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	<title>Comments on: Illegal Alien Apologists Find Faulty Spokesmen</title>
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		<title>By: OhNo!</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/28/illegal-alien-apologists-find-faulty-spokesmen/#comment-63115</link>
		<dc:creator>OhNo!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/28/illegal-alien-apologists-find-faulty-spokesmen/#comment-63115</guid>
		<description>Hey El Lobo-

Is this the ole trick a roo..avoid a question but asking one??  LOL! 
so please:

How does racism and bigotry describe them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey El Lobo-</p>
<p>Is this the ole trick a roo..avoid a question but asking one??  LOL!<br />
so please:</p>
<p>How does racism and bigotry describe them?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/28/illegal-alien-apologists-find-faulty-spokesmen/#comment-63109</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Fuller's publications are listed at http://policy.gmu.edu/faculty/fuller/pubs.html

This would be an interesting analysis:

1. How many of these publications appear in peer-reviewed journals? This is the gold standard for evaluating scientific research.

2. How many of these publications are relevant to the issue of employment of illegal immigrants?

3. How does Dr. Fuller define and operationalize the construct of "diversity?"

4. How does Dr. Fuller demonstrate empirically any relationships between "diversity" and economic outcomes?

5. Have these empirical investigations been repeated by others?

Scientists contribute to the public good by providing science.  Dr. Fuller is entitled to his own opinions but not his own facts. Unless grounded in scientific basis, Dr. Fuller's arguments are opinions -- the same thing that any of us can offer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Fuller&#8217;s publications are listed at <a href="http://policy.gmu.edu/faculty/fuller/pubs.html" rel="nofollow">http://policy.gmu.edu/faculty/fuller/pubs.html</a></p>
<p>This would be an interesting analysis:</p>
<p>1. How many of these publications appear in peer-reviewed journals? This is the gold standard for evaluating scientific research.</p>
<p>2. How many of these publications are relevant to the issue of employment of illegal immigrants?</p>
<p>3. How does Dr. Fuller define and operationalize the construct of &#8220;diversity?&#8221;</p>
<p>4. How does Dr. Fuller demonstrate empirically any relationships between &#8220;diversity&#8221; and economic outcomes?</p>
<p>5. Have these empirical investigations been repeated by others?</p>
<p>Scientists contribute to the public good by providing science.  Dr. Fuller is entitled to his own opinions but not his own facts. Unless grounded in scientific basis, Dr. Fuller&#8217;s arguments are opinions &#8212; the same thing that any of us can offer.</p>
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		<title>By: es_la_ley</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/28/illegal-alien-apologists-find-faulty-spokesmen/#comment-63085</link>
		<dc:creator>es_la_ley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/28/illegal-alien-apologists-find-faulty-spokesmen/#comment-63085</guid>
		<description>El Lobo said on 28 Apr 2008 at 2:27 pm:

&lt;i&gt;I just perused “anti-bvbl” blog. It is amazing, mind numbing how illegal alien apologists circumvent the key issues and problems with illegal immigration. &lt;/i&gt;

It's a fascinating read, if you can keep from retching.  It's more anti-Greg or anti-Corey than anything. Check out the comments there under the Holy Smoke title posted.  It's a hoot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>El Lobo said on 28 Apr 2008 at 2:27 pm:</p>
<p><i>I just perused “anti-bvbl” blog. It is amazing, mind numbing how illegal alien apologists circumvent the key issues and problems with illegal immigration. </i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s a fascinating read, if you can keep from retching.  It&#8217;s more anti-Greg or anti-Corey than anything. Check out the comments there under the Holy Smoke title posted.  It&#8217;s a hoot.</p>
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		<title>By: El Lobo</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/28/illegal-alien-apologists-find-faulty-spokesmen/#comment-63079</link>
		<dc:creator>El Lobo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I contacted all of the PWC Supervisors' offices....each  staff person replied that the e-mail, telephone, and fax response is OVERWHELMINGLY in support of keeping the Resolution intact. However, it is very important to attend the meeting at 2:00 tomorrow to voice our support. Frank Principi....where are you? Mr. Principi has not responded to inquries from angry supporters who question his wanting to "alter" the Resolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I contacted all of the PWC Supervisors&#8217; offices&#8230;.each  staff person replied that the e-mail, telephone, and fax response is OVERWHELMINGLY in support of keeping the Resolution intact. However, it is very important to attend the meeting at 2:00 tomorrow to voice our support. Frank Principi&#8230;.where are you? Mr. Principi has not responded to inquries from angry supporters who question his wanting to &#8220;alter&#8221; the Resolution.</p>
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		<title>By: El Lobo</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/28/illegal-alien-apologists-find-faulty-spokesmen/#comment-63076</link>
		<dc:creator>El Lobo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/28/illegal-alien-apologists-find-faulty-spokesmen/#comment-63076</guid>
		<description>Please, OhNo!......you DO remember the good ole' on the playground...."what you see in others......you MUST know the rest of the story! Random statement.....huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, OhNo!&#8230;&#8230;you DO remember the good ole&#8217; on the playground&#8230;.&#8221;what you see in others&#8230;&#8230;you MUST know the rest of the story! Random statement&#8230;..huh?</p>
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		<title>By: OhNo!</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/28/illegal-alien-apologists-find-faulty-spokesmen/#comment-63072</link>
		<dc:creator>OhNo!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/28/illegal-alien-apologists-find-faulty-spokesmen/#comment-63072</guid>
		<description>El Lobo said on 28 Apr 2008 at 2:27 pm: 
I just perused “anti-bvbl” blog. It is amazing, mind numbing how illegal alien apologists circumvent the key issues and problems with illegal immigration. Its an affliction of the mind that does not allow them to go beyond the “poor me syndrome”; all they see is racism and bigotry when in reality that describes who they are. 

How does racism and bigotry describe them? 

Your statement kinda made me chuckle cause it reminds me of the good ole schoold days on the playground when the big bad bully had nothing better to say...except " I know you are but what am I"....Please explain..I'm just an occasional reader of both blogs and when I see a random statement out there, I gotta ask....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>El Lobo said on 28 Apr 2008 at 2:27 pm:<br />
I just perused “anti-bvbl” blog. It is amazing, mind numbing how illegal alien apologists circumvent the key issues and problems with illegal immigration. Its an affliction of the mind that does not allow them to go beyond the “poor me syndrome”; all they see is racism and bigotry when in reality that describes who they are. </p>
<p>How does racism and bigotry describe them? </p>
<p>Your statement kinda made me chuckle cause it reminds me of the good ole schoold days on the playground when the big bad bully had nothing better to say&#8230;except &#8221; I know you are but what am I&#8221;&#8230;.Please explain..I&#8217;m just an occasional reader of both blogs and when I see a random statement out there, I gotta ask&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: americangal4ever</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/28/illegal-alien-apologists-find-faulty-spokesmen/#comment-63064</link>
		<dc:creator>americangal4ever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/28/illegal-alien-apologists-find-faulty-spokesmen/#comment-63064</guid>
		<description>This is a different subject but important none the less.
This is from the Canada Free press. Sad we have to get our information from Canada to get the truth.
North American Standards and Regulatory Area, NASRA
SPP “Busted” - Now Called NASRA. It’s Time to Call a Halt to the SPP!!
 By Tom Deweese  Saturday, April 26, 2008 


The “Three Amigos” are attempting an old-fashioned switcheroo, much like the 1930’s grifters portrayed by Newman and Redford in “The Sting.” 

Frustrated that alert and clear-thinking Americans and Canadians see the nefarious purposes behind the “Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP),” President Bush has apparently concluded “that dog won’t hunt” - at least not under the moniker of “SPP.” In a surprisingly simple-minded approach, the President has apparently decided changing a skunk’s name changes the fact that it still stinks. Shame on President Bush! If he weren’t up to his neck in treachery, he would not need to hide his activities from the nation. 

Last year’s secret SPP summit meeting in Montebello focused on finding ways to get the people to swallow the idea of the collaboration leading to the North American Union, and to quiet its critics. Presumably, these were the topics of discussion when members of the North American Competitiveness Council (NACC) met with the leaders behind closed doors. The NACC is a largely secretive advisory council to the SPP consisting of representatives of such companies as Wal Mart, Chevron Oil, and Lockheed-Martin. 

An internal memo from Canada’s Foreign Affairs and Internal Trade ministry documents that the NACC was urged to launch a public relations campaign to counter growing criticism of the trilateral cooperative that is a cornerstone of the building North American Union. According to the memo, “Leaders discussed some of the difficulties of the SPP, including the lack of popular support and the failure of the public to understand the competitive challenges confronting North America.” The memo emphasized the “NACC members should (play) a role in communicating the merits of North American collaboration.” Am I the only one who remembers the definition of “collaboration,” at least as it applies to nations and their citizens? 

Further, in point of fact, these “competitive challenges” do not face North America…they face global corporations doing business in North America. The SPP has nothing to do with ensuring the security and prosperity of the United State’s citizens, or U.S. corporations would first and foremost conduct business as Americans. The “Partnership” is between government and business; it values the nation’s citizens only as human resources. 

Many corporate CEOS now seem to favor former CEO of GE Jack Welsh’s advice (as far as they practically can) that, “the ideal factory would be built on a barge” so it could be hauled around the world to low-wage areas, where it could operate without labor rules, environmental protections or other standards. 

Following the advice in March of the Frazier Institute, a Canadian think tank, the “SPP” will forthwith and hereafter (until another name is required) be known as the “North American Standards and Regulatory Area.” I say, “until another name is required” in full faith that as growing numbers of Americans learn of this treachery at the highest levels of our government, they will resoundingly oppose it. 

Of greater significance than the name change is the Institute’s call to expand and speed up the process of integration. One Canadian reporter said of last year’s SPP Summit that the SPP was “dead” and “defunct.” Another recently stated the SPP has “collapsed under a heap of conspiratorial rubbish.” This is pure garbage. 

The “conspiratorial” label is pretty amusing, though, considering the Frazier Institute report suggested the name “North American Union,” or NAU, be dropped in favor of the new name. Unfortunately, the SPP is far from dead. But the growing public attention, and profound disapproval, obviously worries those sneaking around to secret meetings in dimly lit corners with secret files. 

Results of a brand new American Policy Center survey on the SPP clearly show when Americans understand the truth, they say “No!” in phenomenal numbers. People are overwhelmingly opposed to the “harmonization” and “integration,” both economically and politically, of Canada, Mexico, and the U.S. 

Even the name of the “Fourth SPP Annual Summit” was changed to the “North American Leaders’ Summit.” There’s an oxymoron for you; “Leaders” indeed! 

Enough, already! President Bush, it’s time to tell the American people: 

What’s on the table; what’s the “big picture?” 

What have the 20 SPP Working Groups been working on these past three years, specifically? 

What promises have been made to the leaders of Canada and Mexico; to members of the NACC? 

Will the 51 NACC proposals made to SPP negotiators last year, these “regulatory changes that don’t require legislative approval,” favor narrow corporate interests over American’s welfare, freedom, and liberty? 

What regulatory changes have already been made? 

Why, President Bush, are you involved in secret meetings and negotiations involving the very sovereignty of the United States without the advice and consent of Congress, the American people, or even under scrutiny of the Fourth Estate, even as largely worthless as it is? 

ACTION TO TAKE 
It’s time to FLOOD your Senators and Representatives with emails and faxes. 

Contact Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi at (202) 225-4965, or fax at (202) 225-8259. Tell Speaker Pelosi you are outraged at these continuing secret SPP/NAU meetings and activities. Tell her: 

1. Congress has TOO LONG shirked its oversight duty to the American People! 
2. You want the SPP stopped! 
3. You want an immediate halt to funding for any SPP activities involving employees of the Departments of State, Commerce, and Homeland Security; and, 
4. You want immediate hearings on, SPP activities participated in by the Departments of State, Commerce, and Homeland Security. 

Contact House Majority Whip, Steny Hoyer. 

Contact House Minority Leader, John Boehner. 

Contact House Minority Whip, Roy Blunt. 

Contact your member of Congress. 

Call the Congressional switchboard at (202) 224-3121. A switchboard operator will connect you directly with the House office you request. Tell these Congressmen you are outraged at these continuing secret SPP/NAU meetings and activities. Tell them: 

1. Congress has TOO LONG shirked its oversight duty to the American People! 
2. You want the SPP stopped! 
3. You want an immediate halt to funding for any SPP activities involving employees of the Departments of State, Commerce, and Homeland Security; and, 
4. You want immediate hearings on, SPP activities participated in by the Departments of State, Commerce, and Homeland Security. 

Contact Senate Majority Leader, Harry Reid at (202) 224-3542, or fax at (202) 224-7327. Tell Leader Reid you are outraged at these continuing secret SPP/NAU meetings and activities. Tell him: 

1. Congress has TOO LONG shirked its oversight duty to the American People! 
2. You want the SPP stopped! 
3. You want an immediate halt to funding for any SPP activities involving employees of the Departments of State, Commerce, and Homeland Security; and, 
4. You want immediate hearings on, SPP activities participated in by the Departments of State, Commerce, and Homeland Security. 

Contact Senate Assistant Majority Leader, Richard Durbin. 

Contact Senate Minority Leader, Mitch McConnell. 

Contact Senate Assistant Minority Leader, Jon Kyl. Tell these Senators you are outraged at these continuing secret SPP/NAU meetings and activities. Tell them: 

1. Congress has TOO LONG shirked its oversight duty to the American People! 
2. You want the SPP stopped! 
3. You want an immediate halt to funding for any SPP activities involving employees of the Departments of State, Commerce, and Homeland Security; and, 
4. You want immediate hearings on, SPP activities participated in by the Departments of State, Commerce, and Homeland Security. 

You will find a complete list of fax numbers and email addresses for House and Senate members here (http://www.conservativeusa.org/mega-cong.htm). 

Visit the American Policy Center website 

Posted 04/26 at 09:40 AM   Email  (Permalink)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a different subject but important none the less.<br />
This is from the Canada Free press. Sad we have to get our information from Canada to get the truth.<br />
North American Standards and Regulatory Area, NASRA<br />
SPP “Busted” - Now Called NASRA. It’s Time to Call a Halt to the SPP!!<br />
 By Tom Deweese  Saturday, April 26, 2008 </p>
<p>The “Three Amigos” are attempting an old-fashioned switcheroo, much like the 1930’s grifters portrayed by Newman and Redford in “The Sting.” </p>
<p>Frustrated that alert and clear-thinking Americans and Canadians see the nefarious purposes behind the “Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP),” President Bush has apparently concluded “that dog won’t hunt” - at least not under the moniker of “SPP.” In a surprisingly simple-minded approach, the President has apparently decided changing a skunk’s name changes the fact that it still stinks. Shame on President Bush! If he weren’t up to his neck in treachery, he would not need to hide his activities from the nation. </p>
<p>Last year’s secret SPP summit meeting in Montebello focused on finding ways to get the people to swallow the idea of the collaboration leading to the North American Union, and to quiet its critics. Presumably, these were the topics of discussion when members of the North American Competitiveness Council (NACC) met with the leaders behind closed doors. The NACC is a largely secretive advisory council to the SPP consisting of representatives of such companies as Wal Mart, Chevron Oil, and Lockheed-Martin. </p>
<p>An internal memo from Canada’s Foreign Affairs and Internal Trade ministry documents that the NACC was urged to launch a public relations campaign to counter growing criticism of the trilateral cooperative that is a cornerstone of the building North American Union. According to the memo, “Leaders discussed some of the difficulties of the SPP, including the lack of popular support and the failure of the public to understand the competitive challenges confronting North America.” The memo emphasized the “NACC members should (play) a role in communicating the merits of North American collaboration.” Am I the only one who remembers the definition of “collaboration,” at least as it applies to nations and their citizens? </p>
<p>Further, in point of fact, these “competitive challenges” do not face North America…they face global corporations doing business in North America. The SPP has nothing to do with ensuring the security and prosperity of the United State’s citizens, or U.S. corporations would first and foremost conduct business as Americans. The “Partnership” is between government and business; it values the nation’s citizens only as human resources. </p>
<p>Many corporate CEOS now seem to favor former CEO of GE Jack Welsh’s advice (as far as they practically can) that, “the ideal factory would be built on a barge” so it could be hauled around the world to low-wage areas, where it could operate without labor rules, environmental protections or other standards. </p>
<p>Following the advice in March of the Frazier Institute, a Canadian think tank, the “SPP” will forthwith and hereafter (until another name is required) be known as the “North American Standards and Regulatory Area.” I say, “until another name is required” in full faith that as growing numbers of Americans learn of this treachery at the highest levels of our government, they will resoundingly oppose it. </p>
<p>Of greater significance than the name change is the Institute’s call to expand and speed up the process of integration. One Canadian reporter said of last year’s SPP Summit that the SPP was “dead” and “defunct.” Another recently stated the SPP has “collapsed under a heap of conspiratorial rubbish.” This is pure garbage. </p>
<p>The “conspiratorial” label is pretty amusing, though, considering the Frazier Institute report suggested the name “North American Union,” or NAU, be dropped in favor of the new name. Unfortunately, the SPP is far from dead. But the growing public attention, and profound disapproval, obviously worries those sneaking around to secret meetings in dimly lit corners with secret files. </p>
<p>Results of a brand new American Policy Center survey on the SPP clearly show when Americans understand the truth, they say “No!” in phenomenal numbers. People are overwhelmingly opposed to the “harmonization” and “integration,” both economically and politically, of Canada, Mexico, and the U.S. </p>
<p>Even the name of the “Fourth SPP Annual Summit” was changed to the “North American Leaders’ Summit.” There’s an oxymoron for you; “Leaders” indeed! </p>
<p>Enough, already! President Bush, it’s time to tell the American people: </p>
<p>What’s on the table; what’s the “big picture?” </p>
<p>What have the 20 SPP Working Groups been working on these past three years, specifically? </p>
<p>What promises have been made to the leaders of Canada and Mexico; to members of the NACC? </p>
<p>Will the 51 NACC proposals made to SPP negotiators last year, these “regulatory changes that don’t require legislative approval,” favor narrow corporate interests over American’s welfare, freedom, and liberty? </p>
<p>What regulatory changes have already been made? </p>
<p>Why, President Bush, are you involved in secret meetings and negotiations involving the very sovereignty of the United States without the advice and consent of Congress, the American people, or even under scrutiny of the Fourth Estate, even as largely worthless as it is? </p>
<p>ACTION TO TAKE<br />
It’s time to FLOOD your Senators and Representatives with emails and faxes. </p>
<p>Contact Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi at (202) 225-4965, or fax at (202) 225-8259. Tell Speaker Pelosi you are outraged at these continuing secret SPP/NAU meetings and activities. Tell her: </p>
<p>1. Congress has TOO LONG shirked its oversight duty to the American People!<br />
2. You want the SPP stopped!<br />
3. You want an immediate halt to funding for any SPP activities involving employees of the Departments of State, Commerce, and Homeland Security; and,<br />
4. You want immediate hearings on, SPP activities participated in by the Departments of State, Commerce, and Homeland Security. </p>
<p>Contact House Majority Whip, Steny Hoyer. </p>
<p>Contact House Minority Leader, John Boehner. </p>
<p>Contact House Minority Whip, Roy Blunt. </p>
<p>Contact your member of Congress. </p>
<p>Call the Congressional switchboard at (202) 224-3121. A switchboard operator will connect you directly with the House office you request. Tell these Congressmen you are outraged at these continuing secret SPP/NAU meetings and activities. Tell them: </p>
<p>1. Congress has TOO LONG shirked its oversight duty to the American People!<br />
2. You want the SPP stopped!<br />
3. You want an immediate halt to funding for any SPP activities involving employees of the Departments of State, Commerce, and Homeland Security; and,<br />
4. You want immediate hearings on, SPP activities participated in by the Departments of State, Commerce, and Homeland Security. </p>
<p>Contact Senate Majority Leader, Harry Reid at (202) 224-3542, or fax at (202) 224-7327. Tell Leader Reid you are outraged at these continuing secret SPP/NAU meetings and activities. Tell him: </p>
<p>1. Congress has TOO LONG shirked its oversight duty to the American People!<br />
2. You want the SPP stopped!<br />
3. You want an immediate halt to funding for any SPP activities involving employees of the Departments of State, Commerce, and Homeland Security; and,<br />
4. You want immediate hearings on, SPP activities participated in by the Departments of State, Commerce, and Homeland Security. </p>
<p>Contact Senate Assistant Majority Leader, Richard Durbin. </p>
<p>Contact Senate Minority Leader, Mitch McConnell. </p>
<p>Contact Senate Assistant Minority Leader, Jon Kyl. Tell these Senators you are outraged at these continuing secret SPP/NAU meetings and activities. Tell them: </p>
<p>1. Congress has TOO LONG shirked its oversight duty to the American People!<br />
2. You want the SPP stopped!<br />
3. You want an immediate halt to funding for any SPP activities involving employees of the Departments of State, Commerce, and Homeland Security; and,<br />
4. You want immediate hearings on, SPP activities participated in by the Departments of State, Commerce, and Homeland Security. </p>
<p>You will find a complete list of fax numbers and email addresses for House and Senate members here (http://www.conservativeusa.org/mega-cong.htm). </p>
<p>Visit the American Policy Center website </p>
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		<title>By: BattleCat</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/28/illegal-alien-apologists-find-faulty-spokesmen/#comment-63063</link>
		<dc:creator>BattleCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A building industry vampire arguing to amnesty.  That's FUNNY.  Home builders would only too happily build crappy houses in PWC until they'd sell for $5/piece (it couldn't POSSIBLY cost more than $5 to build a house the way Brookfield builds a house), leaving all of us citizens with worthless houses and severe overcrowding.  The only thing I like less than illegal immigrants sucking up my tax dollars is a home builder.  Nice spokesman!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A building industry vampire arguing to amnesty.  That&#8217;s FUNNY.  Home builders would only too happily build crappy houses in PWC until they&#8217;d sell for $5/piece (it couldn&#8217;t POSSIBLY cost more than $5 to build a house the way Brookfield builds a house), leaving all of us citizens with worthless houses and severe overcrowding.  The only thing I like less than illegal immigrants sucking up my tax dollars is a home builder.  Nice spokesman!!!</p>
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		<title>By: k. o'toole</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/28/illegal-alien-apologists-find-faulty-spokesmen/#comment-63060</link>
		<dc:creator>k. o'toole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/28/illegal-alien-apologists-find-faulty-spokesmen/#comment-63060</guid>
		<description>Mexican press attache swipes white house blackberries at meeting in New Orleans. I wonder if he'll be at the bocs with his "credentials"? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352378,00.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mexican press attache swipes white house blackberries at meeting in New Orleans. I wonder if he&#8217;ll be at the bocs with his &#8220;credentials&#8221;? <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352378,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352378,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: El Lobo</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/28/illegal-alien-apologists-find-faulty-spokesmen/#comment-63058</link>
		<dc:creator>El Lobo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/28/illegal-alien-apologists-find-faulty-spokesmen/#comment-63058</guid>
		<description>I just perused "anti-bvbl" blog.  It is amazing, mind numbing  how  illegal alien apologists circumvent the key issues and problems with illegal immigration.  Its an affliction of the mind that does not allow them to go beyond the "poor me syndrome"; all they see is racism and bigotry when in reality that describes who they are. THANK YOU, BVBL for being the sanity check that you are. The information as presented in this blog is very useful and important in combating the illegal alien problem in PWC as well as in other counties/jurisdictions. THANK YOU GREGG!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just perused &#8220;anti-bvbl&#8221; blog.  It is amazing, mind numbing  how  illegal alien apologists circumvent the key issues and problems with illegal immigration.  Its an affliction of the mind that does not allow them to go beyond the &#8220;poor me syndrome&#8221;; all they see is racism and bigotry when in reality that describes who they are. THANK YOU, BVBL for being the sanity check that you are. The information as presented in this blog is very useful and important in combating the illegal alien problem in PWC as well as in other counties/jurisdictions. THANK YOU GREGG!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie M</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/28/illegal-alien-apologists-find-faulty-spokesmen/#comment-63055</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurie M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/28/illegal-alien-apologists-find-faulty-spokesmen/#comment-63055</guid>
		<description>Oklahoma also famously enacted anti-illegal/workplace verification laws, and it is also reaping dividends in a short period of time.  The state unemployment rate has gone DOWN since with the illegals gone, these jobs are being filled by formerly unemployed/underemployed Americans.

Of course, the illegal alien apologists will have a litany of excuses why this can not be.

It will be interesting to watch OK and see what the  effect is on their public school system and emergency medical services as demand goes down.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2008/04/22/oklahoma-unemployment-way-down-will-media-look-why

The Resolution is working; and similar legislation in other jurisdictions that have the courage to tough it out are finding that the net effects are positive.  It is important to hang tough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oklahoma also famously enacted anti-illegal/workplace verification laws, and it is also reaping dividends in a short period of time.  The state unemployment rate has gone DOWN since with the illegals gone, these jobs are being filled by formerly unemployed/underemployed Americans.</p>
<p>Of course, the illegal alien apologists will have a litany of excuses why this can not be.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to watch OK and see what the  effect is on their public school system and emergency medical services as demand goes down.</p>
<p><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2008/04/22/oklahoma-unemployment-way-down-will-media-look-why" rel="nofollow">http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2008/04/22/oklahoma-unemployment-way-down-will-media-look-why</a></p>
<p>The Resolution is working; and similar legislation in other jurisdictions that have the courage to tough it out are finding that the net effects are positive.  It is important to hang tough.</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/28/illegal-alien-apologists-find-faulty-spokesmen/#comment-63054</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/28/illegal-alien-apologists-find-faulty-spokesmen/#comment-63054</guid>
		<description>Both of these experts can easily be refuted...so where are the real experts?  It is obvious that both have a vested interest in continuing on the same path with illegal aliens as we have been.  For Granville-Smith it is, as you pointed out, obviously the desire of the developers to the flow of illegals into our area which feeds that cash cow to which they have grown so accustomed, as well as providing cheap labor with low overhead (sans Workman's Compensation, Unemployment Insurance, benefits, and, all to often, sans payroll taxes).

In the case of Dr. Fuller, the very fact that his expertise stands in question because of his utterly outrageous predictions gives him a strong motive to wish for our area to continue on the path of destruction with artificially inflated home prices perpetuated by the demand of hordes of illegal aliens pouring into our area and turning it into a region of boarding houses, necessary to house that illegal labor which those developers require to keep their pockets lined with ill-gotten gains.  It's a symbiotic relationship.

There must be some respected experts out there willing to refute this obvious self-interest before our BOS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both of these experts can easily be refuted&#8230;so where are the real experts?  It is obvious that both have a vested interest in continuing on the same path with illegal aliens as we have been.  For Granville-Smith it is, as you pointed out, obviously the desire of the developers to the flow of illegals into our area which feeds that cash cow to which they have grown so accustomed, as well as providing cheap labor with low overhead (sans Workman&#8217;s Compensation, Unemployment Insurance, benefits, and, all to often, sans payroll taxes).</p>
<p>In the case of Dr. Fuller, the very fact that his expertise stands in question because of his utterly outrageous predictions gives him a strong motive to wish for our area to continue on the path of destruction with artificially inflated home prices perpetuated by the demand of hordes of illegal aliens pouring into our area and turning it into a region of boarding houses, necessary to house that illegal labor which those developers require to keep their pockets lined with ill-gotten gains.  It&#8217;s a symbiotic relationship.</p>
<p>There must be some respected experts out there willing to refute this obvious self-interest before our BOS.</p>
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		<title>By: MP Resident</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/28/illegal-alien-apologists-find-faulty-spokesmen/#comment-63053</link>
		<dc:creator>MP Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/04/28/illegal-alien-apologists-find-faulty-spokesmen/#comment-63053</guid>
		<description>Nothing worse than an "economist" who doesn't understand the law of supply and demand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing worse than an &#8220;economist&#8221; who doesn&#8217;t understand the law of supply and demand.</p>
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