their neighborhood and at the same time not fully support the resolution.

    When we stop seeing the immigration issue in terms of ‘encampments’ perhaps we can actually work on improving our area.

    There is only so much money to go around. We have to spend it wisely. I choose not to have it spent on playing ‘cops and illegals.’ I would rather see money spent on funding schools and keeping people who deserve jail, in jail.

  18. monticup said on 21 Apr 2008 at 11:06 am:
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    floodguy: I certainly don’t want to live next door to an illegal alien family whether it’s illegal parents with anchor children or a houseful of single men. Their definition of family depends on the circumstances at the moment. Nancy Lyall can call me whatever she wants.

  19. choctaws said on 21 Apr 2008 at 11:09 am:
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    floodguy, we only have the word of the two ladies in the article.
    Where are the pictures of these single men?

    Show me eveidence.

    I know racists lie. period.

  20. PWCHomeowner said on 21 Apr 2008 at 11:21 am:
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    Regarding the investment club, it could be done as a group to pool money, but it can also be a collection of individuals, who share information, advice, and can work together to transform neighborhoods one street at at a time.

  21. Gainesville Resident said on 21 Apr 2008 at 11:27 am:
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    Ha, choctaws claims there are no such things as flop houses of illegals in these communities!!! At least stick to your stupid philosphical arguments and don’t try to dispute facts that all of us see on a daily basis in PWC. You aren’t going to convince me that my eyes are lying to me when I see a house crammed with 20+ spanish speaking men.

  22. Advocator said on 21 Apr 2008 at 11:28 am:
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    Dolph: You say, “I would rather see money spent on funding schools and keeping people who deserve jail, in jail.”

    You’re wasting your money on schools and jails if they’re overcrowded with people and kids who aren’t supposed to be in this country in the first place. If you use tax money to, as you call it, play “cops and illegals,” you’re saving the community money by lowering the population of people who should not be here.

  23. Advocator said on 21 Apr 2008 at 11:37 am:
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    PWCHomeowner:

    You said, “a collection of individuals, who share information, advice, and can work together to transform neighborhoods one street at at a time.”

    Sounds like a possible follow-on purpose for Help Save Manassas.

  24. AWCheney said on 21 Apr 2008 at 11:49 am:
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    “Ha, choctaws claims there are no such things as flop houses of illegals in these communities!!!”

    Probably because he lives in one, Gainesville Resident, and it would make him rather uncomfortable to have that get around. I seriously doubt that he has any affiliation with an American Indian tribe…they have far more pride.

  25. Anonymous said on 21 Apr 2008 at 11:50 am:
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    choctaws said on 21 Apr 2008 at 10:24 am:
    anon,
    I dont want reservations. I just want to send all the illegal aliens, all 290 million of them, back where they came from.

    Looks like INA has morphed into lockjaw chocktaw. UGHHHHH!!!!!

  26. Anonymous said on 21 Apr 2008 at 11:54 am:
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    Freedom said on 21 Apr 2008 at 10:52 am:
    Be careful when you decide to buy these homes…it is my understanding that before leaving, some people are stripping the copper wiring and plumbing out of the homes due to the value of copper these days.

    They have also stolen the light fixtures, appliances, curtains (and rods), window blinds and just about anything that wasn’t tied down. One house I know of was even stripped of the front door before the Hispanics moved out in the middle of the night.

  27. Anonymous said on 21 Apr 2008 at 11:57 am:
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    choctaws said on 21 Apr 2008 at 11:09 am:
    floodguy, we only have the word of the two ladies in the article.
    Where are the pictures of these single men?

    hmmmmmmm

  28. Greg L said on 21 Apr 2008 at 12:02 pm:
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    It’ a little difficult to get pictures of people who are no longer there.

    As far as whether there are other people who believe the Rule of Law Resolution has improved their communities, I’d suggest checking out this thread.

  29. floodguy said on 21 Apr 2008 at 12:10 pm:
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    choctaw, why are those who want the illegal activity discontinued, defined as being racists?

    Before this housing boom (pre 2000) was their a standing racial problem with whites and Hispanics in PWC and Manassas? What about the other minorities in PWC and Manassas, does there also exist racist tensions and problems the whites too?

    I think that the easiest reply to make if you are for the opposition, is to quickly call the pro-reform supporters racists. Its easy and you can get away with it, but its also symbolic of your weakness and a position which has no sound reasoning behind it.

    Even the WaPo agrees, the results of the migrant plight has 3 factors: housing collapse and falliing economy, enactment of the resolution, and foreclosure. Personally, the resolution was a bit harsh and too early, as I believe the housing crisis was forcing the migrants out. Those w/o work or who have a hard time following the law and staying out of trouble, as far as I’m concerned, are the target of the resolution.

    I think what we will soon see, is an increase in reform actions which will repeatedly “shake the tree of its loose fruit.” After the last shaking, the remaining migrants who are able to stay, who are working, have families here, have no crime record, pay taxes, etc., we will assume, have some sort of documents or legal standing to stay. Personally I want those folks to have a road to citizenship ASAP. The rest need to get back in line behind the other Latinos waiting patiently as they respect the entry laws of this nation.

    I certainly hope illegals quickly realize that getting back in-line soon will be their best strategy to make money and/or to become U.S. citizens if they choose. Going the legal route will make passage safer, work conditions fairer, wages more in-line, and community services more readily available like they deserve.

    The U.S. economy, whenever it stands to make a rebound, will most certainly need Central American migrant workers. I hope by then for the sake of this nation and the migrant workers, immigration reform is enacted. Harsh or not, the resolution by PWC does push the matter forward to the attention of the greater public and towards Congress to tackle once and for all. And the sooner immigration reform is enact, the better off everyone will be.

    Upholding complacency isn’t the reason for open borders and wanting the end of complacent immigration enforcement isn’t being racist.

  30. PWCHomeowner said on 21 Apr 2008 at 12:21 pm:
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    It actually is possible to get pictures into the past, look at the PWC GIS mapper, the aerial photography was taken in 2006, much of it during the middle of the afternoon. You can zoom in and see 10-12 cars parked in front of, behind etc., many a house. Drive by them today and voila your comparison. I tried this on a few houses on my street, and the evidence of over-crowding and its subsequent abatement is quite clear. Many of the worst offenders have abandoned.

    Why? thats up for debate, that it has happened is not.

  31. Gainesville Resident said on 21 Apr 2008 at 12:42 pm:
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    PWCHomeowner, don’t you realize facts don’t matter to the illegal immigration supporters. As those pictures you refer to either:

    1) Have been photoshopped by racist rednecks
    2) Just show hardworking immigrant families who are car enthusiests that collect vintage white vans
    3) The cars aren’t the immigrants at all but instead they are the angry racist redneck mobs that parked in front of their houses so they can burn them down and stab pitchforks into the air

  32. Rob Smalls - Part-Time Commenter, Full Time American said on 21 Apr 2008 at 12:46 pm:
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    Many congrats to Alison and Chris, as well as the WaPo for running this story. Keep it up ladies. Let’s have coffee again soon.

  33. monticup said on 21 Apr 2008 at 12:50 pm:
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    floodguy: The worst thing for the US to do is to bring in unskilled, uneducated and illiterate workers. They are the most inefficient unit of any economy. They are a drag on the economy. It’s insanity to import poverty. Business are simply going to have to pay a decent wage for the workers they need instead of going cheap (illegal aliens) and passing the cost on to taxpayers. Businesses are going to have to think in terms of the long run, not short term profit.

  34. park'd said on 21 Apr 2008 at 1:01 pm:
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    It’s not like any of us ever see the cost savings from illegal labor anyway. This notion that only hiring Americans and paying a living wage will increase the cost of things is poppycock. It will and should reduce the profits that the owners and executives are hoarding for themselves at the expense of their workers and the community.

  35. monticup said on 21 Apr 2008 at 1:29 pm:
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    park’d: You’re right, it’s poppycock. It’s a scare tactic. Ooohh, lettuce is going to go up in price. Fine. How much will we be saving when we don’t have to pay for ER care, education costs, law enforcement and prison costs and the general cleaning up we have to do after the illegal aliens? Plus, wages will stay in the US, not sent by wire to Mexico, etc.

  36. Emma said on 21 Apr 2008 at 2:06 pm:
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    That was a surprisingly balanced article, but the writer still managed to take a potshot at the women by choosing what was probably the worst picture available–I question whether the women were even aware of the photographer when that shot was taken. Probably had to dig through the entire roll of film to find the angriest-looking shot to try to undermine the women in some way.

  37. Advocator said on 21 Apr 2008 at 2:30 pm:
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    Emma: You should see them when they’re really, really pissed off. : )

  38. Anonymous said on 21 Apr 2008 at 2:36 pm:
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    PWCHomeowner said on 21 Apr 2008 at 12:21 pm:
    It actually is possible to get pictures into the past, look at the PWC GIS mapper, the aerial photography was taken in 2006, much of it during the middle of the afternoon. You can zoom in and see 10-12 cars parked in front of, behind etc., many a house. Drive by them today and voila your comparison. I tried this on a few houses on my street, and the evidence of over-crowding and its subsequent abatement is quite clear. Many of the worst offenders have abandoned.

    Maybe the worst offenders have left but there are still enough of them to be concerned about. There is a house on Strasburg St. just over the Westgate side of Sudley that this morning had 7 cars in the driveway that takes up half of the front of the house and a couple more parked on the street in front of it. There is another McMansion on Greenview lane in Sudley that has at least 4 or 5 cars parked at the house and more arrive at various times of night and day. This place is also licensed to operate a beauty shop and is owned by a Latino.

  39. Emma said on 21 Apr 2008 at 3:00 pm:
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    Advocator said on 21 Apr 2008 at 2:30 pm:
    Emma: You should see them when they’re really, really pissed off. : )

    Ouch!

  40. Johnson said on 21 Apr 2008 at 3:36 pm:
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    Anon-good call on Choctaw. I’m so sick of the “racist!” war cry from the illegal alien apologists. Use reason or begone!

  41. Anonymous said on 21 Apr 2008 at 4:04 pm:
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    Emma,

    You sound like you know these ladies and that they are light years more attractive than their pictures in the WaPo.

  42. Emma said on 21 Apr 2008 at 4:42 pm:
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    No, I don’t know them at all. Just that, IMHO, whenever the Post publishes something counter to their usual bias, the pictures are rarely flattering.

  43. MdMan said on 21 Apr 2008 at 5:21 pm:
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    In PWC, at least, the illegals fought the law and the law won.

    Congratulations and thank you to the citizens who sacrificed their time and were steadfast in their commitment to make their community a cleaner and safer place. The PWC politicians who listened to the citizens are also to be commended. By all accounts, the problem was real and the resolution is a success!

    With this succesful format in place, it is only a matter of time before we get the rest of the local jurisdictions, including Montgomery, on the same side of the law. As a nation we can’t allow illegal immigration to fester any longer.

  44. /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award) said on 21 Apr 2008 at 5:28 pm:
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    From an editorial:
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/uc/20080418/cm_uc_crlchx/op_205853;_ylt=AjiK3Mhez0dqIZLrB3pP1mb9wxIF

    The pope is not suggesting that the United States does not have a right to set its own immigration policies — but he is calling for those policies to be implemented in a way that respects the dignity of all human beings. And what is happening in many communities across America today clearly violates this Christian principle.

    In Prince William Country, Virginia, for example, policies enacted by the board of supervisors to direct police to question anyone suspected of being in the country illegally and jail them if they cannot prove, on the spot, that they are legal residents have led to widespread fear among Hispanics and others.

    In recent testimony to the Virginia State Advisory Committee of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, which I chair, a Prince William attorney, Lisa Johnson-Firth, described the experiences of her law partner, who is from Eritrea: “She’s been pulled over in the last two months three times by Prince William County policy officers and Manassas police officers for apparently no lawfully-stated reasons that either of us as lawyers could ascertain.”

    Johnson-Firth went on to detail other incidents involving Hispanics. In one, a Latino male — a lawful, permanent U.S. resident — was harassed by police for 30 minutes at a local convenience store; another legal resident, who was a passenger in a car, was ordered out of the vehicle, searched, and handcuffed and held for over two hours until his immigration status could be verified. Johnson-Firth testified she knew of numerous other incidents, some involving U.S. citizens, who described being routinely stopped for questioning by police when going about their normal business, simply on the basis of appearance or accent.

    Nothing, including the effort to control illegal immigration, justifies this kind of harassment and intimidation. And the pope is merely reminding all Americans, Catholic and non-Catholic, that we should heed “the better angels of our nature,” as our greatest president, Abraham Lincoln, once invoked.

    Whether we are citizen or non-citizen, American or foreign-born, legal or illegal immigrant, we are all God’s children. And it is our moral duty to treat each other as such.

    How come I have not read or heard about these allegations presented by Linda Chavez? I do not consider myself living in a hole when it comes to news. She doesn’t cite references or times/dates in the editorial.

    # Emma said on 21 Apr 2008 at 2:06 pm:

    That was a surprisingly balanced article, but the writer still managed to take a potshot at the women by choosing what was probably the worst picture available–I question whether the women were even aware of the photographer when that shot was taken. Probably had to dig through the entire roll of film to find the angriest-looking shot to try to undermine the women in some way.

    I agree. I have sat with these two women for more than 2 hours one Saturday morning and they are MUCH prettier than this picture shows!! I can’t say much for Rob Smalls though :) J/K (Just Kidding)!!!

  45. Patty said on 21 Apr 2008 at 5:41 pm:
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    /\/\3|)iç 64 (Winner of the BVBL 40k and 50k post award),

    Linda Chavez is still mad that she got caught employing an illegal alien.

  46. Patty said on 21 Apr 2008 at 5:44 pm:
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    MdMan,

    I hope things get better in Montgomery County. Don’t give up and don’t get discouraged.

  47. legal2 said on 21 Apr 2008 at 5:53 pm:
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    Medic, people are spinning the Pope’s words to suit them, but until he literally states that the US is to accept all illegal aliens and grant amnesty, my take is that he wants people treated in a humane way. PWC is. Illegals are not rounded up as the anti’s wanted us to believe. ICE is stepping up efforts with the extra load in jail as well as raiding suspect companies that hire illegals. PWC has encouraged the Feds to get the job done (as so many anti’s wanted, but now regret). We can love our bretheren and help them in charity back to their beloved homelands, so they can apply in an orderly and lawful manner, which should ease their consciences and reduce their stress.

  48. legal2 said on 21 Apr 2008 at 5:57 pm:
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    This is probably a good time to re-introduce Ron Maxwell’s wonderful speech on this topic to those who weren’t able to hear him deliver it last year at Jackson Miller’s kickoff campaign: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ronald-maxwell/the-promise-of-home_b_49069.html

  49. Anonymous said on 21 Apr 2008 at 6:05 pm:
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    The Washington Post, Charlie ” I’m always right and can do no wrong” Deane and is minions like to make Corey Stewart to be the bad guy. But if King Deane would just keep his mouth shut and do his job, this would be no big deal and it makes Prince William a better place to live.

  50. Loudoun said on 21 Apr 2008 at 6:31 pm:
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    Thank you, Medic! I would have to agree that the Washington Post picked the worst photograph ever taken of me to put in their paper. The photographer took hundreds of photos - and this photo is extremely unflattering. Chris is actually very pretty.

    Thanks, Dolph, for those kinds words. We have tried very hard to improve Westgate, and especially Lomond Drive, the main drag. We still have follow up work to do - but it is better.

    Rob and Medic, let’s do coffee as soon as Chris can make the time.

    Thanks, Advocator!

  51. monticup said on 21 Apr 2008 at 6:51 pm:
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    Medic: Those are made-up stories. I see illegal aliens all the time without cops even looking at them.

  52. Emma said on 21 Apr 2008 at 7:15 pm:
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    Loudoun, you are to be commended for your courageous stand. It’s going to be the citizens who are going to win this one–we want to preserve our way of life and won’t stand for being pushed around and called names. You have to love a community where the editorial staff of the local newspaper regularly calls community members racists and nativists.

    And, yes, I am very sure that there must have been a lot of very pretty shots of you and Chris, but somehow the Post found the one that conveyed the wrong impression, of course.

    Congratulations, and keep up the good fight.

  53. legal2 said on 21 Apr 2008 at 7:20 pm:
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    With all the outpouring of support shown here, be sure to contact ChairmanStewart and the BoardMembers via phone and emails if you cannot attend tomorrow’s meeting @ 2pm, and thank them for theResolution, and ask their continued support in the form of $$ in the budget they are finalizing.

  54. Emma said on 21 Apr 2008 at 7:28 pm:
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    Living in the City of Manassas, I’m not sure a letter from me to the Chairman would carry much weight, but I am inspired to get off my butt and write to the City Council. I would love to see that !@#$$ hate-filled wall come down once and for all.

  55. legal2 said on 21 Apr 2008 at 7:41 pm:
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    Emma, Just do it! Everyone needs to be heard wherever they are! :-)

  56. manassascityresident said on 21 Apr 2008 at 7:52 pm:
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    Emma said on 21 Apr 2008 at 7:28 pm:
    “Living in the City of Manassas, I’m not sure a letter from me to the Chairman would carry much weight, but I am inspired to get off my butt and write to the City Council. I would love to see that !@#$$ hate-filled wall come down once and for all.”

    Emma - I live in the city as well, but that didn’t stop me from writing to Chairman Stewart a couple of days ago. It is important, because whatever PWC does, definitely affects everyone living in surrounding areas. Please do write to him and thank him for standing up for what is right.

  57. Emma said on 21 Apr 2008 at 8:02 pm:
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    OK, I’m convinced :)

  58. Cherokeepride said on 21 Apr 2008 at 9:20 pm:
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    Choctaws,
    If you are indeed a Choctaw, then you should understand that unchecked hoards of invaders can threaten, and ultimately cause the downfall of a nation.

  59. choctaws said on 21 Apr 2008 at 10:29 pm:
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    Chereo,

    I do understand what happens when an invading force robs you of your birthright.
    I have a little tear dripping from my eye.

    I have more respect for racists than for folks trying to deny they are racists.

    Twp places its legal to be racists…. Who you marry, and the voting booth.

    Thats human nature. I will not condemn racism, I might regret it, but its a force to be reckoned like hurricanes and global warming.

  60. AWCheney said on 22 Apr 2008 at 12:01 am:
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    Cherokeepride, I firmly believe that we have a number of illegal aliens, who may or may not be from South American Indian tribes (I’m inclined to believe that they are wannabes), who are here supposedly preaching peace but are, in fact, attempting to foment revolution, advocating the “deportation” of white Americans so that they, the South American “Indians,” can take over their birthright. I haven’t seen a lot of interest in the rights of the North American Indian displayed in their rhetoric…but I have seen them claim that the North American Indian does not belong here either. Supposedly, they are Asians and also in the way. This seems to be the new theory being postulated by the extremist leadership of these illegal aliens to justify the lands of, not only the Western United States, but the entire country (”from sea to shining sea”) belonging to those from south of the border. The rest of the illegal aliens can leave right along with all the other people born in this country, regardless of race…unless they are “brown” (their word, which is peculiar in itself, because the Hispanics are listed in public records as “white”). If any of us would call them “brown” we’d be called racists.

    The Canadian Indian Tribes, as well as Canadians in general, should also keep in mind that the “Turtle Island” which those South and Central Americans claim also includes Canada. I guess they’ll be next on the agenda.

  61. Mizburd said on 22 Apr 2008 at 12:23 am:
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    Why are you folks only concerned with the brown people who speak Spanish? Aren’t there illegal Canadians, or Norwegians, or Koreans, or . . . ?

  62. AWCheney said on 22 Apr 2008 at 12:40 am:
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    You obviously have not been following the illegal alien threads, Mizburd…the “brown people” element has been continually stressed by the illegals and their enablers. We’ve been trying to stress “illegal aliens” period, but they won’t have it. The fact is, in official government documents referencing race, Hispanics are listed as white. If you are referring to my comment above, read it a bit more carefully.

  63. Dolph said on 22 Apr 2008 at 2:05 am:
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    Robert T. Molleur said on 21 Apr 2008 at 7:04 pm:

    I think all three women look equally unhappy over the points they are trying to make. What is your point? I know all three of them and I don’t see any of the three getting that warm and fuzzy look over the issues they are discussing with the WaPo.

    Perhaps you see something I don’t see. I see 3 brave women.

  64. Anonymous said on 22 Apr 2008 at 3:36 am:
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    Native Americans try to hide overwhelming evidence that Europeans were here at least at the same time if not before what we now call native Americans:

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C05E3DC113CF933A0575AC0A960958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

    None of that including what happened hundreds of years ago matters as you lose both arguments of property rights. What matters is today and the laws of the United States of America.

  65. Rob Smalls - Part-Time Commenter, Full Time American said on 22 Apr 2008 at 7:40 am:
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    That stings, Doc. :)

    Allison - Whenever you and Chris are ready, just give me a call and we’ll get together again.

  66. Krutis said on 22 Apr 2008 at 7:46 am:
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    Agree with Dolph. I felt that the serious look on the two women’s faces showed their deep concern and, to me at least, conveyed their determination. Smiling faces wouldn’t have done that, pretty or not. BTW, I think they’re both quite goodlooking!

  67. Mizburd said on 22 Apr 2008 at 8:23 am:
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    I wasn’t referring to your comment specifically, AWCheney. I was referring to the fact that people who appear to be from Latin- or South-American countries seem to be having their citizenship credentials checked (and their presence questioned) more thoroughly than other people. Fair is fair.

  68. Anonymous said on 22 Apr 2008 at 8:54 am:
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    choctaws said on 21 Apr 2008 at 10:29 pm:
    Chereo,

    I do understand what happens when an invading force robs you of your birthright.
    I have a little tear dripping from my eye.

    It’s tatooed there.

  69. Anonymous said on 22 Apr 2008 at 8:59 am:
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    Mizburd said on 22 Apr 2008 at 8:23 am:
    I wasn’t referring to your comment specifically, AWCheney. I was referring to the fact that people who appear to be from Latin- or South-American countries seem to be having their citizenship credentials checked (and their presence questioned) more thoroughly than other people. Fair is fair.

    Maybe theY get the attention because there are 20 MILLION of them that are in the country ILLEGALY.

  70. monticup said on 22 Apr 2008 at 9:22 am:
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    Mizburd: Fair is fair–as previous posters have noted, the overwhelming number of illegal aliens in this country are from Mexico and Central America.

    I don’t know why so many Hispanic aliens are involved in crimes in comparison to immigrants from other countries, but there you are. Could it be that Mexico and the countries of Central America are actually dumping their social problems on the US?

  71. Emma said on 22 Apr 2008 at 5:30 pm:
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    Check out this comment on washingtonpost.com at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/20/AR2008042002136_Comments.html#
    in reference to Chris Pannell and Allison Kipp:

    “kgotthardt wrote:
    And I suppose they just KNEW who was “legal” and who was not, right? They’d rather have empty houses than work on fixing their neighborhood? These people deserve what they get and what they have coming.
    4/21/2008 9:23:19 PM”

    I am very concerned about the statement “These people deserve what they get and what they have coming.” Does anyone besides me see that as some kind of threat?

    This is the same Katherine Mercurio Gotthardt who presented six made-up scenarios to the MJM on Sunday and then demanded that the PWC Board DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! Here is the link: http://www.insidenova.com/isn/news/opinion/letters_to_the_editor/article/exploring_the_stories_behind_the_numbers/14129/

    I posted this on the OTHER blog, but it was edited out earlier today. So I guess they lie about being “the uncensored version.” I’m sure she has a perfectly reasonable explanation for this statement….

  72. Anonymous said on 22 Apr 2008 at 6:38 pm:
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    monticup said on 22 Apr 2008 at 9:22 am:
    I don’t know why so many Hispanic aliens are involved in crimes in comparison to immigrants from other countries, but there you are.

    The only law they have is the law of the jungle. Their home countries are lawless.

  73. Bl said on 23 Apr 2008 at 10:54 am:
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    To hear Democrats and Hispanic racists tell it, the 38 million or so criminals in America from Mexico and further points south are not “illegal aliens,” but rather are undocumented lovers, students, philanthropists, poets, philosophers, artists, circus clowns, snake charmers, human rights activists, and other vital cogs in the American way of life.

    According to deluded open borders nut cases, nary a terrorist or other manner of criminal is among the beloved 38 million. Each and every one is a noble and loving human, worthy of the highest form of respect that can be conferred on a stranger without knowing a damn thing about that stranger’s medical, financial, criminal, or social background and history.
    There is, they point out, no Spanish translation for the words Al-Quaeda. Not needed, you see, because terrorists are weeded out of Latino families at an early age. And raised to be members of MS-13 and other respectable Latino gangs, we might add!

    So to the leftist and Hispanic racist mind set, the issue of illegal immigration is merely a Caucasian-inspired canard to keep brown people out of America. What is the fuss, they scream, over a simple piece of paper when human poverty and hunger need to be addressed?

    Pope Benedict even joined the fray by lecturing American politicians about the awful consequences of separating families.

    So, Your Holiness, why not counsel your flock of brown sheep to stay with their families in their home nations, instead of invading America and wrecking the aspirations of middle-class American citizen families?

    In other words, if family is so damn important to Pancho, Pancho should not leave his family in Mexico to come here for food stamps and welfare!

    To those already here and in a snit about leaving family, do us a favor: Take all your family, including anchor babies, with you back to Mexico! Keep that family together–just not here!

    Pronto, if you please!

    But to concede a point ever so slightly, I agree that illegal aliens deserve some form of American documentation. Specifically, a deportation order for each and every last one of the 38 million invaders!

    Deportation orders are what illegals deserve and, when fully executed, will benefit America and the American people.

  74. Johnson said on 23 Apr 2008 at 4:28 pm:
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    Emma said at 4:22 on April 23-

    Of course it’s a threat. People who can’t use facts, logic or common sense to make a point will threaten and call names when their arguements don’t stand up. It’s logic vs. emotion, with a touch of elitism. The fact that the other site deleted your post is proof.

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