Who Benefits From Cheap Illegal Alien Labor?
By Greg L | 8 May 2008 | Illegal Aliens, Crime | 71 Comments
Yesterday the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency netted thirty-three suspected illegal aliens working on the site of a federal courthouse in Richmond. Unfortunately, having federal taxpayer dollars used to pay the salaries of illegal aliens performing work on federal construction projects isn’t all that unusual. In January of 2007, eighteen illegal aliens were arrested while working on a construction project within the secure perimeter of Quantico Marine Corps Base. In April 2005, sixty-six illegal aliens were nabbed working on a federal courthouse construction project in Orlando, Florida, and in October 2003 sixty illegal aliens were arrested on a federal courthouse construction site in Miami, Florida. Your government at the federal, state and local levels may well be the biggest employer of illegal aliens in the country.
So it may be of little wonder that economists who advise governments on the illegal alien issue seem to make dire predictions about what would happen should illegal aliens be encouraged to return to their home countries. Without illegal aliens, who is going to build all the government buildings we need in the country? Actual citizens, like the ones who have been building these facilities for the past couple hundred years, some of whom don’t currently have jobs?
What even makes this more outrageous is when one of these economists happens to be on the Board of Directors of the company that just got raided for employing illegal aliens on a federal project yesterday. Yes, GMU economics professor Dr. Stephen S. Fuller, the same economist who recently opined that without illegal aliens unlawfully residing in Prince William County the local economy would collapse, has a financial interest in a company that just got busted for employing illegal aliens. No wonder he is pushing back on the idea that federal law actually deserves enforcement.
Who precisely is watching the henhouse these days? It’s looking more and more like those who have a financial interest in ensuring an endless supply of cheap illegal alien labor.
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Visit South Lakes High School in Reston in Fairfax County. The school is undergoing extensive expansion and renovations. I’ve been there early in the day when the workforce arrives. Vehicles loaded with Spanish-speaking men. The contractors are being paid with our property taxes.
Hey - I thought we wanted our federal government to cut spending? We didn’t really specify HOW they should go about doing that, now did we? The government has not tried to actively enforce immigration laws for the past decade. Why does this suprise us? Sounds like a little bit of George Bush trickeration is happening here.
Seriously though, it’s suprising to me that there is not some sort of GAO accounting/auditing effort that would catch this type of thing. I am probably assuming a level of competency and accountability that does not exist with our federal government.
You can go to ANY construction site and find illegal aliens working there. It’s been a few years, but doesn’t anyone remember how the stock values of home builders and large construction companies went through the roof? Their profitability came from cheap labor and exhorbitant prices. Consumers never saw any of those savings. Construction work is dominated by illegal alien labor.
I grew up in the midwest, and our high school used to have a vocational program to teach a building trade to those not interested in going to college. It doesn’t exist anymore at my school, and I doubt any program like that exists here. There aren’t many craftsmen left; it’s all OJT. The unions still offer good training programs for electricians, steamfitters, and other specialized areas, but outside of that there are not many Americans entering the construction trade. It just doesn’t pay enough because of the deflated wage caused by the flood of cheap unskilled illegal labor. Now you know why your roof leaks and the drywall seams in your house show.
You got that right, JFK. I worked my way through college by roofing during the summers, alongside of ex-cons and others that some would call the dregs of society. The monetary reward was ephemeral, but the social experience was permanent. The Illegal Invaders and c/s’s like Dr. Fuller have deprived our children of the possibility of that experience, as well as deprived them of the possibility of entering or even learning a construction trade. If I had to, I could build my own house right now from the ground up. Twenty years from now, I doubt if anyone similarly situated could make that same statement. The lasting effects of tolerating “those [illegals] who just keep their noses clean,” as Blue would say, will detract from the richness of our society for a long time to come. It’s not just about overcrowding and the trash in the streets, it’s about our cultural identity.
Advocator said on 8 May 2008 at 9:17 am:
It’s not just about overcrowding and the trash in the streets, it’s about our cultural identity.
This country won’t have any other cultural identity except Latino in 25-50 years unless we secure the border. Look at what is happening in Europe. Unless we secure our borders and deport the 20+ million INVADERS we will be downgraded to a 3rd world nation.
I just watched Fuller’s 9500 video again, I laughed.
Those that support illegal aliens are so smug, so condescending, like most that support illegal activity; display the “there’s no way I’ll get caught” mentality.
I deal with this in business, those that think they are smarter than the system–the rules, regs, laws only apply to the “stupid people”–so they’ll just continue to circumvent it…they’re the ones that always look so surprised when the security guys come to escort them out of the building…or better yet, on Wall Street when the Federal Agents show up to take them into custody and they see their entire life flash before their eyes…they fight like heck, harder than any “hardcore” criminal that knows the process because it’s not the first time they’ve been put into GENPOP.
Many warned Chief Deane to stop displaying arrogance and plead ignorance over his secret meetings. He has failed to do so. Fuller is a good example, we must assume that where there appears to be impropriety, without resolution, there is….
Reminds me of the old saying, “the bigger they are, the harder they fall.”
illegal aliens prey on lack of policy support, they exist because a system for ensuring accountability either does not exist or is not enforced. Remove those loopholes and hold businesses accountable for hiring them and they have no place to go but back home.
And the name of this company would be? There seems to be a disconnect between Dr. Fuller’s company and this story. Perhaps I missed it.
Dolph: Check out http://www.turnerconstruction.com/tompkins/content.asp?d=3909 and their Board of Directors.
Another interesting tidbit on that site about another Director of that company is, “Mr. Gordon, a former general counsel of the Washington Redskins, is a part owner of the Ashburn Ice House, and is the president of Loudoun Commercial Title, L.L.C.”
I wonder how many titles Mr. Gordon’s company issued to illegal invaders over the past few years.
Why shouldn’t the Govt’ use “free” labor from the incarcerated criminals (illegals exported of course) in jail and have them perform some of this menial labor? Not to have them building the place, but they could be used to clean the place, etc. under guard. Many illegals are used to perform “tote-and-bitch” jobs anyway. Beats having inmates just sitting watching cable and lifting weights all day being completely non-productive. What about all the kids that need summer jobs? I installed storm windows as a high-school kid and hated it, but it was easy summer money and I was outside all day.
KP: There are pretty strict laws about use of convict labor to protect against profiteering abuses, competition with labor unions, etc.
Companies love hiring illegals, and companies like Thomkins Builders love subcontracting to companies that hire them, because the illegals are exploited so easily. No health insurance to pay, no EEO and union grievances to contend with, no strikes, etc. Just hand a wad of money to their “jefe” and let ‘em work. The work gets done, so the owners (in this case, the Federal Government) are happy, the Illegals are happy, the construction company is happy. The only screwees in the process, are us, the citizens, who have to pay the tab for the infrastructure needed to house, educate, and doctor the illegal worker and his dependents, and of course our kids are deprived of the opportunity for summer work like you described. There’s no free lunch, and we’re paying through the nose for all those illegals who, as PW Blue calls, “just keep their noses clean.”
jfk 5/8 @ 9:03am
Everything can’t be blamed in illegal immigrants. What you say about vocational schools is correct; they were great for those who were smart but didn’t care to go on with “book studies”. There was no shame in going to voc.school and it usually lead to an apprenticeship and eventually a steady, wellpaying job after which, those who had the guts, could start their own business.
Advocator - If you had continued with your roofing, you might be the owner of a large roofing company by now making very good money.
Does anyone think that most parents today would be proud to say “yes, Joe is a brick layer (or mason), auto mechanic or plumber (where would we be without them?), master carpenter or electrician, etc.?” No, now parents want their kids to work on Wall Street, take pre-med or go to law school. Some are homeschooled where there’s no shop classes.
The jobs that make society work smoothly have lost status along the way and that’s NOT the fault of immigrants, legal or illegal. It started IMO with the fact that we didn’t have enough homegrown skilled workers who were willing to go through the training and time it takes to become a skilled craftsman, and many of those jobs are looked down upon.
In the 60s I lived in a tract in Palo Alto, Calif and the only resident with a Cadillac! was the PLUMBER. He made more than the doctors, scientists and Stanford professors in the tract.
One good thing about the illegals working for a government contractor is that, at least, they were paying taxes! In my too verbose comment, what I want to say is, to a certain extent we, ourselves, are guilty for what has happened.
Yesterday you blamed the presence of “illegals” at that worksite on Tim Kaine. Today you start off by acknowledging that it was “federal taxpayer [sic] dollars” funding the project (as was immediately clear to some of your commenters yesterday) — but you never mention that this means Kaine could have nothing to do with it! And by the end of your first paragraph you’re blaming things again on: “Your government at the federal, state and local levels…”
That shows no class. No intellectual honesty. Just bluster and conspiracy theories.
@Advocator: may I inquire how it is that working for a summer roofing among co-laborers who were born in Guatemala or Honduras would not be as much of a “social experience” as working with white ex-cons? I worked about a year on an all-white construction crew with guys from my same hometown in Va., including two forgers of other peoples’ checks, a child-support dodger, and one convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence. The latter often swore up and down that if our boss hired any “Mexicans” he would quit and go drive trucks for a living. All things considered, I’d rather have worked with some dudes who could’ve taught me some Spanish phrases and told me about the beaches and jungles in Central America, where I’d like to go visit one day if I can save up the $.
There’s no question that assimilation is tough, and I am not one of these people who thinks that “differing cultural values” should excuse violations of health regulations or zoning rules. But it takes character and determination to leave your home and go to live and work in a strange place filled with people like Greg here, who do a passable imitation of hating you.
I am more often than not disappointed with places like this website, that just pile up “evidence” of the problems with the “illegals,” without ever giving thought to the underlying economic conditions creating the phenomenon, or even attempting to view things from the immigrant’s (sorry, sorry: ILLEGAL ALIEN’s) position.
In a few short years we will be an third world country. What jobs cannot be exported are being taken by the millions of Mexicans pouring across our borders. Requiring the American still working to be taxed into poverty to provide medical care, educate their spawn, and provide welfare for them, while they breed like rabbits and Rob, Rape and Kill Americans by the 10,s of thousands!
Donald-you’re telling me that the governor of the Commonwealth would be helpless to have done something about illegal alien labor being exploited right under his nose? We get that this was a federal project. I think you vastly underestimate the power of the governor. Kaine has sat on his thumbs concerning this issue and has been content to simply say it’s someone else’s responsibilty. Other states have taken action and have begun to address this problem to fill the vacuum of federal responsibility. I have heard Kaine speak several times on WTOP, and his only comment on illegal immigration is that: 1) we should be concerned about the PWC resolution and other actions to prevent being considered “anti-immigrant” and 2) immigration enforcement is a federal issue, and there has been a failure of responsibility on the part of the current administration.
I also like how you assume every illegal laborer is a good soul that is only here for the money. Did you ever stop to think that a lot of ex-cons from other countries can’t get jobs in their homes because of their records, and come here to work? You are espousing the argument that all illegals are good, honest , hard working immigrants who just want to be Americans. Where is the character and determination to wait their turn in line and obey the laws of our country?
Donald: I agree that sweating toward a common goal with diverse types is an enriching experience, regardless of their race/ethnicity. I also agree with your implication that illegal aliens are not totally to blame for their overwhelming presence in this country. As Fred Reed [http://www.fredoneverything.net/FOE_Frame_Column.htm] says, we tell them “See this river? Don’t cross it. If you do, we’ll give you good jobs, a drivers license, citizenship for your kids born here and eventually for you, school for said kids, public assistance, governmental documents in Spanish for your convenience, and a much better future. There is no penalty for getting caught. Now, don’t cross this river, hear?”
It’s our own collective greed (by the Dr. Fullers of the country) and the insipid ignorance of the do-gooding liberals who make this country such an attractive alternative to the shitholes from whence most of the illegal aliens immigrate. I’ve worked shoulder to shoulder with Shona tribesman, Kuna Indians, Bedoins, and a whole slew of others you’d only know about if you’ve read National Geo for the last 30 years. I’ve got no problem with doing that. My problem is using the public fisc to subsidize the importation of cheap slave labor, and the consequent exploitation of those slaves. The “just keeping their noses clean” crowd does not comprehend this big picture, or, if they do, they avoid the facts because they’re profiting from the labor of illegals, at my expense.
I’ve really got no personal animus toward any immigrant, be they legal or illegal. That’s why I’ve stayed in my house while others (white flighters) sold out. Personally, I prefer most of the illegal aliens as neighbors to some of the American citizens who flew the coop. As you say, they’ve got character and determination. But there’s a bigger picture that involves sacrificing the rule of law, subsidizing illegal behavior, and destroying an economic wage structure that evolved over several generations. I can’t abide those consequences and will continue to do everything I can to discourage illegal aliens from coming to PWC, Virginia, and this country. If you and the fat broads on the anti site want to denigrate my name and reputation because I hold that position, have at it. It’s like water off a duck’s ass. At least I know I’m effective at some level .
Donald: I agree that sweating toward a common goal with diverse types is an enriching experience, regardless of their race/ethnicity. I also agree with your implication that illegal aliens are not totally to blame for their overwhelming presence in this country. As Fred Reed [http://www.fredoneverything.net/FOE_Frame_Column.htm] says, we tell them “See this river? Don’t cross it. If you do, we’ll give you good jobs, a drivers license, citizenship for your kids born here and eventually for you, school for said kids, public assistance, governmental documents in Spanish for your convenience, and a much better future. There is no penalty for getting caught. Now, don’t cross this river, hear?”
It’s our own collective greed (by the Dr. Fullers of the country) and the insipid ignorance of the do-gooding liberals who make this country such an attractive alternative to the shitholes from whence most of the illegal aliens immigrate. I’ve worked shoulder to shoulder with Shona tribesman, Kuna Indians, Bedoins, and a whole slew of others you’d only know about if you’ve read National Geo for the last 30 years. I’ve got no problem with doing that. My problem is using the public fisc to subsidize the importation of cheap slave labor, and the consequent exploitation of those slaves. The “just keeping their noses clean” crowd does not comprehend this big picture, or, if they do, they avoid the facts because they’re profiting from the labor of illegals, at my expense.
I’ve really got no personal animus toward any immigrant, be they legal or illegal. That’s why I’ve stayed in my house while others (white flighters) sold out. Personally, I prefer most of the illegal aliens as neighbors to some of the American citizens who flew the coop. As you say, they’ve got character and determination. But there’s a bigger picture that involves sacrificing the rule of law, subsidizing illegal behavior, and destroying an economic wage structure that evolved over several generations. I can’t abide those consequences and will continue to do everything I can to discourage illegal aliens from coming to PWC, Virginia, and this country. If you and the fat broads on the anti site want to denigrate my name and reputation because I hold that position, have at it. It’s like water off a duck’s behind. At least I know I’m being effective at some level .
Donald: I agree that sweating toward a common goal with diverse types is an enriching experience, regardless of their race/ethnicity. I also agree with your implication that illegal aliens are not totally to blame for their overwhelming presence in this country. As Fred Reed [http://www.fredoneverything.net/FOE_Frame_Column.htm] says, we tell them “See this river? Don’t cross it. If you do, we’ll give you good jobs, a drivers license, citizenship for your kids born here and eventually for you, school for said kids, public assistance, governmental documents in Spanish for your convenience, and a much better future. There is no penalty for getting caught. Now, don’t cross this river, hear?”
It’s our own collective greed (by the Dr. Fullers of the country) and the insipid ignorance of the do-gooding liberals who make this country such an attractive alternative to the shitholes from whence most of the illegal aliens immigrate. I’ve worked shoulder to shoulder with Shona tribesman, Kuna Indians, Bedoins, and a whole slew of others you’d only know about if you’ve read National Geo for the last 30 years. I’ve got no problem with doing that. My problem is using the public fisc to subsidize the importation of cheap slave labor, and the consequent exploitation of those slaves. The “just keeping their noses clean” crowd does not comprehend this big picture, or, if they do, they avoid the facts because they’re profiting from the labor of illegals, at my expense.
I’ve really got no personal animus toward any immigrant, be they legal or illegal. That’s why I’ve stayed in my house while others (white flighters) sold out. Personally, I prefer most of the illegal aliens as neighbors to some of the American citizens who flew the coop. As you say, they’ve got character and determination. But there’s a bigger picture that involves sacrificing the rule of law, subsidizing illegal behavior, and destroying an economic wage structure that evolved over several generations. I can’t abide those consequences and will continue to do everything I can to discourage illegal aliens from coming to PWC, Virginia, and this country. If you and the fat broads on the anti site want to denigrate my name and reputation because I hold that position, have at it. It’s like water off a duck’s ass. At least I know I’m effective at some level .
jfk said,
“1) we should be concerned about the PWC resolution and other actions to prevent being considered “anti-immigrant” and 2) immigration enforcement is a federal issue, and there has been a failure of responsibility on the part of the current administration.”
Isn’t that the same thing Big Frank in M.Park said? That infuriated me when he said that in a City Hall meeting not too long ago. The “We will do nothing” attitude just sucks and that will just make it harder for him to get re-elected.
thought you should be aware of this
by Mark W Lowry
Marxist New Life “Church” spreads in U.S
May 05, 2008 07:00 PM EST
Marxists who want to destroy US sovereignty changed tactics after failed attempts to pass amnesty legislation under the euphemism “comprehensive immigration reform.” They now use “Church” fronts to disguise their intent. The national Iglesia Nueva Vida (New Life Church) has been set up to promote Marxist invasion through local incorporated chapters of national mega churches.
Local “New Life†churches work with the Mexican Consulate offices to provide false identification papers to Mexican Illegal aliens. They sponsor Church events where the Mexican Consulate can pass out Matricula cards and passports.
Criminal employers, Banks and Chambers of commerce on local levels actively support these criminal felony activities.
These churches are primarily protestant “Christian” churches that propose communist or socialist liberation theology as the “new life” religion. They promote a one world church without borders, and political activism to rescue the oppressed around the world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_socialism “Christian socialism generally refers to those on the Christian left whose politics are both Christian and socialist and who see these two things as being interconnected. This category can include Liberation theology and the doctrine of the social gospel.”
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_theology “Liberation theology is a school of theology within Christianity, particularly in the Roman Catholic Church. Liberation theology focuses on Jesus Christ as not only the Redeemer but also the Liberator of the oppressed. It emphasizes the Christian mission to bring justice to the poor and oppressed, particularly through political activism.”
Local governments and particularly the criminal employers of Mexican Illegal aliens have promoted the spread of these churches with the aid of Mega Churches of many different protestant faiths. In many cases existing English speaking churches provide use of their church facilities for the new life churches to congregate.
This arrangement gives credibility and financial support to the Marxist political activity as they use their religious fronts to “convert” believers to their socialist philosophy. It seems the basic beliefs of these new life churches define Jesus as a Marxist socialist who worked to free the oppressed of the world.
Blasphemous use of Jesus and God to promote political activities is unconscionable under any circumstance. However, tyrannical governments have often used that tactic to gain a foothold in the population for control and ultimate destruction of the church itself. Adolf Hitler is one of the prime examples of this tactic. He was successful in getting the church to accept his murder of millions of victims without complaint.
Some of the New Life Churches use “Faith Healing” to promote membership that includes all races, all religions, sexual diversity and is only linked by the socialist mantra of Marxism.
Manchester, KY New Life Church http://www.topix.com/forum/city/manchester-ky/TOOB4H70LPR4RC1EA  Posted in the Manchester Forum Reply » #1
“Mar 17, 2008 Have you all heard about what happen at New Life Church last night? They had a girl get healed of complete deafness. It was Angie Smiths daughter in law.”
Asbury Seminary has a PDF version of their religious philosophy of no borders and need to address the religious needs of “transnationals.” www.asburyseminary.edu/_pdfs/news/twaa/Oct%2016-22.pdf
“Crossing Borders at Home
By Eunice Irwin and Christine Pohl “Recognizing the mass migrations occurring in our day, Kingdom Conference organizers have chosen the theme of Crossing Borders at Home for this year’s focus. Whether due to natural disasters, ethnic conflicts or urgent situations of
political or religious unrest, the movement of people from their homelands to places of asylum and resettlement is widespread. In addition, global economic forces arechanging long-established patterns of employment and causing massive displacements of workers . And today, along with refugees and immigrants coming to U.S. shores, another group has emerged— transnationals— people who find themselves living in two places on an ongoing basis, and who maintain vital connections with both cultures and nations.
These contemporary realities suggest that it is time to rethink some of our approaches to doing Kingdom work of mission, mercy and justice. Chapel topics for Kingdom
Conference week are arranged to follow a progression of thought on how we might respond to those persons who have recently come into our local communities.”
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All of these different protestant churches and seminaries are teaching the one world gospel of the Mega Churches and the global corporations behind the drive to eliminate sovereign nations. They naively suggest mass migration is a phenomenon that exists on its own without the aid of corrupt government politicians who desire one world government to control. They fail to understand nothing in politics happens that is not planned. Corrupt governments conspiring with international corporate cartels and Marxist leaders intend to control all the people of the world by controlling the world economy and in turn the one world government.
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The new life churches are either knowingly complicit in this conspiracy or  obviously lack the political acumen to understand dynamics of the Marxist revolution assisted with financial aid of international corporations and criminal politicians, most of whom are atheists.
The New Life Church is preaching the need to create a new “Tower of Babel.” The new life church faith is based on a Humanist religious theory more than a worship of God. God spread the people of the world over the earth as he created new and different languages.
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Genesis 11 King James Version http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=1&chapter=11&version=9
 1And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.  2And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.  3And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter.  4And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
 5And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.  6And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.  7Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech. 8So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.
 9Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.
“Babylon becomes, in history, the fountainhead of false religion in the Post-Flood world. The city Babylon and Iraq figure in Biblical prophecies connected with the end of the age. “Mystery Babylon” is an even more theme in Bible prophecy. Revelation 17-18 depicts God’s final judgment of world religion plus world commerce and trade since these man-made systems have sprung from the source rebellion of Nimrod and Babel.†http://ldolphin.org/babel.html
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God will destroy the one world order that defies his rule.
Revelation 18 King James Version http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2017-18%20&version=9 Â 1And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. 2And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. Â 3For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
New Life Churches are neither Churches nor Christian. They worship Marxism not God. Corrupt Marxist treasonous local governments like Sanctuary City Lexington Kentucky have provided this false communist front church group financial and in kind aid to help destroy our nation.
In Lexington Kentucky a complete park is designated as the “Mexican park” where Marxist religious beliefs are preached on publicly owned property. All other faiths are excluded from this privilege because they obviously do not have the same political agenda as the treasonous Marxists.
Lexington Kentucky Marxists choose to destroy only one of the city’s parks instead of all of them. They send a church from another part of town Iglesia Nueva Vida Addison Avenue that is located by a neighborhood park to the Mexican Park on Cambridge Drive for their religious services. These corrupt communist local officials think Marxist use of public property is all right in the Mexican Park.
Illegal use of government property for religious services is going on across the nation as Marxist liberation theology spreads. These false prophets worship the Marxist political movement and forget their duty to worship our God and Jesus Christ.
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Politicization of our religious beliefs and our publicly owned property for communist purposes is about as low as our government can go, however we the People can rest assured they will go further down the path of corruption to satisfy their greed for money and power.
Donald said on 8 May 2008 at 11:15 am:
All things considered, I’d rather have worked with some dudes who could’ve taught me some Spanish phrases and told me about the beaches and jungles in Central America, where I’d like to go visit one day if I can save up the $.
These people are scrambling to get out of their home countries and you want to pay to go there? These “dudes” could teach you a lot…..how to steal people’s identies, forge documents, how to lie and cheat to get to the front of the line. Yes, you go ahead and spend your money and enjoy your time on the Mexican beaches with your Corona and your chica at your side. ENJOY, while the rest of us have to put up with overcrowding, trashed houses and Mexican and Central American gangs.
Here’s a cool Spanish phrase they could have taught you:
Viva la Raza!
Superior Paving Company, the guys working on I-66 improvements, is headed for serious trouble. Their workforce is mostly illegals. Talk about violating the law for all the world to see! I wonder if the company executives are contemplating all the “down time” they may face . . . in jail. Company executives now face huge fines AND jail time for hiring illegal aliens. US citizens are deprived of good-paying construction jobs when VDOT hires such firms.
Apparently the Chamber of Commerce benefits….
Just had the minutes from their last public policy committee meeting forwarded to me…John Gray chaired the meeting and throughout the minutes they talk about taking steps to “pressure” our “legislators” to re-fund the unconstitutional NVTA plan and Carlos Castro says they should “pressure” the Supervisors to do away with the ROLR.
Isn’t “pressure” the term the Mob uses for “extort?” That meeting happened well before Principi pulled his prank, wonder how much money he made from this?
Carlos Castro, owner of the “Todos Supermercado” de Hoodbridge? Next he’ll be calling for the Illegal Invaders’ shock troops (MS-13) to attack.
Advocator said on 8 May 2008 at 2:08 pm:
Carlos Castro, owner of the “Todos Supermercado” de Hoodbridge? Next he’ll be calling for the Illegal Invaders’ shock troops (MS-13) to attack.
Seems to me I read something about him being an ILLEGAL ALIEN at one time from El Selfadore and gained legalization under one of the amnestys. He opened the supermarket and stands to loose if his illegal buddies leave town. Sure he wants pressure to recind the resolution. Anyone got any more info on his legal/illegal background?
US Citizen said on 8 May 2008 at 1:32 pm:
US citizens are deprived of good-paying construction jobs when VDOT hires such firms.
A few months ago the WP did an article on two illegal brothers who admitted they are ILLEGAL and working for VDOT. Said if they got deported they would get a free trip back to MEXICO and after their vacation at home, would be back here working again. VDOT denied hiring them and said they were sub-contractors. If you don’t personally hire them, they can’t come after you and there is also the out……well their papers looked okay.
Che’ said on 8 May 2008 at 12:52 pm:
Here’s a cool Spanish phrase they could have taught you:
Viva la Raza!
Don’t use a razor. Have full beard!
Marty Nohe is a member of the Chamber of Commerce. Any one see a conflict of interest?
“Does anyone think that most parents today would be proud to say “yes, Joe is a brick layer (or mason), auto mechanic or plumber (where would we be without them?), master carpenter or electrician, etc.?”
Yes Krutis…I’m proud. My father was a bricklayer (and LEGAL immigrant) who became a successful masonry contractor very early in his career. Although my daughter is an honors student currently studying in England at the University of Reading, my son chose to go to technical school and is currently well on his way to becoming a master mechanic…and I’ve very proud of both of them. We (my husband and I) encouraged our children to choose career paths that would give them satisfaction and make them happy to roll out of bed in the morning when they were going off to their jobs. Your presumption is that all parents think as you do…we don’t.
Correction: I’M very proud of both of them.
Northern VA Community College still teaches such trades as Welding, Auto Mechanics, Air Conditioning, and Construction technology. Don’t know how well these programs are going, but I would only assume that if they constantly offer them, then someone is attending and getting some sort of certification.
I wonder if VA offers assistance to illegals to attend NOVA classes?
AWCheney - I think that’s great! Your son will always have a job; mechanics are wanted everywhere, as are hair dressers, nurses, chefs…. Hope you noticed that I said “most parents” = not ALL.
As for your father, I believe that generation was proud of their workmanship in whatever field they were engaged, and they got appreciation and even admiration for a job well done. Nowadays, many people don’t even know what a QUALITY job is. Besides, your father had the joy of being able to actually SEE the result of his labor; a beautiful fireplace or a bricked in patio. And his children could also see the results. Now, if a kid asks mom and dad: “What did you do at the office?” they don’t have much to show. Again, I’m not saying ALL moms and dads.
Like you, I believe that being happy in your job is very important. It makes for a good mate and for a kinder outlook on life in general.
Krutis said on 8 May 2008 at 3:24 pm:
Still haven’t seen any comment by you on the Che poster and Cuban flag in Obamarama’s campaign office.
KP said on 8 May 2008 at 3:20 pm:
I wonder if VA offers assistance to illegals to attend NOVA classes?
I believe they do for anchor babies.
KP said on 8 May 2008 at 3:20 pm:
Anonymous said on 8 May 2008 at 4:54 pm:
KP said on 8 May 2008 at 3:20 pm:
I wonder if VA offers assistance to illegals to attend NOVA classes?
I believe they do for anchor babies.
YES THEY DO. See below web site.
http://chronicle.com/news/article/2942/va-lawmakers-propose-banning-college-admission-of-illegal-immigrants
999 - FYI - “Anchor babies” are American citizens, as far as I know!
999 @ 4:52pm
You must be in your cups. “Krutis said on 8 May 2008 at 3:24pm” Krutis at 3:24pm was writing to and about AWCheney, her dad and son plus vocational education. What the dang are you TALKING about? Cuban flags!
Which is why they need to go after the contractor who is hiring these people. They are coming here, and staying because we have people who circumvent banking and payroll laws - they are the real criminals.
So the whole construction industry, all those businesses, are liberal?
What about the Camber of commerce are they liberal too?
dale city said “So the whole construction industry, all those businesses, are liberal?
What about the Camber of commerce are they liberal too?”
Not liberal, greedy.
Ey gringo, you don’t like my poster?
Illegal aliens work daily as cleaners, painters and mowers at a Federal site in Manassas. I can’t tell you the location (confidentiality agreement) but they are present each day.
Anonymous might want to enlighten me as to how he/she knows the cleaners, painters, and mowers at a federal site in Manassas are illegal aliens. Are the feds now forcing them to wear a sign on their person or what?
Krutis said on 8 May 2008 at 5:17 pm:
999 - FYI - “Anchor babies” are American citizens, as far as I know!
Unfortunately, the law as it stands recognizes them as such even though they are children of ILLEGALS.
No, not in my cups. You asked a question about Obamarama signs, I provided you a link and it appears you chose to ignore it. Selective reading??
Krutis said on 8 May 2008 at 5:22 pm:
999 @ 4:52pm
You must be in your cups. “Krutis said on 8 May 2008 at 3:24pm” Krutis at 3:24pm was writing to and about AWCheney, her dad and son plus vocational education. What the dang are you TALKING about? Cuban flags!
999 said on 8 May 2008 at 4:52 pm:
Krutis said on 8 May 2008 at 3:24 pm:
Still haven’t seen any comment by you on the Che poster and Cuban flag in Obamarama’s campaign office.
999 said on 5 May 2008 at 3:23 pm:
Krutis said on 5 May 2008 at 7:25 am:
Why did you expect Obama signs? Are you trying to connect him to communism somehow? I abhor communists and their ways of infiltrating groups, but I haven’t read or heard anything about Obama having ANYTHING o do wih communism. Have you, fidelio?
Here’s the new video from YouTube. Of course Obamarama denies responsibility (he didn’t personally put it up.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VRCeBSOOEM
Above post is for KRUTIS.
found this on wake up america Is this legal?
California Super Delegate Wants $20 Million for His Vote
Posted on May 7, 2008 by Mr Pink Eyes
The Democrat’s life theory is catching up with them. They believe in the idea that there are no winners and losers, as in children’s sporting events where there is no score kept because if a child loses he will be scarred for life. Instead of teaching a child that sometimes things don’t go your way the child is sheltered from any adversity and when as an adult adversity hits they have no idea how to handle it. This mindset has crept into more aspects of everyday life. In some schools teachers aren’t allowed to grade in red because red is a very traumatising color, they are using the less daunting purple pen to grade children.
So you may be asking why I said that their life theory is catching up with them and I will now explain. It is this very theory of there can be no losers that has lead to the loser of a primary state still getting delegates. Sure a candidate was second winner, not a loser, so he/she deserves some delegate right? That is a perfect example of what this liberal mindset has produced.
But there is another aspect, a dark aspect, that the Democrats nomination process has created the possibility of. This problem lies in the super delegates. Party insiders who are going to decide the Democrat nominee. It can never be good when party hacks can decide who should be their candidate and this shows us why. It opens up the door for corruption, backroom deals, and big money to be thrown around.
Steven Ybarra, a Democrat super delegate from California, has not endorsed either candidate yet. And he isn’t going to either, until someone gives him $20 million for his endorsement. How is that for morals? This man doesn’t care about either candidates stance on any issues, he will sell his vote to whoever promises him $20 million first. He has promised that he can deliver over one million new Mexican-American voters for that $20 million bribe. All a candidate has to do is show the Mexicans how much he/she “cares” about them by delivering the bribe.
Money has corrupted politics, and the Democrat primary system is not helping the problem. It is making it worse. How can a candidate promise to bring change to Washington if they are willing to bribe a super delegate for a vote? How can a candidate promise a more open and honest administration if they are willing to bribe a super delegate for a vote? How can a candidate be trusted to be fiscally responsible if they are willing to bribe a supre delegate for a vote?
If a person is willing to do this for one vote, what will the same person do for many votes?
999 - 9:49pm
If children of illegals are illegals by happenstance of birth, does it then follow that children of felons are born felons?
As for your 10:00pm belabored comment - I don’t understand what you mean. Furthermore, I can’t listen to u-tube on my computer - kaputt! So, you believe Obama is a communist? Really? How would he benefit?
Bedtime!
americangal4ever said on 8 May 2008 at 11:08 pm:
found this on wake up america Is this legal?
California Super Delegate Wants $20 Million for His Vote
Fortunately, according to CNN (Lou Dobbs,) neither Democratic candidate will touch this situation (or so they say.)
My sister works at NoVaCoCo. She says it’s infested with illegal aliens and Muslims (who may be here illegally).
As far as I’m concerned, an anchor baby is a citizen in name only. A CINO.
There’s no such thing as “citizen in name only”. Either you ARE or you are NOT a citizen.
Sort of like the old saying: “She’s just a little bit pregnant.”
Krutis said on 8 May 2008 at 11:16 pm:
999 - 9:49pm
I didn’t say that. I was just pointing out the fact that his campagn office in Houston has/had a poster of Che Gueverra and a Cuban flag attached to the wall. My last information was that Che and the country of Cuba are communist in name and ideology. Read your original post about communists. You asked a question(s) and I gave you a response. bye bye
They only come here to do the jobs Americans won’t. Check this animal out:
http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/05/10-year-old-giv.html?csp=34
Che Guevera was a Marxist Bastard who deserved what he got…left unchecked, er assassinated, his actions would have destabilized this entire hemisphere…I’ve spent a lot of time debunkiing his garbage published in “guerilla warfare”…having seen the effects of this crap on societies and economies firsthand anyone that worships this man and his dribble is enemy #1 in my mind…
Tom:
One thing I’ve never tried that’s in his book is using a shotgun and a broom stick as a launcher for a molotov cocktail. Does it work? Seems like it would in principle.
How much of the Cartel drug money is finding its way into our open Borders politicians pockets! Beside our tax money that supports the Racist hate organization La Raza how much Drug cartel money support their open borders and reconquesto policy? The Million of Mexicans and other Latinos pouring across our Borders are bringing the same Corruption, Crime, Poverty and Misery to this Nation as is normal there. The beliefs and attitudes that created Latin Americans cesspools does not stop at the Border but being effectively created all across American
Bl: we’ll never know as long as high ranking government (albeit local in our recent experience) officials continue to have secret meetings with government officials from corrupt countries and refuse to account for what was said or where the meeting took place.
Advocator: it’s been a while so I don’t recall that technique. I’ll dig my copy out today and see if it jars any memory…
Bl said on 9 May 2008 at 9:24 am:
The beliefs and attitudes that created Latin Americans cesspools does not stop at the Border but being effectively created all across America.
As Vincinte Fox said…….”where there is a Mexican, there is Mexico.”)
Tom Ridge said on 9 May 2008 at 9:20 am:
Che Guevera was a Marxist Bastard
You might be interested in reading this declassified report on Che”.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB5/index.html
Vigilant1: thanks…you’ve really got to HAND it to ‘ol Che, chuckle…the lore I was always provided said we only took his fingers, not entire hands, interesting, didn’t know major case prints were used that often back then…any older cops/spooks out there confirm/deny this? So much cleaner these days, I hear the DNA came back negative on the guy claiming to be al-Masri?
# Dolph said on 8 May 2008 at 9:38 pm:
Anonymous might want to enlighten me as to how he/she knows the cleaners, painters, and mowers at a federal site in Manassas are illegal aliens. Are the feds now forcing them to wear a sign on their person or what?
Fake ID’s and multiples of each (I have been trained to spot them), no birth certificates provided but allowed in under contractor exemption, no English…..I could go on and on. I know quite a bit more about it than you, I guarantee. Most are supervised, and as long as they are a blind eye is turned toward the practice.
Anonymous said on 10 May 2008 at 8:31 am:
# Dolph said on 8 May 2008 at 9:38 pm:
Anonymous might want to enlighten me as to how he/she knows the cleaners, painters, and mowers at a federal site in Manassas are illegal aliens. Are the feds now forcing them to wear a sign on their person or what?
Now she knows! Hope she make note of it for future reference.
Anon:
Please consider letting Greg know about the location these people are working. He has the ability to investigate without you being further involved. Let’s get this taken care of.
It’s common these days among the ignorant to just blame the employers. The fact is that employers are only required to complete and retain a form and to check documents. Said documents can be easily forged and are available on street corners in most major cities and in many small towns throughout America and are of sufficient quality to fool the naked eye. Employers are not required to check the validity of these documents, only to review them.
An employer who completes and retains the required form is difficult to prosecute. The raids against Swift & Co and Pilgrims Pride didn’t net any high level people. When they nailed Walmart a few years ago it took court approved wire taps to get the evidence. Look who’s getting hauled off to jail, some scum bag subcontractor.
It’s not that simple to prosecute the employers. People that think otherwise really need to be educated on this issue.
El Guapo,
You have just justified our position to remove illegal immigrants from this country. You freely admit the crimes committed by people you have portrayed as honest and hard working.
GTC, I’ve never portrayed anyone as honest and hard working. I have on numerous occassions argued against the ignorant who wish to demonize business owners.
Dan Cooper
Scary to know that Greg has the ability to investigate “without you being further involved. Let’s get this get taken care of.”
Is Greg a licensed private investigator? What secret means of investigation does he have? It’s worrysome IMO.
Krutis, it is only out of respect for your age that I do not post the remark which is crossing my mind right at this moment.
Old age gives tough skin along with wrinkles. Go ahead, AWC! Let me have it.