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	<title>Comments on: So How Has Amnesty Worked Out?</title>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65511</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 01:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65511</guid>
		<description>;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://www.bvbl.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: MP Resident</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65505</link>
		<dc:creator>MP Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 01:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65505</guid>
		<description>And..sometimes.."The Truth" hurts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And..sometimes..&#8221;The Truth&#8221; hurts!</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65496</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 00:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65496</guid>
		<description>Take it all to heart, my boy...look upon it as "The Truth."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take it all to heart, my boy&#8230;look upon it as &#8220;The Truth.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: The Truth</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65422</link>
		<dc:creator>The Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 17:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65422</guid>
		<description>I litany of insults were poured on me...how convenient for you to ignore that. Why did you ignore it?

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What a waste of public education dollars.

Enablers like “The Truth” 

TT (I have difficulty calling you by your pseudonym…it doesn’t seem to fit!)

Bottom of your class, were you?

He IS a teen bopper!!

If you are “actively campaigning for democrats now”, I could find it in my heart to pity the Democrats.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I litany of insults were poured on me&#8230;how convenient for you to ignore that. Why did you ignore it?</p>
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<p>What a waste of public education dollars.</p>
<p>Enablers like “The Truth” </p>
<p>TT (I have difficulty calling you by your pseudonym…it doesn’t seem to fit!)</p>
<p>Bottom of your class, were you?</p>
<p>He IS a teen bopper!!</p>
<p>If you are “actively campaigning for democrats now”, I could find it in my heart to pity the Democrats.
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		<title>By: The Truth</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65419</link>
		<dc:creator>The Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 16:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65419</guid>
		<description>Hey, you were the ones who started calling me TT instead of my real moniker, The Truth. Let's be honest here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, you were the ones who started calling me TT instead of my real moniker, The Truth. Let&#8217;s be honest here.</p>
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		<title>By: Not4Nothing</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65370</link>
		<dc:creator>Not4Nothing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 10:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65370</guid>
		<description>"You have to support this aspect of immigration because it’s the RULE OF LAW! "

"They will write the new law giving amnesty, and since it’s the LAW, you’ll have to support it.

In the first quote, please note that TT is suggesting that the LAW cannot be changed. This is ridiculous. THE LAW gets changed all the time as (s)he seems to recognize in the second quote. Have you noticed that TT's response to perfectly valid and true statements is to call people names?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You have to support this aspect of immigration because it’s the RULE OF LAW! &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;They will write the new law giving amnesty, and since it’s the LAW, you’ll have to support it.</p>
<p>In the first quote, please note that TT is suggesting that the LAW cannot be changed. This is ridiculous. THE LAW gets changed all the time as (s)he seems to recognize in the second quote. Have you noticed that TT&#8217;s response to perfectly valid and true statements is to call people names?</p>
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		<title>By: MP Resident</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65364</link>
		<dc:creator>MP Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 05:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65364</guid>
		<description>What a waste of public education dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a waste of public education dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65360</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 05:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65360</guid>
		<description>Sorry...that's "TEENY bopper!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry&#8230;that&#8217;s &#8220;TEENY bopper!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65358</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 05:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65358</guid>
		<description>He IS a teen bopper!!</description>
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		<title>By: The Truth</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65352</link>
		<dc:creator>The Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 04:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65352</guid>
		<description>Not4Thinking said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
As far as I know, the US is the only country in the world that counts grown children, parents, and siblings for family reunification, albeit behind spouse and minor children. There is no earthly reason why these last three groups should be allowed in solely because they are kin to somebody in the US.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I thought this was all about the RULE OF LAW! Right? You have to support this aspect of immigration because it's the RULE OF LAW! You have to support this dude...you have to...unless you're a hypocrite. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;
If you are “actively campaigning for democrats now”, I could find it in my heart to pity the Democrats.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don't think they're gonna need your pity dude. They're gonna need your obedience when they win the house of reps and the white house. They will write the new law giving amnesty, and since it's the LAW, you'll have to support it. The Repukes are committing political suicide. They started something here when they decided to attack immigrants...they thought they could control it but now it's spinning out of control. What's that old saying....'don't play with fire or might get burned'. It's no surprise thought, since they did the same political suicide thing in iraq. 

Usually, in national elections, the Repukes have more money that the democrats. Not this time around dudes and dudettes. Fund raising by Repukes is way down now. Haha! It's because people like me who used to donate, are now donating to the dems. We're marching, we're campaigning, we're gathering 65,000 strong at Obama's last rally. Juan McCain can try to get us back but only the useful idiots will listen to him. Besides, who wants 100 years of war?!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not4Thinking said:</p>
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As far as I know, the US is the only country in the world that counts grown children, parents, and siblings for family reunification, albeit behind spouse and minor children. There is no earthly reason why these last three groups should be allowed in solely because they are kin to somebody in the US.
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<p>I thought this was all about the RULE OF LAW! Right? You have to support this aspect of immigration because it&#8217;s the RULE OF LAW! You have to support this dude&#8230;you have to&#8230;unless you&#8217;re a hypocrite. </p>
<blockquote><p>
If you are “actively campaigning for democrats now”, I could find it in my heart to pity the Democrats.
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<p>I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re gonna need your pity dude. They&#8217;re gonna need your obedience when they win the house of reps and the white house. They will write the new law giving amnesty, and since it&#8217;s the LAW, you&#8217;ll have to support it. The Repukes are committing political suicide. They started something here when they decided to attack immigrants&#8230;they thought they could control it but now it&#8217;s spinning out of control. What&#8217;s that old saying&#8230;.&#8217;don&#8217;t play with fire or might get burned&#8217;. It&#8217;s no surprise thought, since they did the same political suicide thing in iraq. </p>
<p>Usually, in national elections, the Repukes have more money that the democrats. Not this time around dudes and dudettes. Fund raising by Repukes is way down now. Haha! It&#8217;s because people like me who used to donate, are now donating to the dems. We&#8217;re marching, we&#8217;re campaigning, we&#8217;re gathering 65,000 strong at Obama&#8217;s last rally. Juan McCain can try to get us back but only the useful idiots will listen to him. Besides, who wants 100 years of war?!?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave in PWC</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65319</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave in PWC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 22:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65319</guid>
		<description>The Truth,

Why do you keep talking about Hispanics?  Illegals are Illegals no matter what their race, color, ethnic background.  Most of the people here just want the illegal immigrants to go home.  The rule of law is helping that, not as fast as I would like, but it's a start.  Round em up, move em out!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Truth,</p>
<p>Why do you keep talking about Hispanics?  Illegals are Illegals no matter what their race, color, ethnic background.  Most of the people here just want the illegal immigrants to go home.  The rule of law is helping that, not as fast as I would like, but it&#8217;s a start.  Round em up, move em out!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Not4Nothing</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65306</link>
		<dc:creator>Not4Nothing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 20:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65306</guid>
		<description>"a Rule Of Law you rail against when it helps immigrants to reunite with their families."

First of all, IMO any person that we allow into the US as an LPR on citizenship track should have the right to bring immediate family members in, meaning spouse and minor children. They are, after all, responsible for these people. Of course, any plan that legalizes illegal aliens should take these numbers and costs into account - and be honest with the American people as to what this all means. As far as I know, the US is the only country in the world that counts grown children, parents, and siblings for family reunification, albeit behind spouse and minor children. There is no earthly reason why these last three groups should be allowed in solely because they are kin to somebody in the US. One of the groups that is most adroit at exploiting this law to bring in aged parents, whom they promise to support and then dump on the US welfare system, is, not Mexicans, but that model immigrant, the Chinese. 

As for  "all of a sudden, it has nothing to do with the rule of law…and everything to do with keeping hispanic family members out", about 40% of illegal aliens are people who come to the US legally on tourist, student, work, etc visas and overstay. Most of these aren't Hispanic. There is a growing number of Indians in this category. In fact, a few in this category are Irish. I am against rewarding people who break the law whatever their ethnicity.

TT, my post was largely a response to your claim that the illegal aliens were more or less oblivious to amnesty. They are not. If you are "actively campaigning for democrats now", I could find it in my heart to pity the Democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;a Rule Of Law you rail against when it helps immigrants to reunite with their families.&#8221;</p>
<p>First of all, IMO any person that we allow into the US as an LPR on citizenship track should have the right to bring immediate family members in, meaning spouse and minor children. They are, after all, responsible for these people. Of course, any plan that legalizes illegal aliens should take these numbers and costs into account - and be honest with the American people as to what this all means. As far as I know, the US is the only country in the world that counts grown children, parents, and siblings for family reunification, albeit behind spouse and minor children. There is no earthly reason why these last three groups should be allowed in solely because they are kin to somebody in the US. One of the groups that is most adroit at exploiting this law to bring in aged parents, whom they promise to support and then dump on the US welfare system, is, not Mexicans, but that model immigrant, the Chinese. </p>
<p>As for  &#8220;all of a sudden, it has nothing to do with the rule of law…and everything to do with keeping hispanic family members out&#8221;, about 40% of illegal aliens are people who come to the US legally on tourist, student, work, etc visas and overstay. Most of these aren&#8217;t Hispanic. There is a growing number of Indians in this category. In fact, a few in this category are Irish. I am against rewarding people who break the law whatever their ethnicity.</p>
<p>TT, my post was largely a response to your claim that the illegal aliens were more or less oblivious to amnesty. They are not. If you are &#8220;actively campaigning for democrats now&#8221;, I could find it in my heart to pity the Democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65304</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 19:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65304</guid>
		<description>"Undocumented workers can’t vote. They have no control over what social services are offered. It’s kind of dumb to blame people who are powerless."

THAT, particularly in response to that portion of my comment that you quoted, is your most asinine statement in your entire comment TT.  Either you’re saying that, because they are powerless, they should be allowed to break the law and steal from our own poor to their hearts content, or…actually, when I think about it, there is no “or.”  Have you ever had anything stolen from you, TT… a “breaking and entering,” perhaps?  Was the perpetrator perhaps a poor, powerless person who really needed the money?  Did you call the police to have them arrested?  Shame on you since “it’s kind of dumb to blame people who are powerless.”  What did you call that…scapegoating?  Bottom of your class, were you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Undocumented workers can’t vote. They have no control over what social services are offered. It’s kind of dumb to blame people who are powerless.&#8221;</p>
<p>THAT, particularly in response to that portion of my comment that you quoted, is your most asinine statement in your entire comment TT.  Either you’re saying that, because they are powerless, they should be allowed to break the law and steal from our own poor to their hearts content, or…actually, when I think about it, there is no “or.”  Have you ever had anything stolen from you, TT… a “breaking and entering,” perhaps?  Was the perpetrator perhaps a poor, powerless person who really needed the money?  Did you call the police to have them arrested?  Shame on you since “it’s kind of dumb to blame people who are powerless.”  What did you call that…scapegoating?  Bottom of your class, were you?</p>
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		<title>By: me-n-u</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65302</link>
		<dc:creator>me-n-u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 19:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65302</guid>
		<description>Resort Workers Arrested in Raid Await Hearings
38 of 53 Ex-Lansdowne Employees Facing Immigration Charges Are Out of Custody Until They Face a Judge

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/16/AR2008051604412.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Resort Workers Arrested in Raid Await Hearings<br />
38 of 53 Ex-Lansdowne Employees Facing Immigration Charges Are Out of Custody Until They Face a Judge</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/16/AR2008051604412.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/16/AR2008051604412.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: AWCheney</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65300</link>
		<dc:creator>AWCheney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 19:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65300</guid>
		<description>The Truth said on 19 May 2008 at 7:16 am:
AWCheney said:
      You want reform…there’s only one way…CLOSE THE BORDERS! 

"It’s not gonna happen dude. You’re spitting in the wind. You should just forget about it. Some path to citizenship will take place." 

First of all TT, it's not dude...it's dudette!  Secondly, I have never spit in the wind...there's a long line of sailors on my father's side of the family and obviously more common sense than in your ancestry.  And, thirdly, there are more ways to "close" the border than doing it physically with a fence.

I happen to agree with some folks who have mentioned that we should adopt Mexican policy with regard to illegal immigration.  Politically, it would be the smart thing to do...and it would shut the Mexican government up or lead to a PR disaster on their part.  You should read that policy "DUDE" (what are we, teeny boppers...or are you?)...it's harsh, and effective.  If these illegal aliens knew that their actions could have very harsh consequences, it would be far more effective than ANY fence!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Truth said on 19 May 2008 at 7:16 am:<br />
AWCheney said:<br />
      You want reform…there’s only one way…CLOSE THE BORDERS! </p>
<p>&#8220;It’s not gonna happen dude. You’re spitting in the wind. You should just forget about it. Some path to citizenship will take place.&#8221; </p>
<p>First of all TT, it&#8217;s not dude&#8230;it&#8217;s dudette!  Secondly, I have never spit in the wind&#8230;there&#8217;s a long line of sailors on my father&#8217;s side of the family and obviously more common sense than in your ancestry.  And, thirdly, there are more ways to &#8220;close&#8221; the border than doing it physically with a fence.</p>
<p>I happen to agree with some folks who have mentioned that we should adopt Mexican policy with regard to illegal immigration.  Politically, it would be the smart thing to do&#8230;and it would shut the Mexican government up or lead to a PR disaster on their part.  You should read that policy &#8220;DUDE&#8221; (what are we, teeny boppers&#8230;or are you?)&#8230;it&#8217;s harsh, and effective.  If these illegal aliens knew that their actions could have very harsh consequences, it would be far more effective than ANY fence!</p>
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		<title>By: AsIseeit</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65285</link>
		<dc:creator>AsIseeit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 15:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65285</guid>
		<description>To Truth,
You are way off base and I think I know why. You refer to "hogwash"?

Wonder if your the same Supervisor that refered to Woodbridge people being "hogwash"?

Our areas are declining and they have to be picked up now before it's to late.

People want to move here,but we have plenty of citizens who are hard workers that would come and make Prince William their home.

No need to allow them to sneak across the border.They are Illegal Aliens and they are smart in working the system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Truth,<br />
You are way off base and I think I know why. You refer to &#8220;hogwash&#8221;?</p>
<p>Wonder if your the same Supervisor that refered to Woodbridge people being &#8220;hogwash&#8221;?</p>
<p>Our areas are declining and they have to be picked up now before it&#8217;s to late.</p>
<p>People want to move here,but we have plenty of citizens who are hard workers that would come and make Prince William their home.</p>
<p>No need to allow them to sneak across the border.They are Illegal Aliens and they are smart in working the system.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65279</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 14:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65279</guid>
		<description>Keep the faith, all. The fence is working, albeit slowly. The louder they whine, the more effective it is. Build the fence, kick the illegals out, stay on top of Congress. The world is changing rapidly, folks. We need to start looking out for ourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep the faith, all. The fence is working, albeit slowly. The louder they whine, the more effective it is. Build the fence, kick the illegals out, stay on top of Congress. The world is changing rapidly, folks. We need to start looking out for ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: MP Resident</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65278</link>
		<dc:creator>MP Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 14:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65278</guid>
		<description>"Undocumented workers can’t vote."

Yes they can. They can't vote legally, but they can vote, quite easily too...with motor voter you merely sign a statement attesting to the fact that you are a US Citizen and away you go.

Oh, but wait, there is an ID requirement which may present a hurdle:

"IDENTIFICATION REQUIREMENT 
   
 
For Registration. Under a new federal law, if this form is submitted by mail, and you have never registered to vote in Virginia before, you must send with this application either (a) a copy of your current and valid photo identification, or (b) a copy of a current utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck or other government document that shows your name and  address. Otherwise, you may be required to show election officials either (a) or (b) above the first time you vote in a federal election."
  

Hmm...a utility bill? Perhaps not much of a hurdle at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Undocumented workers can’t vote.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes they can. They can&#8217;t vote legally, but they can vote, quite easily too&#8230;with motor voter you merely sign a statement attesting to the fact that you are a US Citizen and away you go.</p>
<p>Oh, but wait, there is an ID requirement which may present a hurdle:</p>
<p>&#8220;IDENTIFICATION REQUIREMENT </p>
<p>For Registration. Under a new federal law, if this form is submitted by mail, and you have never registered to vote in Virginia before, you must send with this application either (a) a copy of your current and valid photo identification, or (b) a copy of a current utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck or other government document that shows your name and  address. Otherwise, you may be required to show election officials either (a) or (b) above the first time you vote in a federal election.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmm&#8230;a utility bill? Perhaps not much of a hurdle at all.</p>
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		<title>By: CitizenofManassas</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65266</link>
		<dc:creator>CitizenofManassas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 11:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65266</guid>
		<description>The truth,

If illegals wanted to come here to work, they should play by the rules. If they are unwilling to play by the most basic of rules given to immigrants, what makes you think they are playing by any rules once here?

I suppose that is why MS-13 has such high numbers of illegals, they are just here to do work.  Yup.  Talk about having your head in the ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truth,</p>
<p>If illegals wanted to come here to work, they should play by the rules. If they are unwilling to play by the most basic of rules given to immigrants, what makes you think they are playing by any rules once here?</p>
<p>I suppose that is why MS-13 has such high numbers of illegals, they are just here to do work.  Yup.  Talk about having your head in the ground.</p>
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		<title>By: The Truth</title>
		<link>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65264</link>
		<dc:creator>The Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 11:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2008/05/18/so-how-has-amnesty-worked-out/#comment-65264</guid>
		<description>AWCheney said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
You want reform…there’s only one way…CLOSE THE BORDERS!
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It's not gonna happen dude. You're spitting in the wind. You should just forget about it. Some path to citizenship will take place. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;
How many Americans have been unable to get jobs, regardless of their experience and abilities, simply because they don’t speak Spanish…because so many of their potential co-workers are uneducated illegal aliens who refuse to learn English?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Ina free market system, job requirements change over time. Learning to speak spanish in order to remain competitive is only common sense.

&lt;blockquote&gt;
How many Americans have been forced to take jobs at ridiculously low wages without benefits (if they can even get them) because there’s 100 illegal aliens waiting in line to take them happily since the taxpayers are providing all those wonderful medical and other social welfare benefits enabling them to thrive on those meager wages
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Undocumented workers can't vote. They have no control over what social services are offered. It's kind of dumb to blame people who are powerless. What you're doing is called scapegoating...and it's exactly what bigot repubs like Greg want you to do.

Not3Nothing said:
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Once they are legalized, they can start bringing in, first, their immediate family and later their extended family via family reunification, which BTW is the single largest source of legal immigration. Even if it could be proven beyond a doubt that we needed every single illegal alien in the US today - it can’t but IF it could -
do we really need all of their family members and then THEIR familiy members?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Ahh...so your true bigot colors are on display for all to see. 'Once they are legalized' you said. Meaning, once they can claim to be acting within the law. I thought you guys here believed in the RULE OF LAW. Ahhh...I guess when that law is excercised by immigrants, all of a sudden, it has nothing to do with the rule of law...and everything to do with keeping hispanic family members out. HA! I will never vote republican again. And I'm actively campaigning for democrats now. I think there are many many more like me. This isn't the 1950s anymore guys. We're not going to be pushed around like you pushed around black people. 

If you simply don't want large numbers of hispanics here, can you at least be man enough to admit that's your goal instead of cowardly hiding behind this idea that you only care about Rule Of Law...a Rule Of Law you rail against when it helps immigrants to reunite with their families.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AWCheney said:</p>
<blockquote><p>
You want reform…there’s only one way…CLOSE THE BORDERS!
</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s not gonna happen dude. You&#8217;re spitting in the wind. You should just forget about it. Some path to citizenship will take place. </p>
<blockquote><p>
How many Americans have been unable to get jobs, regardless of their experience and abilities, simply because they don’t speak Spanish…because so many of their potential co-workers are uneducated illegal aliens who refuse to learn English?
</p></blockquote>
<p>Ina free market system, job requirements change over time. Learning to speak spanish in order to remain competitive is only common sense.</p>
<blockquote><p>
How many Americans have been forced to take jobs at ridiculously low wages without benefits (if they can even get them) because there’s 100 illegal aliens waiting in line to take them happily since the taxpayers are providing all those wonderful medical and other social welfare benefits enabling them to thrive on those meager wages
</p></blockquote>
<p>Undocumented workers can&#8217;t vote. They have no control over what social services are offered. It&#8217;s kind of dumb to blame people who are powerless. What you&#8217;re doing is called scapegoating&#8230;and it&#8217;s exactly what bigot repubs like Greg want you to do.</p>
<p>Not3Nothing said:</p>
<blockquote><p>
Once they are legalized, they can start bringing in, first, their immediate family and later their extended family via family reunification, which BTW is the single largest source of legal immigration. Even if it could be proven beyond a doubt that we needed every single illegal alien in the US today - it can’t but IF it could -<br />
do we really need all of their family members and then THEIR familiy members?
</p></blockquote>
<p>Ahh&#8230;so your true bigot colors are on display for all to see. &#8216;Once they are legalized&#8217; you said. Meaning, once they can claim to be acting within the law. I thought you guys here believed in the RULE OF LAW. Ahhh&#8230;I guess when that law is excercised by immigrants, all of a sudden, it has nothing to do with the rule of law&#8230;and everything to do with keeping hispanic family members out. HA! I will never vote republican again. And I&#8217;m actively campaigning for democrats now. I think there are many many more like me. This isn&#8217;t the 1950s anymore guys. We&#8217;re not going to be pushed around like you pushed around black people. </p>
<p>If you simply don&#8217;t want large numbers of hispanics here, can you at least be man enough to admit that&#8217;s your goal instead of cowardly hiding behind this idea that you only care about Rule Of Law&#8230;a Rule Of Law you rail against when it helps immigrants to reunite with their families.</p>
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