Comments on: Open Thread http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/ Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics. Thu, 24 May 2012 03:39:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: Wine Please http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-63139 Wine Please Tue, 29 Apr 2008 20:06:48 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-63139 Don't know if anyone will see this...but has anyone seen the car parked on Devlin Rd. near Linton Hall Rd. with the www.bristowcommons.com sign on it? It's petition to change that area from residential to mixed commercial...but what about if we don't want ANYTHING built there? We certainly don't need any more new homes, and we have a ton of new businesses going up on SR-28/Hornbaker and in the Gainesville Shopping Center area...I would really like to keep some green...some trees...help keep the deer where they belong instead of getting chased out. Anyone with me? any ideas? anyone? bueller? :) Don’t know if anyone will see this…but has anyone seen the car parked on Devlin Rd. near Linton Hall Rd. with the www.bristowcommons.com sign on it? It’s petition to change that area from residential to mixed commercial…but what about if we don’t want ANYTHING built there? We certainly don’t need any more new homes, and we have a ton of new businesses going up on SR-28/Hornbaker and in the Gainesville Shopping Center area…I would really like to keep some green…some trees…help keep the deer where they belong instead of getting chased out. Anyone with me? any ideas? anyone? bueller? :)

]]> By: BattleCat http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-63070 BattleCat Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:34:15 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-63070 Mexican Tourism: http://www.kerman94.com/mexicotourism.html Mexican Tourism:

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]]> By: After Noon http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62842 After Noon Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:32:30 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62842 Anon (10:04): Your opinion is fine, but what's up with your riding Park'd on not getting involed enough? It's weird...(You deemed: "your complaints and concerns are completely legitimate. I just hope you are person that will do something about them" and "Maybe you should join it and try to define the future of your neighborhood instead of sitting here and complaining about.") . Actually I do have a serious question for you. If you were to give up your family-supporting job, start your own HOA, and try to block a group of people who are trying to profit of off rentals, will they not also invest in lawyers who sue your ass off to protect thier investments that will allow then to do whatever necessary in order to be the most profitable? HOAs tend to grow into a gross abuse of government. and I am very happy not being in one. They can be great at first, until they start telling you what color my front foor must be, or what flowers I allowed to plant on my land. Anon (10:04):
Your opinion is fine, but what’s up with your riding Park’d on not getting involed enough? It’s weird…(You deemed: “your complaints and concerns are completely legitimate. I just hope you are person that will do something about them” and “Maybe you should join it and try to define the future of your neighborhood instead of sitting here and complaining about.”) .

Actually I do have a serious question for you.
If you were to give up your family-supporting job, start your own HOA, and try to block a group of people who are trying to profit of off rentals, will they not also invest in lawyers who sue your ass off to protect thier investments that will allow then to do whatever necessary in order to be the most profitable?

HOAs tend to grow into a gross abuse of government. and I am very happy not being in one. They can be great at first, until they start telling you what color my front foor must be, or what flowers I allowed to plant on my land.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62799 Anonymous Sat, 26 Apr 2008 02:04:10 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62799 Park'd, don't you have an HOA in your neighborhood? Maybe you should join it and try to define the future of your neighborhood instead of sitting here and complaining about. It's not like your complaints aren't legitimate, don't get me wrong - I just see you as someone who is smart enough to be able to help himself and his community. Maybe if you joined the HOA and focused on community rules, you would find yourself with better neighbors (tenants and homeowners) if an active HOA required those that lived there to follow the rules to the letter. It is something that is making a difference in our neighborhood. It isn't making our prices come back any faster, but it is serving to improve the quality of life, slowly but surely. Like I said, your complaints and concerns are completely legitimate. I just hope you are person that will do something about them. Park’d, don’t you have an HOA in your neighborhood? Maybe you should join it and try to define the future of your neighborhood instead of sitting here and complaining about. It’s not like your complaints aren’t legitimate, don’t get me wrong - I just see you as someone who is smart enough to be able to help himself and his community. Maybe if you joined the HOA and focused on community rules, you would find yourself with better neighbors (tenants and homeowners) if an active HOA required those that lived there to follow the rules to the letter. It is something that is making a difference in our neighborhood. It isn’t making our prices come back any faster, but it is serving to improve the quality of life, slowly but surely.

Like I said, your complaints and concerns are completely legitimate. I just hope you are person that will do something about them.

]]> By: park'd http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62721 park'd Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:02:39 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62721 Tell me about it. I can't refi because comps in my neighborhood came back at 200k while MP sends me a 307k tax assessment... Criminal behavior at its best. As far as the houses being bought up, 50-1 says it is investors who plan to rent them out to the worst of the worst via section 8. Welcome to the ghetto baby. I feel it is out of the pot and into the fire, at least for me and my neighborhood. Tell me about it. I can’t refi because comps in my neighborhood came back at 200k while MP sends me a 307k tax assessment…

Criminal behavior at its best. As far as the houses being bought up, 50-1 says it is investors who plan to rent them out to the worst of the worst via section 8. Welcome to the ghetto baby. I feel it is out of the pot and into the fire, at least for me and my neighborhood.

]]> By: KP http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62663 KP Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:40:46 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62663 Dave in PWC, I hear you. Maybe a guard dog would also work. It might keep the deer and other critters from treating my plants and bushes like an all-you-can-eat buffet (keeping 'em out). On another note, seems like a lot of M'Park homes are being bought up. That is good as there were a lot that had been empty from previous folks abandoning them from 1-2 years ago. Unfortunately, they are selling for much less than my appraisal (opening a sore wound?). Dave in PWC,
I hear you. Maybe a guard dog would also work. It might keep the deer and other critters from treating my plants and bushes like an all-you-can-eat buffet (keeping ‘em out).

On another note, seems like a lot of M’Park homes are being bought up. That is good as there were a lot that had been empty from previous folks abandoning them from 1-2 years ago. Unfortunately, they are selling for much less than my appraisal (opening a sore wound?).

]]> By: Dave in PWC http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62653 Dave in PWC Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:06:45 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62653 KP, The kids that were watering our grass and other things were hispanics, I'll leave it to your imagination whether they or their parents were illegal aliens or not, but you know what I think they are. It is a nautical term of course. The illegal aliens are dropping anchors, the kids are dropping "trou". As to the decrease, well I think we have the "rule of law" to thank for that. Thanks again PWCPD for responding to a complaint made by several property owners about the irresponsible actions of kids while their parents watched. KP,

The kids that were watering our grass and other things were hispanics, I’ll leave it to your imagination whether they or their parents were illegal aliens or not, but you know what I think they are. It is a nautical term of course. The illegal aliens are dropping anchors, the kids are dropping “trou”.

As to the decrease, well I think we have the “rule of law” to thank for that.

Thanks again PWCPD for responding to a complaint made by several property owners about the irresponsible actions of kids while their parents watched.

]]> By: Dave on Dublin http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62650 Dave on Dublin Fri, 25 Apr 2008 04:23:06 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62650 Greg L - Read your response (I made the "undecided" comment). I owe the group an apology. I followed the rule of lurk before post, but still inserted foot. We could post baseball scores here and the apologists will still scream racism. I made my post due to a few yahoos on this site. But after diving in to the anti blog, it pales in comparison (numbers of yahoos). I guess they are going out of their minds having to explain their craziness on a daily basis to those who genuinely ask why they are against the resolution. They must also be feeling the sting that the resolution is sticking (so far, fingers crossed) through all the budget battles. Greg L - Read your response (I made the “undecided” comment). I owe the group an apology. I followed the rule of lurk before post, but still inserted foot. We could post baseball scores here and the apologists will still scream racism. I made my post due to a few yahoos on this site. But after diving in to the anti blog, it pales in comparison (numbers of yahoos).

I guess they are going out of their minds having to explain their craziness on a daily basis to those who genuinely ask why they are against the resolution. They must also be feeling the sting that the resolution is sticking (so far, fingers crossed) through all the budget battles.

]]> By: Dave on Dublin http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62648 Dave on Dublin Fri, 25 Apr 2008 03:52:19 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62648 Hi Michael - thanks for the read. I am now "Dave on Dublin" (used to be undecided). Count me in for that way of thinking as well. I have been defending that exact point (illegal, not ethnic issue) in the ANTI blog, and while it was on deaf ears, at least it was another voice of reason, and a few others were also speaking out (someone also named Michael was really getting them wound up yesterday). Hi Michael - thanks for the read. I am now “Dave on Dublin” (used to be undecided).
Count me in for that way of thinking as well. I have been defending that exact point (illegal, not ethnic issue) in the ANTI blog, and while it was on deaf ears, at least it was another voice of reason, and a few others were also speaking out (someone also named Michael was really getting them wound up yesterday).

]]> By: Michael http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62624 Michael Fri, 25 Apr 2008 01:29:05 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62624 Undecided, many of us have tried to get people on this post to think only in terms of "illegal" and "legal" behavior, and to look at this issue only in terms of legal concepts that are not based on gender, religion, race or ethnic group. For the most part, most of us have stayed in this boundary line, recognizing the consequence of defeating the relevance of our entire message. Every now and then you get an arrogant and angry fool who also recognizes the "majority" of the "illegal" offenders also factually happen to be of a few related ethnic groups and targets them in anger, instead of the "illegal" behavior. We try to put a stop to it when we can but you can't police every single post. Only Greg can do that, and even then I doubt it is wise to make him judge and jury. This country invites and upholds free speech, even when it is targeted at specific groups of people, so it is difficult to shut people up when they say the wrong thing. Undecided, many of us have tried to get people on this post to think only in terms of “illegal” and “legal” behavior, and to look at this issue only in terms of legal concepts that are not based on gender, religion, race or ethnic group. For the most part, most of us have stayed in this boundary line, recognizing the consequence of defeating the relevance of our entire message. Every now and then you get an arrogant and angry fool who also recognizes the “majority” of the “illegal” offenders also factually happen to be of a few related ethnic groups and targets them in anger, instead of the “illegal” behavior. We try to put a stop to it when we can but you can’t police every single post. Only Greg can do that, and even then I doubt it is wise to make him judge and jury.
This country invites and upholds free speech, even when it is targeted at specific groups of people, so it is difficult to shut people up when they say the wrong thing.

]]> By: AWCheney http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62569 AWCheney Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:36:16 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62569 Welcome Dave! It's great to see some new "faces" around here. Pull up a keyboard and heave to! I checked out AntiBVBL myself and, for all their talk about being a fair and open forum, at least one of our folks has been deleted and I found it to be a one-sided forum where "attack the messenger, not the message" is the order of the day. Welcome Dave! It’s great to see some new “faces” around here. Pull up a keyboard and heave to!

I checked out AntiBVBL myself and, for all their talk about being a fair and open forum, at least one of our folks has been deleted and I found it to be a one-sided forum where “attack the messenger, not the message” is the order of the day.

]]> By: Dave On Dublin http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62563 Dave On Dublin Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:06:50 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62563 too many daves - changing name to: Dave On Dublin too many daves - changing name to: Dave On Dublin

]]> By: Dave http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62561 Dave Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:06:03 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62561 Hello all, My name is Dave. Im new to the blog. I have spent some time watching this page and even checking out (and posting/completely wasting my time) in the ANTI. I'm out in Sudley Manor, and we are happily considering sending our son back to public school next year (right now we home school). The grade curve was so low that our English-speaking son wasn't able to learn anything he didn't already learn in pre-school. I have many people to thank in this forum for the hard work they have done to make this a possibility, and to make the resolution a reality. Thanks! -Dave Hello all,
My name is Dave. Im new to the blog. I have spent some time watching this page and even checking out (and posting/completely wasting my time) in the ANTI.

I’m out in Sudley Manor, and we are happily considering sending our son back to public school next year (right now we home school). The grade curve was so low that our English-speaking son wasn’t able to learn anything he didn’t already learn in pre-school.

I have many people to thank in this forum for the hard work they have done to make this a possibility, and to make the resolution a reality.

Thanks!
-Dave

]]> By: MP Resident http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62534 MP Resident Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:58:50 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62534 "Another log jam is the intersection of Manassas Dr. and Uclid. It isn’t as bad as the schools are not on M Dr., but there are still a whole bunch of parents driving kids to school every morning." That's why Manassas Park decided to extend Connor drive to Manasas Drive. Frankly, I say let the kids use the bus, if they or their parents don't like the traffic jam. “Another log jam is the intersection of Manassas Dr. and Uclid. It isn’t as bad as the schools are not on M Dr., but there are still a whole bunch of parents driving kids to school every morning.”

That’s why Manassas Park decided to extend Connor drive to Manasas Drive. Frankly, I say let the kids use the bus, if they or their parents don’t like the traffic jam.

]]> By: KP http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62531 KP Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:35:36 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62531 Dave in PWC said "Thanks to PWCPD’s finest parked watching the kids, they aren’t dropping “trou” and watering the grass and flowers anymore." Is that the regular kids, the PD, or the kids of illegals watering? Hmmm 60% reduction in kids. Wonder what gives? Another log jam is the intersection of Manassas Dr. and Uclid. It isn't as bad as the schools are not on M Dr., but there are still a whole bunch of parents driving kids to school every morning. Dave in PWC said “Thanks to PWCPD’s finest parked watching the kids, they aren’t dropping “trou” and watering the grass and flowers anymore.”

Is that the regular kids, the PD, or the kids of illegals watering? Hmmm 60% reduction in kids. Wonder what gives?

Another log jam is the intersection of Manassas Dr. and Uclid. It isn’t as bad as the schools are not on M Dr., but there are still a whole bunch of parents driving kids to school every morning.

]]> By: dk http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62529 dk Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:03:27 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62529 I just read the article in the Washington Post about the county executives to reconsider the Immigration Policy in effect, because of monetary concerns; http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/23/AR2008042302199.html Officers are afraid of racial profiling complaints brought upon them, which is a viable worry for them. The county now says they don't have the money for cameras to protect the officers from such accusations. My suggestion and I'm not sure if it will work, but why not have the police ask everyone what there immigration status is. If I was pulled over for something and an officer asked me, I wouldn't be offended. But it is a shame in our society that the aclu looks forward to actions like these, so that they have something to do. I just read the article in the Washington Post about the county executives to reconsider the Immigration Policy in effect, because of monetary concerns; http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/23/AR2008042302199.html

Officers are afraid of racial profiling complaints brought upon them, which is a viable worry for them. The county now says they don’t have the money for cameras to protect the officers from such accusations. My suggestion and I’m not sure if it will work, but why not have the police ask everyone what there immigration status is. If I was pulled over for something and an officer asked me, I wouldn’t be offended. But it is a shame in our society that the aclu looks forward to actions like these, so that they have something to do.

]]> By: Dave in PWC http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62519 Dave in PWC Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:55:20 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62519 I"m still seeing about 20 kids at the elementary school bus stop in the morning at the bottom of Aaron and Adler here in the county. This is a big change from the over 50 kids it used to be. Thanks to PWCPD's finest parked watching the kids, they aren't dropping "trou" and watering the grass and flowers anymore. I”m still seeing about 20 kids at the elementary school bus stop in the morning at the bottom of Aaron and Adler here in the county. This is a big change from the over 50 kids it used to be. Thanks to PWCPD’s finest parked watching the kids, they aren’t dropping “trou” and watering the grass and flowers anymore.

]]> By: KP http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62517 KP Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:24:38 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62517 L.King said "I drive my son who is in special ed to school every morning." I understand there are special cases like yours, but if you just go anywhere near Union Mill on any weekday morning, there are hundreds of parents dropping off kids at C'Ville HS. They all can't possibly be in Special Ed. The entire area is a complete mess from 7-8AM. L.King said “I drive my son who is in special ed to school every morning.”

I understand there are special cases like yours, but if you just go anywhere near Union Mill on any weekday morning, there are hundreds of parents dropping off kids at C’Ville HS. They all can’t possibly be in Special Ed. The entire area is a complete mess from 7-8AM.

]]> By: Citizen 12 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62511 Citizen 12 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:26:59 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62511 Food for thought. Some time ago I heard Boon Pickens interviewed on the radio and he was asked a question concerning the escalating price of gas. His response was to the effect that, as long as oil executives look out their office windows and see lines of SUV's at the elementary school dropping off or picking up one kid at a time, they will continue to raise the price knowing that the demand is still high and cost is not that high to effect consumption. Food for thought. Some time ago I heard Boon Pickens interviewed on the radio and he was asked a question concerning the escalating price of gas. His response was to the effect that, as long as oil executives look out their office windows and see lines of SUV’s at the elementary school dropping off or picking up one kid at a time, they will continue to raise the price knowing that the demand is still high and cost is not that high to effect consumption.

]]> By: Mr. http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62509 Mr. Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:26:06 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/23/open-thread-15/#comment-62509 Has anyone noticed how bad the old urgent care center on 234 looks? It's one of the first things you see when getting off the 234 exit, other than the restaurants and gas stations. THe grass is about knee high. The Vilichez (sp) Realty group has been promising to move in for several years now. I wonder why they don't cut the grass; it's not very good advertising for them! Has anyone noticed how bad the old urgent care center on 234 looks? It’s one of the first things you see when getting off the 234 exit, other than the restaurants and gas stations. THe grass is about knee high. The Vilichez (sp) Realty group has been promising to move in for several years now. I wonder why they don’t cut the grass; it’s not very good advertising for them!

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