Comments on: Manassas City To Deny Commercial Licenses To Illegal Aliens http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/ Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics. Thu, 24 May 2012 03:46:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: madmom http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-64088 madmom Tue, 06 May 2008 18:34:42 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-64088 This really pisses me off. I cannot believe any locality would give a BUSINESS license to anyone of illegal status. These guys have stolen most of the work from our home improvement company - they even stand outside of paint stores now trying to accost MY customers. When my customer came back with her paint, she said she felt sorry for them. That's when I had had enough and told her that well, I didn't, they shouldn't be here taking jobs away from those of us who REALLY PAY OUT THE WAZOO to remain a legitimate business. And didn't she know that most gang-bangers are day laborers? I want the City, the Park and PW County, and all of Virginia for that matter, to start checking for legal status upon the yearly renewal for a business license. No more of this crap - I am paying dearly for these stupid mistakes and oversights by our local governments. My credit will never be the same after years of hard work and paying bills on time to keep it perfect. And to tell you the truth, I'm beginning to not give a rat's azz anymore. Thank God for the BOCS (except Principi, who for some reason thinks replacing our legal workforce with uneducated cast-offs from other countries is OK for his county, let them be). I was never so happy to see that 7-1 vote. Now maybe we can get some work. This really pisses me off. I cannot believe any locality would give a BUSINESS license to anyone of illegal status. These guys have stolen most of the work from our home improvement company - they even stand outside of paint stores now trying to accost MY customers. When my customer came back with her paint, she said she felt sorry for them. That’s when I had had enough and told her that well, I didn’t, they shouldn’t be here taking jobs away from those of us who REALLY PAY OUT THE WAZOO to remain a legitimate business. And didn’t she know that most gang-bangers are day laborers?

I want the City, the Park and PW County, and all of Virginia for that matter,
to start checking for legal status upon the yearly renewal for a business license. No more of this crap - I am paying dearly for these stupid mistakes and oversights by our local governments. My credit will never be the same after years of hard work and paying bills on time to keep it perfect.

And to tell you the truth, I’m beginning to not give a rat’s azz anymore.

Thank God for the BOCS (except Principi, who for some reason thinks replacing our legal workforce with uneducated cast-offs from other
countries is OK for his county, let them be). I was never so happy to see that 7-1 vote. Now maybe we can get some work.

]]> By: Maureen Wood http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63952 Maureen Wood Mon, 05 May 2008 00:54:50 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63952 The city of Manassas requires that ALL peddlers and I believe all businesses in the city to have a license, no matter the income. I hope that the city will be responsive if there is a problem again this year. The city of Manassas requires that ALL peddlers and I believe all businesses in the city to have a license, no matter the income.
I hope that the city will be responsive if there is a problem again this year.

]]> By: Dan Cooper http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63900 Dan Cooper Sun, 04 May 2008 03:59:32 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63900 I really like the bio-print at the jail idea. How many illegals are going to subject themselves to that? I really like the bio-print at the jail idea. How many illegals are going to subject themselves to that?

]]> By: Dan Cooper http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63899 Dan Cooper Sun, 04 May 2008 03:57:30 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63899 One problem with the push-carts in Manassas City last year was that the carts were permitted to people outside the area altogether in many (I believe most) instances. The people actually operating the carts were not the same as named on the permits. This was a violation that seemed to slip right by our commissioner of revenue in Manassas while he was approving and issueing the permits, and further needed to be pointed out to the MCPD, then followed up on by citizens who demanded that authorities do the right thing. This made for a very tense relationship between certain citizens and the City officials involved. When the city council considers this new approach, they need to be certain they demand that licensed retailers and contractors agree to employ ONLY people here legally, under penalty of law. One problem with the push-carts in Manassas City last year was that the carts were permitted to people outside the area altogether in many (I believe most) instances. The people actually operating the carts were not the same as named on the permits. This was a violation that seemed to slip right by our commissioner of revenue in Manassas while he was approving and issueing the permits, and further needed to be pointed out to the MCPD, then followed up on by citizens who demanded that authorities do the right thing. This made for a very tense relationship between certain citizens and the City officials involved.

When the city council considers this new approach, they need to be certain they demand that licensed retailers and contractors agree to employ ONLY people here legally, under penalty of law.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63893 Anonymous Sun, 04 May 2008 02:10:28 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63893 UnMasMexican said on 3 May 2008 at 12:11 pm: Using Big Brother to attack the illegals? Some conservatives you all are! YES SIR! AIN'T IT GREAT! UnMasMexican said on 3 May 2008 at 12:11 pm:
Using Big Brother to attack the illegals? Some conservatives you all are!

YES SIR! AIN’T IT GREAT!

]]> By: 999 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63891 999 Sun, 04 May 2008 02:06:54 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63891 If the county did the same thing we would loose a great many illegals and their white vans with 30 ladders. If the county did the same thing we would loose a great many illegals and their white vans with 30 ladders.

]]> By: starryflights http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63866 starryflights Sat, 03 May 2008 19:02:43 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63866 Then, this is very good news. Then, this is very good news.

]]> By: AnonGuy http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63859 AnonGuy Sat, 03 May 2008 17:27:56 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63859 "Isn’t the catcher, that smaller businesses doing under a certain dollar amount are NOT required to have a business license and that this is where most illegal aliens doing business would fall?" Starry, You are confusing the county rules with the City rules, and Business Licenses with Peddlers & Solicitors Licenses, which is easy to do because the old peddlers laws were contradictory. Every peddler (one who sells wares on public streets and sidewalks, or sells anything except locally grown produce from a non-retail establishment such as fireworks, Christmas trees) must have a license. This includes roach-coach type vehicles, Icecream trucks, Taco trucks, and push carts. This is a great win, and it flew in right under the radar of the illegal alien lobby. “Isn’t the catcher, that smaller businesses doing under a certain dollar amount are NOT required to have a business license and that this is where most illegal aliens doing business would fall?”

Starry,

You are confusing the county rules with the City rules, and Business Licenses with Peddlers & Solicitors Licenses, which is easy to do because the old peddlers laws were contradictory. Every peddler (one who sells wares on public streets and sidewalks, or sells anything except locally grown produce from a non-retail establishment such as fireworks, Christmas trees) must have a license. This includes roach-coach type vehicles, Icecream trucks, Taco trucks, and push carts.

This is a great win, and it flew in right under the radar of the illegal alien lobby.

]]> By: starryflights http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63856 starryflights Sat, 03 May 2008 16:24:34 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63856 Isn't the catcher, that smaller businesses doing under a certain dollar amount are NOT required to have a business license and that this is where most illegal aliens doing business would fall? I think that ALL business owners should be required to have a business license. I don't care if the smallest businesses are given it for free. It would be a way to stop the illegal aliens from running businesses. Isn’t the catcher, that smaller businesses doing under a certain dollar amount are NOT required to have a business license and that this is where most illegal aliens doing business would fall? I think that ALL business owners should be required to have a business license. I don’t care if the smallest businesses are given it for free. It would be a way to stop the illegal aliens from running businesses.

]]> By: UnMasMexican http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63855 UnMasMexican Sat, 03 May 2008 16:11:29 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63855 Using Big Brother to attack the illegals? Some conservatives you all are! Using Big Brother to attack the illegals? Some conservatives you all are!

]]> By: legal2 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63851 legal2 Sat, 03 May 2008 15:48:22 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63851 Fingerprinting is an excellent idea. In California, they are even required at settlement on homes. Makes it much more difficult to walk away from a mortgage only to pick up another property with no-doc and different ID. Fingerprinting is an excellent idea. In California, they are even required at settlement on homes. Makes it much more difficult to walk away from a mortgage only to pick up another property with no-doc and different ID.

]]> By: Bob Wills http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63849 Bob Wills Sat, 03 May 2008 15:22:59 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63849 Dave Core said on 3 May 2008 at 10:31 am: I’m cautiously optimistic that this approach will prevent illegal aliens from peddling legally in the City. My Question: if the required documents are the same as required for employers to verify legal residence, then the same “document mills” that produce fake documents and retreaded SS#s, could produce the same for those seeking peddling license? Why not just require e-Verify? The e-Verify is an excelent thought for all counties and cities to use but why not require a biometric finger print verification done at the Jail to prove you are not someone else and not a criminal who is wanted as well. There are more then just the Latinos who need to be checked and why not keep these prints on file for future verification which could be done at the counter when they are renewed. It will be an inconvience but it would be effective Dave Core said on 3 May 2008 at 10:31 am:
I’m cautiously optimistic that this approach will prevent illegal aliens from peddling legally in the City. My Question: if the required documents are the same as required for employers to verify legal residence, then the same “document mills” that produce fake documents and retreaded SS#s, could produce the same for those seeking peddling license? Why not just require e-Verify?

The e-Verify is an excelent thought for all counties and cities to use but why not require a biometric finger print verification done at the Jail to prove you are not someone else and not a criminal who is wanted as well. There are more then just the Latinos who need to be checked and why not keep these prints on file for future verification which could be done at the counter when they are renewed. It will be an inconvience but it would be effective

]]> By: Dave Core http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63846 Dave Core Sat, 03 May 2008 14:31:15 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63846 I'm cautiously optimistic that this approach will prevent illegal aliens from peddling legally in the City. My Question: if the required documents are the same as required for employers to verify legal residence, then the same "document mills" that produce fake documents and retreaded SS#s, could produce the same for those seeking peddling license? Why not just require e-Verify? On the positive side, there's less an impetus to go throw this process just to have a street cart. This is a positive first step. Let's see what happens when the food van parked in G'town South shopping center reapplies for peddling permit. I’m cautiously optimistic that this approach will prevent illegal aliens from peddling legally in the City. My Question: if the required documents are the same as required for employers to verify legal residence, then the same “document mills” that produce fake documents and retreaded SS#s, could produce the same for those seeking peddling license? Why not just require e-Verify?

On the positive side, there’s less an impetus to go throw this process just to have a street cart. This is a positive first step. Let’s see what happens when the food van parked in G’town South shopping center reapplies for peddling permit.

]]> By: Big Dog http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63845 Big Dog Sat, 03 May 2008 14:01:09 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63845 Informative article in the early edition of Sunday's WaPo (May 4, 2008) about the rise of home sales in PWC and Manassas. "Metropolitan Regional Information Systems data show that the number of housing sales for Manassas was up 33 percent in March 2008 over March 2007." Yes, the number is off a low base and there are still hundreds of unsold homes, but the tide seems to be turning. Later on the article notes: "The cost is is what bought Joe Munsell from Springfield to Bristow ... Munsell said he was attracted to the value, the family-friendly neighborhood and Prince William's crackdown on illegal immigration, which he said is making the area safer." Informative article in the early edition of Sunday’s
WaPo (May 4, 2008) about the rise of home sales
in PWC and Manassas.

“Metropolitan Regional Information Systems data
show that the number of housing sales for Manassas
was up 33 percent in March 2008 over March 2007.”

Yes, the number is off a low base and there are
still hundreds of unsold homes, but the tide seems to
be turning.

Later on the article notes: “The cost is is what
bought Joe Munsell from Springfield to Bristow …
Munsell said he was attracted to the value, the
family-friendly neighborhood and Prince William’s
crackdown on illegal immigration, which he said
is making the area safer.”

]]> By: Not Alanna Almeda http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63843 Not Alanna Almeda Sat, 03 May 2008 13:43:21 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63843 Another win for HSM. Damn it all! Another win for HSM. Damn it all!

]]> By: ddpdrinker http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63841 ddpdrinker Sat, 03 May 2008 12:20:09 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63841 It's about time!!! Let's hope the City does not take another 1.5 years to get rid of that awful sign on Prince William Street. It’s about time!!! Let’s hope the City does not take another 1.5 years to get rid of that awful sign on Prince William Street.

]]> By: Bob S. http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63836 Bob S. Sat, 03 May 2008 09:03:53 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63836 Apparently, I've missed something in the FAQ's which would tell me how to handle quotes & links without dropping the remainder of my comment. Anyway, I'm glad the the obvious has become, well, obvious! Apparently, I’ve missed something in the FAQ’s which would tell me how to handle quotes & links without dropping the remainder of my comment.

Anyway, I’m glad the the obvious has become, well, obvious!

]]> By: Bob S. http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63835 Bob S. Sat, 03 May 2008 08:58:47 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/03/manassas-city-to-deny-commercial-licenses-to-illegal-aliens/#comment-63835 So, maybe I lost track somewhere in all of the excitement. What part of this wasn't covered last year?: >*>*> "Starting this week, the city of Manassas upped its requirements to obtain a business license... From Labor Day on, those contractors and subcontractors who want to do business in the city will need to provide one of 10 documents that establish both identity and residency..." http://www.apostille.us/news/city_gets_tough_on_business_licensing.shtml So, maybe I lost track somewhere in all of the excitement. What part of this wasn’t covered last year?:
>*>*>
“Starting this week, the city of Manassas upped its requirements to obtain a business license… From Labor Day on, those contractors and subcontractors who want to do business in the city will need to provide one of 10 documents that establish both identity and residency…”

http://www.apostille.us/news/city_gets_tough_on_business_licensing.shtml

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