Comments on: National Park Gun-Free Zones To End Soon? http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/09/national-park-gun-free-zones-to-end-soon/ Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics. Thu, 24 May 2012 03:53:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: Todd http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/09/national-park-gun-free-zones-to-end-soon/#comment-68126 Todd Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:16:42 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/09/national-park-gun-free-zones-to-end-soon/#comment-68126 I'm a PA resident and every time I encounter a bear or some AT-through-hiker muttering to himself I am reminded of this ridiculous bullsh*t. If I can carry a gun into the supermarket for self-defense, why can't I carry one into the woods where my wife and I are in potentially greater danger? I’m a PA resident and every time I encounter a bear or some AT-through-hiker muttering to himself I am reminded of this ridiculous bullsh*t. If I can carry a gun into the supermarket for self-defense, why can’t I carry one into the woods where my wife and I are in potentially greater danger?

]]> By: Dolph http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/09/national-park-gun-free-zones-to-end-soon/#comment-64472 Dolph Sun, 11 May 2008 04:42:17 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/09/national-park-gun-free-zones-to-end-soon/#comment-64472 OOppps that was TO Citizen 12's response at 1:33 am OOppps that was TO Citizen 12’s response at 1:33 am

]]> By: Dolph http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/09/national-park-gun-free-zones-to-end-soon/#comment-64471 Dolph Sun, 11 May 2008 04:41:23 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/09/national-park-gun-free-zones-to-end-soon/#comment-64471 Citizen 12 said on 10 May 2008 at 1:33 am, Thank you for the information. It doesn't appear that there would be a problem. There are several other issues that arise from that park covering three states. Bizarre facts and things. Citizen 12 said on 10 May 2008 at 1:33 am,

Thank you for the information. It doesn’t appear that there would be a problem. There are several other issues that arise from that park covering three states. Bizarre facts and things.

]]> By: Dan Cooper http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/09/national-park-gun-free-zones-to-end-soon/#comment-64435 Dan Cooper Sat, 10 May 2008 17:41:58 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/09/national-park-gun-free-zones-to-end-soon/#comment-64435 For those that may be interested; locally offered classes will allow qualified Virginia residents to acquire both Virginia and Utah ccw's, which allows them to carry handguns concealed in 32 or more states currently. Here is a link to a good current pdf list. http://www.nraila.org/recmap/Recguide.pdf Hopefully this new law change will make honest people of those of us who have for years been visiting park lands carrying concealed already. For those that may be interested; locally offered classes will allow qualified Virginia residents to acquire both Virginia and Utah ccw’s, which allows them to carry handguns concealed in 32 or more states currently.
Here is a link to a good current pdf list.
http://www.nraila.org/recmap/Recguide.pdf

Hopefully this new law change will make honest people of those of us who have for years been visiting park lands carrying concealed already.

]]> By: Red, White and Blue http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/09/national-park-gun-free-zones-to-end-soon/#comment-64421 Red, White and Blue Sat, 10 May 2008 13:47:00 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/09/national-park-gun-free-zones-to-end-soon/#comment-64421 The federal government, by code and law, are the most restrictive area(s) regulating firearms for civilians. While politicians on the right clamor for less gun control, they do not support those same rights on federal property, which, by the Constitution, are "the people's" property. Can you imagine crossing the 14th Street Bridge and walking down Constitution Avenue with your firearm? Apparently as one walked across the bridge and was "legal" in Virginia, become a dire criminal element on the other side of the Potomac. Must be the water or the air - or the politicians who criminalize all of us for doing nothing different (or wrong) from one side of the river to the other. Same goes for the Parks, Post Offices and other Federal buildings. I am aware of some folks who are upset with guns and even conceal permit holders but the Amendments apply across the board. The Second Amendment should apply to Federal property and territory as well. The federal government, by code and law, are the most restrictive area(s) regulating firearms for civilians. While politicians on the right clamor for less gun control, they do not support those same rights on federal property, which, by the Constitution, are “the people’s” property. Can you imagine crossing the 14th Street Bridge and walking down Constitution Avenue with your firearm? Apparently as one walked across the bridge and was “legal” in Virginia, become a dire criminal element on the other side of the Potomac. Must be the water or the air - or the politicians who criminalize all of us for doing nothing different (or wrong) from one side of the river to the other. Same goes for the Parks, Post Offices and other Federal buildings.

I am aware of some folks who are upset with guns and even conceal permit holders but the Amendments apply across the board. The Second Amendment should apply to Federal property and territory as well.

]]> By: Citizen 12 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/09/national-park-gun-free-zones-to-end-soon/#comment-64412 Citizen 12 Sat, 10 May 2008 05:33:03 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/09/national-park-gun-free-zones-to-end-soon/#comment-64412 The current regulations, since 1984, only require you to keep your gun unloaded and in the trunk - so it can't help you unless your attacked in your trunk. The oposistion is trying to say poaching and other crime is somehow going to escalate because the same law abiding citizens can now take them out of their trunk and keep them on their person. When it comes down to it my personal opinion is that the only "permit" you should really need is the Constitution. The second amendment is only to underscore it for those who did not get it the first time. the following information from: http://www.fleoa.org/Legislative/LegDocs/LawEnforcementOfficersSafetyAct/ConcealedCarry.htm 1. Wyoming offers Concealed Carry Weapons licenses to residents and recognizes CCW Licenses issued by Alabama, Alaska, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Utah, Michigan, Mississippi, Montana, North Dakota, Oklahoma and South Carolina. 6 . Idaho issues licenses and recognizes CCW Licenses from 39 other states 11. Montana issues licenses and has limited reciprocity with CCW permits issued by Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia and Wyoming. The current regulations, since 1984, only require you to keep your gun unloaded and in the trunk - so it can’t help you unless your attacked in your trunk. The oposistion is trying to say poaching and other crime is somehow going to escalate because the same law abiding citizens can now take them out of their trunk and keep them on their person.

When it comes down to it my personal opinion is that the only “permit” you should really need is the Constitution. The second amendment is only to underscore it for those who did not get it the first time.

the following information from:
http://www.fleoa.org/Legislative/LegDocs/LawEnforcementOfficersSafetyAct/ConcealedCarry.htm

1. Wyoming offers Concealed Carry Weapons licenses to residents and recognizes CCW Licenses issued by Alabama, Alaska, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Utah, Michigan, Mississippi, Montana, North Dakota, Oklahoma and South Carolina.

6 . Idaho issues licenses and recognizes CCW Licenses from 39 other states

11. Montana issues licenses and has limited reciprocity with CCW permits issued by Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia and Wyoming.

]]> By: Anchor Baby http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/09/national-park-gun-free-zones-to-end-soon/#comment-64403 Anchor Baby Sat, 10 May 2008 01:40:31 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/09/national-park-gun-free-zones-to-end-soon/#comment-64403 My hope is that DOI will listen to the majority of the US Senate and to VCDL and make a change consistant with the gun laws of the state the park is in. My hope is that DOI will listen to the majority of the US Senate and to VCDL and make a change consistant with the gun laws of the state the park is in.

]]> By: es_la_ley http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/09/national-park-gun-free-zones-to-end-soon/#comment-64392 es_la_ley Fri, 09 May 2008 22:46:48 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/09/national-park-gun-free-zones-to-end-soon/#comment-64392 Related... There is/was(?) a bill afoot to force each state to recognize the conceal carry laws of every other state. http://www.nwaonline.net/articles/2008/04/15/news/041508dcgunrecip.txt The words "snowball's chance in hell" comes to mind, but I'll keep an eye out for it. Related…

There is/was(?) a bill afoot to force each state to recognize the conceal carry laws of every other state.

http://www.nwaonline.net/articles/2008/04/15/news/041508dcgunrecip.txt

The words “snowball’s chance in hell” comes to mind, but I’ll keep an eye out for it.

]]> By: Dolph http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/09/national-park-gun-free-zones-to-end-soon/#comment-64379 Dolph Fri, 09 May 2008 20:14:22 +0000 http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/09/national-park-gun-free-zones-to-end-soon/#comment-64379 What would happen in a park like Yellowstone that covers three states: Montana, Wyoming and a small sliver of Idaho? Surely all three don't have the same gun laws? What would happen in a park like Yellowstone that covers three states: Montana, Wyoming and a small sliver of Idaho? Surely all three don’t have the same gun laws?

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