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	<title>Comments on: Shooting At Global Foods</title>
	<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/</link>
	<description>Blog-Fu for Prince William, Manassas and Manassas Park politics.</description>
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		<title>By: James Young</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-65024</link>
		<dc:creator>James Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 20:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-65024</guid>
		<description>So it's OK when government lies to you?  Sorry, but we'll have to agree to disagree on that one.  Withholding facts for national security purposes (failure to reveal the extent of the disaster at Pearl Harbor comes to mind) is one thing; naked lies is another thing entirely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it&#8217;s OK when government lies to you?  Sorry, but we&#8217;ll have to agree to disagree on that one.  Withholding facts for national security purposes (failure to reveal the extent of the disaster at Pearl Harbor comes to mind) is one thing; naked lies is another thing entirely.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter G.</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-65020</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 20:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-65020</guid>
		<description>James,
I disagree.  If they plan ahead I am sure they can come together with the police dept. to have some sort of alert set up when necessary.  As far as getting truthful information, how do the police know who was calling?  Something needs to be set up ahead of time, just like calls to the media for school closings.  The school needs to take the lead on this, the safety of the children is in their hands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,<br />
I disagree.  If they plan ahead I am sure they can come together with the police dept. to have some sort of alert set up when necessary.  As far as getting truthful information, how do the police know who was calling?  Something needs to be set up ahead of time, just like calls to the media for school closings.  The school needs to take the lead on this, the safety of the children is in their hands.</p>
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		<title>By: James Young</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64952</link>
		<dc:creator>James Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 13:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64952</guid>
		<description>Greg doesn't like it when I respond in kind when the [redacted] decides to engage in name-calling, "Peter G."  It's rather entertaining, actually, since he never bothers to "clean up" her belittling appellations.  Draw your own conclusions about that double-standard.

Suffice it to say that I'm quite calm.  I calmly respond with plain-speaking when people attempt by artifice and implication what might get them in trouble if plainly said.  I hear that some think such "straight talk" (or pretensions to it) is popular in the GOP lately, though my impression is that it's just an effort to couch closet Liberalism in media-acceptable terms, an effort to put lipstick on a pig, if you will.

In any case, my point is that you fail to recognize WHERE the problem lies: the MAPS administration didn't get truthful information upon reasonable inquiry to the PWCPD.  And that's a problem that they lack the authority or ability to "fix."

[Ed note: comment edited.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg doesn&#8217;t like it when I respond in kind when the [redacted] decides to engage in name-calling, &#8220;Peter G.&#8221;  It&#8217;s rather entertaining, actually, since he never bothers to &#8220;clean up&#8221; her belittling appellations.  Draw your own conclusions about that double-standard.</p>
<p>Suffice it to say that I&#8217;m quite calm.  I calmly respond with plain-speaking when people attempt by artifice and implication what might get them in trouble if plainly said.  I hear that some think such &#8220;straight talk&#8221; (or pretensions to it) is popular in the GOP lately, though my impression is that it&#8217;s just an effort to couch closet Liberalism in media-acceptable terms, an effort to put lipstick on a pig, if you will.</p>
<p>In any case, my point is that you fail to recognize WHERE the problem lies: the MAPS administration didn&#8217;t get truthful information upon reasonable inquiry to the PWCPD.  And that&#8217;s a problem that they lack the authority or ability to &#8220;fix.&#8221;</p>
<p>[Ed note: comment edited.]</p>
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		<title>By: Peter G.</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64936</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 10:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64936</guid>
		<description>James,
Looks like GL had to clean up your last post.  Calm down, this is just a discussion, don't lose your mind.  I was making a statement about winners and losers, you can decide who goes in what catagory.  If I have a problem I do something about it, I fix the problem.  The school administration has to fix the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,<br />
Looks like GL had to clean up your last post.  Calm down, this is just a discussion, don&#8217;t lose your mind.  I was making a statement about winners and losers, you can decide who goes in what catagory.  If I have a problem I do something about it, I fix the problem.  The school administration has to fix the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Dolph</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64919</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 00:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64919</guid>
		<description>me-n-u,

Try telling that to a kid in PWC.  You will quickly be corrected, as I was.  There are different expectations with 'shelter in place' and lockdown.  I had to hear about it in full detail yesterday.  I guess that is a good thing that someone listens at that age.  For the record, I agreed with your assessment of matters until my attitude was adjusted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>me-n-u,</p>
<p>Try telling that to a kid in PWC.  You will quickly be corrected, as I was.  There are different expectations with &#8217;shelter in place&#8217; and lockdown.  I had to hear about it in full detail yesterday.  I guess that is a good thing that someone listens at that age.  For the record, I agreed with your assessment of matters until my attitude was adjusted.</p>
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		<title>By: Skeptimaniac</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64912</link>
		<dc:creator>Skeptimaniac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 22:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64912</guid>
		<description>I did call into MCPD a long while back and was told they were very busy. A bicycle stolen from my son was seen at Osborn High. I told the dispatcher that I was going over to the school (it was after regular school hours) wtih my 8mm and I would confront whomever got on the bike. By the time I got to the school lot a police cruiser was there. 
My 8mm was the cam-corder I had at that time. But just the same it got the response I was looking for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did call into MCPD a long while back and was told they were very busy. A bicycle stolen from my son was seen at Osborn High. I told the dispatcher that I was going over to the school (it was after regular school hours) wtih my 8mm and I would confront whomever got on the bike. By the time I got to the school lot a police cruiser was there.<br />
My 8mm was the cam-corder I had at that time. But just the same it got the response I was looking for.</p>
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		<title>By: James Young</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64897</link>
		<dc:creator>James Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 17:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64897</guid>
		<description>Greg, the only problem with your scenario is that they'll be there to arrest YOU, because of Caller ID.

Patty, thanks for the support.

You have to understand that the [redacted] will take any opportunity to attack me, even when she is removing all doubt (you know the old saw, "Better to remain silent and though a fool than to speak up and remove all doubt").  It doesn't matter whether I've satisfied any of her "standards," because she has none.  To the extent that she espouses any, they're all of convenience, like any power-hungry political hack, to be discarded if no longer useful.  Remember a few weeks ago, when Hitlary became the champion of gun owners and the faithful?  Same principle at work.

Witness the contradiction: according to the [redacted], my "ego does not allow [me] to admit when [I am wrong about anything."  What does she quote to support this assertion?  A quotation where I admit my error!?!?!

Witness her silence in the face of "Peter G.'s" name-calling.  She has said in the past that she opposes it, yet engages in it herself and remains silent when others do it, so long as it is directed at the right target.

Witness her failure to recognize the difference between major and minor facts.  She quibbles because I misidentified the shopping center (one in apparently close proximately to the site of the actual shooting) and the distance to the school (1/2 as opposed to a full mile).  Now, I suppose that if I had identified the shopping center as Potomac Mills or Tysons Corner (what is that, 10 or 15 miles difference?), the [redacted] might have a point.  The important facts are that: (1) there was a shooting; (2) it was in close proximity --- a few minutes' driving distance --- to an unwarned school; and (3) the suspect remained at large.

'Course, the bright side is, the [redacted] can print out and bring along a copy of her comment if she ever wants to get out of jury duty!

[Ed note: comment edited.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, the only problem with your scenario is that they&#8217;ll be there to arrest YOU, because of Caller ID.</p>
<p>Patty, thanks for the support.</p>
<p>You have to understand that the [redacted] will take any opportunity to attack me, even when she is removing all doubt (you know the old saw, &#8220;Better to remain silent and though a fool than to speak up and remove all doubt&#8221;).  It doesn&#8217;t matter whether I&#8217;ve satisfied any of her &#8220;standards,&#8221; because she has none.  To the extent that she espouses any, they&#8217;re all of convenience, like any power-hungry political hack, to be discarded if no longer useful.  Remember a few weeks ago, when Hitlary became the champion of gun owners and the faithful?  Same principle at work.</p>
<p>Witness the contradiction: according to the [redacted], my &#8220;ego does not allow [me] to admit when [I am wrong about anything.&#8221;  What does she quote to support this assertion?  A quotation where I admit my error!?!?!</p>
<p>Witness her silence in the face of &#8220;Peter G.&#8217;s&#8221; name-calling.  She has said in the past that she opposes it, yet engages in it herself and remains silent when others do it, so long as it is directed at the right target.</p>
<p>Witness her failure to recognize the difference between major and minor facts.  She quibbles because I misidentified the shopping center (one in apparently close proximately to the site of the actual shooting) and the distance to the school (1/2 as opposed to a full mile).  Now, I suppose that if I had identified the shopping center as Potomac Mills or Tysons Corner (what is that, 10 or 15 miles difference?), the [redacted] might have a point.  The important facts are that: (1) there was a shooting; (2) it was in close proximity &#8212; a few minutes&#8217; driving distance &#8212; to an unwarned school; and (3) the suspect remained at large.</p>
<p>&#8216;Course, the bright side is, the [redacted] can print out and bring along a copy of her comment if she ever wants to get out of jury duty!</p>
<p>[Ed note: comment edited.]</p>
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		<title>By: mnd</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64896</link>
		<dc:creator>mnd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 17:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64896</guid>
		<description>"Lock-down" is the most idiotic response to an external threat.

Only force can defend against force, which is why folks call the police in these situations.  If schools aren't willing to train and certify teachers and administrators to use and deploy force in defense of their charges then your children will remain "soft targets" regardless of lock-down policy and any notification of nearby threat.

Schools in Israel had this lesson figured out 20+ years ago.

Don't fall for "security theater."  Demand real security.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Lock-down&#8221; is the most idiotic response to an external threat.</p>
<p>Only force can defend against force, which is why folks call the police in these situations.  If schools aren&#8217;t willing to train and certify teachers and administrators to use and deploy force in defense of their charges then your children will remain &#8220;soft targets&#8221; regardless of lock-down policy and any notification of nearby threat.</p>
<p>Schools in Israel had this lesson figured out 20+ years ago.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t fall for &#8220;security theater.&#8221;  Demand real security.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg L</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64895</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64895</guid>
		<description>Sure fire way to get a quick response:

"OK officer, I'll get my shotgun and put an end to this right now.  Thanks for giving me the go-ahead on this."

Then hang up.  They'll be there in thirty seconds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure fire way to get a quick response:</p>
<p>&#8220;OK officer, I&#8217;ll get my shotgun and put an end to this right now.  Thanks for giving me the go-ahead on this.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then hang up.  They&#8217;ll be there in thirty seconds.</p>
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		<title>By: Patty</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64892</link>
		<dc:creator>Patty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64892</guid>
		<description>AW,

Don't be too quick to critize Mr. Young on this.  I've experienced two occasions when the dispatcher gave me incorrect information.  In one instance when I called in a domestic fight (out in the front lawn) I was concerned when no police came.  I called back the dispatcher (45 minutes later) because the combatants were still at it.  The dispatcher told me that the police were busy.  I said the persons involved were still outside fighting.  Then I asked her if she expected me to break it up.  She then said, "If you don't mind."

Next day I called the Captain to complain about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AW,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be too quick to critize Mr. Young on this.  I&#8217;ve experienced two occasions when the dispatcher gave me incorrect information.  In one instance when I called in a domestic fight (out in the front lawn) I was concerned when no police came.  I called back the dispatcher (45 minutes later) because the combatants were still at it.  The dispatcher told me that the police were busy.  I said the persons involved were still outside fighting.  Then I asked her if she expected me to break it up.  She then said, &#8220;If you don&#8217;t mind.&#8221;</p>
<p>Next day I called the Captain to complain about it.</p>
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		<title>By: James Young</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64871</link>
		<dc:creator>James Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 13:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64871</guid>
		<description>Very slick, "Peter G.": you declare someone seeking to hold a public official responsible for his/her misdeed (lying to a citizen seeking the information upon which to act) as a "loser" for trying to "place blame."  And I'm the one frequently attacked here for "name-calling"?!?!?!

I guess, therefore, by your standard, that the entire criminal justice system --- police; prosecutors; judges; juries --- are "losers."  After all, all that they do is "place blame" for wrong-doing.

One might more logically suspect that "losers" seize on minor errors to evade the issue when they don't want to be perceived as defending a logically untenable position.

And the untenable position which you seek desperately to evade is the fact that the MAPS administration did "take steps to be sure they were notified" ON THIS OCCASION.  The school did attempt to "take responsibility for the safety of the people" at the school (children on a playground) when someone noticed an unusual number of helicopters in the area.  My point (and I do have one) is that members of the public --- including private-school administrators and teachers --- are entitled to truthful information from the government upon which to base their decisionmaking.  That's one reason why we receive mailed notices about the County's gypsy-moth spraying program with our water bills well in advance of that activity.  Those "steps" were frustrated when the individual inquiring was lied to by a government employee.  It shouldn't have taken the EXTRA step of flagging down a police car.  That officer is to be commended for giving truthful information when asked.  An analogous situation --- individuals fleeing from police --- arose in my neighborhood a few weeks ago, and while I wouldn't have expected some general alarm to individual residences, I certainly expected and received truthful information from one of the officers involved.  Before I did so, I directed my sons to stay in an upstairs room in the house while I sought the information.

The alternative is imposing a lock-down whenever anything unusual is observed, and frequently disrupting the activities of the school needlessly.

"Me" is of course correct.  I maintain that it's important to make a distinction between the failure to notify --- a procedural deficiency which can and should be corrected in the future --- and the misrepresentation made upon the MAPS teacher's inquiry, for the reasons and with the consequences stated above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very slick, &#8220;Peter G.&#8221;: you declare someone seeking to hold a public official responsible for his/her misdeed (lying to a citizen seeking the information upon which to act) as a &#8220;loser&#8221; for trying to &#8220;place blame.&#8221;  And I&#8217;m the one frequently attacked here for &#8220;name-calling&#8221;?!?!?!</p>
<p>I guess, therefore, by your standard, that the entire criminal justice system &#8212; police; prosecutors; judges; juries &#8212; are &#8220;losers.&#8221;  After all, all that they do is &#8220;place blame&#8221; for wrong-doing.</p>
<p>One might more logically suspect that &#8220;losers&#8221; seize on minor errors to evade the issue when they don&#8217;t want to be perceived as defending a logically untenable position.</p>
<p>And the untenable position which you seek desperately to evade is the fact that the MAPS administration did &#8220;take steps to be sure they were notified&#8221; ON THIS OCCASION.  The school did attempt to &#8220;take responsibility for the safety of the people&#8221; at the school (children on a playground) when someone noticed an unusual number of helicopters in the area.  My point (and I do have one) is that members of the public &#8212; including private-school administrators and teachers &#8212; are entitled to truthful information from the government upon which to base their decisionmaking.  That&#8217;s one reason why we receive mailed notices about the County&#8217;s gypsy-moth spraying program with our water bills well in advance of that activity.  Those &#8220;steps&#8221; were frustrated when the individual inquiring was lied to by a government employee.  It shouldn&#8217;t have taken the EXTRA step of flagging down a police car.  That officer is to be commended for giving truthful information when asked.  An analogous situation &#8212; individuals fleeing from police &#8212; arose in my neighborhood a few weeks ago, and while I wouldn&#8217;t have expected some general alarm to individual residences, I certainly expected and received truthful information from one of the officers involved.  Before I did so, I directed my sons to stay in an upstairs room in the house while I sought the information.</p>
<p>The alternative is imposing a lock-down whenever anything unusual is observed, and frequently disrupting the activities of the school needlessly.</p>
<p>&#8220;Me&#8221; is of course correct.  I maintain that it&#8217;s important to make a distinction between the failure to notify &#8212; a procedural deficiency which can and should be corrected in the future &#8212; and the misrepresentation made upon the MAPS teacher&#8217;s inquiry, for the reasons and with the consequences stated above.</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64863</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 12:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64863</guid>
		<description>Peter, as I'm sure that you've noticed, Jimmy is one of those people whose ego does not allow him to admit when he is wrong about anything...it's always someone else's fault ("wow, I had two minor facts wrong — the location of the shooting and the distance from the school— acting in reliance upon second-hand information, related to me by the outraged husband of one of the teachers").  You may also have noticed that, because he got the major information wrong, he considers the facts to have been minor (location and distance from the school minor??).  I'm sure that you've run into this type of person before.  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, as I&#8217;m sure that you&#8217;ve noticed, Jimmy is one of those people whose ego does not allow him to admit when he is wrong about anything&#8230;it&#8217;s always someone else&#8217;s fault (&#8221;wow, I had two minor facts wrong — the location of the shooting and the distance from the school— acting in reliance upon second-hand information, related to me by the outraged husband of one of the teachers&#8221;).  You may also have noticed that, because he got the major information wrong, he considers the facts to have been minor (location and distance from the school minor??).  I&#8217;m sure that you&#8217;ve run into this type of person before.  <img src='http://www.bvbl.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Peter G.</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64852</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 10:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64852</guid>
		<description>James,
Did you read the post from "me"?  I will believe it or not, as I see fit and I don't believe you.  Like I said before, ALL schools should be notified but if my kid was at a school that was not notified I would find out why and make the administration take steps to be sure they were notified next time.  I would hope the school would take responsibility for the saftey of the people in the building.  Losers place blame, winners do something about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,<br />
Did you read the post from &#8220;me&#8221;?  I will believe it or not, as I see fit and I don&#8217;t believe you.  Like I said before, ALL schools should be notified but if my kid was at a school that was not notified I would find out why and make the administration take steps to be sure they were notified next time.  I would hope the school would take responsibility for the saftey of the people in the building.  Losers place blame, winners do something about it.</p>
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		<title>By: James Young</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64838</link>
		<dc:creator>James Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 03:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64838</guid>
		<description>"Peter G.," if you were a little more interested in common sense than in scoring points (wow, I had two minor facts wrong --- the location of the shooting and the distance from the school--- acting in reliance upon second-hand information, related to me by the outraged husband of one of the teachers) , you might be taken a little more seriously.  I made mistakes.  Wow!  Then again, I have a full-time job, don't live in Manassas, and have to rely upon information provided by others.  I'm not a journalist, and don't pretend to be. 

Schools (public or private) don't pay anyone to monitor police scanners.  Only newspapers, and radio and television stations do so.  That you suggest that schools do so is simply silly.

The important thing here is that a member in the public in a position to take a few security measures to protect children in a potentially dangerous situation was lied to by a government employee.  You say that my rather minor errors "lead [you] to not believe [my] information about what was told to the teacher at the school."

Believe it or not, as you see fit.  Most people are sensible enough to know about the workings of government to have little doubt that it has the ring of veracity, and that I have known the lady who spoke to the officer and her husband for the better part of twenty years give me little doubt about its veracity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Peter G.,&#8221; if you were a little more interested in common sense than in scoring points (wow, I had two minor facts wrong &#8212; the location of the shooting and the distance from the school&#8212; acting in reliance upon second-hand information, related to me by the outraged husband of one of the teachers) , you might be taken a little more seriously.  I made mistakes.  Wow!  Then again, I have a full-time job, don&#8217;t live in Manassas, and have to rely upon information provided by others.  I&#8217;m not a journalist, and don&#8217;t pretend to be. </p>
<p>Schools (public or private) don&#8217;t pay anyone to monitor police scanners.  Only newspapers, and radio and television stations do so.  That you suggest that schools do so is simply silly.</p>
<p>The important thing here is that a member in the public in a position to take a few security measures to protect children in a potentially dangerous situation was lied to by a government employee.  You say that my rather minor errors &#8220;lead [you] to not believe [my] information about what was told to the teacher at the school.&#8221;</p>
<p>Believe it or not, as you see fit.  Most people are sensible enough to know about the workings of government to have little doubt that it has the ring of veracity, and that I have known the lady who spoke to the officer and her husband for the better part of twenty years give me little doubt about its veracity.</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64836</link>
		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 03:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That afternoon there was a lot of activity in the sky over Manassas.  There was a helicopter hovering for a long period of time over 28 near the area of the flooding.  There was other air traffic related to the shooting as well as general small plane activity.  It is the time that gypsy moth spraying is taking place and they to notify communications of the flight schedule due to the emergency calls because of the low flying.  Geekies a week ago there was the crazy yellow spray plane freaking everyone out going down the road as he was skimming the trees and rolling everywhere in the skies.

That being said I can’t understand why the dispatcher didn’t put 2 and 2 together and give out the right information.  There has got to be a way to notify private and public schools in an event of an emergency in the area.  It is completely unacceptable that a private school can not receive updates just as the public school does.  All of our children deserve the same protection!!

Time for inquiries to be made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That afternoon there was a lot of activity in the sky over Manassas.  There was a helicopter hovering for a long period of time over 28 near the area of the flooding.  There was other air traffic related to the shooting as well as general small plane activity.  It is the time that gypsy moth spraying is taking place and they to notify communications of the flight schedule due to the emergency calls because of the low flying.  Geekies a week ago there was the crazy yellow spray plane freaking everyone out going down the road as he was skimming the trees and rolling everywhere in the skies.</p>
<p>That being said I can’t understand why the dispatcher didn’t put 2 and 2 together and give out the right information.  There has got to be a way to notify private and public schools in an event of an emergency in the area.  It is completely unacceptable that a private school can not receive updates just as the public school does.  All of our children deserve the same protection!!</p>
<p>Time for inquiries to be made.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64833</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 02:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah stonewall high was not on lockdown</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah stonewall high was not on lockdown</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64823</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 01:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64823</guid>
		<description>luigirusty said on 14 May 2008 at 5:47 pm: 
Yeah, cause Americans never shoot at each other. Ignorance at it’s finest.

List the last instance where a gringo shot another gringo outside of a supermarket in the area.   PUT UP OR SHUT UP!  Seven out of the last nine murders in this area were comitted by illegal aliens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>luigirusty said on 14 May 2008 at 5:47 pm:<br />
Yeah, cause Americans never shoot at each other. Ignorance at it’s finest.</p>
<p>List the last instance where a gringo shot another gringo outside of a supermarket in the area.   PUT UP OR SHUT UP!  Seven out of the last nine murders in this area were comitted by illegal aliens.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter G.</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64817</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 01:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The administrators of the school are the responsible party.  And James, your previous mis-information leads me to not believe your information about what was told to the teacher at the school.  You seem to stretch the truth to make it more dramatic but all you do is make yourself unreliable.  In the end it is the responsibility of the administrators of the school to keep the children safe, scanners have been around for a long time.  The school needs to take the initiative and not blame others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The administrators of the school are the responsible party.  And James, your previous mis-information leads me to not believe your information about what was told to the teacher at the school.  You seem to stretch the truth to make it more dramatic but all you do is make yourself unreliable.  In the end it is the responsibility of the administrators of the school to keep the children safe, scanners have been around for a long time.  The school needs to take the initiative and not blame others.</p>
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		<title>By: Waaaaaah.</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64809</link>
		<dc:creator>Waaaaaah.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 00:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64809</guid>
		<description>Won't SOMEONE think of the CHILDREN????????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Won&#8217;t SOMEONE think of the CHILDREN????????</p>
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		<title>By: CityResident</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64806</link>
		<dc:creator>CityResident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 22:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/13/shooting-at-global-foods/#comment-64806</guid>
		<description>An update on the shooting - the victim is in stable condition and the police are still searching for the suspect and reviewing surveillance videos of the parking lot which show the suspect running from the scene. The article is at http://www.wmal.com/Article.asp?id=700456</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An update on the shooting - the victim is in stable condition and the police are still searching for the suspect and reviewing surveillance videos of the parking lot which show the suspect running from the scene. The article is at <a href="http://www.wmal.com/Article.asp?id=700456" rel="nofollow">http://www.wmal.com/Article.asp?id=700456</a></p>
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