I believe that it is not that hard to solve problems in general but there is no leadership what so ever in PWC or the BOCS. There is a big ME attitude and no trying to get to the best solution but what sounds good to tell the public to get elected. There is a basic lack of understanding of how to run a business most of all and to be honest and equal in what is done. I don’t look at the Rule of Law as being an experiement but something that needs to be done but without the rancor and flip flop or you will do it my way attitude of Stewart. No one on the BOCS would ever be hired to be a Director of a real business or even as a major officer to run a business.

My biggest question is why was it allowed to get to the point of only the police can solve this situation and not the government of PWC?

I have spent too long over the years dealing with governments local, state and federal to not be fully aware of how they take care of them selves first and the public second if they are lucky.

The other part of the equasion is the public who elect these officials and do it more then not for the one who tells them what they want to hear. Gilmore got elected because he said he would eliminate PP tax and he knew he was lieing when he said that. The public loved it and put him in office where he could not get that accomplished. Stewart is another example of he says what you want to hear now and then changes his tune in a heart beat.

Ultimately, if the problems were easily solved, they’d have been solved already. Honorable people can (and DO) disagree about how much trouble and cost [I’m gonna use a “Patty-approved” empty phrase here!] political correctness has cost the community in its past openness to illegal alien residents, and (similarly) honorable people can (and do) disagree about the degree to which the long-term community benefits from excluding the illegal alien residents will outweigh the costs.

Hey, it’s an experiment, just like shutting down a nuclear power plant, or a Wal-Mart. Change is painful, but we’ve decided to try to build a smaller, more stable community. It’ll work, or it won’t. But what we had before was demonstrably ineffective.

Of course, you were not implying that growth would have slowed in the county strictly because of outside factors. Sorry! I’m slow sometimes.

If you are from Georgia that puts you way ahead of a W VA boy :)))))

Yes I am saying that growth would have slowed if there were no Rule of Law absolutly. What I also said was the No Growth people like Caddigan, Stewart, Stirrup and May should be jumping with joy over that but they now have to face the reality of what they wished for of no more new housing. where are they going to make up the income it produced and there are no more proffers either aka extortion payments that do not work as well to the county.

there is no county from Fairfax to Spotysavania that has not been hit with the slow down and this is the only county that has the Rule of Law. Bear Sterns failure with the mortgage market is not because of the failuers of PWC but what happened all over the country. Well their own stupidy and greed made it happen more then anything.

Of course, you were not implying that growth would have slowed in the county strictly because of outside factors. Sorry! I’m slow sometimes.

Where did I claim that the Rule of Law has proved ineffective ? If you believe that the Rule of Law is what has brought this county to no growth, then I doubt that you know much about the economics of the real estate. This country’s so called economy has been based on Borrowed Money from the equity of our houses for the past many years. There has been no real economy from people increasing thier income. Greed in the mind of home buyers and the Greed of lenders made a perfect storm for what has happened to the housing market. That did more to slow donw housing then any other factor and it is the largest reason for housing starts to fall. It will be a few years before we see much of a real recovery. When the value of your home has dropped from 25 to 50 percent when forclosed on it will be years before many new homes will make economic sense to be buit.

There is no problem if you want to be silly

Down on the Farm there is a saying that fits this RE market.

Pigs eat and Hogs go to slaughter.

AFL-CIO Union Community Fund
Alexandria Commission for the Arts
Alexandria Youth Fund
Herb Block Foundation
Morris and Gwendolyn Cafritz Foundation
Catholic Campaign for Human Development
Center for Community Change
Common Ground Fund
Community Foundation for the National Capital Region
Consumer Health Foundation
Discount Foundation
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Philip L. Graham Fund
Hill-Snowdon Foundation
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Golden Rule Foundation
Grassroots Global Justice
Department of Housing and Urban Development
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Jewish Fund for Justice / The Shefa Fund
Robert Wood Johnson Foundation
The Meyer Foundation
Charles Stewart Mott Foundation
Needmor Fund
Ms. Foundation
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Unitarian Universalist Veatch Program
United Way of the National Capital Area
Washington AIDS Partnership
Washington Area Women’s Foundation

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Day Laborers
Late in 2003, the TWSC joined with the Virginia Justice Center (VJC) to organize and develop the
leadership of day laborers in the Culmore area of Fairfax County. Day laborers are among the region’s most
vulnerable workers, suffering from non-payment of wages and other abuses of labor rights. With strong community
and business support, the TWSC and VJC are working to promote the active participation of dozens of day laborers
in a community-led planning effort to create a county-funded day laborer worker center in Culmore.

If that were true that the Rule of Law was to stop growth then why is growth stopped in the rest of the country that did not have a Rule of Law? Those who demanded no growth have it because of the economics of this country and what has it gotten you? Less taxable for the county income and a raise in your RE Taxes with more to come. You have lost some 25% of the value of your home and you think that is a good thing?

Of course the cost of government has not been reduced by some 25% has it. You will sit in traffic even more because the BOCS will not be able to sell bond from the 800 million bond issue that you passed. You were told by the BOCS that there would be no tax increase to issue those bond but you do so love to accept the lie if it says what you want to hear.

How thick is your skin?

Rage? I can assure you that you have no idea of me and Rage :))))

As I have said before it is about the Government and how little they care about the public. Of course I have a family understanding that government does not care if what they do kills you. I just spent 9 years in court and ended up with a law named after my mother because she was too old to be hurt on the job and could not be disabled per Baltimore County Govt. I have no use for PWC BOCS when they take several hundred dollars of your money to hear a zoning variance request for you home knowing full well in advance that they will not and can not grand any variance. I have no use for a government that picks and choose when they want to ovey the law knowing full well that the public is not going to take them to court and spend the money to make them obey the law.

You have no concept how thick my skin is. What I do is deliberate and thought out not emotional. What I will not tolerate or let it just go by is the lies, the bully attitude and shear stupidity of the member or the staff of the government employees.

It takes time but evidentialy even the public starts to ask questions of why some of these things do happen and then there are changes.

I thought it was “Niagara Falls.” Slowly I turned. Step by step…

But I digress. Getting back to the subject of this thread, I think it’s a good thing to have these communists putting out adverse literature about PWC. The astute businessman (and would we want any other kind?) would recognize that the workforce in PWC is less likely to be made up of types who constantly whine about their rights, file grievances, etc. So their overhead is going to be lower due to fewer complaints to the EEOC.

How thick is your skin?

On the other hand, Woodbridge has some very nice spots and some very nice housing. Same with Manassas. It all depends on where you go.

NO way . It is just the lies of your politicians who claim to be for the laws of America and the values of America. Free enterprise is what made this country not a government run or approved businesses. I laugh at the stupidity of the public who is the one paying the inflated prices at the dry cleaners when it could be less. that is just plain stupid. Do you think that your PWC BOCS should pass more zoning laws that limit free enterprise so that the public has to pay more for services in PWC. Like to see your answer to that reality.